What's the point of this character

Clone High creators were involved in Spider-Verse. There's also a Sean of the Dead 2.

Latest attempt at marketing a Spider-Woman while replacing original Gwen Stacy from the public memory

wow, i'm just finding out about this. what does the billboard say?

I was just talking about the character in general. I'm not sure we're at that point where there should be multiple Spider-Gwens yet.

>Spider-man is one of our most popular characters
>Therefore we need more Spider-people... even though he has literal clones and Spider-woman's not that popular despite being around for decades with a similar name, it'll work THIS time
Basically people want to capture lightning in a bottle, but forget that people like Peter

to get blacked

MUH
DICK

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Poon and waifubait.

they're not high anymore

To be the superior spider woman. Honestly fuck Jessica Drew

>superior spider woman
>Doc Ock strikes again
I'd fucking read it

Grrrl power and waifufaggotry

>I'm five and think girls are icky

>"Grrrl power"
>attached her to another male Spider-Man and treat her like an accessory to him
Fantastic

It wasn’t though gwen was 616 peters first love. Peter to this gwen is nothing but an obstacle to over come

>first good spider woman
You niggas didn’t read spider girl I take it

Except that this time it worked.

>take a pretty straightforward concept (switch Peter and Gwen around)
>has very little plot going on in her own universe and in others
>interacts very little with 616 Peter save for a few pages
>Bendis decides the Black Peter conversion needs to be complete so he does a whole arc with Miles and have Gwen be his love interest
I want to like her as a character, but I don't feel engaged whenever I tried to read where she is the focus. Her suit is nicely designed though.

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>it worked
>she’s on her third volume in three years and sales keep going down

She just pisses off the old fans and isn’t interesting enough to bring in new ones

Depends on how you define "worked", if you take it to mean "mainstream audiences like her costume", then yes indeed she worked, if you however define it as "a well-written interesting character concept that brings something new to the table", then hard no.

porn

Characters whose only purpose is to be multiverse people for crossovers are the worst. They don't even use her in interesting ways in those crossovers, i.e. interacting with the other Peters, it's just a random girl with Gwen's name and Peter's powers.

I've never heard anyone praise spider-gwen for her character

To be fair the clones left a bad taste in everyone's mouth due to their awful introductions and Spider-Woman has always been fucking laaaaaaame.
Gwen was alright in her intro issue but she never really should have went farther than that.
She did have some potential for interesting drama with Peter since he was essentially her uncle Ben in her world but instead they tied her more to Miles which made absolutely no sense and didn't play up the Peter angle at all.

Why didn't Peter become her Venom instead of the Lizard?

Because that sounds like a good idea.

Selling merchandise

Her outfit just weirds me out, I feel like the hoodie over the usual mask would just get in the way and get stuck at inconvenient moments...

this would have been extremely based

probably would have caught on more if spider woman's backstory was less convuluted cringe

Include some /ss/ and I'm sold.

Like all intellectual property held by a corporation, her point is to be as appealing as possible to the largest possible number of people who will buy goods and services in which she appears. I hope that clears it up for you, user.

Nobody reads cape comics anymore. The casuals go for manga and hardcores went indie.

So you’re an idiot

Fpbp

her costume at first, now its to be the love intrest. Nothing changed aboit womens role except the hero is black this time. Progress!

unironically this
lord and miller are kinda bad at writing female leads. she had wyldstyle syndrome

You are talking about Peni right?

Fap material and triggering EVS

spbp

To push race mixing.

Plus all that hair to manage. Would take time to get it all under the mask and it's probably all sweaty whenever she takes it off.

this

>What if Gwen was Spider-Man and Peter was the one that died?
Just another what if scenario that comics love doing.

I think you bring up a great point that Spider-Gwen's comics have terrible focus, considering that they did Green Goblin terribly and rushed. I also think that the Jason Latour and Robbi Rodriguez are a bunch of weebs. They have a joke villain, rhino is just a thug (no connection to rhinos), the Punisher (only villain I really like), and the rest is Daredevil's ninjas. You'd think a super hero in a punk band would deal with a villain in roller skates or something. Instead it's Spider-Gwen getting toyed around by a bunch of ninjas. Wolverine's even a fucking samurai, doesn't seem to be a mutant he's just cursed with immortality like it's a samurai movie.

would be cool if not for the hair and the nigger

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Nothing but be a thing for useless black kid that stole a spider-man title

pleasuring 38 year old cocks

The Miles and Gwen romance feels kind of gross to me and I hope they drop it. Like I don't care about the interracial aspect but it feels wrong for them to bring Peter's first girlfriend back from the dead just to hand her over to his teenage minority counterpart. It feels kind of cucky.

Both woke trash stories are dying as they deserve, no one wants shit spider man that gets everything cause he's black, that thing is a clone that should be put down. Gwen is just pointless.

Characters having multiple love interests is nothing new. Plus, they work well together.

Spidergwen isn't gwen

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Patrician opinion.

That sounds like it'd be neat.

She's not the same Gwen, though.

That is the point, interracial cucking, that's why its pushed. Its okay to hate everything about it you know. People letting a black dude take over Spiderman led to this. He doesn't belong, never has or will, an Gwen is just there for neat character design and pissing off fans.

Literally the only reason they put them together is to defile another blonde white woman. Purity is their enemy.

Plank of plothook and black people are heroes too would work well together, because there is nothing of substance.

What were the other pictures in her phone?

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Yeah her nudes

Peter knocking her up.

Yeah but those characters normally aren’t just side characters from another universe. Miles is already a convoluted character bringing nothing to the franchise and you think saddening him down with a pointless connection to a dead 40 year old character makes him better? Or do you just like the blacked aspect and the arguements you “win”?

How am I an idiot, it’s peter that caused her to recede from the world getting over his memory and blaming him for his faults, is her logical conclusion read her arc with Harry she states it clearly. It’s like her OMD is all that is canon

>user sees cute innocent teenage romance
>instantly connects it to some some underground insidious plot to end white people
Every time

Next you're going to tell me they should have fixed her tooth gap.

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>Characters having multiple love interests is nothing new
I guess but I don't see Lois Lane fucking Calvin Ellis or Iris dating an alternate dimension black Wally (Which would be weird for different reasons but still)
>they work well together.
Eh. The comic versions of the characters are sort of awful in my experience so I wouldn't say that.
Gwenpool isn't Gwen.
Spider-Gwen is Gwen from a slightly different timeline.
You are going a bit far there. They do push for diversity for diversity's sake way too often but I think in this case they are just trying to cash in on the popularity of two Spider characters by having them hook up.

>Spider-Gwen is Gwen from a slightly different timeline

Not really, they share nothing at all except for the names.

>I guess but I don't see Lois Lane fucking Calvin Ellis or Iris dating an alternate dimension black Wally
Yeah, but she has her own main character spot now. She gets title character harem privileges like the guys now.

Getting black fans attracted to white women.

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I think you're over thinking this too much. just think this Gwen has a romance not with Peter. Then separate the two Gwens in your head.

What if the Gwen from Miles Morales' universe is actually Gwen Pool.

>have a female spider people love
>shit all over her for years

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>its not even about race
>but it's about race
Could have just said teenage counterpart but your racism shines through

It’s stupid to separate it though, if the reason this gwen exists is because her only being relevant as a love interest is sexist then why bother immediatly casting her as a love interest?

It would still be weird and gross if it was a white kid but it is just kind of funny to me that it fits the cuckholding stereotype to a T.

To make me suffer.
>they ruin her hair
>they ruin my self insert
The creators are monsters.

Welcome to Cape comics. Everyone sleeps with everybody else

That’s literally the point of it user, all of bendises love interest for him were white. Bendis fetishizes black people to an unhealthy extent, why do you think he wrote such a god awful reason for Miles to have his mothers last name rather than just make his father hispanic and his mother black?

