Why does Yea Forums keep white knighting and making excuses for Star?
Why does Yea Forums keep white knighting and making excuses for Star?
Owen Roberts
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Samuel Morris
like the BMC, in hopes that she will fuck them, and being a fictional character makes it all the more pathetic
Zachary Robinson
Sounds dumb. I liked her more when she was a cuck.
Austin Taylor
That's because you identified with being a cuck.
Jose Rodriguez
>Why does Yea Forums keep white knighting and making excuses for Globgor.
Henry Garcia
Star didn’t do anything wrong, Star is an abused child who just wants to stop racism. People need to stop shitting on her, Globgor, Moon, and the rest of Mewni are to blame. Literally everyone on Yea Forums has forgiven Star like and I have. Move on, Star is the victim and the hero. Stop hating her because she hates racist.
David Wilson
This is what I met. Star wants to stop racism, that’s cool, yeah, but that doesn’t stop her from being selfish and careless.
Jack Richardson
literally no one does
Adam Baker
Clearly you haven’t read some of the more recent SVTFOE threads.
Parker Johnson
it's just the same shitposter
Joshua Price
I dream of a day when shows like this will go in the right order, and in this example would end with Star Butterfly establishing a hereditary absolutist monarchy with a three tiered caste system. Plus the untouchables. I was never able to understand how or why would people who are clearly superior to the rest give up power, or influence, or rule, or exclusivity. Star has the divine right to rule, and that's the bottom line. The mere thought that a nigh-godlike being would refuse autocracy is stupid and silly.
You can see this system reemerge in the world today. It'll sweep away the decadent remnants of democracy and false suicidal equality.
Also the show should've ended after Toffee was gone. I haven't even watched the last few episodes, I can't muster up the interest.
Angel Hughes
I do not know what kind of fringe, potentially ancap hole you crawled out of, but you should probably go back and napalm that place, because god forbid there is more than one.
Bentley Cooper
Marco self inserters
Andrew Turner
CHADgor doesn't need excuses
Ethan Sullivan
Those systems usually fall apart because the lower class outnumbers the upper ones. Combine with better communication technology and ability to see how much they're getting shitted on, and you eventually get an uprising.
Places like Saudi and China only keep their population in check because they get enough outside capital for the world to turn a blind eye.
Leo Jackson
What makes Star so special? Ludo should rule
Christopher King
>What makes Star so special?
nothing, she's nothing but a disgusting pie folk descendant
Gabriel Rivera
Because the show keeps white knighting and making excuses for Eclipsa and her family, so anons want to balance it out.
Anthony Taylor
I dropped the show after Season 3, how bad does it get?
Nicholas Rivera
Explain India
Nicholas Bell
it becomes the eclipsa show
Jacob Martin
Any explanation I give isn't going to convey just how bad it got as well as watching it would, but since it's not worth watching:
Eclipsa is completely innocent and good and has a Jesus-like ability to forgive anyone for anything. It's reached the point that it honestly feels kind of unbelievable that she'd be the type to create dark spells to physically and psychologically torture, maim, and murder people. She's vegetarian/vegan and so is the rest of her ugly loving picture-perfect family. That skeleton guitar that she had as a brief joke for one S3 scene is now a major part of her character and she gets, like, 3 songs with it across the season. Whenever she does something that you'd think'd be morally wrong, like hijacking Rhombulus's body in an attempt to free Globgor or secretly reading Star's mind and searching her room for the same purposes, it's retroactively justified because Globgor is also completely innocent and Rhombulus was conspiring against her along with the rest of the MHC. Eventually the Mewmans all come to love her. Also Star fucking loves her, will do everything for her, and favors her over her own mother at this point. She exists to serve Eclipsa now.
Globgor is a total sweetheart with a soft voice and a Mexican (?) accent who loves to sing duets with Eclipsa. He's also portrayed as the type to never hurt a fly, despite the fact that he ALSO canonically vored Shastacan, which is never explained. We're told it's "complicated" around the middle of S4, which seems like setup for a flashback that never happened, but we know as much now as we did then (it actually really seems like the writers fucked up the timeline, since Shastacan was obviously alive when he handed Meteora off and so Globgor had to be too, but while Eclipsa knows Shastacan was eaten and that it was a supposedly complicated situation, she can't have known about Meteora's fate because she believed for most of S3 that she was dead and Star and Moon were her descendants).
Owen Allen
Also re: Globgor, despite supposedly being innocent he makes jokes about voring people, even with Eclipsa and him making a cake shaped like a Mewman and eating that and making jokes about eating Mewmans. He also gets easily accepted by the Mewmans because he is shown to care about his hideously ugly half-breed spawn. He's actually less offensive than Eclipsa because he was freed late in the season and has had only handful of appearances (while Eclipsa damn near took over S4), but he's also shit.
Meteora is super powerful and can dip down as a baby, even though at one point in the series Star was exceptional for being able to do it in her early teens. The wand is revealed to be retroactively made from her rattle. Everyone loves Meteora and talks about how cute she is when she fucking isn't, especially Glossaryck, who is training her to dip down and took her back in time to EPICALLY PWN a teenage Toffee with her magic. Also she still uses the Toffee-esque green soul-sucking magic but it's portrayed as a good thing, for whatever reason, even though she just comes off like a dangerous abomination that should be culled. Also there's an episode where she and Marco's baby sister Mariposa accidentally crawl through one of Hekapoo's open portals and grow up to teenagers in the adult Marco dimension, where they're badass survivors and see each other as sisters and it's like pure fanfiction. Meteora attempts to sacrifice Star to another vorefag magical being to steal her magic for Mariposa, and despite this showing she's a pretty vile person even with a completely different life everyone just sorta brushes it off. By the end of the episode she returns to her normal timeline with Mariposa and is forcibly regressed to an infant for the second time in her life.
I'm sure there's more dumb bullshit with these characters I haven't mentioned, but that's pretty much all the main points.
Zachary Williams
you know who else dabbles with dark magic, and uses spells to physically and psychologically torture, maim, and murder people?
Star Butterfly.
Eclipsa is just a twenty six year old Star who is still too naive, gullible, and shortsighted to be trusted with supernatural or political power, who is capable of terrible things by rationalizing that it'll all work out in the end.
and now her dark magic has tainted the source of all magic and turned it cancerous.
Are you really not grasping that Eclipsa is being presented as a bad role model to Star because despite how benevolent she she is, she's a completely irresponsible twat with barely two brain cells to rub together? Have you not picked up on how Star is doing more of her Queenly duties than Eclipsa herself and this is a point of tension building towards conflict?
Aaron Reed
you forgot about Moon there huh
Isaac Robinson
When Star has used actual dark magic she's immediately regretted it and doesn't constantly make jokes about torturing people.
There are less than 22 minutes left of the show and it's unlikely Eclipsa will be called out any more than she has. I agree that Eclipsa doesn't seem to deserve the crown/power, but it's unlikely that will be truly addressed or dealt with in any sort of satisfying way.
The thing is, I agree it's what they're probably GOING FOR, but more time is spent making Eclipsa seem likable/relatable and so it just doesn't hit. She's flawed, but not in a way that seems to negatively affect her and so I just find it irritating to watch.
Jonathan Thomas
because she's fucking sexy as hell
also post s3 mega
Ryan Myers
Not that user but India has been in permacrisis for centuries of war against the muslim kingdoms and later the anexation with the British empire. It just recently started to literally put their shit together. In some decades people will start to wonder why the brahmas are still a thing.
Elijah Edwards
Am I the only guy who thinks Star is the hottest OG character created by western animation of this century?
John Barnes
She's the only female character in a long time that has consistent mannerisms in the small talk dialogue and the cheesey action combat dialogue that feels like a genuine expression, due to the delivery. I recall them telling the VA to just wing it, or be herself. Characters that feel real, more relateable, can be more attractive, obviously. Also, you're a pedo.
Mason Butler
I just realized Mina is a Rainbow Mika/Sailor Moon combo.
Colton Rogers
Because Yea Forums is full of beta incel cucks.
Juan White
Stockholm syndrome; Cotugno's had them captive in her fake fanfiction universe for so long that they started to believe it was real, and transferred what they loved about Nefcy's Star on to this weird pseudo-Star that the coup crew cooked up.
Blake Ortiz
She's like 13, user
Elijah Hall
She's almost 16
Connor Flores
>She's almost 16
Elijah Martin
She's 16, newfriend
Grayson Thomas
You are (not) alone
Oliver Anderson
>moving goalposts
hmmmmmmmmm
Jonathan Edwards
Because they want to fuck her.
Benjamin Hernandez
If Star can practically run a kingdom and have God-like power, then she can have sex.
Dylan Gomez
How does the tapestry confirm to Star that she's supposed to destroy magic? It looks like she's firing off a magic beam in the painting, how does she know that's to destroy magic though?
