How's Your Webcomic? #562

Nah it's just hard to draw. Grappling and sex are like the most difficult thing to me.

So what character are you going to enter user?

>What was something unexpected that helped you write/draw (or just made things easier)?

I recently discovered my tablet's pen pressure function works (I thought it didn't for a while) which helped me have more control when doing line art

Jawesome
Just fyi, there are programs that can interfere with pen pressure, so if it happens again, don't lose hope. try restarting your art program and see if that fixes it. VLC is one of those I know.

you mean and to get away with it?
its not that hard actually

Oh that's good to know, thanks user I'll keep in mind just in case

admit to it and play it off like it doesn't matter or just say you never heard of the the thing you've ripped off

I just want to do shit that's essentially symbiotes and not have people immediately say "hey this is just venom"

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either embrace it or make major changes to it. make it seem organic that their designs and concepts should end up so similar. Like if you were doing a crimefighter, you wouldn't worry about it being a Batman ripoff to show them training hard in a variety of combat arts and such because... of course you would do that.

So, user, is your main characters your ideal self, or your ideal significant other?

I've always conspicuously left both of those out of my stuff. Felt like it'd be lame and uninteresting. Hasn't stopped people from assuming, though. And that's characters who got shit on a lot.

Little Space Pack sketch I made last night. Once I'm finished with a big project I'm working on, I'll be able to put more time into getting the comic ready!

>What does your ideal comic host/website look like? (Navigation, character pages, about/contact, functions, etc)
I'd love something that could allow scrolling through pages if it were possible, because Oni x Fox has so many pages I can only imagine how miserable it would be to click 'next' for hundreds of pages.... Other than that, a simple and colorful site that's easy to look through would be great.

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do you want it to be the main character or just a random monster?
i think people appreciate the reference regardless
if its the main or side character make their character different enough
if its a monster no one will care and appreciate the reference

If you're having trouble with bug-sun logistics two alternates I thought of
>hollow earth theory- sun is the core but it has an opaque plate on the back for reasons
>hollow earth theory 2- the oceans are transparent from underneath, it's night when our sun moves over a continent

But what I wanted to say is if you're doing a setting that's just cool shit don't put too much emphasis on the science of it. Dark Souls has cool shit, and lore, but most of its lore is 'who' as opposed to 'what'- there's very little focus on fantasy physics.
The Grrl Power webcomic and Warhammer 40,000 are good examples of this- they're both very large, bombastic settings where anything is supposed to be able to happen but feel empty because they set down hard rules about what Chaos is or where shapeshifters/mages? (it's been a while, ok) come from and they can't write around it

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I wouldn't worry about it if it was a rando monster, but I wanted them to be the main point of the series
There's just SO much cool shit you can do, from either an artistic or a storytelling perspective, and the aesthetic and themes scream to me

people like to put in lovecraftian rip-offs in their stories all the time even though the monsters are public domain

are they? didnt that guy operate around the 50s or so?

Haven't drawn anything for my comic in a while so decided to warm up by drawing my main characters

Happy to say that neither of my two main characters are self inserts nor idealized partners, I do put small parts of my personality on all my (relevant) characters tho, I feel it helps humanize them, but it's never big personality traits

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lol no

when was cthulhu writer guy around

As far as I'm aware he specifically encouraged other people to use his mythos

Faces are kinda lopsided but I love their personalities. That's what warmups are good for. Have I seen your comic? I almost thought this was succubus guy at first

late 19th century
even analyzing things that rip him off they usually put his monsters in those timelines

Thanks! I actually haven't started posting it yet, I will soon tho since I finally started picking up steam, I've gotten pretty delayed since it's a bit ambitious for a first project

I've been working on my art and posting it throughout these webcomic topics, please critique it. I want to start a webcomic when I'm competent enough.

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aw good for him
well that explains that. People felt differently about that stuff back then
so why the hell are people always ragging on him for racism then? the statute of limitations there is the 1920s. In the 19th century you'd have to be a moon-eyed moron to think the races were equal, they objectively weren't yet. They didn't yet know that it was because they hadn't had the same opportunities. With the (turns out, shaky) information they had, racism was the only logical conclusion.

Jesus man, CoC is 1928. Think gangsters and tommy guns, not Jack the Ripper you casual.

Early C20th. He died in 1937.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft

>please critique it.
It looks like you're doing construction, given those lines. You're just not doing it right yet. You have to think in 3D. Also look at faces in profile and see what shape they are, especially the lower face area. Your jawlines and chins are shaped right, so that's good. Also I'm not going to bust your chops for drawing rhombus eyes, that's your style. We'll just teach you how to make eyes sink into the face properly, and shift angle as the head moves.

People rag on him for racism because it's the 2010s and they think it makes them good people
He actually was notably racist even for the time though. His racism did color his work as well, like the deep ones capturing people to breed with and slowly corrupting the town with their genes until the good people were gone and everyone was an evil hideous fish hybrid

Yeah but people have been doing that longer than the ultraPC era.
I guess I have a little sympathy for oldtymey eugenics because we instantly went too far the other direction and are still suffering from it. Just like the cruel nature of old mental health care. Beats the hell out of what we did immediately afterwards: fuck all. A little more cold and callous experimentation (with basic scientific competence) back then, and we might actually be able to treat or even cure things now.
All that old thinking is plausible, just so happens it was wrong.

well he did name his cat "nigger man" lol. thats a little more egregious what he said about the jews

Wasn't that at a time when it was just a southern variation of the latin word negro meaning black though? I don't know that it had any connotations yet. Not sure though.
Once it became negative, it stopped referring to black people, but that's neither here nor there.
Now antisemitism, there's something I can't understand in any era. Like what was Michael Jackson's problem?

a lot of his racism stuff flew over peoples heads because most people were secondaries (me included if we're being honest)

so people ended up being really surprised when just how much of his stuff is referenced despite his attitudes.
i always felt his work showed more of a hate for the lower class than minorities though.

also to note, all audiobooks of public domain properties are free, including his

>I don't know that it had any connotations yet
>Once it became negative, it stopped referring to black people
come on man

Interesting. I think we can all get behind a hate for the lower class, anyway. If only we could get society focused more there, we could cure this racism thing in a trifle.
I do think (and this is getting more on track with the thread) it's best to have -characters- explore concepts in your work, rather than it coming off as the author saying anything, no matter how confident you are in that thing. You read The Time Machine and it's like.. this guy is a product of his time, he's observing the two races he finds through the lens of the class struggle, and partway through he changes his mind and flips which one he thinks descends from the working class. It's all up in the air, in the end, with none of it confirmed as anything beyond his fancy.
How can a negative term apply to something neutral? Just saying, listen to Redd Foxx and every other standup comedian right through to the end of the 90s. There's no niggers in africa, but the ones in america come in every color of the skin rainbow.

First off I'm curious, what do you use to draw? Usually is way harder using a mouse tho if you use a tablet here's some advise, first off, layers are your friends, use them so you can work in aspects like base/sketch /Lineart separately, that way any errors will stay in their layer making them easier to deal with. Second use references, look at pictures of whatever you want to draw to get an idea of its structure. Finally And most importantly :practice practice practice, stuff like construction lines, sketches, studies, slowly but sure your art will start to look better. I rushed a little redraw of your character as an example, hope it helps

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What are the pros and cons of making your own website against using a site such as Tapas?

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>What was something unexpected that helped you write/draw (or just made things easier)?
Using two lines to divide scenes is gud
>ghadar.smackjeeves.com/
Page 19 is on DEV!

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Artist here, I've been using a tablet the entire time and layers, I just got lazy and forgot to turn off the lower layers when I saved it as a png. Thanks for the advice about references, though. Even when I try to copy something, I somehow always fuck up the facial structure and turn it into a goopy mess. Thanks for the redraw, I'm going to try to copy it to get a better idea.
I've seen people suggest to think in 3D before, but I don't really know what that means.

Also, Hey Guys! How's Your Webcomic is about to reach the 600 threads! we should make a collab with all our characters!

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own website - you have to design your own website, harder exposure. i don't really know this but a well design website could make a difference for readers
tapas/webtoons - easier exposure, but you basially have to compete with everyone else, their formate sucks for anyone who wants to update page to page

No offence dude but if you're gonna do redlines and redraws, you should at least know how to execute the techniques properly yourself.

looks good to me, why don't you redline it?

it's hard to teach 3D thinking, you have to just practice lots of angles and use tons of references. The examples that user gave you are great.

Could it be posible to start on a host and later down the road move to your own website?
Is it fine if a comic is intentionally in B&W?

Sounds like a fun idea!

people aren't going to care on webtoons or tapas unless if you're a korean gay romance

Actually my immediate thought is "this isn't the best art, but the grasp of the fundamentals is actually excellent, and this will help this other user improve"

>a korean gay romance
Do... Do I even want to know?

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Yeah there's nothing wrong with that.

If you're fortunate enough not to know, that's amazing

whats to really find out

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God damn it I just want to make an adventure story. I guess Smackjeeves might be a better option...

Yes it would
It would be even better if you and everyone else stopped thinking about hosting sites as having anything to do with the content of what's hosted there.

It's aight, I know I'm not particularly good yet but just wanted to help a noobier user out

You're both gonna make it.

wanna be my artist for my comic[/spoiler

None! Like that one user said, I can add some pieces of me in my characters, but never myself. And idealized selves are boring, that would work better if it is a worse yourself.

I wanna say Rau is a perfect daughter but thats not true either, id find her kinda boring irl. Guess Azu might be it a bit more.

Im in!

whats the most amount of panels you should put on a page? whats a good average?

i always limit myself to 9 panelsand base everything off of the 9 panel page. if theres a splash panel i always have it take 1/3 or 2/3 of the page; either one panel takes up the space of 3 panels or 6 panels

t. write scripts

It's a very poor use of the fundamentals, because it draws out the construction but then proceeds to not use it. You don't draw your the sphere for the skull just for show, you use it as a basis for the forms of the face and the perspective. You need to consider how the form of each facial feature works as a 3D object, the nose looks like its in profile when the face is facing in 3/4ths and downwards. Stuff like hair also needs to be considered, hair doesn't just exist as a 2d cut out placed on top of the head, its a 3d surface that wraps around it.