>why do you think he wrote such a god awful reason for Miles to have his mothers last name rather than just make his father hispanic and his mother black?
I never thought about that before but that is pretty fucking stupid now that I have looked it up. Why couldn't he just have his dad's last name if they wanted to go that route? They could still show his Hispanic mom and we would know he was half Hispanic.

Because if he took his father, Jefferson Davis’s, last name his name would be Miles Davis. Bendis is anything but subtle. Literally nothing in his story would change if his parents changed ethnicities

I feel like Miles needed a friend around his age. Peni was too young and the rest were about a generation older.

To be BLACKED like all blonde hair, white women

Gwen Stacy + Spider-Man + A really popular costume

Which is still a lot more than people expected. Had it not worked she would have fizzled out in the issue she was introduced in. Probably as one of the Morlun's snacks.

my nigga, do i see some clone high in the background?

>You mean an older chubby slob Gwen teaches Miles?

sounds kino

When I invented her in a conversation on Penny Arcade forums the point of this character was to highlight how ate of consent values and power dynamics in relationships rendered the super heroes in relationships with non-super powered characters as akin to statutory rapists of a sort because their human girlfriends did not have the means to make decisions on par with their male powered counterparts. I posited that the most amazing thing that Mary Jane Watson's character could do On a weekend was work with Brad Pitt and UNICEF building houses for Habitat For Humanity while Spider-man may over the weekend save not just the whole world of the entire universe but the multimeter itself along with alternate timeline versions of himself, including but not limited to a Professor X Spider-man and a living Spider-powered Gwen Stacy.

I was dating a minor at the time and thinking about power dynamics and law came into my head at the time seeing as how we were both liberal activists at the time and her father was a lawyer.

Does that answer your question? It was to Highlight how Mary Jane and Louise Lane are children compared to their ridiculously-high powered sex partners. It was about men or boys liking to have weak sex partners.

They’re pushing her desperately because they want to have a book with a female lead regardless of quality.

Bring mayday back, you can pair her with miles if you want but she’s a better character who could be used in canon Gwen has none of those qualities

ate of consent= age of consent
the whole multimeter = the whole multiverse

04:14:44
Anybody else expected to be the large Barron collided of contradictory beliefs? I am suppose to believe that I am both uncreative unoriginal and not unique or valuable at all while simultaneously believing that no one in all of geek and comic book culture ever to suggest that the power dynamics are off in the relationships of our 1960s era super heroes.
Also I got triple on 4 at 04:14:44

large Barron collided = Large Hadron Collider

hard benis

People are still talking about this nigger-movie? Yikes.

Was part of the many -Gwens that were planned in a multi-verse roadmap, got canned after Disney bought Marvel and so the only ones we have are Spider-Gwen and Gwenpool

>Aren't we going to do hero things today or something?
>Nah, I'm just going to down an entire pizza. My suit's been getting kinda tight around my ass anyways, might as well see if I can rip it. Wanna watch?

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To give me footjobs with those ballerinas

self insert for males

This

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There already exists a better spider girl with similar design gimmicks and luckily she isn't even capeshit.

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Gwen is for symbiote

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It's a pretty good movie so yes.

me on the left after nutting to her

Someone should edit the shadow of a dick onto her face

No, this time they're pushing it extra hard.

To finally get minorities into comics

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morales is a cool last name
but they probably wanted his dad to be in his life to avert the stereotype

spidey is for bullying by females.

For Cosplay in the comic con.

yup

Goddamn my fart fetish. I didn't like Gwen until I saw this.

Cute

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It is more like an eating ass fetish but hey, whatever floats your boat
or sinks it

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She looks like she fucks boomers

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What's the point of any character, really? Why do they exist? They're just vehicles for a story teller to tell their story, that's it. Sooooo predictable.

Honestly? Kinda cool.

Fuck that gets me hard

this

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Peni is the better Spidergirl.

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god i wish that were me

>"b-b-but she's not the same Gwen!"
>character genuinely has almost nothing to do with the Gwen
>still keeps being called Gwen for some inane reason
Just stop calling her Gwen and make her a completely "original" character and be done with it then

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DELET THIS
GWEN IS PURE

PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW

No one mistakes 616 Pete with RYV Parker.
I'm not sure why this is an issue.

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tfw no gwen gf

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bros..

based

RYV Parker is basically the regular Parker in an alternate timeline, Spider-Gwen has literally nothing in common with the original Gwen apart from the name and roughly her looks. It's such a contrived and confusing way of introducing a female Spider-Man that it just takes away from the character's potential.

Imagine if Batgirl, instead of being Gordon's daughter, was from an alternate timeline where Bruce got shot in that alley and his mom became Batman but also got hit with a de-aging ray that made her younger and also fell into a multiverse portal that transferred her to Bruce's dimension, it's just so unnatural and far-fetched that it only raises questions.

>I feel like Miles needed a friend around his age.
But he has tons of friends his age, like Ganke and Kamala and Sam

RYV Parker is a responsible adult and a good father/husband. 616 Pete is a man-child. Just like how Spider-Gwen is a web slinging hero, while 616 Gwen fucked Norman Osborn pumped out 2 kids and got thrown off a bridge.
Their histories make them different characters.

Also the prerequisite for being batman is a lot steeper than being spider-man. With spidey you just have to be bit by a spider and have a desire to help people. With batman you need, a shit load of money, years of training in martial arts, an extensive background in psychology, the arts, computing, etc. etc.

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Peni is a couple of months older than Miles in the movie.

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Peni is literally the same age as Miles, in the comics as well as the movie, she only looks younger in the movie for some reason

sorry, white boy

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Baby doesn't understand elseworlds

RYV Parker shares his history with 616 pretty much 100% up until the point where he gets married and has kids. 616 Gwen barely has a history or a personality and Spider-Gwen doesn't even attempt to match what little there was, her being an alternate Gwen is a pointless contrivance, and kind of disrespectful to Stan Lee and his wife.

It might be because she has wheels in her shoes.

The thing is that her storytelling vehicle is not unique or interesting enough compared to Peter's or one of the many other existing female Spider-Men to warrant such insistence on her existing

>Gwen fucked Norman Osborn pumped out 2 kids
this was a shit writing decision and really should not define the character

Peter and Bruce have such extreme personalities and circumstances that anyone else becoming Spider-Man and Batman is ridiculously far-fetched even for comic logic

It doesn't matter *where* the divergence happens, The point is that it happens and that's where the focus of the story is. Fallout's universe is exactly like our until the Moon landing in Fallout happens a day after ours. I'm sure you'll tell me we're exactly like the Fallout Universe though.

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I meant, they made her look and act 8 in the movie but made her 13 year old for an unexplained reason

she has a nice appealing character design so girls can cosplay her at cons, that is literally the only reason she exists.

W-what do you think those ballerinas feel like?

How does Ganke react to inter-dimensional girls mysteriously appearing in his room?

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Nudes and her suffocating miles under her ass

The world of Fallout compared to our world is comparable to the differences between RYV Parker and 616 Parker, that is, it's meant to be the real world and real history with a slight change near the end to make the consequences of nuclear war easier to identify with/consequences of Peter becoming a family man more familiar.

Calling the blonde Spider-Girl "Spider-Gwen" would be like saying the Middle-Earth in the LotR universe used to be our Earth until some world changing catastrophe turned it into the fantasy land we know, it'd just be a questionable writing decision that never manifests anywhere else in the actual story and doesn't really matter in any way at all.

It doesn't matter where the divergence happens, it matters that the divergence has absolutely no consequences or importance whatsoever, it's bad writing for the sake of bad writing.

Her field of view would be so terribly fucked, really, all her senses would be impeded. Can't smell, can barely see, can't hear behind her, why the fuck would anyone ever wear a mask with a hood if they were going to be doing something active?