Austin Cooper
Cause she reminds them of the girl they had a crush on in high school
Joseph Thompson
IIRC he(?) is Serbian and he is butthurt Marco will impregnate her
Logan Brown
Indeed
Justin Howard
Easton Morgan
Not that user, but I've only been sporadically checking on threads after Battle for Mewni. Man this show really went to shit and squandered all it's potential.
Austin Nelson
This is now a Starco thread. Post cute and perfect Starco
Gabriel Butler
based
Jack Clark
Cringed and Jebuspilled
Elijah Edwards
Hudson Ross
>mfw Jarcucks are still in denial
Nolan Jackson
>my requested edit that got delivered will keep getting posted on occasion in star vs threads
I die happy
Evan Diaz
idk, maybe because she's a likable dumb blonde that makes her brain work when its needed the most
Thomas Ramirez
Star is a nudist
Hudson Cox
I keep seeing this are every svtfoe thread, the fuck does this mean???
Cooper Gonzalez
Okay so long story short, I'm making a video and I only need every /sveg/ meme you can give me. Anything from cinnamon Star to post collages. It would mean alot!
Hudson Gray
No one cares
Robert Myers
Based and Akupilled
Nicholas Lewis
Thomas Smith
Elijah Kelly
Rehashed or Star vs. Exclusives or anything goes?
Hudson Flores
>I M A G I N E
Levi Bailey
>Press F to Pay Respects
>RIP Julio
Owen Lewis
Brody Taylor
>bizza nubbets
Thomas Watson
Jaxson Cooper
Dominic Gomez
Honestly, you need the greentext or the pastebin that went along with this one...
Jeremiah Adams
Last one before bed. You're still a dirty Jackiefag, but at least you can shitpost and have fun in the process. Good luck with the project.
Easton Adams
Anything goes, partner.
Carter Butler
Not denial, I just like jokin about characters being cucks.
I'm one of the few that aren't in the ride for the shipping
Adam Lewis
If you or another user can pull it up for me, I'll include it too.
Also, feel free to post greentext caps, as long as they're not super super long.
You too, Starcofuck. I'm gonna miss shitposting with y'all.
Liam Kelly
Simpler times
Luke Thompson
>that hand to the cheek
WE HAVE TONGUE INSERTION! And if you notice how they leave the barn, Marco is bracing her as if her legs are still quivering from the dimension rattling orgasm. 4 years worth of unbridled sexual tension and teen angst made a glopping noise as Star's womb now matched her porcelain skin tone thanks to her lithe Latino lover.
Anthony Long
Jace Rivera
Thank you to whomever has posted /sveg/ memes so far, I appreciate it. Keep em coming!
Also, I have an official start time for the Star Vs series stream. We'll be starting Friday night at 10pm cst/11pm est. We should end close to the time the finale goes live. Bring snacks.
Chase Johnson
penis
Camden Edwards
Thanks for contributing quality content, user.
Christopher Cook
>Remember when Chadiaz was even Chad'dier?
>Pepperidge Farms remembers
Also, Good Morning Thread
Xavier Rodriguez
A quality post.
Jason Mitchell
Julian Lee
I recommend copious amounts of Star Slammers to drown the sorrow of what the coup did to this once great show.
David Jones
Because the only people left who still watch Star Vs. at this point are those who have terrible taste and no standards or dignity.
Benjamin Murphy
Because I love her. I believe she can fix everything.
Matthew Martin
Kevin Martinez
Because love finds a way
Samuel Thompson
Jaxson Price
She is in love with awhite knight faggot(Marco) though.
Lucas Davis
Fucking zoomers...
Oliver Carter
>zoomers
More like twenty-something year old boomers and beaners.
Nicholas Ward
I have so many
Jack Watson
Realistic Star freaks me out
Caleb Murphy
It's a fictional character. From a children's cartoon. Are we supposed to just shit on her because some other people did? Are you afraid to tell people in real life of your interests because you're afraid they won't like them? Do you pretend that you hate stuff that other people do?
I don't know where we fucking went so wrong as to make absolute fucking cowards like you -who parrot every shitpost they see- welcome on this board. You echo every criticism you notice on this website without any knowledge of its source content so you can feel like you fit in the Yea Forums "le epic pessimist mindset" because you're certainly not going to get the satisfaction of community and friendship out of real life, you worthless fucking nobody.
I hate you. I hate everything you represent in this day and age on this board in which shitposting hiveminds have replaced actual debate. I hate that you are incapable of forming your own opinion. I hate that genuinely good shows and characters now have a bad reputation on this site because of fucking morons like you.
Luis Thompson
>twenty-something[s]
Yes, those would be zoomers.
Bentley Roberts
I jack it to all of the ballbusting pics with her.
Liam Myers
It's just eerna's style.
Carson Hill
>The Pew Research Center defines "Post-Millennials" as born from 1997 onward, choosing this date for "key political, economic and social factors", including September 11th terrorist attacks.
Dylan Ramirez
That warms my fuckin heart
Jack Roberts
Michael Wilson
>1997
People born that year would be 21-22 now. more than half of them will be in their twenties pretty soon, at any rate.
Samuel Sanders
>or secretly reading Star's mind
>uh who cares if she can manipulate me
>bloodmoon manipulates her destiny
>oh nope, i don't want my destiny to be controlled
fuck this bullshit
Jack Lopez
you forgot your glossaryck picture
Liam Barnes
Can we get Area to do her version of what happened in the barn?
Ryder Bell
>implying she isn't working on it right now
Gabriel Evans
somebody should make a video calling out the bullshit and pointing out what went wrong, could be a nice wrapup for the whole fiasco that is this and the previous season's direction.
Lucas Nguyen
>thinking that's me
Nope, sorry to inform you but that's just some random user.
You see, I wouldn't defend any character from this show for any reason.
Kayden King
>He's also portrayed as the type to never hurt a fly, despite the fact that he ALSO canonically vored Shastacan, which is never explained.
He kidnapped Glogbor's daughter, that's a pretty good reason for Globgor to brutally murder him.
Kayden Garcia
People need to stop fetishizing action. You only like action because there were a bunch of good action shows in the 90s and 2000s and now your brain conflates action with quality. What you really want is just good writing and art
Realism and detail are highly overrated. They can look nice when done well, but they aren't the be-all and end-all of quality in art, and I feel like people only want them because they're relatively uncommon today
We don't need more of this or more of that, we need more variety in general. More variety means more choice for the consumer, and more freedom for artists. Having more shows in different styles would solve basically every single one of Yea Forums's problems with the animation industry
Higher framerates look better unless you're doing intentionally limited animation a-la UPA. I know you don't NEED a high framerate to do good animation, but the best high framerate animation still will always look more natural than the best low framerate animation.
At the same time, good animation doesn't come from the amount of motion, it comes from the quality of what motion you have. I will always admire a head tilt where everything stays super on-model and consistent and solid the whole time way more than a super flashy fight scene where the characters proportions change constantly and their construction melts
The 2010s isn't as bad as Yea Forums makes it out to be. It's not as good as the 90s or even the 2000s, but your kidding yourself if you think they're anywhere near as bad as the 70s or 80s.
Most cartoons made from 1980-1987 have aged horribly and people only like them because of a combination of nostalgia and the small handful of very short well animated scenes that shows would have here and there every so often. Outside of those they had 70s tier animation and went off model so much it would make steven universe blush
People need to stop comparing western animation to anime. They're vastly different styles with vastly different audiences
Thomas Carter
Looks like Tomstar is back on the menu
Julian Nelson
>can we wait another 3 years
She has other projects, you know
Easton Walker
that's a pretty good reason to go look for his daughter instead of getting himself crystallized for sure
Kayden Richardson
her current projects fucking suck
Luis Young
It should have happened after S3 ended when people cared.
Jackson Diaz
Marco sacrifices himself to save Star and Tom, Moon shows up to help them escape, Star goes back to magic realm via well to save Marco because she loves him and Tom is safe
James Allen
It would be worth the wait
Thomas Ward
>"Easy-Peasy, Time Freezy"
Just how long did Star and Marco end up staying in that barn before finally walking out arm in arm.
>Tom's horn
>TomStar back on the menu
>"If I can't have you, NO ONE will!"
Tom for ultimate beta faggot cuck 2019
Nathan Gray
Long enough for 4 years unbridled sexual tension and teen angst to make a glopping noise
David Morris
So, 10 minutes tops right?
Ryan Jones
>Two 16-year old virgins super hot for each other having their first time together.
Yeah, more like 25 seconds I'm betting.
Benjamin Sanders
>imagine being this boring cuck
Jayden Peterson
>Just how long did Star and Marco end up staying in that barn
Who knows. Star can alter time and space at will and she doesn't even need the wand to do it anymore. I'm sure she made the most of it though.
Cameron Martinez
FUCK MAGIC
FUCK BUTTERFLIES
MARCO FUCK ME
Owen Collins
This is why.
Jayden Gutierrez
>4.75 feet
I think user is off by a bit.
Joshua Cruz
So what?
We had Tom's horns in two episodes after the break up.