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nevertheless, it was a good start. You carve a statue chip by chip, yknow?

here's a tip
use real life reference and study from real life
you're never gonna make it if you don't build those analytical skills of being able to look at real objects and people and thinking of them as blueprints

watch jim lee drawing on youtube

youtube.com/watch?v=eekVKw07Py0

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This. Though it's pretty hard to "just do" that. There are steps in between where you figure out how to fill objects in with simpler shapes and get them arranged and in perspective. Like Marge's art teacher, the one voiced by Jon Lovitz.

A good start, but bad teaching.

the tutorials are a good start but you'll never build those skills if you only focus on them

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Oh this is amazing, I've never seen anything like this. Is there a link to more of these?

The only similarity between me and my main characters are some of their flaws desu. It's makes them feel more real and less like a self-insert.

Also making your main character your ideal partner feels kinda pathetic

Should I do a comic about SJWs killing Trump?

if your art sucks don't

I was planning on a Steven Universe style.

if mean if you could pull it off

The main character is my real self, and his "best friend" is the ideal

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An somewhat even worse version of myself.

Neither! Guess I'm off to a pretty okay start.

>Start listening to edgy early 2000's Midwest emo music
>Suddenly wanna change the colorful color palette of my comic to black, white, and brown
Oh no

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I have a feeling that most of the anons here are really young and it kinda creeps me out.

Quite the opposite, neighborino. It bothers me that you get creeped out by youth, though. Or creeped out at all.

Why? I would think it is a good thing that people are young and just starting out, so they have a lot of time ahead of them.

If anything, I'm more surprised by how many people here are over 30. I'm one of them.

Finished this page

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zoomers are gross and stupid

My ideal significant other. However, after writing the script one of the villains became the more interesting character based on personality.

Oh, well yeah. But the fact that you even used that term kinda makes you one of them. It's not about age, it's being modern.

Hehehehe, your comedy's improving too. Though I feel like that wasn't quite double faceslap-worthy.

Let's see if that's true
strawpoll.me/17998625
How old is everyone?

Yeah maybe. I just thought it was only fitting since both of there theories were wrong.

Hey, 20 ain't that old gramps

Reposting my latest page!
tapas.io/episode/1272284

I already sketched the next one after this, dont wanna hurry myself because that will end in disaster but I just might vomit 3 pages this same week.

>What does your ideal comic host/website look like?
Like Tapas, but you can fucking change the order of chapters posted.

>Alt Q: What was something unexpected that helped you write/draw (or just made things easier)?
Random appreciation or fanart I got. Really motivating stuff. Thats why when im able I try to make fanart for the series Im enjoying.

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Whats the best way to color? Bucket tool leaves something to desire for me

It’s a shit art style, though.

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Bucket tool is only good for flats, anything else you want to use some kind of brush. It kind of depends on your software and your style on which tools would work better..
A nice trick is to use either the magic wand or selection tool to select specific areas so you don't have to worry about going past the linework.

What are you working on right now?

I really don't know how to word this properly so I'll just ask it. Is it okay to not be doing this as anything more than a side hobby? The corporate life has been good to me and I have no intentions of leaving my comfy office job. I have more than enough time to focus on my art and with that a comic, but I guess is that going to hold me back at all? Does anyone else just do this as a fun side thing and not as a professional artist or someone working to be a professional artist? Is not being a real artist going to bite me in the ass one day or do most people not care?

As long as you don't intend to become wealthy off of it, that is enough. To really become big,you also need to work your social presence, which can be time-consuming. And even then it might not work.

>Does anyone else just do this as a fun side thing and not as a professional artist or someone working to be a professional artist?
only one webcomic artist is like that. His name is Ever E. Body.
the only victim is your sleep schedule and free time.

Oh I certainly have no plans for that. I just kinda wanted to share my art, ya know? I think it might even be detrimental to my career if the comic ends up getting too big, so I'd probably just have social media there in case anyone who reads the comic wants to interact with me but otherwise it would just be like a hey here's my comic, read it if you want to type of thing.

>only one webcomic artist is like that. His name is Ever E. Body.
Not me and my collaborator. Comics is pretty much all we do. I wouldn't recommend it at all. But it's something we're happy to be able to say.

>I think it might even be detrimental to my career if the comic ends up getting too big
Use a pseudonym. For the love of God, don't allow an employer to tie it back to you if it's anything other than ... really, anything. Maybe if you did a comic about football players to show how bro you are you could get away with it. Might seem gay, though.

or just trust your employer doesn't use internet other than social media, and just stay off of that.. Ideally both. Or just use a pseudonym at work.

subtle

It's just a comfy camping focused series (basically just illustrated forest adventures) but I did plan on using a pseudonym anyway. Everything is gay when you think about it, user.

>only one webcomic artist is like that. His name is Ever E. Body.
Maybe I need to find more office artists. All of the art friends I've made over the years are the real deal and it's so badass and I just could never do that. It just feels like every friend I've made through art has been an honest to goodness artiste and I'm just me, someone who likes to draw.

The professionals are just guys like us deep inside, donmai.

>is your main characters your ideal self, or your ideal significant other?
Neither. This is bad character writing 101.

Don't tell me you're one of those creeps that make your MC or his love interest a self-insert, are you?

Is it good to have a self-insert where the only similarity you share with him is your name?

I have a self-insert which also has my first name with it, but while our interests are the same, our personalities are different. The character is a more gloomy version of I am, and isn't even a gary stu.

In fact, he is commonly disliked among the people, only having 3 friends who are also aware whenever he does some autistic shit or says some retarded things

I think Pen Ward did that when he originally named Finn Pen. The princess was originally going to be named after his mom, too. It was just names he knew.
Swampy Marsh named (and based the appearance of) one character on his son, but the only other thing he had in common was 'is a son' but then the kid got to voice act later. For some reason, despite being a big ol california hippie, his kid is english, so they waited til it was time to voice some english people who weren't already voiced by Riff Raff and Metallo

Workin on the concept for the main villain of Murky Deeds

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>That bottom image

Hmm, yes.

Gooooood stuff all around.

So it seems like between the ages of 20 and 40 are most prominent on here, pretty interesting! I thought only a handful were in their early twenties

If you are over 18 and still drawing comics u need to reevaluate ur life

The fan art event in the discord is my primary focus this week, but I am slowly but surely chipping away at the next two pages.

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the discord gets all the good events...

I have confidence this thread can provide. There's an event in the works now, isn't there?

Why would you name a character after yourself?

Not trying to be condescending, I'm genuinely curious.

A couple of the comic presets on Clip Studio set all layers to monochrome by default. If I'm making a black and white comic, is it better to keep it on monochrome, or should I switch it over to gray so that I can get anti-aliasing? My assumption is that the anti-aliasing will wind up making the lines look too blurry, but I also feel like the monochrome lines look too harsh unless you cover it up with some grays.

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Its a lot easier to look at when I put values on, but I would rather keep all my figures solid white and put values on the background, and I think the small jaggy lines would make that ugly

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you're saying monochrome where you mean binary, just FYI. also what is that preset and how do you access it? I want that.

There's the A4-6 and B4-6 monochrome presets, and the Shueisha manga presets also default to monochrome. I'm calling it monochrome because the basic expression color setting you have to change refers to it as monochrome, but yeah I guess its binary

Huh. next question, what is a preset? I swear mangastudio gets more and more features every time I look at it.

Its right there when you make a new picture

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neither. he's just a narcissistic little kid.

Finished the line art for the drawing I was doing of my main characters, getting the hang of them again

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oh right! photoshop has that too but only for grayscale, rgb, and cmyk. Nice. thanks for clearing that up
In any case, it sounds to me like you want to use anti-aliasing, so if it doesn't drive you nuts, go for it. I don't see much of a difference personally because when you resize for publishing, it automatically adds anti-aliasing to aliased lines (assuming you started at a nice large size, and assuming you picked the normal settings for how to reduce the image. it is possible to keep it binary when you resize, but you'd have to go out of your way to do that)

Already looking better. That's some really decent finger and knuckle anatomy, though it looks like you've got a little work to do on thumbs.
Also keep an eye on face rotation. It looks like the side of spitcurl's head isn't rotated as much as his face is.

more impish memes

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that titty sway. I love you, 'pish.

Thanks, I've focused on hands a lot lately, thumbs are still the bane of my existence, and I'll try fixing up the face issue, it's another thing I struggle with

I'm Down! also Here's a rough sketch of the next page

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theyre actually done by my friend saintspoops, we draw each others webcomic oc's a lot

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I love your friend. I want to be friends too.

i don't blame ya, i got pretty cool friends

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Some more line work practice for the Manipod. I decided to add a bulk him up a bit more so he didnt look so spindly. Added thicker shoulders and arms. I also added actual feet and some random bolts and panel lines.
i did the gundam and calarts one for funsies.
I also tried a super simplified shading style to see what that would look like (that and the blend tool fucks with my lines. I struggle enough with lines as is.)

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Good stuff, I chuckled.

New page finished. I need to make that little redheaded barabarian girl a larger part of the story. She's really fun to draw.

tapas.io/series/Squires-for-Hire

>What does your ideal comic host/website look like? (Navigation, character pages, about/contact, functions, etc)

Honestly I really need to get around to making a logo for my page. Arrows and navigation buttons are simple but I really need some kind of banner or custom text to make it look professional. But like, designing that is also time I could be spending on the comic.

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Alright! My favorite HYWC comic updated!

I'm liking the general feel. It feels like a manga filtered through a western lens and I like that combo.

Glad you like it buddy. I was an embarrassingly huge weeb back in high school. It's a little disconcerting to hear part of that might've bled into the comic.

Shit... I just realized the three of them would make really good magical girl archetypes. This is gonna keep me up tonight.

It's been about 12 hours, how old is the other side of the world?
>strawpoll.me/17998625

Finished illustration of my main characters, not happy with the highlights but I'll figure them out eventually

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Alrighty! Final page of the current story went up today. Tomorrow is the start of a new story with a new artist.

tapas.io/episode/1408639

On another random note I'm gonna be at Silicon Valley Comic Con this august. My artist got a table and invited me to share it with her!