Sounds exactly like any other anime.

Didn't he pass out?

Have sex

I mean...

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It's almost like she can rely on some sort of sixth sense that isn't impeded by a thin layer of cloth.

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Cute blonde girl with a really good costume. That's all she really has.

I tried to rewatch this show and it wasn't anywhere near as funny as I remembered when I first watched it in middle school.

No.

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I've got something for her that can't be impeded by a thin layer of cloth.

it's a dog dildo

>They're not high anymore

is this real

PENI HAD HER DOUJIN NOW

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Based

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The divergence changes the shape of the story, the roles of the characters involved, and who does or doesn't appear. It doesn't matter if the moon landing was a day late or if some Ayy lmao came and pissed in the primordial soup. The change happened and the characters and story are different because of it. The change of RYV Parker deciding to get married and have kids or the change of the radioactive spider biting Gwen instead of Peter.

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vrchat peni

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I like this pairing. Peter should have he opportunity to fuck the teenage version of his previously deceased girlfriend, whom he tragically lost.

But for fuck's sake QUIT USING "BOOMER" AS "OLDFAG/NON ZGEN/30 YEAR OLDS"... it literally is the word for baby boomer, i.e. born around 1945, which unless you're talking about Ditko's Peter it does not apply. If you want to get "generational" call them X-ers or something...

Fucking kids these days...

Anyone who actually likes this is just a contrarian who likes the arguement. They made spider Gwen for the same reason they made sins past to taint the character and dilute her more, it’s a name people vaguely recognize so they made her an alt universe spider which is whatever, sure make Pete a school shooter in your terrible comic it’s fine it’s shunted to an alt universe right? Why reduce her to another love interest if it was so important that she be an alt spider? Is it because both characters have nothing else but there connection, dubious or otherwise, to peter and they think that the absolutely forced pairing of them would make them better?

>If you want to get "generational" call them X-ers or something...
Like the muties? Fuck off.

>Miles getting a chubby Mommy GF
Noice

You keep ignoring the main point of my argument so I'm going to stop here

Wait, I just realized.
Isn't that the Mark of Kaine?

The mislabeling was intentional in the original meme, on most boards "boomer" now means "anything older than a child"

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boomer just means old millennials, any one who gets offended and triggered by the word boomer is a boomer.

Your 'argument' is nonsensical, especially considering you're able to accept concepts that explain why it's so flimsy in the first place.

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If we're specifically talking Spiderverse.
Miles is the NEW Spider-man who doesn't know what he's doing.
Peter B. is the old and tired Spider-Man who's been doing this thing for WAY too long
Gwen is the 2 years in Spider-man. Still in her prime but also suffered enough loss that it affects her personal relationships.

The pairing was only made to poss off actual spider man fans, that’s it. Marvel doesn’t cater to anyone familiar with books older than the 90s anymore so they don’t expect people to know who gwen is other than another spider girlfriend hence why they paired her with miles, to give him a bigger sense of “legitimacy” as a spider man. These arguements right here? They’re the only reason she exist to confuse one of you and to give the other a false sense of superiority

Stupid sjw pandering for an interracial couple

I wish I could argue against, but I can't

Something I always wonder is how does everyone get that skintight spiderman mask over their hair? Like Peter's got a short cut so it's fine. But Mile's afro or gwen's hair would probably bunch up a lot in a mask and it certainly wouldn't be form fitting like it's always been portrayed unless they also wear some sorta hair net or something to keep it down.

Should've been Ultimate Peter instead of Gwen

No that’s the Mark of Tyrone

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Eh, that'd be too many Peters honestly. Gwen at least creates a visual contrast than just having it be "old peter, Younger peter, Dead Peter and Miles"

I gotta admit, after watching ITSV, I got into watching BLACKED videos

>too many Peters
No such thing. If anything it should've been Peters-only.

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It should’ve been mayday having her awkwardly try not to admit to being his daughter until the end

So that's where it comes from.
Leave it to Yea Forums to double down on the retardation...

In any case, I wish retard kids stopped using it that way, this is how words lose meaning...

Is this the Torako guy? I hope there's another big wave of manga artist doing Spider Verse fan art when their BD is released.

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The internet has rendered human interaction trivial to many people. There isn’t a mystique to people or the world anymore just varying levels of provable terriblity

I agree, but couldn't the whole "spider-sense" thing compensate for that.

>boomer just means old millennials
...said the zoomer while choking on BBC.

Yep, he is called Nujima and posted it on twitter.

That's horribly gloom and accurate.

Is there a ballerina shoes fetish?

>it's finally happening

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I still love everybody in this creepy shitty world, someone has to. I’m not gonna let the world beat me, but Jesus Christ is it good at trying

There's quite a few do it already.

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God I hope Murata does some

Drawfags get on this!

He did a few sketches of Spider-Gwen, a Miles, and a group sketch. Mostly Gwen, I think he really likes Gwen.

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Is this from the same artist that guy on /k/ made a patch from?

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>hey kid, my jeans got stuck on my ass again
>come pull down on them while I pull the other way with my webs

Nhhhggg!!

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This is the only right answer.

Not hard to see why. Say what you will about Gwen but her spider suit has one of the best designs.

>it's another artist forgets spider gwen's gap teeth episode

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Not a fan personally, the color scheme is uninspired and the hood is played out and impractical.

Haha,wouldn’t it be be funny if Chubby Older Gwen mating pressed Miles?

Her and new Miles have great suits.

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God, imagine these fat juicy lips going back and forth on a big black cock.

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>Miles, we need more Ben and Jerry's. Go out and get uh... three Hunkahulk a Burnin' Fudge, that's gonna be breakfast for me.

Imagine feeling her tooth gap on your tongue.

But Hornet is soon getting blacked too.

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Trying not to fap today, guys.

Yes. It’s called being normal.
UGGGHHHHHHH I WANT TO FUCKING RUB MY DICK ON GWEN’S BALLERINAS

DRAWFAGS PLEASE GET ON THIS!!!

too fucking bad

the booty

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The porn, user. The porn.

>REEEEEEEEEEE

SFM FINALLY got good character models for Elastigirl and Azula. Hopefully someone is working on a proper Gwen model complete with gap teeth.

Then make the dad hispanic and the mom black. The only people who take their mom's last name in America are people whose dads are not it the picture.

>when she sees your can of Monster

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please give me Liv too.
And Spider-ham for completely unlewd reasons. I just wanna animate him.

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Or before they were married. My brother has my mom's last name.

>616 Gwen fucked Norman Osborn pumped out 2 kids
That defines 616 Gwen about as much as the clone saga define 616 Peter.
Have you never seen a moe anime? 13 year olds are typically portrayed as straight up lolis like in Yuru Yuri. Maybe I have seen too much of this shit but I can immediately tell by looking at her design that she is a teenager. She is actually a little younger than I thought.

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heh, nothing personnel, zoomer

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I have legitimately never met anyone who took their mom's last name because they were born out of wedlock (Unless the father was unknown or ran off at the first sign of a baby) and most of the people I know were born out of wedlock.

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I know a few. Maybe it was an older thing.

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Has Gwen ever met Gwen canonically?

I heard that the reason why miles goes by his mom's last name is that his dad's side of the family has some drama that he'd rather not tie his son to, which is why he forbids him from hanging out with his Uncle Aaron.

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..I-Is that Doc Ock Spider-Man?! O_O

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Yes it’s super progressive to have a black father say he’s so ashamed of his criminal family that he doesn’t want to share a name with his son. Also did you see that his name was Jefferson Davis? Miles last name is morales for the illiteration it’s just stupid how convoluted that is, making his father Hispanic changes nothing about his story and actually gives us another Hispanic man as a comic book character they don’t get as much representation as black guys

Hi there, twitter tourist, welcome to /co.mblr

>every version of you is drastically different
Weird how superheroes never meet a multiverse clone that's every bit the same as them except one likes soup and the other likes salad or something.