What else is new?
Daniel Howard
>All we need is me and you.
What if Star makes everything go away, and it's just the two of them at the end of it all?
Charles Bell
Cooper Torres
There's several minutes of awkward fumbling at least.
John Bailey
>Just how long did Star and Marco end up staying in that barn before finally walking out arm in arm.
Long enough that "Marco Jr" will be born in 9 months.
Ryan Cruz
IN THAT BARN IN FRONT OF THE PIG GOATS
Jacob Allen
That’s her shirt
Angel Peterson
Tom's cuck horns
Carson Clark
Henry Lee
Based and avarianpilled
Caleb Morris
Don’t you ever get tired of posting about the Cotugno takeover rumor (yes, RUMOR, not fact) on every single Star thread? You’ve already gotten the point across to us regulars, but nothing is gonna change.
Brayden Perez
>OH THAT'S THAT GOOD SHIT!
Suck it Mina, ya bush league Broly rip off
Angel Rodriguez
You and Aku-poster give me life.
Ryan Adams
Ryan Hall
Thanks for the memes posted so far, please keep them coming. Anything this general has produced over the years, feel free to post.
Christian Collins
Elijah Moore
Alexander Rodriguez
Ayden Jenkins
Camden White
Wyatt Wood
>Image
the fuck this is actually a nice "humanization" of cartoon charaters. I could read a comic like that based on the series.
Alexander Johnson
Marco looks fine, but Star's manjaw is hideous.
Dylan Barnes
Good Luck with this one...
Christian Cooper
I'll just have to split it into parts.
Sebastian King
When this isn't even the creepiest shit I've seen about Star
>mfw
Liam Walker
Ayden Collins
Then fucking share, faggot.
Robert Thomas
no change in the sky, so unfortunately no implied additional time
Xavier Carter
Do you think Tom has some sort of Cuck pocket Dimension
Like it's a cuck-shed but for people who have the ability to traverse Dimensions. I Imagine he would be put in a state of existence & non-existence, until Marco is finish ramming his Chicano cock in star.
Asher Martinez
Fucking Schrödinger's cuck shed
David Sanders
Because she's a sexy babe.
Gavin Lopez
Yes
Hudson Walker
>he doesn't have an action fetish
Henry Ross
There's strong circumstantial evidence to support the insider leak about Cotugno blackmailing Nefcy.
Adrian Phillips
>Shoulders and Wings
Josiah Reyes
That would imply he is in a constant state of both being cucked and not being Cucked, and the only way to be sure is to observe him.
But every time we've seen him, he's in the same state. Cucked. So I'm pretty sure he's just permenantly that way.
Jaxon Morris
Why would someone put so much effort into a creepy ass shitpost?
Elijah Wilson
Aiden Hill
>Also there's an episode where she and Marco's baby sister Mariposa accidentally crawl through one of Hekapoo's open
Wait, hold on, that was supposed to be an accident? I thought it was supposed to be a setup to keep Marco and Star away from Mewni when Mina attacks.
Which I found an uncharacteristically cruel, and not too effective distraction, and also not in line with Hekapoo just saving them two episodes later. But an accident? I don't remember Hekapoo's portals ever staying open more than they had to. Isn't she supposed to be the mother of all portals or somthing?
Adam Johnson
Man, I remember how hyped we were for Globgor.
We were really desperate for a good villain, weren't we?
Adrian Scott
This man gets it
Aaron Gomez
Oh cool it's the Star Fissure image I made back in 2017! Man I miss when I loved this show and we all theorized about Multiverse Star and how we could enter it through our fanfics and drawfics to extract perfect Star waifus... gosh, the lost innocence of youth, huh.
William Jackson
Those were fun times. When it was only the potential of the show out there, and not it's failures.
>So... Your bestied did this to you?
Wait, what?
Tyler Mitchell
Ayden Moore
Easton Peterson
Haha Funny :D Who's the artist?
Josiah Lewis
How does Star Vs compare to the likes of Sailor Moon or Princess Tutu?
Blake Rodriguez
Star Vs wants to be deep but fails at it
SM and PT both knew what they wanted from the start and were great at what they're doing
Ethan Powell
>deep
Oh? And which cartoons succeed at being deep, if indeed any?
Andrew Gutierrez
HOL UP
Justin Reyes
star is a cuck lol
Easton Williams
western ones? none
Jonathan Thompson
Those were some good times
Nolan Brown
Jaxon Torres
William Morgan
Here's the big question, how would any of you have created the show differently?
I, personally, would have gone with the original concept, in which Star only imagines that she's a fantasy princess, but really she's an autistic girl.
Logan Scott
>Wait, what?
It's a Between Friends line.
Camden Roberts
I would have set it up like Aladdin with a rotating cast of villains, each wanting the wand for their own reasons.
Ludo and his gang of misfits want to be taken seriously and the wand will do that.
Toffee and the Septarians want the wand to raise their leader Seth from the dead.
Eclipsa wants the wand because she believes it's rightfully hers and also wants to free Glibgor.
Heinous wants the wand to grant her eternal youth.
Mina wants the wand so she can kill all monsters.
Eventually set up a Dark Lord type character that would be like Star's Doom Phantom. Final conflict must have huge stakes, Mewni and Earth are in danger, maybe all of reality.
Elijah Allen
I'm pretty sure that's what we're gonna end up getting. Everything in the show was just a girl who thinks her name is Star Butterfly, her mind collapsing on itself in madness. Magic isn't fucking real. Nefcy's final fuck you to the world.
To answer your question I wouldn't have assassinated Marco with that meat blanket shit, completed Starco in season 3, and made Eclipsa actually evil while leaving Heinous as her separate entity. The show needed to do what Kim Possible did and make the third season the best season instead of the worst.
Lincoln Lewis
>I'm pretty sure that's what we're gonna end up getting
No, I don't think they'd go *that* far...
And what about those cartoons that do get it right, preferably ones that are already finished?
Thomas Torres
They needed to consistently up the stakes after Battle for Mewni using previously established plots instead of spinning in circles with all these "misunderstood" antics with Eclipsa, Heinous and Globgor. You can't have a guy like Toffee infect all of magic and then follow it up with no villains whatsoever.
Also and equally important is framing. Star makes as many mistakes as she used to but the show plays it off like the world is wrong for making her actions result in failure, or as a joke. The last truly outstanding episode was Face the Music, and we haven't had a return to quality like that since.
William Fisher
Jack Collins
I would make starco happen in season 3, flesh out Mewni and the Monster/Mewman conflict, put all the book's lore into the show itself, and flesh out Meteora as a villian more. Eclipsa wouldn't be evil super bad, but she would essentially be the apex of Star's issue of being selfish and running away from everything and having no concerns for others. Eclipsa and Globgor would actually react to the fact that it's been 300 years and the Mewni they knew is not the same and visibly struggle to adapt. More development of Starco as a couple.
Joshua Gray
I would've kept everything s1 and s2 but have the stakes go up as each villain goes along. Plus pic related is what I wanted season 3b and on to be but NOOOOOOOO
Sebastian Ortiz
Why is her face neapolitan ice cream
Lucas Williams
Because she's MonStar, BoyStar, regular Star, TableStar, Sky, Star Dunderfly and original Star.
Cooper Ward
dunno if this pic qualifies, but when it came to kellco i remember it getting posted sometimes
Luke Hall
>"Marco, the safe kid that he is, would have Chris Hansen on your ass so fast not even a pair of dimensional scissors could help you!"
lel
Hunter Fisher
Can someone please recommend me some cartoons that, instead of SVTFOE, start strong and end strong?
Juan Martin
Bionic Six
Blake Reed
Spider-man the 90's animated series, provided you watch the fifth season in a special order.
When it's finished maybe Tangled.
Landon Martinez
Aladdin, if you end with King of Thieves
Gavin Green
Mystery Incorporated.
Kim Possible.
Fillmore.
Benjamin Smith
And start with Return of Jafar
Zachary Lewis
S1 & S2 stay the same, S3 Starco happens. Have higher stakes from previous seasons, have Eclipsa’s magic be more corrupting, have Eclipsa have traits that reflect Star’s bad side, make Globgor more colorful (anger issues but still deep down kind), and whatever said
Landon Bailey
Jace Bell
>S1 and S2 were fine. S3 is supposed to be about Star learning to become a better better princess. This means recognizing the faults in her own mothers rule, the state of the kingdom, the importance of her own role. S4 is Star becoming a better Queen... not as a rubber stamp like St. Olgas had intended, but in implementing the policies she stands behind.... and having to fight through the muck and mire to make such lofty ideals a reality. "Magic can't solve everything" theme that we currently seem to heading towards anyways.
>Eclipsa doesn't save the day in S3. Instead, she witnesses Star murder her child to protect Mewni. It turns her to villainess route who works to free Globgor and punish the butterflies
>Moon is found and ultimately killed by Eclipsa via some aspect of that dark contract. Eclipsa coldly responds to Star a member of my family for a member of yours.