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Virgin vs chad

Funnily enough that kinda fits their dynamic

Neither, self inserts are cringy

i try to avoid it. when i was a teen, i wrote a tone of horrible anime inspired short stories with me as the mary sue protag. im really glad i never posted them anywhere because i was self aware enough to be disgusted with them after a while.
now i try to either A: make someone completely unlike me in every way, or B: channel all my flaws into characters.
if i want them to be a reflection of myself i dial their problems up to 11.
i really like fat low life protags with addictions or impulsive personalities that everyone hates.
i like to write shitty people and force them to be better.
mostly i do everything i can to avoid mary sues.

Don't worry, it's done in the best way possible. The art style isn't deviantart tween trying manga for the first time, and the characters don't feel like thinly veiled friends inserts and the story so far doesn't sound like some kind of rip off.

It's just the elements are common in many mangas, particularly during your pages explaining the different orders and how the system works. For some reason different factions and working to join them is pretty common, along with an academic backdrop (probably so the kids reading it can relate).

To be honest, with the artstyle and writing it almost feels like Raina Tegelmeir trying to do her own shonen series. And I mean that in the best possible way!

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This is actually really working.

Is there a market for superhero webcomics?
One will think there is but I can't think of any.

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It's best to put lines on their own layer while doing soft shading, and I get better results repeatedly eyedroppering and painting on top of areas I want to blend, rather than using the blend tool.

No because none of them will ever be as good as One Punch Man

Yes. But not memeing, you have to keep in consideration as a refference point of what audience likes, dislikes, the change of expectations and the execution of ideas. I'm not telling you to rip off OPM, but to experiment, to do what you wish was ever done but never was done. Even a simple hero story can be memorable with a brilliant execution. Godspeed, user.

If every girl isn't your waifu, why do you draw a webcomic?

So every guy is my husbando

What if every girl in my webcomic is a literal housewife tho?

So it has to be different from marvel/dc shlock?

Attaboy.

Quite the opposite actually. My main character is partly based on me in middle school. Shy, awkward, wallflower, etc.

Write what you know I guess.

I want to make a humanoid robot cat character who is bipedal and can run on all fours. And i'm kinda stuck thinking about the legs. Cat/human leg-to-body ratio is completely different and i don't know to balance out proportion for both stances without looking silly.

You're not the first to run into this issue. It's hard to describe how to make it work but I can give some tips based on what I (and actual professional artists on shows) have done
>cheat when you draw them on all fours, drawing them from the front
>give them stupendous flexibility so the longer legs can swing out in front. Keep legs bent while arms are fully extended
>pretend it wouldn't hurt your back to just run on all fours the way a human can in a suit depicting an ape or Hank McCoy or anyone else who's done that, where they mostly just kinda bullshit it and LUNGE really hard as they run, more like a frog
>rump up in the air
>just give them really long arms and a slightly hunched posture
>maybe make the feet shorter than they seem
If you wanna show us what you have so far, I can assist. Done this a lot. mostly for werewolves.

If they're a robot just give them magic limbs that can reconfigure themselves between human plantigrade and feline digitigrade.

How does it look as a title? (I got a transparent version too so I can add it to the vocer page of each chapter of the comic)

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vocer?
I do not like magic robots, personally.

Cover* had a stroke apparently

Bames Nond's having a stronk, call a Bondulance

Doesn't have to be magic. When they turn quadruped their arm limbs simply extend to match their legs. Can be done mid leap as they begin their chase.

There is a good way to do that, but it's very tricky do it well, and it's rare that I like it in execution.

anoooooother page of my oni girls comic
done during work hours no less

might be the first time i could do something productive at work besides money

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priest dude is being a asshole

Like that one famous oni-slayer hero once said (except he didnt), "no such thing as wrongdoings against oni".

Though the actual justification for his dickishness would be "redemption is hard-earned". Like, would a man forgive the father who abandoned him as a baby if he returns 20 years later willing to act as a dad now? He could, but thats still 20 years of abandonement. But what if after being rejected by his son, the father keeps trying and trying for another twenty years to connect with him? Would the son still be justified in not forgiving him? Could the father be redeemed by twenty years of attempts and sacrifice without the acceptation of his kid?

Well she ate his family so its not as clear as 20 years, but what I mean is that redemption is a thorny path and Priest wont make it any easier for Rau.

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Story wise, and as much as we all like Rau, That seems way harder to come back from than simply the hypothetical father who disappeared for 20 years. Killing, let alone eating someone's family and being delighted while you do so is a bit harder to forgive...then again, story-wise, you're sort of going the Attack on Titan route, so I guess we'll see how its all resolved.

Fair enough, but that's why I'm glad I was raised on a steady diet of fiction
so I'm capable of understanding concepts like "They cant help it, their brain is full of fuck because of the magic spell they're under"

well the Priests counter-argument for that is if Douma´s curse turns you into an oni when you suffer, how come I didnt become an oni when I saw my dead family? How come the people you started eating dont turn into onis?

As in, some people just are bound to be monsters and the curse shows their true selves. But that argument will come way later. Click if you dont mind spoilers.

Yeah, the father example its too exact, some sins dont have an exact measure of payment. I just say that because while it might LOOK like
>:( poor cute oni girl
for once as an author I think this suffering is good for her in a way.

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does not change the fact that they arent acting on their own will though

Finished this page!

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>we're not of
so I thought the akasaya was what annabeth was using to look cool while sheathing her sword-hand, but now it's at her side? so like, is that sword being extruded by the thigh right now? then swapped for a hand blade for the attack?

>What does your ideal comic host/website look like? (Navigation, character pages, about/contact, functions, etc)

something on the lines of monster high or ever after high...yea i'm lady trash. also, a decent comment section and links to discord, lore, and characters.

>Alt Q: What was something unexpected that helped you write/draw (or just made things easier)?

someone suggested i'd kinda storyboard my comics in this storybook way...it's interesting to try.

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monster high is clearly an attempt to gateway girls into good media, so if your comic is something similar, and it has good art like this, I salute you.

Annabeth puts his hand in the scabbard,And then whips his sword hand out of it. You can see him do this a few times in the previous chapter.

Does this look good with the title added?

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Yep. What is it about?

Yeah, sorta, but there is some... symbolism? Involved.

But explaining symbolism is obnoxious most of the times.

oh okay, I was confused because the grey blade is visible in panel 2 without any visible way for blade-hand to have been slipped in there.

i meant like the character profiles since i really liked how they're organized like look at this

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Ah yeah, merch-based stuff has great profiles.
Someday I want to do an action-figure-packaging style cast page for my comic, complete with those cut-out-able profile cards I wish I'd been collecting over the years.

It's a supernatural action/adventure comic set on a fictional country named Alperia. After having a close encounter with the supernatural and obtaining a mysterious book and amulet two best friends embark on a search for the other books as they are dragged into a sinister plan.

That's the non spoiler summery of the plot, I've got almost everything ready to start chapter 1, and basically the entire skeleton of the overarching plot is done, just need to add the meat to it.

What do you guys think of putting non-specific political satire on a story for kids?

That's a pretty generic and unengaging description, but I'll give it a look anyway

As long as your opinions are the correct ones, it can be fun and neat to make some cool points and not getting too specific.

Yeah sadly the non spoilery plot summary drags the premise down because of how prone to spoilers the story is, I'm hoping once I start posting it the actual comic can speak better for itself

I hear you. It's important to note that no story is so good that it can't be described in a way that sounds shitty

I'm gonna do it HYW! I'm going to make a comic! I'm writing it now!

Ostentatious. Does it have cute baby monkeys in it?
And if not, can it?

Yeah, you can make any story sound awful with the wrong description, like describing star wars as "farmer boy with a sister complex has to defeat his father"

Actually that sounds fantastic, but yeah

Absolutely

me fookin' hand hurts from all the coloring I did today

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New best friend.
awwww

Wow that's gay

>As long as your opinions are the correct ones
Change back, Yea Forums.

NEW ROMANCE PAGE AAAAAAAAAAA
tapas.io/episode/1409332
didn't sya it but beautiful colors my dude ;_;

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Sorry but it's not possible to make a good story tell a lie. the truth comes out. truth is beauty and vice versa after all
Just look at Boondocks and how it kept shooting its intended messages in the foot and inadvertently arguing the opposite viewpoint

Getting really curious about what's going on between them.

thanks bro!

If you meant that, yeah, that's right.
It's just that 'the right opinion' is not a nice phrase to hear these days.

>Boondocks
How did it argue the opposite, though?
Wasn't it written by a literal black marxist who said that the issues with his community were mostly self-inflicted and even shat all over his own self-insert character?

It's not a phrase I hear anyone saying in these namby-pamby days. Except from the people with the wrong opinions sometimes, but even then, not in so many words.
>who said that
Yeah when he said correct things, the show perfectly illustrated them. But when he said wrong things, the opposite happened. I don't even think shitting on Huey was even intentional.

yeah something sounds fishy in the way the radio man talks... thanks for reading!!

Bump

Thanks for the tips. I'll probably post progress way later. I'm still figuring out the design. Any good tips on design?

rank these from best to worst
(1 - 9, left to right)

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Nothing I can put directly into words, but as a general rule: play with toys. Get the feel in your hands for articulation, and work that into your designs. Most of the time, you have to train yourself OUT of that kind of doll-stiffness, but robots have rigid shells, and that's part of what makes them so cool.

9 is the best, 1 is 2nd best. 4 is 3rd. the rest are pretty clownish, I'm not fond of any of them.

are you fond of 9 and 1 or are they ALL bad and those are just the least bad out of the bunch?

I'm not very fond of 1. In fact, I change my vote. 4 is the 2nd best. I'm fond of 9 and 4.
As a whole, I love ponchos. I mean love 'em. and I love boots and gloves and cool hair. Witch hats are okay, but breadth is the name of the game with those. A pleasing and interesting shape, not a lot of tapering points. Forehead kerchiefs*, cone hats, and straw hats do nothing for me.
I'd like to see 1 with 4's hood (that is a hood right?) and 8's pants. 8 has the best pants by far.. but I don't love the curly-toed boots.
*face kerchiefs are great. I'll never slam that, that's a properly-applied kerchief.

what do you think of this?

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I like the first one

this looks great

8 wins

"No!"

This is Hope, what do you think about her?