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Wouldn't he just change his own name if that were the case? If his super-common last name invites drama keeping his name is just going to affect his son anyway.

Makes it easier for the writers and audience to tell them apart
10 Peters who each like different flavors of coke but are identical in all other ways are kinda hard to tell apart

>people constantly complain that Miles is made for diversity points.
>People also constantly complain that Miles' character might exhibit negative stereotypes of black people.
You just can't win, man.

So Miles has a crush on/flirts with teen-photography-club-captain Peter?

lewd
very lewd

It plays into his man between 2 world shtick like practically everything else about him. His age of not being quite a man and not quite a boy, His parents and his bi-racial heritage, the fact that he takes his mother's last name instead of his father's, The split between his uncle and his father, the obvious balance of spider-man and civilian life, The divide of living on campus at BVA and home life, being born and gaining powers in 1610 but living in 616, his love living in another dimension from him, etc.

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Any art with these two where Gwen isn't the dominant party is fundamentally wrong.

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>my place tonight?

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Never read his comics, but I thought they nailed him as New York kid and someone from a bilingual household in his introduction in the movie. Uncle Aaron was great too, I wonder how it translated into foreign language dubs.

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I gave it a go.

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haha imagine the smell of all her sweat

Miles cumdumpster

Thank you, friend.

Y'know what I love. As much as people like to do the whole "BLACKED" thing I feel like Miles is such a sincere kid that even at 18 years old he'd just be a a deer in the headlights in the bedroom. Lots of "Is this ok? Am I doing this right? S-sorry did that hurt?" with Gwen basically having to coach him through it.

Kudos!

I only consider it a BLACKED thing because it’s Gwen I see what you’re saying and I’m not against Miles comceptually but if it was a movie where Miles got the older Peter killed and it was a mayday forced to train a new spider man I’d like it more. I understand the multiverse part of it but I think spider man works much better as a smaller story about someone trying to make it this universal constant reduces it a bit, as strange as that sounds together. Or at the very least change the character for the older fans

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That’s because you’re a woman

She won't break him.

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Was the "hey" in English in the Japanese dub? Also, cute.

It's a wonder that backwater goblins ever learned how to use technology.

Get bred by Miles

I felt a moment of dread until I saw the watermark because I'm pretty sure Rusk Joel uses that male model.

Cool character design and to be a contemporary for Miles.

Someone his age who is a legit super hero. It's not about Miles 'Growing up" or "Maturing" to be spider man, it's about him changing in a more subtle way. She shows Miles you can still be a 'kid/teen' and be a super hero.

I think on their first time Gwen would just get frustrated, pin him down and just ride him.

Noir's like 20 at most.

He's married to MJ in this universe. There is literally no cucking happening.

Good Idea by internet, taken by Marvel to profit of it. and my dick as well.

Clone high in the background?
I never noticed that

nice

Post more Gwen

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reboot when?

Sucks to be you, fag.

>Ugh, Miles, I've got a real hero thing for you to do. I ate too much, can you - urp - rub my belly until the pain goes away?

It’s the concept of the character that screws it. You turn what should be a simple story of a kid wanting to learn how to be better and turn it into a man losing his identity and watching his first love fall in love with someone else. You can’t say it’s different since it’s weird to make him so important to her story but then have her mean nothing to peter. It’s like if you had an uncle Ben spider man and never have him and Pete confront each other. It’s a spider man movie not made for spider man fans ironically made entirely in the back of nostalgia for spider man

>really nice character designs
>make them bad characters, give them minor roles or just forget them after 2 issues
This is why I hate post-90s Marvel

Miles makes every spider-man fan lose user

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I can see why some hardcore Peters fans might not like ITSV, but the idea that it was created to spite them or as some kind of ntr/race mixing propaganda is pretty ridiculous.

All art made on this scale is propaganda user, as I said I have nothing inherently against Miles have a white love interest I have something against him having Gwen as a love interest which was the point of the pairing in the comics.

to show that anyone can be spider-man and that "anyone can wear the mask".

Well no, only very special people in each universe can wear the mask user. Congratulations you turned a story about a dude randomly getting spider powers and how it fucks with his life, and turned him into a universal constant

Man, Spidey sex has to be really good. Just creating a large web and pinning each other down. Or just dangling around each other in a midair acrobatic love fest, dangling from webs or glued to the wall, ceiling or floor.

What I'm saying is spider sex is best sex.

>All art made on this scale is propaganda
What? The person I initially responded to was saying some out of pocket bullshit about a black spider-man leading to a relationship that only exist for interracial cucking. It's kind of crazy.

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Why is it so wrong to want something like this for spider Gwen?

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>getting hung up on semantics
what a zoomer

A black spider man killed the white spider man and took his first girlfriend. At that same time that girlfriend seemed to have no problem realizing that her supposed friend from her universe died in this new one due to inaction.

There is obvious propaganda in all American media for shut like this, I have no problem with interracial relationships but do you seriously believe that they aren’t being pushed a little to heavily in modern media?

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oh user
you have no idea
rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2179296#search=Fred_Perry Spider-Man

>but do you seriously believe that they aren’t being pushed a little to heavily in modern media?
I don't, and they don't really cross my mind until some person on the internet goes on about the destruction of white people when they see one.

You must not watch a lot of Netflix then

DUDE NIGGERS LMAO

ain't funny
we should have ethnostates at the least or better yet confine them to africa

So what's the propaganda on Storm fucking,Forge,Thor,Wolverine Nightcrawler and then going to Black Panther?

Muties aren't people, user.

Then Danny Rand and Misty Knight?

Miles girlfriend

This is every superhero but batman, daredevil and spider man

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Didn’t she only get with Thor in marvel adventures? Though you’d imagine two people controlling the weather would have something to talk about.

Also all of those characters existed at the same time in the same universe, they literally had to concoct an entire universe to cross over in order for miles to even meet gwen Stacy. Their relationship is built on bendises fetish just like Jessica Jones and luke cage or the fact that he had to write the stupidest reason to have Miles father be black and mother Hispanic. And the only reason he is with Gwen is because of her connection to peter that made her a character again user.

>it’s stupid to think that the media is pushing interracial relationships
>posts a bunch of interracial relationships

Finally storm is better than BP their relationship was forced as well

That was two characters who met and grew together IN THEIR OWN DIMENSION and was there ever a point where misty was luke’s dead former lover created over 40 years before Danny was even created to fill a black guys name?

How progressive

Thor and Storm litterally almost had a Daughter user and if we are talking about cross universe fucking then Captian America and Ms.Marvel would like a word with you.

>Their relationship is built on bendises fetish just like Jessica Jones and luke cage
user they were in a relationship before

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So did captain America fuck his predecessors first girlfriend because his creators were to lazy to make a good character?

If we are talking about Bucky he did fuck Black Widow.

Jessica Jones was created by bendis everything the story was meant to do was get her with luke. I have no inherent problem with interracial relationships user but miles and Gwen ruin each other, my inherent disdain for them aside

Steve’s first girlfriend was black widow? Since when? Though the story of him fucking the commie out of a woman sounds like a good story

It seems like you have a problem with only BMWF relationships but not WMBF ones. I say thia because Luke and Jessica have all the qualities Iron Fiat and Misty does

Steve was in a very long relationship with Black Widow and then Bucky did the same thing Miles is doing. They even made it where Bucky and Widow fucked beforehand.