>Starco much earlier. Couple working together, being cute, overcoming challenges together
>Star/Marco vs. Eclipsa/Globgor power couple battle finale
>Mina's a mid-boss for S4, a reminder of past policies that have rippled throughout Mewni's history to Star
>Startom bullshit gets the same treatment Kelco does. Teasing... maybe a quick hookup when Star and Marco get into some fight over policy, roles, or actions... only to be broken unceremoniously as complete shlock an episode or two later.
>Marco commute to Mewni, but other characters eventually call him out on it, including Jackie. This is the drive for him to stay there more permenantly.
Joseph Parker
Season 3 should have Eclipsa go insane from experimenting herself with dark magic, with Star n Co(Globgor could help out) finding ways to stop her rampage.
Season 4 should have Eclipsa be cured of her curse, but instead Star now has it and it affects her body much more worse(Turning her into a freakish bug kaiju in the process(Like the one in the pic)). Now Ludo(Who's now the main char of Season 4) n Co must work together to stop Star's rampage across dimensions.
Justin Campbell
Let me show you a place where you can talk about a better Marco love interest
discord.
gg/qjFBmpv
Cameron Lewis
Go shill your gay furry discord somewhere else, user.
Isaiah Peterson
There's literally less than zero chance of Tomstar being a thing again.
If those really are Tom's cuck horns then probably the reason Star is crying is that he just threw himself in front of her and died protecting her from the dark unicorn.
Joseph Fisher
discord is awesome, it's just like Yea Forums but with insane amounts of spyware and spergs for admins
Mason Smith
David Lewis
Less damned ponyhead episodes, earlier Starco, make the Solarian warriors seem more justified, reduce the number of loopholes, etc. Basically just hammering out the crappy parts of the show.
Luke Walker
I didn't mean that it was never explained WHY he vored him, I meant that the exact "complicated" situation surrounding that and supposedly absolving him of his guilt has a timeline/sequence of events that's wonky as fuck.
Also as another user said, if he knew Meteora was just missing and not dead, seems pretty damn retarded to EAT the guy who knows where she is and who could potentially reveal her location under threat of torture/vore instead. Like maybe monsters are too stupid to let live after all, if your first reaction isn't to find your fucking daughter who's still alive but I MUST EAT YOU NOW
Blake James
FOOT FAAAAAAAG!
Levi Rogers
I took it to just be accidental/carelessness. I don't think she'd necessarily know that they'd go into it.
There was also that portal she left open in Marco's room in Running with Scissors. Yeah, I think it was mainly there so Marco would have a way back to Earth if he gave up, but she didn't seem to think about the possibility of Star accidentally wandering through it (and at that point in the series she was on Star's side).
Lincoln Cox
>reminder that mewmans are actually humans and we learned about this through Glossaryck in the Reynaldo episode and then again when Marco saw the mural at Britta's Tacos
>reminder that star is gonna destroy magic and then wake up on earth
>reminder that star will end up with marco
Andrew Hill
So... it's Yea Forums?
Owen Cooper
Pretty much.
Asher Hughes
I can't bring myself to call the show bad. It feels rushed for sure, but they at least had the decency to not drag this out forever like some other shows.
Tyler Morris
>under threat of torture
user it's a kids show
Jordan Campbell
Starco was developing since S1, problem was the execution because it happened right before the end of the show and it make look like really rushed.
Jose Rivera
Pretty sure that's been done/implied on this show before (hell, Ludo killing the rat landlord dude was pretty much that except ALSO involving vore). I didn't mean to get graphic with it, but like "tell me where she is right now or things will get a lot worse for you."
I honestly find him being eaten much worse in terms of appropriateness for children or whatever, when the show then goes on to portray him as a sweet-natured innocent family man. Hell, even going back to Ludo, at least Ludo as a "good guy" is still somewhat of a creep, and in Ludo's case it wasn't HIM doing the voring.
Ryder Cook
Honestly its an 8/10 show. Sure there was shipping drama but that shit was fun and led to a lot of good shitposting.
Jace Johnson
it's completely okay to rape/torture/kill/vore a RACIST WHITE MALE
Ryder Gutierrez
Anthony Kelly
Oh hai Rape-kun!
Luke Morris
Why didn't tiny Marco make his dream come true?
Jacob Cook
Well, whatever flaws Bill had at least he was a better villain than Mina
Liam Watson
>implying his dream wasn't falling for S ar
Grayson Garcia
Stakes
Landon Scott
I don't think Tiny Marco and Tiny Star are capable of leaving the game board.
Sebastian Rogers
first one of these I've seen that wasn't sitting at the base of the uncanny valley. nice.
Kevin Powell
We need more pregnant Starco
Sebastian Rivera
They just don’t wanna leave each other’s side
Isaac Gray
Art imitates life
Nathan Wood
fucking adorable, I need more.
Joshua Fisher
Well he was ugo and hated babies so it was ok.
Jason Price
Xavier Miller
Yes yes yes
Asher Robinson
No excuse for Star, her mouth shape is what draws me to the show no matter what others think.
Jack Perry
‘cause she’s cute, and cause Marco is a self-insert for every awkward male here so sort of makes up for the lack of romance in their lives.
Easton Torres
Season 1 was the best when it was fun adventures with Earth as a base and Toffee being an interesting villain at the time.
Alexander Bailey
Why does the magic council hate monsters? Arent they monsters?
Oliver Turner
I think it’s specifically only certain types of monsters. Some monsters are tolerated better than others.
Jordan Wilson
Does the show ever spell it out?
Jaxson Lopez
Who's that OC?
Brandon Bell
i see the council as superior entities rather than monsters tho
Charles Brooks
based heekapoo post-
>discord
kill yourself and stop liking H-Poo
Lincoln Wilson
Here Here!
Asher Clark
I can't believe the ride ends this Sunday lads. It was an honor to shitpost with you through all these years even though the show wasn't great at some moments
Joseph Howard
Connor Morris
How do you cope with fact that Eclipsa is the most popular character (not including Star & Marco)?
It's not fair......
Kayden Nelson
I bitch ineffectually on Yea Forums
Hunter Brown
He doesn’t know
Isaac Reyes
Why should I cope?
Only contrarians on Yea Forums hate her.
William Thompson
You're right user. We do. With any luck, we'll continue tho get more
Anthony Garcia
it's the shoulders!
Colton Turner
Meh Eclipsa is my favorite character after Toffee
Jaxon Sullivan
At the very least, some kind of flash forward would be nice where we see them as parents. They have been referenced as parents far too many times for it not to happen.
Jace Cooper
Is she though? Unironically like Toffee more than her. She was a bait and switch villain who diluted the series with how her dindu message weakened her role and the "lesson" she was trying to teach rather than enhancing the story. We got a Mary Sue instead of a tragic heroine.
Leo Gray
I don't know if Daron was the one in fault for this but I don't see this being what she actually planed to happen in the show.
From season 2 to 4 this ship thing got out of control, my god how stupid the ship circle jerk is.
this was painful to watch.
Marco made a literal harem and probably got with everyone in mewni and cucked tom.
Then they made him and Kelly be a thing just to scrap that shit in 2 eps.
Fuck off!
In season 3 Marco got his hands in star's wand and got those moon marks on his cheeks, this was great. Marco had a dark side in him though he was such a
Nice guy to everyone.
This is where things get messy, its still a mystery why he got the moon cheeks and why the wand morphed to this goth themed one.
Its ridiculous, People were talking that the moon cheek thing was a thing because he and star were linked by the blood moon, that doesn't make any sense!
This thing got totally scrapped tho, we never get any answers about this and Marco continued being Star squire as nothing really happened.
This is the first plot hole “of many”.
Back in season 2 ep 31 Marco spent almost 15 years in Heckapoo dimension, in the end of the episode he appeared to have some kind of post disorder stress for spending so
Many years in another world.
He spent more time in that dimension than in earth with star.
in the next episode everything got scrapped and went back to normal.
Josiah Rivera
can we just appreciate how bluejr draws the star booty? i'd post the one of marco proneboning star but i like not getting banned
Jose Ross
Theres an episode in S3 where star complains about it. Basically they make exceptions for money and or power.
Dylan Parker
Tom is more popular than Eclipsa though
Cooper Butler
It is a nice booty. Is he one of those types to just draw whatever they want, or do they take commissions?
Jace Bell
But there's a better fetish
Ayden Jenkins
James Anderson
Lincoln Davis
Most upsetting thing about him breaking up with Kelly is that it happened off screen. I have shipped Starco from the very start, but damn it pissed me off how they handled Kelly.
Now the thing about Hekapoo's dimension is that it is on a different timeline, it's not as simple as him aging faster, because when he returns to a normal timeline he reverts back to his old body. Yeah he keeps his experience, but he loses any muscle that he gains in that dimension. In other words, in 15 years on earth if he ends up a fat 30 year old from eating too many tacos, but then he goes to Hekapoos dimension again, he will have his sixpack and muscles again. Basically, he's a different person there. I suppose that once he's back on earth he forgets a lot of what happened in Hekapoo's dimension and progressively begins to feel like his normal self again despite retaining the skills he gained.