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My handwriting is borderline illegible. Should I resign myself to buying/using actual professional fonts, or is there some way to improve my handwriting with my drawing skills? Or is the third option just to try really hard to make each letter legible once and make a font from that?

Using fonts is pretty common.
Blambot.com has free fonts for comic makers.

Save up to buy a Blambot font.

Practive hand drawing each letter over and over again.

Alright and start of the next story is up!

tapas.io/episode/1408692

New artist giving that Italian flair to it!

Thanks user.

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I need to just finish up the site for this comic already. Cause it's a weird shame that the page looks way better on Yea Forums than tapas with their damn file size restrictions.

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it's okay. I'd party with that guy

If I'm honest, I can't think much of her with this art. It's not good yet.

I hit 100 subs last night, so I want to extend a big thank you to everyone that's supported the comic. I couldn't have done it without you guys!

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tapas.io/episode/1409726

Pretty good, thank you.
Only page a week and the comic started in 2006 so anyone reading wants to kill themselves!

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fuck off taeshi i've been reading your shitty comic for 10 years and it's still not over, they better fuck soon

>catgirl knows martial arts
>she never has a sexy catfight
Explain this.

>I want to make a humanoid robot cat character who is bipedal and can run on all fours
youtube.com/watch?v=4TorqhxDBLM

Other than that I agree on the telescoping legs

Telescoping legs are an inherent structural weakness
now, flip-out wrist stilts? Like Samael in Hellboy? That's where the money is.

second page, finally stuff is happening!
tapas.io/episode/1409960

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>not updating 4 times a week with most pages being stupid jokes that don't advance the plot

bump

...

there should be a thread for posting and talking about web/indie comics, not everyone knows how to draw.

...

There's always a few threads that pop up every one in a while, I don't think I've ever seen them last very long. Feel free to make a thread if you really want it.
>not everyone knows how to draw.
Of course. There are writers here, too. And it's not like you need to be great to do anything as long as you're having fun.

but i don´t want to get laughed at

Finished this page!

Just a few more pages and then we'll actually get to the plot of this chapter.

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That's what the whole damn board is for.

I like that you draw body hair and defects in a non tumblrish way.

thanks, but what do you mean by defects?

Why would someone laugh at you?

Because i fucking suck

THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU!

How do I write a romance story that feels real and actualized if I've never had a gf? What I'm writing right now feels stilted and fabricated based on all the other fictitious properties I've consumed as opposed to real life experiences.

every love story in the media is made by loveless ego maniacs bastards so i don´t see why you can´t do the same

I am so excited to draw these big lads

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Fair point. Must be autism keeping me from writing this.

Just write how you wish it would work
then include just enough of real life to add conflict.

Beloved me 2 is out

pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=74779570

This took too long to make

I'm excited to read it. what is this?

>INITIATE COMFORTING HUG PROCEDURE.
>ERROR: MINIMUM HUGGING APERTURE EXCEEDS MAXIMUM DIAMETER OF SUBJECT.

No situations where it would be relevant right now but left/right or right/left?

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anoooother page
On which my readers (?) start wondering if I have a foot fetish.

I dont.

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sometimes I feel like Dan Avidan with shit like this
can't I just think it's cool and looks good? Does it have to be a sexual fetish? what if I want cool and good-looking things in sexual things, but also on their own?
anyway I love oni claws. always have. This page is awesome and full of things I like

How goes the surrender pic?

This is an excellent page.

next on my list! so probably will be done this very weekend or before wednesday for sure.

thank you! I dont think one should worry much, if it looks fetish-y but you put it there simply because you like it and looks cool, then its okay.

Actually, if you put it there because it gives you a boner thats also okay, its your damn comic. In my case here the foot first made sense on the last panel because its an impact panel.

Your approval fills me with happiness.

Another line work practice.
This is my chapter one cast of knock off power rangers.
I made Tad a bit fatter and moved his belt up so it looks more like he is wearing a jumpsuit. (thank you user who did the artwork last week for the idea.) I also changed the shape of his helmet so it looks less like a bowl.
On the saurus squad, I added some more differences to their individual uniforms to set them apart as characters (not that any of them, aside from Rex, is particularly important). I also added some cheek lines and noses to the masks so they would look less flat.
Threw in some short bios for funsies.

Please tell me what you think.

Humans are harder than robots and purple apparently contrasts with everything. I learned this today.

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Dammit i just noticed i didnt color the cell phone.
But hey, trips.

You're making real progress.
>it's a stealth phone! they charge extra for that!

Thanks m8. Its so nice to finally be seeing some improvement.
Daily drawings has helped immensely, not to mention all the advice on here.

Being compared to chris-chan for this atrocity made me really buckle down this week. that was soul crushing.

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can't let that shit affect you. Among other things, what an uncreative comparison. low-hanging fruit.

Im just using it as fuel to improve.
Sometimes i gaze at a framed photo of Chris-Chan and nod silently to myself. Some day i will be unironically... adequate.

I'm tired of getting invited into discords just to get make fun of, I'm really REALLY trying to improve, i've been doing so much with my comic recently, i don't know how i can force myself to improve any faster, i don't want to completely change my art style, i really like how it looks right now and i honestly just prefer to constantly add small tweaks instead of constant big changes, i don't improve that fast and i know that but i'm still honestly trying to improve, my art and my attitude, but when people just group up like a lynch mob it's just too much for me to handle, i honestly prefer to do these kind of things one on one and sometimes i just break, i'm not a perfect person and even i have my limits to how much i can take.

I'm sorry that came out of no where, i've just been dealing with a lot tonight and i just kinda had to get it out of me.

>i don't want to completely change my art style
Speaking as someone who did, sometimes you have to if you want to actually improve.

If you're actually meeting new people, it's probably this kind of venting that's making them uncomfortable (stupid as it is to be bothered by that). no new people would be shitting on you the way these threads do.
anyway you're always welcome on at least two discords I know of. Sure people barely talk on those, but...

>no new people would be shitting on you the way these threads do.
Well, that's the thing it was a Yea Forums related server so... that probably explains it.

But i've seen so many styles similar to mine, but much better, i want to keep on working to get my art up there.

>I'm tired of getting invited into discords just to get make fun of
I've been in several Discords with you where people were offering legitimate crit and advice
> I'm really REALLY trying to improve, i've been doing so much with my comic recently, i don't know how i can force myself to improve any faster,
See above
>when people just group up like a lynch mob it's just too much for me to handle,
Give examples, I've only ever seen people trying to be earnestly helpful and you refusing

a person is allowed not to take all the advice they get, as long as they listen to it

Yeah, but if you're not happy with your style, ask for advice, ignore it, and then continue to be unhappy, then there's probably a problem somewhere.

yeah, but they don't take any of the advice they get, then whinge about still not improving. they're allowed to do this, but it's their own damn fault.

it happened to me twice tonight.

it doesn't matter how earnestly it is, 5-10 people doing it at once without giving me a chance to talk gives me major anxiety and kind of makes me freeze up.

I'm not unhappy with my style though, i really like my style, it's that people on here really dont like my style.

Hell i didn't even want critique tonight, it's just that people on discord were constantly giving me critiques, but they just kept on doing it and DOING IT and i didn't WANT them to DO IT ANY MORE AND JUST TO FUCKING STOP.

>Hell i didn't even want critique tonight, it's just that people on discord were constantly giving me critiques, but they just kept on doing it and DOING IT and i didn't WANT them to DO IT ANY MORE AND JUST TO FUCKING STOP.
nigga what do you expect when you share your art. constant praise? when you put your art up online you're doing it to get attention and feedback, good and bad, and if you want any chance at getting that positive attention, then you have to open yourself up to getting that negative attention too. if you can't handle the prospect of negative attention, then grow the fuck up or stop using the internet.
if you really wanted the negative attention to stop fucking try to follow the critique and take it like a mature adult.

i just like posting and sharing art man, that's it.

I'm rooting for ya

wait fuck that was meant for

Well I'm rooting for him
I don't love his style but I'd never bother asking him to change that, when what he needs is to continue working on the fundamentals, and slow down a bit to more carefully craft the small details that get glossed over in the name of speed and habit.

>tfw

Thanks man, I have been taking a little bit longer on my comics latley, reworking the process and adding more steps to it.

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I mean I was rooting for too

dewd I didn't mean to be an asshole, that ranger guy has a character that reminds me of one of mine and I misclicked. Good luck with your comic too

and you've been getting a lot more praise lately, I hope you've noticed.

Yeah, your right sorry, it's just that tonight was pretty rough.

and i think i've just been around negative parts around the internet too long because when ever i do get positive feedback i think they're either doing it in jest, pity me, or i just get oddly sentimental about it.

That was me. You have the right attitude

Wrong attitude, fuck off Coldfusion. Nobody wants to be 45 drawing loli anime like you

>claiming credit for something done while anonymous, while anonymous

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Right left, like japanese comics

dont actually do this if your comic isnt written in japanese, its raw cringe to see english speakers doing it

Haven't drawn a comic in a while but i'm on the writing phase of that comic about giant robots. Also i'm learning myself colors.

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Updated!

A Story Of Fire
tapas.io/episode/1410437
pretty please read

Pic related is fanart made by Luuvy, bless her soul and talent.

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Looks pretty damn amazing. I need to learn how to color skin like that.

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Illustrated Milo Murphy's Law fix fic Chapter 2 will be published next week.

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F O O T F E T I S H

>Wake up in the morning
>lets make a comic thread is dead
Dammit, I was hoping it would live long enough for OP to return.

NO

a webcomic of my own creation, you can read it on tapas if you want but Tapas is kind of ass so i'll be uploading all the pages to imgur soon for convenience sake

tapas.io/episode/1354135

If only it was a hug

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Thank you ardi. I'm still working on colors tho. I'd like to be able to get to a high level on that field

Hey, HYW.
I need help in making a comic, is it ok if I dump some draft pages here and ask for some assistance on dialogue, narrative flow, character angles and shots , etc.?

That's what these threads are for. Guess it'll also keep them from dying as quickly as they do nowadays.

what about linking to an album on imgur?

I can either, it's up to you guys.
I really need the help, I am no way a professional at this.
I am also not going to be "using" it for monetary gain or anything, it's more of a /coc/-comics homage type thing.

Here:
imgur.com/a/Of57Ej8
Don't pull any punches.

New Oni x Fox update!