I don’t have a problem inherently with interracial relationships dude I don’t even have a problem with luke and Jess. But you can’t tell me you’ve never heard of bendises issues with fetishizing blacks

Though I will say that BLACKED posting has made me more racist. So good on that sad Asian guy who loves doing that I suppose

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I haven’t read a lot of cap but wasn’t she also in a relationship with daredevil? And Hawkeye? And wouldn’t her relationship with Bucky techinically preceed her relationship with Steve since they met in the red room training. Though once again I’ll say how great it is that Steve ducked the commie outta Natasha

She got pasaed around more than Jean Gray honestly.

Based on Adinapilled

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Seems like a conversation like that between Gwen and Peter B. would be unnatural. Peter B. is not Peter from earth 65 just like Spider-Gwen is not Gwen from 616. Peter B. and Gwen apologizing to each other for 'letting' their alternate universe counter part die is retarded, It does no benefit to Gwen 616 or Peter 65. The only reason stuff like that happens in comics is to give 'closure' for the reader.

I'm not sure why you're jumping through all these hoops though, You just want to see Peter get another chance at Gwen.

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No I just don’t want her to be around since her being Gwen Stacy has no relevance to the plot or her character.

And I’ll reitterate she’s so obsessed over her friends death it seems weird to me that she feels nothing over letting ultimate peter die and even weirder how there is no real interaction between her and old Pete

And shit like this while nice, makes no sense in that context because why would she give a fuck about what her dead beta orbiter liked?

It’s a spider man movie that gets worse the more you know about spider man

Plus she was the one who pulled fat uncle Peter away from the other MJ because she wasn't the one he knew. It would be weird for her to acknowledge that alternate version of some one you knew are different, then treat him as her dead Peter.

She pulled him away because they had a limited time table. And she didn’t want to face that she was the reason ult Pete dies.

Also that MJ didn’t love her peter, not even two days go by and she’s attending the party of her husbands killer

I mean she probably didn't even realize he was gonna die or that he was Spider-man. She'd have no idea what was going on in the collider that night. Miles was only there by happenstance. And while it probably sucked for her to find out yet ANOTHER Peter Parker died, it's probably something that wouldn't keep her up too long. I mean a dead Peter Parker is her reality. It'd be like if we went from OUR universe to a universe where Prince was still alive and then Prince died a week later. Like it'd still suck but I've long since gotten used to the idea that Prince is dead.

Everything in this post is wrong. And I legitimately can't tell if it's bait or just an inability or refusal to understand the characters and their motivations.

But what if you specifically could have saved him and you’re choice not to contact him was what killed him?

Also are you saying that if your best friend was dead and you found yourself in another dimension you wouldn’t even attempt to see him? Even if it was an alternate him?

Kamala needs to stop.

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user is Fag
youtu.be/uCMcqz48siY
Has to be bait

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A little bit of both at this point

So what you’re saying is a 16 year old girl is more emotionally mature than a 36 year old man?

It would do nothing because that's not the him I know. The only thing that would be the same is his face

A 36 year old man that litterally just got a divorce yes

You’re a cold mama Jamma user, I hope I’m not your friend

You know, when Spider-Verse came out I told Yea Forums that the movie was alright, but none of the characters mattered except for Peter and Miles, and everyone else was just pointless fluff to make into funko pops. And Yea Forums yelled at me that I was wrong and I told you all that you were fucking blind idiots.

Well suck my dick now that you realize I'm right you fucking retards. Suck my motherfucking dick.

Is more emotionally unstable than a girl who killed her best friend? I get he was just a beta orbiter it’s she probably used to buy stuff but still she killed him

>Though I will say that BLACKED posting has made me more racist.
>more racist
You were always racist. Blacked just forces you to realize it.

She didn't kill 1610 Pete. She would not have access to Meta knowledge that Peter = Spider-man because this is her first multi-verse adventure. You're blaming her or trying to put guilt on her for something that wasn't Gwen's fault. Gwen didn't toss Parker into the collider, and Gwen didn't cave his chest in either.

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user when did that happen to here during the time of the film? By your logic Peter B. should be even more unstable since he got his uncle, and aunt killed.

>implying that kamala cares about young people
although she may search in the multiverse for a version of a young miles when she becomes in the new captain marvel

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It was pretty in character or her. The cool, loner, that tries really hard to act mature.

We’re all racist user, when you grow up you just learn to give people the benefit of the doubt. I don’t hate anybody I love em I just realized that free love just means nothing, still love you I just know no one loves me.

But her spider sense lead her to where Miles would turn into spider man a week early? She got Pete killed, though Pete didn’t help himself he was going up against multiple bad guys and didn’t use any of the three fucking armors we saw he made?

His aunt died of natural causes his uncle died decades ago scarring him enough to be spider man. Gwen’s peter died two years ago and she’s been a recluse ever sense. Why would she have no emotions involved with seeing her dead best friend again?

Why would I contact him? How would I even know to contact him? For all she knows he's still dead in this universe too. I mean she has no evidence that there'd different dimension counterparts of anyone. I mean it's not like she ran into Miles' universe Gwen Stacy. She would have to make some leaps of logic to even assume half of this stuff works that way. And even then, even if she KNEW there was a Peter Parker in this dimmension she could be hesitant because LAST time she involved Peter Parker with her spider-powers thing he turned himself into a large lizard monster and then died. Also he'd have absolutely no idea who she is, as far as she knows so what's she gonna say. "Oh hey I'm your friend from another dimmension. But you're dead because you turned into a giant lizard monster and then died and I blame myself. Sooooooo How's it goin'?" Like we established she has NO idea that HE is spider-man, she comes from a universe where she's the ONLY spider-man so she probably wouldn't just divulge in, for all intents and purposes, a complete stranger.

>Gwen’s peter died two years ago
And there you go you answered the question why she can be more mature than Peter when it comes to lost in that moment

Nigga not contact him SEE him you’d think the throw away line about spider sense they used to justify her finding miles, and the multiple times we saw how spider sense reacts to other spiders would lead me to think she would’ve tried seeing pete or contacting spider man.

For people to constantly whine about "pushing agendas" and how much they hate black people.

But ignoring that, she was ACTUALLY created for an event where multiple types of Spider characters were created so they could team up

Her solo comic is absolute trash. Read both volumes and it starts off nice enough and justs wastes all its potential. The fact that her 3rd volume and 4th volume have/had their opening arcs about her crossing dimensions again, shows how poorly the character is handled.

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Ballet slippers > sneakers

I always assumed that Peter just didn't realize what he was up against. Like when he's just going up against Green Goblin he's actually doing fine. He's quipping, smacking him around, having a grand time. It's when Prowler shows up that he starts to struggle a bit. And then when he gets pushed into the event horizon of the collider and then exploded is when shit really hits the fan for him. This was probably just your typical "stop the bad guy, break his stuff and then go home to bone your sexy redhead wife". I mean as far as he knew he just had to put the goober in the thing and it'd shut down and everything would be fine.

>Though I will say that BLACKED posting has made me more racist.
Crazy that stormfags are still at it after all these years.

Literally nothing would change in the movie if she wasn’t Gwen Stacy, but these niggas seem to think it’s unfair to judge a comic book character by their comic books

But he would’ve known that he would be dealing with Fisk and his organization on top of dealing with doc ock. What’s the point of him being shown as having all of that armor if he wasn’t going to use it?

Me or them? Cause I’m no storming nigga

Her first day at BVA was probably for research seeing as the first time we see her clearly she's watching a documentary on Alchemax. Seems obvious she was honing in on getting a way back because we see her again on her way to Olivia's office to make her own Goober, Peter and Miles just beat her to the punch. Her 2nd day at BVA was the curiosity of her spider-sense reacting to Miles' undeveloped version.

As for Peter, I don't know. Maybe he was planning on being more stealthy when stopping the collider before being found out by Goblin and Prowler.

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Than why didn’t he use his stealth suit that we also saw in the movie?