Logan Anderson
By what metric?
Hudson Watson
Kelly was trash tier from the start, you should have known better.
Sloppy seconds on an inferior Jackie from Pizza Crusher Tad vs. Lucicucks untouched, fertile fields
Cooper Bailey
Sebastian Richardson
Context?
Wyatt Fisher
Just go to the link, you fucking retard.
Blake Baker
Ransomgram monster, she appears like for 20 seconds in three different episodes. She has a really cute voice and design but it’s a shame she only appears for a few seconds for a gag.
Carter White
Hey anons still shitpost about Adventure Time so maybe one day someone will make a thread about the memories of shitposting we had.
Besides, might as well make Sunday the best shitpost fest right?
Xavier Nguyen
Nevermind, I checked the link. My bad user.
Blake Garcia
I ain't clickin' shit. Archive or nuttin
Aaron Moore
I just watched the last four episodes because I got really disappointed with this shit and couldn't be bothered, but still want to see the finale. And huge wtf, why is no one sperging about the way they made starco official?
They made it seem like Marco was mad in love with Star from the beginning and be pathetic beta cuck throughout their entire relationship when canonicaly it was Star who liked him from the start and got cucked hard before the staff decided to do an ass pull 180 after over 2 seasons because they're retards with no interesting ideas.
Jesus the people who took over when battle of Mewni ended just can't have enough can they. Ruining the parts they got their hands on doesn't satisfy them, they just need to retroactively shit on the good parts as well.
John Perry
Everyone is complaining about it. It just ain't no use in whining about a series that went bad after season 2.
Starco fags are just happy they finally have their ship fucking canon. They were getting shit sandwiches for the least 4 seasons so they ain't gonna complain that they got couple of maggots roaming around in their PB&J.
As for the ending, it's probably gonna be happy or what (POTENTIAL SPOILER) said. I don't know if he's true, so spoiler warning anyhow.
Angel Ramirez
Is there such a thing as being too wholesome?
Luke Gonzalez
I said it was stupid. I didn't make a big autistic production out of it because I don't ship anything in the first place and, come on, who expected Star Vs. to suddenly get good again on episode fucking 75, but I feel the same way.
Marco was totally mildly annoyed by Star for a good chunk of the time in S1 and even kinda some parts of S2. It doesn't come off like he consistently had feelings for her from the beginning, unless her acting weird kills his boner and that's why he'd get so mad, or some shit. Even Blood Moon Ball maybe comes off more like the first time he noticed she can be hot than anything.
Setting the kiss in the pig-goat stables was dumb too. Again, not dumb enough to freak out about, but it almost makes me wonder if whoever was in charge of that part just wasn't into pairing and so wanted to make viewers (sub)consciously find it gross, by putting it in a barn filled with animals and shit. /conspiracy
Owen Hernandez
Maybe it's proof that Starco fags really will put up with just about anything to have their ship be canon.
Henry Lee
I already wrote that in one of the other 3455 threads, but I think it's very possible that people who took over and made the show shit genuinely wanted to make tomstar, kellco or whatever the endgame, but were overruled by higher ups.
That's why we did get starco, but the show makes quite visible effort to make it into a pyrrhic victory.
Aiden Barnes
Starco can never be too wholesome
Aaron Hughes
I was all-in on them resetting starco with bloodmoon ep after they realised how much they fucked up with booth ep only to then make it even worse when it finally happens and I was wrong! Equally bad/unsatisfying is probably an objective assessment. So congratulations are due I guess.
Ryder Evans
People were literally calling her cuckerfly and hoping for a tomco ending.
Brody Barnes
Can’t glosserack just go back in time and stop all this. Also can star even go back to earth since she literally killed a cop
Angel Gray
>Also can star even go back to earth since she literally killed a cop
Don't worry they're California cops. Got the investigation skill of a blind mute quadriplegic.
William Ross
Never.
And yeah. It was a shit sandwich, likely for all the representation stickers and reasons mentions. But I'll take a win regardless cuz it does fill my heart with joy seeing them interact together. Rushed as fuck. It would've been nice to have been spread more evenly across S3 and S4. But Cotugno had to be appeased for fear of reprisal.
Samuel Roberts
It's like with that article by that fag complaining that doctors don't tell them insistently enough that eating ass spreads shit-related infections. Every time I click the link, it instantly links me to a different article, even though at first it is clearly trying to load a page that exists.
> m-maybe it's set up to automatically link you to a similar article
No, because if you type in the beginning of an article's address followed with gobbledygook, you get pic related. It's pretty obvious to me that Nefcy found out about the article, threw a fit, threatened all kinds of shit, and the incompetent staff at cartoonbrew just added a line of code at the top of the actual page to make it instantly link somewhere else and bury it that way before any of you thought to archive it.
Jeremiah Green
Never ever
Hunter Butler
The article was actually legit? Or are you just fucking with every one?
Alexander Harris
I'm saying there exists a page at the end of that link, you just can't reach it any more, and it's gone from the archives I've checked, too. So either they put up a page at the end of that link for the sake of a weird clickbaitey april fool's joke where the page the link leads to has nothing to do with any of the words in the address, or the article was legit and at some point scrubbed for some reason. I'm not even making a statement on what reason, it could be anything from
> the editor thought it was a bad look for the website or Nefcy
> the article contained inaccuracies that the author regretted putting in there and having to admit to
> Nefcy pulled a favour to get it scrubbed
> Nefcy threatened defamation-related legal action
Thomas Reyes
When I click on it, it takes to the Loud House guy getting fired article.
>Nefcy became enraged, calling Noji a "disgrace to her race" and a "disappointment to her family", and fired her on the spot
>When Noji tried to fight the firing at Human Resources, Nefcy reportedly put her fingertips on the outside of her eyelids and pulled, giving her face an Oriental expression while loudly shouting "MOSHI MOSHI" repeatedly to drown out Noji's speech.
Man, this reminds me of the time I met FlyLo at a store.
David Jenkins
mating time!
Dominic Brooks
no idea. wish he drew more of star specifically. he draws the show a lot but not our favorite butterfly
Alexander Richardson
>Flash forwards
>Not wanting teen pregnant starco
user... (¯―¯٥)
Hudson King
>they just need to retroactively shit on the good parts as well
This kind of thing bothers me a bit. Like Janna hypnotizing Marco offscreen so now he wants to vomit at the sight of nachos.
It's weird; back in the first season I was never fixated on nachos as Marco and Star's favorite food or anything. But sometimes you just look at more recent jokes or plot developments and they just kind of come off like "haha, FUCK what the show used to be" and it's a little depressing.
Jeremiah White
*хpyм*
Jason Watson
But Marco wants to go to University and shit. He can't become a father now.
John Walker
>implying that Star won't settle into motherhood while Marco goes to college online like a NORMAL person
James Price
online classes make me even lazier and more unproductive than I already am
Josiah Parker
Still a better alternative than going to a liberal safe space where you get accosted for wrong think.
Blake Powell
I got tha beetus now
Jack White
I've been rewatching S1. And I'm finding some of the stuff used for shitty shit now was seeded as far back as then. Even though I think things were intended to be used differently than they ended up being used.
Jackie was never intended as an actual serious love interest for Marco. She was supposed to be the unreachable high school stacy that he thirsts for but never gets his hands on, and then grows out of chasing to settle for Star.
Meteora/Mrs. Heinous had her club cheeks as far back as her very first episode, but when they manifested, she didn't display any monster traits. Chances are she wasn't intended to be what we now know as Meteora, but instead a past butterfly who fell from grace and then suppressed her butterfly traits, created a new identity and started a finishing school. Most likely, race was never an intended theme with anything involving her in the first place.
Janna was being even more creepy around Marco in particular than she still is in later seasons. She was likely intended to be some sort of rival for Star.
The monsters dindu nuffin subplot was ironically seeded in S1 through Mewnipendence day. But already then, the lacking introspection in the more politically minded side of writing shows in how monsters are implied to be in the right, in spite of admittedly lacking the technological prowess to make so much as a fucking spiked mace or a suit of armor. Let alone a gun. On top of the whole 'you could always just leave us alone' deal they've got going on. Literal cavemen with animal faces who attack you just for it's own sake.
Ayden Murphy
Didn't you hear? The College Board is adding "adversity points" to SAT scores. Teen parenthood would surely give Marco a bump.
Zachary Green
TOO SOON AND TOO RELEVANT
Sebastian Morales
I personally thought Marco and Jackie eventually getting together was an inevitability from the way almost ever time they interacted in S1, Marco would make more progress with her (from not even trying to interact with her at all to texting/sitting with her by the season's end). So the way things happened between them in S2 didn't surprise me. I also think Janna was pretty much always meant to be what she was, since the story was that she was just supposed to be a generic background character but after she was given the line about wanting to fuck the tentacle arm they decided to keep writing her as a creepy weirdo.