Tapas: tapas.io/episode/1410544
Webtoons: webtoons.com/en/challenge/oni-x-fox/chapter-26-night-of-suspicion-3-4/viewer?title_no=36239&episode_no=194

Looks good! Definitely interested in seeing your comic about giant robots as well!

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I'm this guy, and I've drawn more using the advice people gave me here and by trying to replicate what I saw. Please critique me more. I included the lines I used this time.

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I dig the story so far, this reminds me a lot of stories my dad would tell about his childhood to me

Any fixes or tips you can give?

Page 19 is online!
>ghadar.smackjeeves.com/comics/2794133/page-19-what-a-show/

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I disagree
Coool! Imgur isn't much better than tapas, I'd love if you got a real host, but either way I'll read this.

The art is super expressive. You really know what you're doing. Even the text looks nice.
I'm pretty confused about basically everything. Why would people being the same age matter for one telling the other to grow up? That doesn't mean "get chronologically older"
That comic he's reading at the beginning was so great

Big improvement. One tricky thing you'll want to master is keeping jawlines at the same angle even as the head turns. It looks like you wrongly "corrected" your top-left face after constructing the jaw at the correct angle, so the chin's V would be symmetrical. But a face isn't symmetrical when it's turned to the side.

Thanks. I'm trying to avoid the faces being weird and wrongly proportioned, but I can never quite get it. The full body one in particular has a bad face, I can tell.

It's okay, you're still learning to draw. You're going to have a bunch of different forces of aesthetics and instruction clashing until it comes together, but it will.

Oh, I forgot to even tell you what the story is about.
Trine was supposed to be a /coc/ thing, (majority didn't like it except for WriterAnon), about three seemingly separate characters who come together in a narrative.

It is an homage to superhero comics but to be more specific, /coc/ in general.
The three main characters are:

Jonathan Dominic "JD" Easton: also known as his superhero name as Ghost, he is the boy scout hero, he is childhood friends with Wells and an all around good guy willing to help those in need.
Despite not possessing any superhero abilities, Wells creates a device that allows him to travel through a suspended dimension and re-appear in ours with his physics altered.
His moniker is taken from the trail he leaves when traveling through the separate dimension, a traveling ghost.

Hugh "Wells" Greene: an antisocial boy genius whose only known friend is JD. He represents the "heroes" that are more inward in nature in their goals, as he strives to only fulfill his desires rather than save people. He leaves the town him and JD met only to come back to ask his only friend if they want to become superheroes, with him as his acting villain.
The villain name he adopts is Archenemy.

Andy "Theta" Splinter: a hardened and skilled vigilante, bent on uncovering the secrets of the death of her father. She represents the anti-hero, edge and all, being driven with her own brand of justice and redemption as she sees fit. She travels the world in search of clues of her father's past life after being adopted and trained to be a ruthless child soldier. She comes across JD and Wells when she arrives in their city, New Lamenton, in her warpath.
In the seedy underbelly of crime, she is known as Theta.

======
The story has been written and is being written for a quite a while, between me and WriterAnon, as we compile and brainstorm how to approach Trine as a whole.
Here's a bullet summary or gist:

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Wow, I didn't pick up on any of that from reading it. Really interested in seeing where this goes. A lot of comics have trouble with too much exposition, but this one could use a little. Or you can just let things unfold and let us figure it out as we go.

-Most of the story is set on the fictional city of New Lamenton located in the country of Canada, it is known to be the city where crime is scarce, a title that New Lamentonians wear with pride, but is also known to be one of the most boring cities to come with near-zero tourist attractions.

=JD=
-JD meets Wells when they were kids and befriends one another
-Wells leaves after a fatal accident involving one his parents, prompting one of his parents to relocate away from New Lamenton
-JD grows up and is now in high school, having an all-around good life.
-Out of the blue, his friend re-appears in JD's life with a single question "How would you want to be a superhero?" (Keep in mind that in this universe, superheroes DO exist, and their exploits are often documented and heavily exaggerated in the form of superhero comics)
-JD, being a fan of superheroes and elated of his friend's resurgence, immediately agrees.
-together they play a cat and mouse superhero showings for the city of New Lamenton which brings new life to the city. (a la Megamind)

There is more to this story but I'll cut it off from here.

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I have some ideas for stories I would love to write for marvel or dc someday, but I don't think I'll ever get hired by them. Would I get into trouble if I wrote my own stories with similar characters to there heroes? Like not direct copies of them, but with enough referances so that people would get the similarities to who I am paying tribute to.

=Wells=
-having to basically raise himself from his quarreling parents, Wells always believed that the one person that can help you the most is yourself.
-that is when he meets JD, who vehemently befriends him, much to his initial annoyance.
-Him and JD continue to be friends until a tragic accident leads him to be separated with his only friend.
-Relocated to a new city, Wells undergoes a complete shutdown from social interaction, choosing to never to leave outside with only his inventions to keep him busy
-he then recovers a mysterious meteorite shard and starts to investigate its properties.
-the shard possesses a great deal of energy but its most promising feature is its ability to bring someone into a suspended dimension where they have free control of their own physics, which then can be translated upon re-entry into the real world. (Entering the Continuity (the suspended dimension), allows its user to use it as a bridge to fold space to such a minute distance that it is in all intents and purposes, instant travel, and along with that able to manipulate his own energy and motion, being able to deliver a punch with a theoretical infinite mass upon re-entry.)
-in his attempt to harness such power, the most of the shard shatters, splintering off and scarring Wells from the explosion
-Recovering from his ordeal, he gathered while the shrapnel embedded within him are inert, the complete shard still holds power. But along with that discovery, the initial shock of the energy blast was enough to corrupt his own cells, spelling his own death in a period of time.
-Wells, first angered by his Icarus-like fall, soon realizes that he must at least make good of what time he has left and ventures off to rekindle old ties.

There is more to this story but I'll cut it off from here.

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=Andy=
-most of her "proposed" origin is pic and is wholly separate from the other two, but she is still integral part of the narrative of three.
-Theta, having already made a name of herself in the criminal world, discovers a lead that directly leads to New Lamenton.
-She then makes her way there and adopts to civil life while investigating her lead
-Her probing starts to unravel a major conspiracy about the city itself: being a large hub of criminal organizations and the reason why the city is mostly devoid of crime, the officials make deals with the kingpins to never show themselves out to the public in exchange for silence and protection.
-She also comes across a name, Archenemy, tied to the black market dealings.
-Among many of the shows of Archenemy and Ghost duking it out, she then interferes in hopes of capturing her prey for interrogation.
-she fails in doing so, leaving JD confused as to why random cape is attacking a clearly fake show, (JD's first flag to wondering what's wrong with his beloved city and as the story progresses, JD is gradually being broken down revelation after revelation.)

There is more to this story but I'll cut it off from here.

So, HYW.
What do you think?

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I have an idea for a webcomic and I'm looking for some feedback.

So, to start out, this entire idea is based on the webcomic having sort of a meta twist to it. It starts as a typical slice-of-life, motivational, humor webcomic. Sort of like what that owlturd comics guy does. Basically little substance with some light humor.

At some point it shifts into a narrative story about the main character in those comics. The stand in character that tells the jokes turns out to be a sort of television presenter and there's a production crew behind the comics. At this point it would split into two comics: the joke comic, and the narrative comic that follows the presenter's life and downward spiral into depression.

It's kind of hard to explain.

Woodies 097: The Impostors Part 6
tapas.io/series/Woodies

I just finally got settled after a big life shake up so it feels good to get back into the groove of making episodes. Unexpected life shit always makes for some great inspiration for future stories

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The big 2 do that all the damn time. Squadron Supreme anyone? Nothing is stopping you from writing Brooding Avenger and Sunnyman.

Re-posting some pages, and then the newest page.

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And the new page.

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You put a lot of thought into this.

still lookin good.

almost free irl
have a teaser for a new NS character

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Another quick sketch of Marie I just did.
Damn her design changed a lot from the gloryhol days!
Do you think guys this look and feel could carry my comic?

aaaaaaah thanks!! I'm taking my sweet time on this project because I want it to be FAR more polished than what I did before with Gloryhol and Crimson, I want to grow as an artist so my comic looks the best as I can present it

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I think the changes to your art have been most welcome.

thank you! Yeah I remember the complaints from when I first started posting here.
Yea Forums is the very reason I wanted to evolve as an artist. You guys helped me a lot, really.

I want her to beat the shit out of me. Not even sexually.

Would you be okay if it was sexually though?

Got a little bit further with rendering a pic for a main character type family tree, I don't plan on making the comic pages so rendered since I don't have the skills to do it fast enough, but I plan to do each main family tree in a more rendered fashion as well as the cover art and such.

I'll finally have free time at the end of the month as summer vacation is soon and my current teachers are pretty relaxed when it comes to exams

Hopefully I can get into the discord once I actually have pages to post T^T

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Bitchin. Nice horn placement, too. I've been working on horn placement for a monstergirl porn game project for a while, and that's one configuration we didn't think of, but should have.

well duh

Just making sure.

Monster girl porn game? Im intrigued, do you have any platforms where that you post about it?

littleblackbestiary.com/ plz no ban, not advertising
none of the art on this particular project is mine, but I've done some designs which were passed on to other artists (such as that tentacle-haired girl) and I'm involved in the brainstorming parts. and There's other stuff as part of upcoming episodes that I'm involved in.

Oh also I came up with the name. and I'm going to contribute to the writing at some point.

DETECTIVE PIKACHU WAS SO BAD HOLY SHIT.

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user
I haven't loved everything you've posted, the way you've posted, your infrequency in posting
but tonight you've made me happy. I know it's base and petty, but I needed SOMEONE to speak negatively of that ugly monstrosity. I know it's going to be huge regardless, and it's going to shape the face of at least four kinds of media that I love in a way that warps them in ways I hate, but just one dissenting opinion... even though it's off-topic and nobody asked for it... has made my fucking night.

The writing is quips, exposition and bad or awkward acting 101. The delivery, the CGI, everything. There could have been an okay or decent movie in there but no, just throw out anything with Pokemon in it, add Ryan Reynolds and watch the ticket revenue go up. Literally Soulless: The Fucking Movie.

God damn it take it to Yea Forums you two.