I mean that's more of a gripe with the "spider sense finding miles thing" which fair enough, is one of my complaints because it's never expanded on. But it has been shown that Spider-sensing each other doesn't have a very long range.
Miles and RIPeter had to be face to face to sense each other. Peter, Miles and Gwen were all in Peter's warehouse for a while before their spider-sense finally alerted them to the other spider-people in the room.
I do wish the movie hadn't yada-yada'd exactly what drove Gwen to come to that school so much cuz it is a weird hole in this story.

You're right. Nothing would but they wanted a female character to differentiate from the two male heroes. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, having different types of characters is great because it means we'll have more unique designs and say what you will about the movie but visually it's fantastic

what this guy said. A simple under estimation of Kingpin's forces that would be present at the collider.

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...wait, is she wearing ballerina shoes? That really seems like something you would not want to wear if you needed traction or were doing a lot of climbing.

She was there for a week user she states it clearly

She was at the school to meet miles and get the meet cute, I wouldn’t mind as much if she was a different character but she isn’t so here we are again

>Me or them? Cause I’m no storming nigga
Not you. The constant attempts from stormers to push this site towards white supremacy.

A simple under estimation? I kinda get that consider Pete has been beating the sinister six alone for 50 years it is annoying that all of a sudden they’re responsible for his death. But why make him Batman if he won’t use any of the gadgets? Fuck why bother to have a cycling spandex suit at all if you can make something with actual protection?

Because, breaking free from the film's universe a bit, it'd be odd to see Spider-Man wearing a suit that's not his iconic one. Like the other suits are great as cameos but that's pretty much what they're meant to be. When Spider-Man appears to miles it's sorta important that it's THE Spider-Man. Which is what RIPeter is meant to represent. He is almost a perfect amalgam of who spiderman is and has been throughout the years. He's basically the CONCEPT of Spider-Man given form rather than just a guy. At leas that is his role in the story.

I didn't really like Sunflower at first, but now it stuck with me.

Same. The best part is, I too, do not know the words. So me trying to sing along to it just makes me resonate with Miles all the more.

But it’s not odd to see a whole spider man that’s not the iconic one? Also why not just armor that is in the same pattern?

Yeah. A week. A week to figure out that she's inside an alternate universe, that Alchemax is building a machine that can tear open a rift to other dimensions for Fisk, To learn the location of Alchemax and it's head scientist, To build her own goober, to discover the location of the collider, and to get herself home. A week sounds about right for that list, Unless you think she could do all of that within hours factoring in she would have no currency for that massive inflation of 1610 NYC as well as the disorientation of the City layout being different from hers.

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>But it's not odd to see a whole spider man that's not the iconic one
No. Because this is the film introducing him. In the same way that every new spider-man series effectively "introduces us" to Peter Parker, this is a series where it assumes we already know who he is. It's a film that says Here's a new guy. Meet Miles. Which is why Peter is treated more as a SYMBOL of Spider-man and Miles is the PERSON we will see try to achieve that symbol.
>Also why not just armor that is in the same pattern?
And because audiences don't want to see Spiderman in armor. Also it'd give away how many resources this Spider-Man has and that'd detract from the "wow" moment when you actually see his extensive warehouse of shit. And y'know. Because when Spider-Man shows up, it'd be best if he was in his most iconic look, as I said before.

Luckily she didn’t glitch out in the middle of science class I guess

Wasn’t it proven that the biggest blacked poster was some Asian kid? So not white guys pushing anger but Asians pushing division

It’s funny how much it builds him up as an icon while constantly shitting on him

So we can get a pseudo Exiles movie since the spinoff will be 2099 time traveling with the other Spiders.

3rd movie will be a film version of Spider-Verse

>A black spider man killed the white spider man and took his first girlfriend.

Hmm... I don't remember this happening, what issue was it?

It’s in the movie punkin, though there may be a Tracy scoop comic down the line

I can't believe Miles shot Peter and fucked MJ over his corpse. That's some bold cinema.

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Raimi felt guilty I suppose and went heavily in the other direction though

>MJ
>first girlfriend
Come on son

>Wasn’t it proven that the biggest blacked poster was some Asian kid? So not white guys pushing anger but Asians pushing division
Not really. That dude is for sure a crazy hapas fucktard but there isn't anything connecting him to the posts besides some random assertions.
Meanwhile it fits stormfags MO to the letter and it's been getting posted for years now. It's them trying to throw a smokescreen up so it's less obvious they're the ones doing it.

Tbf that sounds as plausible as the JIDF flooding it to sew dissent among the masses

Hey she was In Ultimate

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same here

Pfft ultimate is for suckers buddy

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They're pretty aesthetic.

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They really are.

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>You find yourself in Gwen's house.
>She is asleep.
>You can see her untied ballerina shoes resting at the front door.
>There's a 50% chance her spider senses will detect you if you steal them for...ahem, reasons.
Do you do it?

No reason not to. If you got caught why wouldn't you just make something up like it was dark and you mistook them for your shoes?

>pick them up and stuff them into my underwear
>50% chance she doesn't notice and I get out of Dodge with my dick rubbing on her shoes
>50% chance she notices but she doesn't want them back because I'm rubbing them with my dick
Win fucking win.

I actually just watched the movie for the first time and she was clearly just there to be the love interest and to fill the badass girl slot.
She did a decent job filling that slot but I kind of wish she had a bit more going on or that she had even less going on and her scenes were replaced with more Peni and Noir.

What kind of moron do you have to be to confuse ballerina slippers with whatever velcro sandals you're probably wearing

and what size manlet do you have to be to have feet small enough to fit into the shoes of a 15yo girl

I'd totally wear Gwen's ballerina shoes if I could fit into them.

> appealing
DUDE HOODIES TO MAKE IT REALLY EZ FOR COSPLAYERS LMAO

how does gwen have webshooters? She isn't smart enough to make them herself

Can I hide in a closet?

Wasn't there something about Peter making them for her before he lizarded out in her origin comic?

The writing team needs to improve, but the art looks much better than her first run.

You could but if Gwen notices, she'd find you anyway.

another thing, why the fuck was Peter the lizard and not doc ock? Turning Ock out of jealousy for spiderman would really be the 'superior spiderman' and makes far more sense than going lizard.

Janet Van Dyne made them for her. She is like Edna from Incredibles in her book

Because the lizard concept is easier to write as a metaphors for school shooters

why was peter parker an incel in her universe? It's cringy as fuck everytime she reverse to Peter as "her friend" who died in her universe.

If she finds you will she web you up?

Right on !

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Peter tried to give himself powers to help Gwen and became a monster in the process. I kind of like that a little more than another hero gets jealous and goes bad story honestly.
The writers of the film realized that the Miles thing makes a lot of comic people a bit uncomfortable since it comes across a bit like the writers giving her to the successor like she was one of Peter's possessions and retconned them into being friends. For the sake of the movie I actually kind of appreciated the retcon.

Maybe?

>deer in the headlights

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>Lets make a female Spider-man
Sure thing, Spider-woman.
>She isn't really, she has her own power-set and stuff
Mayday Parker, Peter's daughter
>No
Ultimate Spider-woman, a literal female clone of Peter
>No
Silk
>Who? No
How about an alternate universe Gwen Stacy who lives instead of Peter and gets Spider-powers, but is an unlikable hipster twat that would resonate with a young female demo if they actually read comics.
>Yeah, that one looks neat.

>Spider-woman
>Ultimate Spider-woman
>Silk
I am not a big fan of Gwen but honestly fuck those characters. They have never been even slightly interesting. At least Gwen looks cool and fits the alternate universe thing they were going for with her intro.
Mayday is cool but bringing her into the modern 616 would have been an absolute disaster.

>Purple grey and black
Her fursona

Silk was literally introduced by making out with Peter. It wasn't until her solo where she actually had some kind of character.