But I definitely agree with you about Heinous. Nothing about that makes much sense. I'd also mention that her "sucking youth" only became a thing in S3 to justify how she could be Eclipsa's daughter and still be alive; she wasn't aging or anything when she went without it for nearly a year until she suddenly needed it.
And yeah, the monster stuff was always around but they've gone to an especially lame place with it. Even in S2 there were plenty like Buff Frog who were mercenaries etc., when by S4 they're all just sweet and gentle, even with tamer and more cutesy designs.
Nolan Martin
Yea Forums are pedophiles
Alexander Ward
It's shocking how much Solaria affected Eclipsa's view of parenting.
I was confused on Eclipsa always being around Meteora and only chosing babysitting as the last option, even when it's dangerous. I assumed it was due to Meteora being alive a miracle and Eclipsa's fear of losing her again.
And then, boom! Pizza party hapoened and it turns out she is repeating Solaria's system of carrying her daughter around everywhere... even battles.
Then there's the snookers obsession etc...
These are the kind of little details I like about the show.
Joseph Myers
If Solaria really cared that much about having Eclipsa always near her Eclipsa wouldn't have met Globgor
This shit was just a last second asspull
>they like the same snack they must really love each other OMG!!
fuck off
Jack Sanders
She tried to have her around all the time but, like every kid with over-controling parents, Eclipsa found a way to dissapear for hours using the castle's secret corridors. Pic related.
It's in the book.
I kinda relate in this part because I spent my teenage years escaping from my bedroom's window to avoid the long interrigatory my mother put me through every time I wanted to go out.
Jeremiah Harris
Solaria should have beaten Eclipsa's ass.
Connor Butler
she punished her by force marriage
Aaron Fisher
>implying that Star won't settle into motherhood
Starvwill never settle. She gets bored too easily.
James Gonzalez
She has her....star-ness from her father. Who did settle. She will settle. People don't come out of nowhere. Everyone who exists in the here and now, is the result of a several million year long uninterrupted chain of people not being genetic dead ends.
Andrew Roberts
Breeding needs to stop
Dominic Watson
Surprised Disney let a character have a child outside of wedlock.
Grayson Murphy
And yet this is what we got. Also magic is bad, because why the fuck not?
Leo Jenkins
Can someone post Star getting hurt? I need it
Colton Hughes
The worst part about the way starco became real is that the show used to have this arc where a cool, popular and attractive girl develops feelings for her beta orbiter friend, but amazingly gets rejected and doesn't know how to cope with it. Whether you care for shipping or not, at least that's somewhat original and interesting. But these dumbfucks turned it into 101% geek confesses his desperate feelings after months of blueballing, but it's OK because his dream Stacy was just dumped by her chad demon bf and likes him too. It's even more ironic when you consider how hard this show fishes for subverted your expectations meme points. And yet they use the most tired cliche to resolve one of the, if not THE, most important story arcs and even go through ridiculous retcon loops to do it. Clueless writers are clueless.
Austin Gray
>No Meteora
>No Mina as the final boss
>No Tomstar
>No turning Marco into a fucking asshole
>Eclipsa as the last villain
I would also develop Jackie's relationship with Marco more, so their eventual breakup would actually hurt both of them.
Ryder Harris
Shit taste. That only proves you can be as much shitty bitch as you want if you're acting cutesy/dumb. And that's why such guys will never get a nice gf.
Daniel Jackson
>implying Ludo isn't gay
Colton Cook
Who stole your boyfriend?
Charles Edwards
You sound desperately apologetic mate. I guess if you look hard enough you will see what you want to see, but it's pretty obvious that S3-4 has a "Harry Potter writing" connections to the good seasons. Which just means that when it runs out of ideas it takes minor stuff mentioned previously and blows it out of proportion hoping someone will care.
Jace Stewart
Why not? It proved feminazi single mothers only mess up. Comet did better because she was classy and didn't hate men like Solaria.
Eclipsa wanted a father figure so badly she asked Alphonse's portrait for permission before going out. If Solaria had approved on Eclipsa bonding with her father, by going together on travels, she wouldn't have grown to be close to Globgor.
Nathaniel Green
Have sex Elliott
Justin Rodriguez
why is Solaria such a man hater anyway? again, no explanation at all
Jaxson Williams
Obligatory comic
Luke Sanders
>short hair
>single parent
>wand is a large sword ie phallic symbol
She's a feminist
Chase Cruz
Oliver Williams
That's wholesome
Jason Anderson
The end
Jordan Taylor
Men settling is different from women settling. The tendencies she gets from her father will result in flightiness. She will be a complete party girl as a young adult. She might have a kid but Marco's going to be stuck with it most of the time.
Jonathan Morris
Emotional or physical?
Tyler Rivera
There's no subtlety at all. The people crafting shit used to be highly intelligent and capable of nuance.
Bentley Adams
If its Marco she'll settle down, she loves him too much to lose him
Aaron Perry
but why?
she had two loving parents and a fabulous older brother that would help her during war. Alphonse seemed like a nice guy too that would be ready to be a father. There's no reason for her to be such a cunt.
Eclipsa is one of the only princesses that never had a close friend and considering the forced marriage would only take place after Solaria's death as stated in her will, she really thought she would be the only contact person for Eclipsa for most of her life and that's enough. Just absolutely awful parenting.
If Eclipsa is only a bit similar to Solaria Meteora would be better off to spend the rest of her life in the neverzone.
Austin Hall
That's a symptom. Not the cause. But a woman being a strong leader like solaria, while hard to believe as is, isn't as far-fetched as a woman going full ethnonationalist and plotting to purge all the monsters, that takes the cake. So possibly, the idea for a backstory behind it is
> be solaria
> be blue-eyed young princess/queen
> have beautiful chad husband
> get knocked up
> go through emotional swings
> husband ditches you for a hot gator girl
> wind up a single mother in charge of a country constantly attacked by monsters
There, heartbreak and good, rational reasons to act on said heartbreak. All you need to explain the phenomenon that is Solaria. It even has a little extra detail
> eclipsa is the daughter of a monster-smoocher
> winds up a monster-smoocher like her father
It's a pity that unlike her father, she never produced any actual children.
Easton Edwards
>trying to understand a woman
Kevin Rodriguez
What do you think Marco would go into Uni for?
Ryder Clark
>"haha, FUCK what the show used to be" and it's a little depressing
Disney in a nutshell
Jonathan White
Please not liberal arts
Jacob Powell
>bowing to the throne
And here I was thinking you couldn’t possibly be more of a delusional faggot yet here you are
Thomas Sanders
Any kind is gud
Logan Reyes
>spends 4 years in liberal arts despite his aptitude for math
>proceeds to become a Youtuber that talks about relatable stuff and life experiences
Aaron Walker
I wonder if Giancarlo Volpe and the other guy that left after BfM was writing all that stuff
Andrew Price
>gets #MeToo'd by Janna
Brayden Adams
So what's your excuse? Past the age of 16, a man without a family can be a bad thing.
Levi Lewis
> you know, relatable stuff that every average human in a 21st century western country goes through. Like being assigned the effective guardian of a princess from another dimension, getting knighted, or fighting off an invasion led by a slime crocodile
Easton Rogers
>getting knighted
Oh yeah he's now Sir Diaz
Jayden White
The boy actualyy getting to date the Stacy but then realizing he loved his plain jane best friend all along is an ancient trope.
Elijah Murphy
The fact that no one blinks an eye, no less the government, means that either everyone on Earth has some degree of brain damage or magic is such a common occurence that no one cares anymore.
Gabriel Martinez
What if Marco pulls a Terry Crews?
>she gave me something and I found myself waking up on the bathroom floor after 14 hours with her stand over me
Kevin Lopez
That's because a character that's suffering makes us emotionally invested.
Brandon Flores
>Janna giving Marco a roofie
That would be right up Janna's wheelhouse
Oliver Cox
Exactly.
Carson Hughes
You think she got a drug lab out in that junkyard or somewhere in the desert? Maybe an occult drug lab.
Anthony Ross
Thank you Eclipsa, at least you know when someone has the skills to become a knight. Unlike Moon.
Kayden Campbell
>m-muh cliches
>chad demon
Kek is this what tomstarcucks believe?
Your ''chad demon'' literally compares himself with the dog of the ''stacy'' and has to search for good boy points by comparing himself with monsters that he doesn't care.
Yes it fucking sucks the way Starco became canon when it could have happened in the beginning of S4, but the males on this show are pathetic, don't pretend otherwise.
Connor Ward
Say why didn’t Marco just say his post is to defend Star or some corny shit like that?
Sebastian Hall
Well Marco did date at least two other chicks prior so he isn’t a complete loser.
Jose Howard
She’ll probably find a way to get into Uni with Marco. Probably via her access to vast amounts of wealth.