I expected a bomb the moment they literally hired the artist who does intentionally disturbingly ugly realistic art of cartoon designs
In any case it's not really on topic for this thread, but thank you for grumping with me.

I need more of this muscle queen

I like the film but mostly just because it was nice to see Pokemon integrated into people's daily lives. That was the main charm for me, the rest of the film was extremely standard action movie shit.

That's probably why I'm not into it. They're meant for cockfighting and as pets. Sure you can have the odd one acting as the equivalent of a helper monkey, I'm okay with Lucky helping out in Pokémon centers or Gohriki sparring in gyms, sure there's beasts of burden situations, but.. just traipsing about in cities as if they're people? Fuck that and every franchise spinoff that depicts that. Get back in yer balls. I mean there's wild ones, yeah. Pests who attack you on sight.

Finished this page!

Oh wait, this doesn't seem like the usual west tree comic!

Well, that's because it's a side project i'm doing based off of a discord RP! and i totally hate that discord so i'm not gonna be posting in that discord anymore and I'll just post it here! Basically SD is just walkin' around doing some deep thinking and a rocket full of ladies comes down and hijinks happen.

When will this get release? well i'll be releasing it in chapters on a different site.

Also if there are any typos that's because i copy and pasted these from chatlogs.

I also secretly hardcore ship SD and Nina.

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I learn about so many new hats from this comic.

Working on a character design, but kinda struggling. I'm designing an undead pirate captain, trying to get something between a pirate captain and a biker gang leader. Not really sure on the colors either.

Any advice would be great. I think I'm leaning towards the red. Thought about giving him a short vest instead of a jacket, but I think the jacket helps with the regalness of a captain.

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I remember this guy. He's so glamrock I can't not love him.
As someone with that approximate hairstyle, I gotta say, keep the hat or else bump up the top of the hair so it's less flat. I also agree the red coat pops nicely, I'd say definitely go for the bottom right. Nothing wrong with splitting the bottom of the coat into two tails though, if that makes it easier to draw in different poses.
That might also be a bit TOO MUCH arm length. Though it is amusing seeing his hands in pockets that are a foot away from his hips.

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Yeah, haha, I was picturing him as like a pirate biker Jack Skellington, really tall and lanky.

Big influences are Ace from Powerpuff Girls (or I guess the Gangreen Gang in general) and LeChuck from Monkey Island, really trying to set him apart from the latter , though, which is why I tried the Kraken curse ideas.

I think the hat really helps with his image, but I might mess around with it a bit.

You certainly can't go wrong with a much wider brim, be it floppy or regally sticking way up in front

Laserwing WIP!

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I love this design. I really love the sunglasses + hat one. The little crocodile instead of a parrot is inspired, as well as the barnacle rhinestones.
His biker/rocker look is solid, but his pirate side needs a little help to stand out more.
I hate to say peg leg/hook/eye patch, because those are pretty derivative and would likely work against your character design. Perhaps a cutlass or a flintlock is more his speed, a little something to hang off his belt.
I might also suggest a Bicorne hat.
Perhaps he can kinda switch between biker and pirate personas as necessary. Give him a bit of a King K. Rool vibe.
Its a solid design as is. The biker, rocker, and zombie all shine through. Its just the pirate part that needs a little something something.

i saw 'switch' 'cutlass' and 'biker'
now I need him to have a cutlass switchblade
this comic is cartoony enough to sell that

>cutlass switchblade

GENIUS. Throw in a comb on the blade. take it even further beyond.

Damn, thanks guys, that's a perfect idea.

Yeah, that's the tough part is balancing them. That top left one was my first draft, where I thought he wasn't biker-y enough, then started leaning too hard in the opposite direction. I'll keep experimenting, but the switchblade cutlass is genius, like the other user said, love it.

This is why I hang around here. I don't care if nobody ever knows who I was, I helped. A thing is better now because I said a thing.

How'd I do?

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>tfw art is dogshit
>tfw daydream about an artist gf to bring your great ideas to life
>tfw realize that's a great idea for a comic, but then realize again that my art is too dogshit to do something like that

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>ONE

hey man im dogshit too.
Just make the comic anyway. Take every piece of advice someone throws at you and try your best. Every little bit of progress will feel better than sitting there lamenting.

It's technically me and WriterAnon, the latter is found in the /coc/ threads.

>tfw realize that's a great idea for a comic, but then realize again that my art is too dogshit to do something like that
I feel like that idea could actually kinda work with shitty looking art, in an ironic way. of course it would still need amazing writing and sufficient knowledge of layout/composition to carry it.

is being ok with decent lineart/coloring a part of being a comic artist? i cant fucking stand when my lineart isnt perfect which makes shit take forever to make, but a lot of you have seem to find a good in between.

So I’m not really into one-page update formats because I feel they can ruin the flow of a moment and work better for weekly gag strips. Are 4-10 page batches every 2 weeks for long-form comics with plots a viable option? I feel it can get annoying waiting every week for 1 page and having slightly more content per update can make up for the longer wait time and give readers more to talk about.

do it do it

okay what about these?
im partial to 5

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I hope someone breaks your face on pavement and makes you swallow what’s left of your teeth you low effort cocksucker.

id have 5 but with 1s hat.

You have mental issues. Get help

i think i'm gonna go with 5 and keep the boonie hat, its really fun to draw

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I agree with you.

gl on your comics today minna-san

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>Are 4-10 page batches every 2 weeks for long-form comics with plots a viable option?
Sure. What you are describing sounds similar to how any smaller comic book was issued for a long time. Each issue was either a whole or part of an overarching plot.
If nothing else it would be worth a try

Made a new strip, my first ONE-SHOTS comic
nagasakecomics.weebly.com/one-shots-im-a-left-ball-kid.html

So? Your art is shit so you give up? If you have an idea make it! Who cares if your art is shit? Having shitty art but a good comic story is better than having nothing at all.

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Give him a beard. Bikers and pirates both have those and it'd make him look tougher.

is that umbrella from skullgirls?

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Hi guys, I finished another batch of strips and wanted to share

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I dunno, ask the guy who made her, she's not my character.

I did some more sketches, could I please get some more criticism? Should I focus just one this one character, or try more characters?

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Noses are more pronunciated.

On page 35. Ch2 is getting a nice buffer.

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Half of the comic is centered around the fact that she's in an clandestine fighting circle beating up what the organization throw at her lol

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Neither. He's a cacti collecting boomer like my dad, that's about it. Thought that would be a funny quirk to give to someone who kills people for a living.

I don't think I have any self inserts.

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2 moar pages today

Tapas: tapas.io/series/PREDATHEOSIS
Tumblr: predatheosis.tumblr.com/
Webtoons: webtoons.com/en/challenge/predatheosis/list?title_no=227480
Newgrounds: newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1434168/1
Russian translation by Prov22 : newgrounds.com/art/view/prov22/predatheosis-1-russian-translation

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Aww, but I took liking in the braid.

I think you should keep working on this character

Is it okay if I add red lines to show where you can easily fix the structuring of these?

Please, I'll accept anything useful.

Page making depends on time and resources versus the final results. Colors, inks, etc. would have to take a dip in order to meet the increased output unless you do nothing else with your life. I choose quality over quantity; others might find faster completion more fulfilling. Then there are those who live and breath comics, lucky ducks, who I bet are fun to chat with at house parties.

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English is weird

it's hard to get over too much perfectionism, but it can be done

plenty of people in here do that
2, 4, and 6 in that order.
5 has a nice poncho
I'm sad you ditched the tall boots option from the last one

ganbare

Are you going for a more anime style or a cartoon kind of style, or a mix between the two

I have some basic red lines but it would be easier if I could still make it match the style you're going for

I was expecting some kind of joke or twist ending.

brand new impish page is out noooooooooow
tapas.io/episode/1411571

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for those of you that actually read my comic, whats impish's biggest strength? i usually get told the writing but i wanna hear more opinions

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it's the writing and the cute characters who are just fun to hang out with and get to know. I feel like all kinds of cute awkward teen stuff is going to happen with crushes and beach trips and all that. Plus you draw cute hairstyles.
Proportions continue to need work, but I'm really impressed at just how far you've come with the basics, given that early on you didn't even wanna do color.

Arms are too short on those two girls in the back row. it must be a pain not being able to wipe your ass properly

I was trying for a mix leaning toward cartoon. I'm still just trying to nail down my own style.

I feel so bad for achondroplasics.

you're gonna hear a lot of people say you need to learn perfect realism before you can stylize, but they're really the same thing. You just have to get in control of your lines, so they start doing what you want. You're already coming along nicely.

I don't know why, if you were making that many pages in a two week span, you wouldn't just update every other day or something.

You know what else breaks up the flow of the moment? Having to wait two weeks for the next batch of pages. The issue people have more is if a person was only releasing one page in those two weeks. That's whats dragging the flow of the story down, but if you've got that many pages, you're in territory where you can update at least every other day which is far more convenient.

Also, it sort of depends on where you're hosting. Assuming you actually do dump a handful of pages, if you're doing it on say your own site, you can probably just link to the first page of the new dump. A lot of other comic hosts only allow you to link to either the first page of the comic itself, or the newest page. In my experience, if you dump multiple pages at once, and link to the newest page, people get annoyed that they have to backtrack to the first page of the new dump. Also if you do that people tend to not like to see the last page of the new dump because it sometimes spoils what has happened across all the new pages.

2 weeks is a while to wait, but it's doable. The Sisters works with its update format. so does Boys Land.

Here are some draw overs that could help with structuring, however its in an anime style since I can only draw in a select amount of cartoon style which probably are ones you aren't going for. Sorry about that, though hopefully these will help with placement and structure?

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Side note, I think a way to help you get better is to think of your figures in a 3d sense, it helps you visualize where certain things shpuld go when trying to place it in a 2d setting.

Think of the head as a sphere with a cut when you get to the eyeliner and the nose as a pyramid

He's actually the worst version of myself,

tapas.io/series/Ibrahim-Coyle
webtoons.com/en/challenge/ibrahim-coyle/list?title_no=270091

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I like this style user

The massive t-

Alright no, actually, the relationships between characters. That specific part of the writing. You are good at portraying the small insecurities that come with relationships at that age and in general, and the friendships end up being really cute due to that.