Holy shit which vendor is that?

>Teeth on the hood
I fucking love this

Absolut UNITpin!

>Silk was literally introduced by making out with Peter.
What does that have to do with anything I said?
Honestly introducing a new character then having them get in the pants of established characters within a few issues of their introduction seems a bit cringey to me even with characters I really like (Constantine with Zatana for example)
Anyway I don't plan on reading her solo any time soon so I will have to take your word for it I guess.

First impressions are important for a new character. Let's just say Silk could have used a better one.

Her spider sense told her to take creep shots of Miles too.

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she looks British as fuck

I wondering why something like this would even exist, but then I remembered someone on the commentary track calling him Bambi or something.

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get blacked

Wasn’t she studying science alongside Peter, or did they not apply that aspect of hers in Spider Gwen?

Gwen is for ___

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cuddling and intense hand holding

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I think she's cuter after she had half of her hair shaved, she should have sheered the rest of it.

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My dick.

> That rare moment when your aesthetic sense and your dick are in unanimous agreement.

Yes.

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Well that's just fucking cute.

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>both have little to no substance to them
>both have no reason to exist
>both have uninspired color schemes
>both are just straight up stealing from Peter
Pottery kino shipping

>They have never been even slightly interesting.
Hey, just like Gwen

The only good Jessica drew is the 1610 variant. Jessica Drew has also never been a 'main' spider.
Mayday wouldn't work for this movie because it distracts from Peter's story. The decision to try to make it work with MJ wouldn't come from Parker himself after soul searching but from trying to make sure Mayday exists.
Silk isn't a main spider.

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What a "main spider" is or isn't is decided by the writers, just like Gwen's age, or Miles' existence are

Nah, Slik was given powers in tandem with Parker and was stuck in a bunker for decades. Jessica Drew powers are completely different from other Spider people and she's always co-existed with another Spider-person around.
Gwen is a prime spider of her universe, No one else was bit by spider in her universe and she patrols it as their protector and protagonist. Same goes Peni, Noir, Ham, Parker, and Miles.

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Nah

Miles is just a great value Peter in Ultimate

>all that cute miles and uncle aaron on their twitter
Nice

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Source?

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She looks like the type of girl who'd smoke socially, own a ball-gag, and get flustered by compliments.
The sick science of waifu design outdid itself with her.
Is her comic any good?

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The next movies should be a Gwen movie. Or at least have a lot of Gwen.

but she is already getting her own movie

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Where do they say that? Pete gave himself powers to stop the bullying, it’s why her beating him and emasculating him hit her so hard

Really?

pixiv.net/member.php?id=16527273

In case anyone asks, here's the source for .

pixiv.net/member.php?id=499681

Practically the first thing they announced along with the sequel to ITSV was the Gwen-centric spin-off Spider-women.

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Nice

So, evil Cindy movie?

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I feel like that’s going to make way less money if they cut peter out entirely of a spider man movie. But bad idea will be bad ideas. They fucking have mayday at least, she has stories you can adapt for the screen

to many god damn spidermans. this is why death in comics should be mostly permanent and legacy characters either replace old characters or just die off

No and it hasn’t been in her three volumes, it’s just a nice design and nothing more

Let Gwen team up with Drew in the sequel.

They already pulled it off with venom.

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Venom was live action, and spider verse proved that there isn’t to much interest in an animated spider movie without peter. Hell japan didn’t give a single fuck about it and they love spider man and animated movies

Sick of them trying to push that nigger down everyones' throats.

Incels seething that blonde white girls are made for BBC. Stay mad wh*te cvckies.

I’m so proud of her

Yes that fictional blonde white girl was just made for miles, everyone knows this. So enjoy your fiction fren, just like your fictional social life.

>Venom was live action, and spider verse proved that there isn’t to much interest in an animated spider movie without peter
Right, because Venom animated like Spider-Verse wouldn't have been the most amazing thing ever.
Thinking about a 3D Carnage going absolutely fucking nanners is giving me an erection so hard I can feel my heartbeat through my pants.

8 million for the Jap box office is pretty good for a non-Japanese, non-Disney animated feature, when most films of that nature struggle to break 2. Spider-verse has pretty good Blu-ray sales as well as excellent word of mouth. It'll do fine.

>Peter tried to give himself powers to help Gwen and became a monster in the process. I kind of like that a little more than another hero gets jealous and goes bad story honestly.
it shouldn't be a lizard still, it was a lizard because of regen powers in the original. If incel peter wanted to be like gwen he would have chosen a spider too. Man spider would have worked.

>The writers of the film realized that the Miles thing makes a lot of comic people a bit uncomfortable since it comes across a bit like the writers giving her to the successor like she was one of Peter's possessions and retconned them into being friends. For the sake of the movie I actually kind of appreciated the retcon.
It's fine them being friends, it worked in Ultimate too. Its making Peter seem like her beta orbiter thats off.

>down everyones' throats
No, just Gwen's

honestly the best thing about gwenverse is evil Daredevil but they're doing jack shit with that.

The entire reason Gwen was revived in all these alternate universes, one of which was Spider-Gwen, was because the envious writers couldn't stop SEETHING about how Gwen was permanently killed off, cucking them out of their lazy revivals and making them look bad in comparison. They were also mad they didn't come up with it first, so their solution was to tarnish the pioneering example.

Do we even see how or when she got bitten? Was it radioactive like the OG or was it another genetically modified spider?

sliding her butt right back into next week literally onto my dick

but he cute

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no idea, they just skip over it

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How the duck did secret life of pets out gross it in Japan by a factor of 5? Jesus

She serves as Miles love interest

Like everything about gwen there is no story to her, just the universe her writer can’t help jack off how much fun he has being super cool and subversive about it

evil daredevil is kinda interesting, but Ultimate did it far better with evil Reed Richards

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That’s my problem in the long run, things we know about spider Gwen
>why Matt Murdoch is kingpin
>why captain America is a black woman
>Why there is no FF
>what frank castle is like as a cop

Things we don’t know
>when she got her powers
>where she got her suit from
>what she wants to do with her life
>how old she is

It’s a comic that completely threw world building out the window to build its universe

What's her motivation? Is incel peter really supposed to be her uncle ben movement? Why are you responsible for your beta orbiter getting jealous and turning himself into a lizard? He's just a generic villain not someone she should mope over.

>how old she is
I've always figured like college aged but spiderverse they have her in high school.

>>how old she is
However old she needs to be in order to be legal for Miles, apparently

She was initially old enough to have her own place and her band was well known enough to be a source of income but they deaged her when they paired her with miles

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she's 19.

Powers gained in high school either junior or senior year.

She doesn't know what she wants to do with her life. I believe that indecision is a plot point.

As to how she got her suit I don't know. Does that matter?

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>when she got her powers
From evil Cindy >where she got her suit from
From a retired Wasp. 2nd paragraph.

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>Is her comic any good?
I don't know if you could call it good, but the recent "Gwen Stacy; Ghost Spider" has been ok so far.
They're making Gwen more and more like her feminine self again in that comic specifically, because she finally grew out her hair that is her famous bangs and headband look which might be significant later on who knows, and she wears cute dresses ever since she got her symbiote.
Also they're setting up HarryxGwen for some reason. Who knows how that might end up like.

fapbait

Because they were childhood friends. There were flashbacks to her defending Peter as kids. Shit, she, Peter, and Harry played DnD together.

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>filter moisture through the air to create webbing
that's fucking retarded, just give her organic webbing at this point

Link me to a comic user, I'm not reading through a page of a character I despise whose only saving grace are alternate versions of characters I like

I'm sorry but no high school girl as attractive as Gwen Stacy is playing DnD if she was a bit uglier maybe but god damn it. Though doesnt this page conflict with what evil cindy said?