Also where the fuck is Marco getting all his money? Did he dump a bunch of money into Amazon and NVIDIA stocks early on? Are his parents upper class folk who just live like normal middle class folk?
Eli Murphy
I could agree with you if it was the Marco before Season 3, even Tom before Season 3.
But the show did anything possible to make them really pathetic.
And Globgor is a jobber.
Jackson Cook
Parker Hernandez
Thry’re also only 15. Most kids aren’t exactly peak Chad at that age. Globgor gets no execuses (though Eclipsa may have neutered him figuratively speaking).
William Jenkins
He invests his royalty checks in a savings account
Benjamin Torres
What makes you think he isn't going to protect Star?
Angel Davis
He technicaly did that.
Isaac White
Tomfags are upset at how fast Star moved on because it makes her look whore who wasn't really invested in her relationship. Star is suppose to mope and listen to post break up songs for weeks about losing Tom, but she didn't because Marco was there to cheer her up.
Blake Martin
Lot of royalty checks for a kid.
Jayden Lee
Princess Marco has a great marketing firm
Gabriel Turner
>And Globgor is a jobber.
Globgor is the Barry Horowitz of Mewni.
Samuel Campbell
What did they expect about our little psycho?
Xavier Mitchell
Yeah, but at least Marco purpose on life wasn't only Star, even if you dislike the karate ep it gave him his own point of life but the show cut them all so only thing he does is be the dog of Star or pointless shipping with literally who Kelly, and Tom at least could get angry about something before getting lobotomized by his relationship with Star.
If they didn't saw since season 3 the times she didn't give a fuck about him then it's their fault, they even reminder it in beach day when she even said she was having the best day of her life after she cancelled the trip with Tom.
Robert Barnes
God I miss that form fitting outfit.
Charles Martin
>psycho
Star's a teenager, let her be herself user.
William Ramirez
>Disney makes a film about a trap princess
I feel like I wouldn’t be suprised they did this IRL.
Josiah Richardson
The series started off whimsical, random and with little care whether a joke or detail was too off-colour. So much so, while the cartoon doesn't actually show their deaths to us on-screen, star just wantonly murders people at random, and once on-screen, even turns one into a troll. And never turns her back. Keep that. Keep the lulrandum shit. If you have to add serious shit, at least make it entertaining. Keep with certain tried and true tropes. If you have to add an evil queen who has a dedicated forbidden chapter and who's spells corrupt your body if you use them, make her actually evil and don't just make her appear in the garden out of nowhere the way it was done. If you have to start off a series with this 'they're totally going to get together in the end' note, then let them get together and don't cuck the male protagonist for two seasons straight. If you have to make a patronizing niggers-are-innocent subplot like with monsters, at least make it in a way that doesn't fill the audience with constant cognitive dissonance by dedicating half the monsters' screentime to them either stealing shit or getting involved with other monsters stealing shit.
That actually fits so well with S1 and parts of S2, it's like you came here from the universe where Sab didn't take over and recounted Nefcy's original vision for the show.
> he doesn't expect the people on earth aka planet nonsense to have brain damage from the get-go
Someone's been living under a rock I see.
Kayden Martin
Karate was about discipline user
Easton Stewart
>Janna was being even more creepy around Marco in particular than she still is in later seasons. She was likely intended to be some sort of rival for Star.
Janna was originally intended to be a literally who irrelevant tertiary character like the non-Britney cheerleaders or Leah or Hope. The writers liked her character though and gave her screentime. The voice actresses delivery helped, apparently the "let's make some magic" line wasn't supposed to sound so flirty.
Yeah, it's a shame the Mewman vs Monster subplot turned out so lame, because it could have been done really well. I think a show that did it better was Courage the Cowardly Dog. The cat believes that all dogs are evil, but it didn't turn out to all be a misunderstanding, the villain was a dog and legitimately a bad person, but the cat was still wrong about all dogs being evil. They should have done the same thing with the monsters, where there were plenty of monsters who were brigands or bandits or marauders, who were just plain mean or outright hated mewmans, but good monsters like buff frogs or possibly a reformed Ludo.
Owen Cook
Isn’t moving on the number one advice people give each other after break ups? How fast it happened shouldn’t be an issue then. More power to them.
Christian Cox
I needed more episodes of Marco babysitting Mariposa and Meteora. Those were fun.
Jason Evans
I thought Eclipsa married Globgor as soon as she ran away and then popped out Meteora afterward. You never noticed the ring on Eclipsa's and Globgor's fingers?
Austin Cox
I'm pretty sure she was pregnant with Meteora while still with Shastacan.
Ethan Barnes
>Globgor has a ring
>Eclipsa only wears gloves that conceal the constant use of evil magic's affect on her
She's cheating on him. Globgor is a cuckold.
Brody Ortiz
She wears a ring over her glove, but its hard to see in the tapestry. You see her wearing it in the show though.
Jordan Carter
It's also shit advice. It's literal dogshit liberal propaganda. Go fuck someone else lol, who cares about love and growth as a couple, just move on lol, it doesn't matter, life is about having promiscuous mechanical sex with as many people as possible user, fuck you, have sex.
Fuck off. At least tell me to kill myself, that's actually useful advice.
Jace Campbell
This was a good AU and I would like to see the artist’s take on them in season 4.
Lincoln Sullivan
user is talking about Solaria who just raped someone to get pregnant
I don't think so, Eclipsa seems pure enough not to fuck outside of marriage
Dylan Mitchell
No, she had already ran away. But as the divorce wasn't valid yet due to Shastacan's wish to keep the crown, Meteora was considered his daughter legaly speaking.
That's why he ordered to have the baby kidnaped, so he could lie about the baby being related to him by blood.
Given that nobody was going to buy a baby with a tail was his, he had Meteora switched instead. An unnecesary move as we later find out one of Meteora's passive abilities is to hide her monster features and manipulate her appearance at will (changing her face shape, hair color, etc...)
Eli Edwards
>who were just plain mean or outright hated mewmans
literally septarians
Thomas Sanchez
She's a teenage girl, numbnuts.
Ethan Adams
>The voice actresses delivery helped, apparently the "let's make some magic" line wasn't supposed to sound so flirty.
You got a source for that line not supposed to be flirty while Janna stuck her hand down Marco's shirt?
Josiah Sullivan
the MHC didn't want a half monster to get the wand that's why they threw her out again
you really think some fucking muggle decided all of this himself
Gavin Barnes
Anthony Wright
Post dindu-ification, there were plenty of lizardfolk in Eclipsa's kingdom. I meant something more like Pie Folk, where lots of them are bad, but because of Star and Moon and Foolduke, we see they're not bad by nature.
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Notes in this thread if you don't want to watch the whole thing.
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Angel Green
I think the really dangerous monsters really just got slaughtered and are extinct now
there are no more size-shifting mewman eaters around anymore besides Globgor
Jackson Howard
>nudist
Owen Sanders
Joshua Johnson
but then he rejected the knight title, Marco never wanted to help queen eclipsa or the monsters . Eclipsa is a total failure
Zachary Powell
gay
Parker Roberts
Star better be full of Marco's nut under those sheets.
Didn't Marco say he was knighted multiple times in the Neverzone? He could still introduce himself as Sir Marco Diaz, he'd just have to cite the monarchs who granted him the title.
Kayden Ward
Anons really waifu'd Nefcy around 2016-2017. The fact she refused to sign the anti-harassment protest and S2 turned her into Yea Forums darling and despite the many signs that S3 was going to be shit and effectively S3 being shit, many anons remained loyals until early S4
Zachary Smith
We couldn't have known she'd get blackmailed and her husband's genitals put under Cortungo's bladed hands back then. How could we? The future seemed so bright.
Nathan Reed
Of course it was ultimately the MHCs fault, same with the kidnaping as Heekapoo wanted to "save" Meteora.
But they convinced Shastacan to give the order himself so they could blame the idiot, as we saw in the trial.
Justin Bennett
When's the finale dropping?
Nolan Phillips
This sunday I think.
Jackson Collins
Her erotic pre-Disney art also helped matters. And Face the Music was a really, really fucking good episode.
Austin Jenkins
>remove all magic
>monsters turn everyone into broodmares
Lucas Thomas
Asher Brown
fucking perfection, the most wholesome ship in cartoon history.
Kayden Kelly
So Tom dies in the finale? A fitting end to a decent character.
Eli Cruz
Damn 2017. Was that episode that long ago
Landon Gray
Indeed
Brayden Howard
I think we should've seen the writing on the wall when the show implied a literal symbiosis was a toxic relationship with Tad and Kelly.
Caleb Ramirez
the whole show was essentially built around Starco, its great
Brandon Phillips
>Nerfcy pulls an End of Evangelion
Hudson Ross
Wasn't it going to end with Magic only working through love?
Eli Mitchell
That was a fake.
Jack Fisher
>Star and Marco have to repopulate Mewni.
Well he did want 1000 babies.