>my character is a symbol for the notion of self

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Well, there was an attempt. Not sure about the color scheme and shadows. Still thinking about head design, gravitating towards tv head. Does this pass as 80s japanese design?

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Thank you very much.

Make a moodboard of stuff you're drawing influence from, it'll help during the design process. If you're designing robots / mechs study from the greats.

If you want this to "pass" as anything, you're gonna need to work on primitive forms. You gotta get your 3d cubes and cylinders down if you're drawing robotics.

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how do you get back at your comic after leaving it for a while?

Not the original artist, but is there a particular reason you had her ear pop out in some of them?

>I don't know why, if you were making that many pages in a two week span, you wouldn't just update every other day or something.
>You know what else breaks up the flow of the moment? Having to wait two weeks for the next batch of pages.
>if you've got that many pages, you're in territory where you can update at least every other day which is far more convenient.
I guess it’s more a matter of taste. With batches, my idea is that each update can at least complete story beats or short scenes with no interruption. I’m not a fan of one page updates because it basically feels like taking a long pause after every few seconds of a scene. One page updates every other day also bother me for that reason, at that point it seems more convenient to just stop catching up with the comic and wait some weeks before reading it again. I’ve seen some people say they lose interest in webcomics with one-page updates for that reason, but I’ve also seen people say they prefer those kinds of updates. It was never really something I thought about until I saw a comic’s fight scene that got boring to read and felt dragged on because of that kind of format. I guess I might go with what’s more convenient for me since biweekly updates are more manageable with the type of schedule and work ethic I have.

colors are great
shadows aren't doing a lot, but we can help
the basic design is actually okay (though more modern-real-life-actual-robot than 80s japanese). Try to think about joint clearance. See how the knee could only bend a few degrees before armor hits armor? see how the hips have a 45 degree angle, so the legs couldn't swing forward and back, only out and in? It's okay, this is a great start. Way better than my early robots.

What am I looking at here user?

it's obviously the body of a catgirl robot. this must bet he user telling us earlier about the difficulties of making it run
by the way, that user, I can tell you some other things you need to do if this is going to be a fast running model: joints in the torso and rotation-based joints at (at least) the knees. think wheels.

I have two characters that represent one side of my depressed/angry personality that is burning with the desire to achieve their goals, and another that represents my introverted and self-reflective self but it's not self-motivated enough. They fuck as I self-insert as both.

thanks for the kind words on my writing, im glad its interpreted that way specifically, means im doin something right

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oh my
you're overdue for some fanart. as soon as this wave of commissions subsides, you're all getting some.

quality taste.
am I to interpret from this that the robot has big hollows behind its wrists, where the hands fold into? That'd be pretty awkward and not look very good.

an.. update! ... from me.....
tapas.io/episode/1410984

>unexpected that helped you write/draw
i ended up writing on notepad and photoshop instead of fancy or organized apps...

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Hey I just wanted to say I enjoy your comic a lot

very cute, do you have a website?

Just for positioning reference

poor confused sumbitch
I thought I'd broken mine the first time.

absodorable.
take every single day off you can, and spread them out as much as you can. That's the only way I survived.

Get professional help you samefagging retard.

sorry, its just me. @ac120rfw There is a lot of porn so when you are on there make sure it is okay to view NSFW stuff where you are at.

I tend to use them at the later half of the year when I ran out of carry over hours. I had multiple schedule change this year so its in a bit of chaos right now.

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thank you! i'm sorry the updates have been slow, but i'm making little efforts everyday and i love working on my comic.

he is disoriented...

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oh wow it looked like a totally different art style at first. It's weird, I love your art but somehow when you draw adult people, suddenly the head proportions seem weird.

do you like comix hyw?
what's the most difficult type of characters for you to write?
what are you guys writing resources and inspirations?
are you based?

>do you like comix hyw?
I like yours
>what's the most difficult type of characters for you to write?
medium-to-low intelligence that isnt just comically stupid. also hot-headed and brittle.
>what are you guys writing resources and inspirations?
star trek and gargoyles
>are you based?
Not as based as you

Lines mostly done for the next page.

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I'm so based, I can say without abasement that i'm in a basement.

Fix the dark spot in the bubble border in panel 5.

Also I'm not sure about your bubble tails (?) in panel 4. And should there be one in panel 5? But it's easy enough to understand all the same

Finished this page!

Experimented with the shading and the colored detail lines.

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Procrastinating. Drawing fanart for a friend.

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Who digs giant robots?

More practice. This is the main combiner that Tad will be filling in for in the first chapter. He will specifically fill in for the spinosaur, so the final Justisaurus will look different in the comic.
It is meant to look awkward as hell for a dinosaur themed combiner. Its only weapon is the Spinosaur sail which it wields like a ninja fan. (which is stupid as fuck).
With the Spinosaur absent, Tad has to improvise and this quickly destroys the mecha.

I did two different color schemes since I colored the individual dinos before the combiner. The all grey looks rather drab to me, so i did a colorful version more evocative of Super Sentai, but it looks a little wrong to me.
Please tell me which you prefer, or suggest a better color scheme altogether.

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>do you like comix hyw?
Usually. Lately I've been having problems finding comics that I actually want to read, but that's on me and not the comics.

>what's the most difficult type of characters for you to write?
Children. I hate kids to be quite honest, and after avoiding them like the plague I now realize I have little to no firsthand experience to use as an example for writing. I can make it work, but I don't want to be someone who makes a kid sound obviously wrong so I get frustrated.

>what are you guys writing resources and inspirations?
Some people here might hate me for this, but reddit. I like checking out the askreddit threads and the niche hobbies and interests subreddits as they've been a wealth of information and reference images I could never find by googling. People there are so quick to give out personal info or random images for internet points, it's great.
Take for example there is a subreddit for tall people and the occasion "tall people problems" aksreddit thread. I've used info from those places to help write my tall (6'8") character better with things I wouldn't have thought of, like I didn't even think about how someone who was that tall might not navigate stairs easily due to foot size and would more than likely walk down sideways to avoid tripping. Or how some tall guys instinctively lean or sit on something to have conversations with someone shorter due to not being able to hear otherwise. Or quirks like hiding things on top of fridges when pissed off. It's small stuff, but I can use it to make that character more realistic.
Pictured is one of the random images I saved. It's nothing special, but it makes me think of a fantasy or space setting and I can use that as a reference in the future.

>are you based?
Hahaha ha ha
ha
nah

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do you make everything so flat on purpose
is that your humor, just make every 3d object be 2d

Cardinal Junction update!

tapas.io/episode/1411967
webtoons.com/en/challenge/cardinal-junction/converging-paths-page-02/viewer?title_no=196040&episode_no=7
cardinaljunction.smackjeeves.com/comics/2794689/page-02/

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Definite improvements to the 3dness in panel 3, and even panel 1 has pretty decent anatomy, but panel 5 shows those total adventure time muscle arms. Might be another good time for some anatomy studies. What if you looked at some Bruce Timm art, the simple nature of that might help.

>Who digs giant robots?
I do!
I've seen sentai mecha in both types of color schemes, and they're both good.
things like joints and whatnot obviously still need work (that elbow wouldn't function with the spine in the way) but it's working in a Dexter's Lab kinda way
I think the reason the colors look so odd is the legs are too neon while the rest is more subdued.

>do you like comix hyw?
I read more manga than western nowadays. Used to read a lot of Marvel and some indies, but following cape comics was a rollercoaster of anger so I dropped it forever. The comic side of Yea Forums seems a little bit dead so I haven't caught what's currently good.
>what's the most difficult type of characters for you to write?
With the incremental representation demand, I actually fear writing minorities that aren't related to me because I don't want to misrepresent, otherwise people will make callout posts or some shit. At least I'm brown so the diversity quota for my characters is enough.
>what are you guys writing resources and inspirations?
Just consuming media and discussing it with people on twitter. I wish I could say Yea Forums but most posters in this board have no taste or understand narrative. I also watch a bunch of youtube to pick up some skills.
>are you based?
based on what?

I wish we could get everyone together and help them understand
that being a different race doesn't make you written differently
being a different CULTURE does. and there's nothing good or worth representing about cultures

I think you are on to something with the neon colors. I might subdue them a bit more.
As for the spine, functionally the sail is flexible, and detachable as it is is main weapon.
Art wise, the robots are really cartoony and bendy so it would be ignored to some extent.

Besides, Spinosaur is the one that calls in sick. Tad's Maniopod will be the left arm.

>that being a different race doesn't make you written differently
Honestly, it kinda does. Everyone has different experiences based on their race and their culture. The way people perceive other races is part of regular interaction. Minorities have to be more careful with what they say or do out of the fear of being attacked, misunderstood, or stereotyped.
>and there's nothing good or worth representing about cultures
Yes, because cultures are not interesting at all. No sir, nothing cool about learning about different beliefs, traditions, myths, history. Nothing at all. What a waste of time.

Complete shite: the post.

I just really love the style.

Alright, i'll look into that more.

>do you like comix hyw?
I do. Got a huge collection of shit i never read.
>what's the most difficult type of characters for you to write?
Love interests. Me being the lonely fuck I am, i struggle to do a decent love interest. My way of compensating right now is to write my characters how i like with zero love interest though going into them, and then arbitrarily throwing them together if i think their relationship will result in an interesting or funny dynamic.
>what are you guys writing resources and inspirations?
I play a game with myself all day at work where I just mix words together and do a lot of word play, and when something sounds cool, i will create a character around it. Nearly everything I write is some incredibly autistic pun or portmanteau.
I consume a ton of media. If i can get Tad Danger up off the ground, every arc is going to be a loving parody of my favorite series. I really look forward to chapter two since i get to create a bunch of knock off Transformers.
>are you based?
Nah, but i think, with practice and effort, i could be.

yes, that is indeed your post

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Not that user, but I can't imagine being so near-sighted, uneducated and unempathetic to not understand that race, gender, culture and sexuality do affect the personal experiences of anyone. Don't be a writer if you don't even interact with people outside of your mom.

Fantastic comeback.
But I wouldn't talk about my post since you didn't even read it in the first place.
And neither did this guy

>But I wouldn't talk about my post since you didn't even read it in the first place.
If you intented to write something with a different meaning, then you completely failed at communicating, because not one, but two guys reacted the same way.