They should have kept the larger age gap. Older girl x younger boy is the best.

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A 2-3 year gap isn't that major.

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Its more of a 40 year age gap but you don't get that, so I'll just keep on fighting for him to get his own supporting cast

I mean when I READ all of this it all sounds all good. It feels like Gwen suffers from a mishandled idea rather than a bad idea. I haven't read her comics but this page makes her sound fun.

That page was from issue 1 of Spider-Gwen vol 2.

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Ignoring in favor of MJ or Peni.

I like their ITSV designs a lot more. Miles' slightly looser curls make him look more half latino than the generic buzz cut does. Gwen's eyebrow piecing and gap teeth are great too.

Did you miss the part where I said all she has going for her is her design?
The other Spider-bitches don't even have that going for them.

Miles's suit is way better in the movie too.

I know, and in a comic book about a girl who swings through the city on something someone else made I guess and can hop through dimensions I still find the most unbelievable thing about it is someone as attractive as her playing dnd, maybe if it was a bigger group, I don't really see how much fun a dungeon master can have DMing just two people.

Though where do you see this Old wasp (janet van dyne I presume, post pym smack probably cause you can't have good guys in a comic like this) giving her her costume

I don't remember any version of Gwen being 40+. They usually don't live that long.

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Mayday has a personality at least, I don't think her comics were ever perfect and I can't really think of a modern writer I'd want tackling her, but her connection to pete and how she grw into her own hero was solid

I hate Miles too (Because he is a gary stu Adonis that every woman wants for some reason. Not because he is a 'nigger') but he is a pretty likable character in the movie.

as I said you don't get that because fans of miles and Spider Gwen aren't spider-man fans

But I think Silk's costume is cool.

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>for some reason

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>it shouldn't be a lizard still, it was a lizard because of regen powers in the original. If incel peter wanted to be like gwen he would have chosen a spider too. Man spider would have worked.
It was just a way to make Peter into a comic villain in a quick backstory. I guess man-spider would have made more sense but I really don't see any issue at all with him becoming the Lizard.
>Its making Peter seem like her beta orbiter thats off.
I really didn't get that feeling. They only showed him like once in her flashback for a couple of seconds. For all we know he could have been with MJ in that world and just had a close female friend.

Without Spider powers Parker is a beta orbiter.

People keep saying Peter was a beta orbiter but it just seems like he was just the same bullied teenager he always was, just without getting a confidence boost/empowered by a radioactive spider. Peter Parker's life was pretty shit before the spider-man thing, so I'm not too surprised that a Peter who doesn't become Spider-Man would be the kinda kid desperate for approval. I mean hell when he first becomes Spider-man he uses his powers to showboat, show off and make cash. And then his uncle dies.

>It's another Gwen is for Parker no matter the circumstances argument again.

Penny should have gone to school with them.

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>Its another Miles only exists because of peter, just like gwen, but them being together just invalidates them both

Read Marvel adventures spider-man or age of apocalypse and see other Gwens who aren't defined by peter

>All the teachers fawning over her because she's just acing every test in the background while still trying to figure out the villain's next plot.
It's not your fault, by my standards your curriculum is like...50 years out of date.

>intentionally bumps into him instead of approaching him after their class together like a normal person
Was it autism?

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what was the difference?

Well I did single her out as the one good one so I agree with you there. I don't think she has much of a place in the modern 616 or Into the Spider-verse though.
Meh. She looks kind of like a GI Joe villain.

The spray paint and Js are cool. I also like when he wears his casual clothes over it.

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How do they invalidate each other by being together?

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Parker was on a fast track to becoming a villain before uncle Ben got shot. His mantra was essentially 'I only care for Uncle Ben and Aunt May, everyone else can rot' before Ben took that bullet.

>crate a black character
>Give him lightning powers
It HAS to be on purpose.

I hate to go this route but really Peter felt like he was ONE screw loose away from being a school shooter.

Because Miles is always going to be in the shadow of peter because of the refusal to have him define himself in his own name, just giving him a gwen stacy to be love interests with is not the way to make me, as a spider-man fan, accept him as spider-man Its not unreasonable to think of a new legacy character for peter, and considering you have to kill peter to make him happen you're always going to have an uphill battle getting him liked. Why add another layer of complication to that? But as I said before those characters weren't created FOR spider-man fans, they were created to spite them.

And at teh end of the day why does it ahve to be gwen for this pairing to work? What does that specific character name add to it? or her character?

Evil Cindy was pretty hot.

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He was young and isolated but if you ever read any spider-man comic where you saw him as a kid growing up you'd see that Ben and May were better parents than to let peter become that. But I get it you all love the idea of peter getting his name tarnished because its the only way to build up miles

Peter already was going down a dark path when he became Spider-Man. It was Uncle Ben having a heart to heart with him combined with his death that really kept his head on his shoulders. Honestly I don't read comics much and so I'm looking at spiderverse in a vacuum. I just like exploring these sorts of "what-ifs".

No one even brought up Miles. Get him out of your head, user.

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I mean its not unheard of of movie fags ruining everything so I don't blame you specifically. Good heros going bad has just become an abused trope and seeing it be Gwen having to accept that peter was always a piece of shit is the knife twist in the completely hackneyed and understandable avenue the what if went down

>Gwen having to accept that peter was always a piece of shit is the knife twist in the completely hackneyed and understandable avenue the what if went down
What book did that happen in?
It certainly wasn't in the film.

its in the comic user, its only partially seen in the film with the way she was completely fine with trash talking the old pete and was seemingly unaffected by her supposed BFF dying in another dimension that she potentially could've prevented. But maybe the lesson here is that women don't value friendship as much as I had hoped, and if they don't find you attractive you have no purpose or value

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She barely trash talked Peter in the film. And it was always playful. Off the top of my head she said "yes...they are." in response to Aunt May's sweatpants comment. And then later when he says "ah we taught him that" she goes "you DEFINITELY didn't teach him that". THAT is the harshest burn she EVER gives him and it's towards the end of the film after they've gotten to know each other.

what about the part where she let his good friend die again and it had no impact on her?Why bother to make peter a part of her back story if they're never going to have her bring up the connection or deal with it? Or once again do women not find any value in a man they don;t want to fuck?

eh I like the original spider design better, the civilian look is cool but can be over his original too

Booty blasted. He is Spider-man, Both in comic and in movie. Always has and always will be. Parker's death caused by inaction is a motivator for Miles to do something same as Uncle Ben was a motivator for Pete.

oh my fucking god. AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT. Let it FUCKING GO. She didn't know. The movie didn't have TIME for that shit and you're obsessed.

He was created to be nothing but Black spider man, Peter Parker was created to be Peter parker who through an accident becomes spider man. Is dick grayson only batman? Or sam wilson only captain america? Do any of them have a character and motivation to live their own lives outside of the costume? If not you're pity character, created to sate the writers fetish, can stay

Also can you name me one good story from his comics? Or his current motivation?

what dark path? Making $$ with is powers as an entertainer? He was just a selfish person, not evil by any means. If uncle Ben never died he would have become Tony Stark.

They had more fun friendly banter than most of the other characters in the film desu. There were putdowns but they weren't harsh or angry.
It would have been nice for them to go into their connection a little more but they had more believably friendly chemistry together than Gwen did with Miles.

I don't see you saying no the the question. which is technically the most worrying part.

He should just take on the name Tarantula or Black Widow. Scarlet Spider as a name exists as a reason, it's disrespectful to just take on an existing hero's name.

Also the movie didn't have time to establish her feelings bout a character they wen't out of their way to show she had a connection with in her backstory?

His DnD thing (which I guess everyone in comics fucking plays DnD now) was Shadow Spider which honestly works. Though the Brown Recluse is still available

Bye thread

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