Grayson King
Sunday 3am est
Chase Clark
I want to see the Spell with no Name being casted again.
Ethan Stewart
Agreed. It was cool
Connor Price
I want to see Star and Marco perform a synchronized Narwhal Blast
Zachary Mitchell
I want to see Star suffer
Camden Watson
>spider with a top hat and spider with a sombrero
Isaac Bailey
My nigga.
Logan Fisher
Agreed
Ryder Wood
I want to see Star __be happy__
Cooper Cox
I want Marco to narwhal blast into Star’s rubber sparkle bounce house.
Jeremiah Jones
I support this.
Caleb Torres
Watch Tangled
Ethan Gomez
Pfft. Don't bother with these guys. They've got 500 metric internet tonnes of fanart depicting a relationship that will at most get 5 minutes of canonicity in the finale, let them live their fictional fiction where Star isn't an egoist and Marco isn't a retard, I guess.
Camden Rivera
I love shipping fusions
Jaxson Martin
what the fuck
Jaxon Nguyen
>elegant goth star
stop it my dick can only get this hard
Kevin Gutierrez
Reminder that tonight starts the beginning of the end. The series marathon stream starts tonight at 10pm est and will end with the finale Sunday morning. Get your popcorn ready.
Link is twitch.tv/jebusmatoi
Isaac Cruz
I hope all 4 Butterflies are in good terms this last episode.
Brayden Sullivan
No.
I hope she dies.
Ryan Mitchell
which one?
Aiden King
Her.
Luis Phillips
oh true, her, I agree, she's the worst one and needs to die
Adam Howard
not gonna lie, Toffee should have killed everyone.
Jonathan Roberts
yeah star vs suffer from what adventure time fell to which was bitting off more than it can chew turning the whole lore of the series into just a weird, rushed and inconsistent final season
the show still funny but yeah the writing a storytelling went to hell
Btw if dont see a deus ex machina ending that makes everything work out ok you cleary have not payed attention to how this show works
Chase Gonzalez
Reminder he was right all along.
Kayden Brooks
You will, since Father Time mentioned that the hardest times are yet to come.
The last episode is gonna be a bumpy ride. But it will have a happy ending for sure.
Grayson Reyes
Me too user.
Bentley Fisher
Based, i'll pop in from time to time.
Nathaniel Baker
>Magic must be erradicated
>Mewman refugees must die
>Make the Monster Kingdoms great again
Ryder Campbell
The hero we didn't deserve.
Elijah Jenkins
>Either Jackie was faking it or Janna take her place
Levi Lewis
Reminder Toffee must spend eternity surrounded by mewman princesses.
Gabriel Wood
for a cold-blooded creature he is really hot
Jaxon Robinson
Just wtf happened to this season?
Its like everything went into an entirely different direction
Daniel Lopez
>this season
The show went to shit when Marco's cape became a meat blanket.
Ayden Mitchell
The funny thing is that they totally forgot demon boy in the magic realm. And nobody cares
Noah Hernandez
Eclipsa gave septarians a 9/10 for a reason.
Parker Peterson
getting a hot dicking from Marco was more important
Christian Barnes
Nah, people will disagree with me but BfM while it was good for a season finale, it also was tainted by the season 3 & 4 writing, Marco already was useless in BfM and his main purpose was to hug Star, kinda like the rest of the show when he is mainly use for shipping.
Also for River and his future retardation, Moon making questionable decisions.
Cameron Williams
India's more modern parts are getting its shit together and with the shift to democracy the class system is getting pushed out. The horror stories all come from their boomer generation and rural territories that are much more backwards/traditional. Sort of like US Mormons and central/south states belief in teen marriage.
You will see a change there as they improve their infrastructure, cut down on the red tape, and younger generations expect more.
Jacob Reed
w-why is toffee shirtless here?
Jordan Perry
The shore is much better off than the center but you still need layers of generational changes to improve things. And as for democracy, as long as corrupt politicians can use the rural population to fake votes, it'll never be a real democracy.
Xavier Rivera
Leo White
Agree, BfM was mostly garbage filler. It didn't explain a lot that still needed to be explained, wasted time on meaningless shenanigans, and dropped the ball with what explanations/lore it did spend time on - the flashback was lame as shit. I'm also still rustled that they called it "Battle for Mewni" when there was barely any battle to speak of.
Cameron Carter
New pic from the finale
Parker Robinson
>you messed with the wrong hombre
>has a gatling gun that shoots peppers
Christian Price
Daily morning exercise before going to work.
Angel Garcia
RIP elliot, he was a great man
Nathaniel Murphy
And what's a real democracy? America? And I'm not talking about the cheetos man. America has always been a plutocracy. In fact, the orange man made such an impact because he wasn't from the fruity little club from where all the presidents come from, neither allignated with them. He was an outsider with incoherent proposals. What they call populitst. What they don't tell is that populists rise to power when the system is broken and people are tired of their leaders.
Owen Robinson
That would only work for a few episodes
Grayson Lewis
Shirtless Toffee makes everything better.
John Carter
>And what's a real democracy?
Switzerland.
Matthew Robinson
I’m so glad they never even remotely teased him coming back. God people would not fucking STOP about him being the villain again. He was beaten! And now gone! Jeez, can’t have an ending or anything gotta be the same shit over and over with these people.
Evan Watson
More shirtless Toffee please
Mason Davis
Why so insecure? You're referring to the time the show went to shit. When it was legit, Tom was clearly portrayed as a bad boy who's popular with girls.
Landon Gonzalez
Levi Smith
>implying that didn't already happen in the pig-goat stable
Jackson Green
how much do you want
Grayson Fisher
Shut up Jebus and stay salty nigga
Jason Rogers
A fate worse than death... being persecuted by copyright lawyers.
Hunter Ross
Why is he so perfect?
Leo Rogers
It was already obvious for a long time how little Star was actually invested in her relationship with Tom. She only gave it any thought when she was actually in Tom's presence or talking to him on her phone. The only reason it lasted as long as it did was because pretending the problems weren't there was easier for both Star and Tom than actually confronting them.
That and because the writers said so. They were overtly on the verge of breaking up in Lake House Fever until a tidal wave of lava showed up to let them avoid the conversation.
Jose Gutierrez
he's not, you're just into liggers
Joseph Thomas
I still haven't figured it out myself.
Colton Davis
Competent villains make for better stories.
Justin Rodriguez
So Star’s nipples are heart shaped, right?
Levi Edwards
Its just so radically different
Season 4 is so different from season 1
We need to make a petition to remale season 4
Parker Hill
Ayden Nelson
No. They're shaped like selfishness and callousness.
Brandon Morris
So ordinary girl nipples then.
That's a shame.
Blake Walker
Normal breast it is then.
Sebastian Young
Charles Price
Choose your posing ligger
Caleb Ramirez
Blake Hughes
Liam Smith
He is bringing sexy back while destroying magic in the process
Jacob Reyes
In case shirtless baby Toffee counts
Eli Lewis
Ryan Phillips
>all ya had to do was answer the God damn question Star!
Jonathan Thomas
Septarians must be gassed
Ryan Bell
Nolan Gutierrez
Close enough
Michael Robinson
ahem: FUCK LIGGERS
Tyler Gray
Caleb Stewart
too bad you'll never get her to have porn faggot
Luis Wood
someone make this into a comic
Nathaniel Adams
Ryan Hill
>sign is pig-goat
Would fucking in front of your zodiac sign mean good luck?
Also: FUCK LIGGERS
Christian Bailey
Does that mean Solaria's nipples would be lightning bolts?
James Perry
>citing some institution
That doesn't mean it aligns with the common definition of a millennial or boomer by the public consciousness of society
Cooper Adams
Zachary Smith
is that a challenge?
Ian Robinson
Why do mewmans have such boring human names?
Tyler Brown
Jacob Stewart
Luke Long
Elijah Thompson
When does the finale air? I don't speak burger time
Isaiah Ramirez
Bentley Turner
That's it for now.
Owen Gonzalez
Lmao for one episode and even Star was more interest in the party than being with him, after that Tom had to kidnap Marco and he had to open his eyes about his obsession wasn't healthy and you have a cucked moment like this while he was watching.
Don't blame me, look at the writers making it this way.
Daniel Nguyen
Friday evening
Wyatt Ortiz
Edittimg the clothes off or turning them Stars into a lacey/sheer camisol would vastly improve this..
Noah Clark
Don't worry user! You got this! It'll just be another 5 minutes
Parker Jenkins
That wasn't me but it's definitely super fucking gay.
Logan Ortiz
Your salt makes my Mtn Dew taste sweeter
Liam Howard
Saturday Afternoon
Justin Allen
I'm glad you find pleasure in drinking sperm killer.
Henry Evans
>drinking sperm killer.
You should try some then. You clearly need it more
Lincoln Thomas
Eclipsa sure knows how to shake her booty. No wonder Globgor became a vegetarian.
Jacob Hill
Starco is canon lads, stay mad