Because that sort of thing NEVER happens to someone who's right.

I'm going to find you, and I'm going to slap you.

You know who you are

You know who this is.

Sorry user, you sound completely retarded.
Go to bed.

Shut the fuck up matt.

Okay.
Keep being afraid of writing races you don't belong to, because their race gives them unique life experiences you can never hope to understand.
I'm going to keep remembering that the people I don't associate with and don't like, who are different from me, are different because of their culture, and not their genes. and that if my parents had adopted and raised a black kid, he'd be my bro. But that if my biological brother had been raised by my enemy, or chosen to join an enemy culture, he'd most likely be someone I wanna kill.

Enjoy being mocked by those same minorities for poorly writing a character for being "blind to race" then

>This guy in this comic is the same color as me, but... he doesn't talk like me! We all talk exactly the same, everyone knows that!

So are you saying we should write everyone as a blatant stereotype?
I am sure that will go over well.

Honestly at this point I feel like educating you instead of calling you idiots, because you clearly lack the experience of interacting with minorities in a meaningful way.
>he doesn't talk like me! We all talk exactly the same, everyone knows that!
You know how it's super weird when white characters in a white setting bow like the japanese in anime? Or how it's weird when people kiss on the cheek as a greeting in america but it's very common in france and latino countries? it's the little subtleties like that what makes a race and culture shine. Compare comic Miles, written like a total Oreo, with Spiderverse Miles who has more character informed by his cultural heritage.
It's not about stereotyping, it's about understanding those nuances.

>be nonwhite
>write a mc whos white
oops lmao, guess the white man aint gonna read my shit now

>You know how it's super weird when white characters in a white setting bow like the japanese in anime?
japan
is a CULTURE
white people raised in japan (and they do exist) act that way. they do everything their peers do. but because japanese people are largely racist (like you, person who just unironically used the term oreo) yes, they do find this strange, and make those people feel weird about it.

Doesn't work that way because of the over-representation of white people in media has informed us of the cultural details. Hollywood is so full of white representation that it's hard not to understand white people even at their most cartoonish. But others are not as lucky. Can you tell me how would you write a kid from some amazon tribe?

>white people raised in japan (and they do exist) act that way.
"In a white setting". Learn to read first before replying

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>Compare comic Miles, written like a total Oreo, with Spiderverse Miles who has more character informed by his cultural heritage.
Hell, compare Bendis' Miles with his current writer. It's a world of difference.

Jesus christ, user. Stop chugging the flavor-ade so hard. The pendulum's gonna swing back the other way, you know. How would YOU write an amazon kid? When is that going to come up? Primitives are pretty simple to write anyway.
What the fuck is a white setting? Those japanese people whose parents and family are white and just happen to live in Japan probably think their setting is white enough. It's not as if Japanese are even native to that archipelago.

impressive post, someone will actually fall for this bait

>Played contact sports as a kid.
>Fucked up my hands and any potential drawing ability I had.
>Write inane shit for the last 10 years that will probably never see the light of day.
>Few years ago come across a 3rd world artist.
>Not the best quality but he didn't charge an arm and a leg for a commission.
>Start telling him ideas
>He asks if he wants to partner up to write a comic recently.
>"Fuck yes this is my chance!"
>Suddenly the shit in his country starts going south.
>He doesn't have power for most of the day anymore and can sometimes go for weeks without saying a word to me.
>He also doesn't have a lot of time for concept art either due to power rationing in his country.

Why is life so cruel Yea Forumsmrades?

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try to do more of panel and less of panel 5

>How would YOU write an amazon kid? When is that going to come up?
I'd investigate of course. Because the cultural differences, their people's beliefs and customs and all of that would be useful to write them.
>Primitives are pretty simple to write anyway.
>b-b-b-but you're the racist!
kek
>What the fuck is a white setting?
Say, Jojo being full of italian characters, in Italy, bowing like the japanese. Use a little bit of logic. Put those two braincells to work.

Nothing grinds my gears like progressives who think they're helping minorities by enforcing stereotypes and cultural segregation.

Actually pretty sad you think this is bait instead of an honest discussion about how americam white culture is everywhere thanks to the media the rest of the world consumes.

We need a program to sponsor talented third-worlders to get them out of their shitholes. I follow so many mexican webcomics and I feel so bad for them constantly losing power, getting mugged, living in fear every day their cops will shoot them to protect the drug cartels... Or just living in that heat.

more of panel 3

>Italy is white
ho boy.
user, cultures can be primitive or advanced. races aren't. That's kind of what history is about. Perhaps you shouldn't wait for it to come up in a webcomic before you 'investigate'

It's not about that but you couldn't tell the difference even if I gave you a lecture from the perspective of a non-white non-american posting on a taiwanese paperdoll storytelling forum

>american white culture
It would be better if you had not been born.

Ah, so we're going there.
Get back to /pol/ buddy.

Then what is Trump/KKK/Richard Spencer trying to defend? The country? lyl

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The kicker is that I offered up to start a GoFundMe to get him out because people fund dumber shit all the time and he adamantly refused stating that he'd rather carve his own way out and would rather stay in his country and help his family out through the struggles than ditch them for comfort and his own sake. Third World artists are truly the most based lads out there.

Their cultures still have things like pride and integrity. All cultures have something good to pick and choose from, but none of them are good in total. It's a good thing the pieces are modular.

And here's the next page of the RP adaption!

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you know that those terms are completely neutral, and that post you're quoting isn't even accusatory nor condeming but just pointing out a fact, right?
but no, you gotta be triggered.

>those panties
cute!

Part of being intelligent is being triggered by lies and fiction presented as fact in an argument by smug people who have never once considered they might be wrong, and at the root of the problems they so irritatingly never shut up about.

Fun little exercise, not saying you should redraw or anything (loving these lighting effects) but maybe just draw on top of it for an exercise and don't save it, or just mentally draw on top.
see panel 5? all those straight lines? Think about what things like lampshades and bells look like from below. Or how her hat looks, that much you got right. The skirt, boots, sleeve cuffs, even her triangle titty should change when viewed from an angle.

ah, the ironing!

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alright, i'll keep that in mind for next time.

gettin that new thread ready I hope, OP

Maybe you shouldn't be triggered by stating the fact that white americans have a culture that is different to americans from other races, then, smartyboy. Smartpants. You big big big brainy pal. My dude with the goodest brain, you.

It's almost like you want that to be true.

oh my christ i know who this is

Ok then, Mind Supreme. You're saying if american white people go extinct tomorrow, there would be no cultural loss whatsoever. None. Everything would stay the exact same. You're saying that, right?

Yeah. All the white members of each of the dozen or so american cultures with any significant membership would be gone, while the nonwhite members of those cultures would remain, preserving them as-is
demographics within each would change, that's for sure. Different amounts of different ethnicities have ended up in those groups. But fundamentally, what you are inside doesn't come from your genes. Didn't you watch the Fresh Prince of Bel-air?

This one i was just having fun with character designs.
I like to play a game where i will throw words together and see if i can make a character out of it.
I discovered you can put Doctor in front of anything and create a mad scientist.
I honestly dont know if i will actually use any of these characters, but it was necessary practice. I didnt bother shading since i am experimenting with my style. I wanted to see if i could do something clean and flat like terrible canadian animation.

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but he's objectively right

I think you are confusing character itself with culture/education/history in my arguments, and that's not what I'm arguing about.

My argument is that culture/education/history affect a person, not primarily their race. It was essentially a nitpick, agreeing with the general idea that it can be difficult to write people who are very distant from you, while standing in opposition of the kind of cowardly modern ideas that led to the sentiment being expressed in the post to begin with.
It's a common sentiment, for sure. More people think race makes you who you are than don't (or at least those people are a lot louder now than they were in my day). But those people are wrong. And kind of at fault for some really big problems.

That's the best thing I've ever heard. This is pretty wacky, I wouldn't say it looks Canadian, more English.

>My argument is that culture/education/history affect a person, not primarily their race
user, in a world where true equality has been achieved, that would be the case. But race and culture are intertwined very deeply, especially in places where there is discrimination, because that makes people from the same race form their own communities to keep safe. And for that, it's harder for people outside of those communities to understand and see from their perspective. Of course it would not be the same to be, say, black in aArica than in America
Your reasoning is why we get movies like Green Book, where the black community was offended by the poor handling of the main black historical figure and his relationship with the protagonist. It's not that race makes you who you are, but race colors the perspective of others and yourself and gives you different sensibilities.
It's not that deep.

racists cling to others of their own race. forgive me for not just agreeing 'that's the way it works'
I'm not interested in the feelings or opinions of anyone offended.
Plenty of people (the people who belong to just normal regular culture, who have enough money) don't think about or care about race at all. They care about culture. They hate the ghetto thugs robbing them blind, and don't care what color those people are. they care about their clothes, mannerisms, speech.

Remember when this thread was about shilling your comics and getting critique?

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>racists cling to others of their own race.
This is such a sad ignorant perspective that puts in context your complete lack of understanding of race outside of watching PSA shorts in elementary school and clinging to it. It's peak centrist liberalism. It's the Joe Biden of opinions.
But I had enough, because you seem like a slow boy and I want to go to sleep. Good night, user. I hope you understand one day. Try to spend time with people from other races and ask them about their experiences instead of being obsessed at things you learned at 11 from kid shows that try to teach kids the basics.

someone make a new thread pls
I want to discuss art and comics not race and politics

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>centrist liberalism
once again, if you had any idea whom you were speaking to, you'd be even more baffled than the way you probably spend every day. I'm arguing against those things you're claiming I'm quoting, did you even live through the 90s?

>once again, if you had any idea whom you were speaking to, you'd be even more baffled than the way you probably spend every day.
Based on your arguments I don't think so.
And of course I'm a 90s snotty kid.
Anyway, good night this time for good. Have fun.

stfu pussy, this is part of comics

Is new thread guy not here? I can make us a classic edition using the old image

Oh wait, this already is that. I hope new thread guy is okay.

no it's not faggot. kys

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At least we know a lot of people are active this late
Come on, page 10.

Okay I'm getting a new thread ready. Just gotta wait.

let it die

So you didn't die, you just started shutting up? Thanks for that, I guess.

You seem upset

you seem homupsetual

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