Looney Tunes

Yeah. Had to stop myself from going to Silly Symphonies first because i’m an autist that works best in a straight line but I resisted the urge. Should be fun, never watched a B&W short of the real characters besides Porky in Wackyland.

If you have to preface it by trying to block criticisms of the main aspect of a character maybe she isn't that good to begin with?

Maybe it’s a repeated meme that needs to be quelled immediately as a nonargument?

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Only if you're a furry.

asshole daffy is way better. the perfect foil to bugs and many other characters.
I hope we at least get to see both types of daffy's and not just the crazy one in these shorts.

Speaking of, which one was it where Daffy spills a cup of water while sleeping with Porky, and he thinks he pissed the bed?

There is nothing wrong with a cartoon character being sexy, soccer mom. Even if that’s not the appeal to you, she still elicits humor from everyone else around her, the Red Hot Riding Hood archetype.

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I was talking about the character design in OP's image

In that case, I hope it’s just one boarder’s take on Daffy. He’s a little too thin for me. The Bugs and Elmer dynamite fight looked way better.

Nah, calling it a 'nonargument' just means you're aware of the character's lack of 'personality' and don't want to immediately get shot down.

You can't just call any criticism you don't like a meme.

Not seeing an argument here.

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My favorite cartoon of all time period is The Great Piggybank Robbery, it's a literal masterpiece. Bob Clampett is untouched to this day in his direction and style.

But my favorite character by far is Bugs. I love that fucker. (My second favorite toon is Baseball Bugs)

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>you have to be an old prude to not be a furfag
this is what your kind actually believe, huh?

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>you have to find a Betty Boop derivative attractive to find her funny

That’s like saying you need to find Pepe Le Pew or Johnny Bravo as attractive to find them funny.

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Your conflation with sex positivity and “not having a character” derives from prudishness. You don’t need to find her sexy for her routine to be funny. Nobody bitches about Betty Boop or Jessica Rabbit.

New Lola is just another Looney character, and nowhere near as good as the rest of them. Old Lola was a fresh archetype for the group that can shake up the dynamic. Basically if Pepe is the ultimate comic extension of male sexuality, Lola is the ultimate female extension of sexuality. Lola’s “new personality” worked OK in Seinfeld but Looney Tunes, but it would suck in a real short.

>You don’t need to find her sexy for her routine to be funny. Nobody bitches about Betty Boop or Jessica Rabbit.
Use your head. You're comparing two original characters to one added to an ensemble decades after its prime. Of course boomers are gonna complain more about Lola.
>Old Lola was a fresh archetype for the group that can shake up the dynamic.
Bugs was the only character who was into her, so she didn't add much to the overall show. and you know as well as I do she was thrown in so Bugs wouldn't come across as a homo to modern audiences.
>Pepe Le Pew as an example
He wasn't even the highlight of his own shorts. The cat was the one doing all the work.
You damn furries are the craziest

Original Lola needs a bit more proving grounds then Space Jam honestly, that film doesn't provide alot to work with. She's in the comics too but that's a different breed from animation gags.
I could see that Lola fitting into LT, especially if she matches the Betty Boop/Minvera Mink kind of role. If she's going to use sexuality she needs to be like Bugs and Pepe using sexuality and use it to build gags and situations to react to. Just being "lol hot" like in Space Jam won't cut it.

>use your head of course boomers will complain more

That doesn’t legitimize their complaints and if anything highlights their idiocy, not mine

>only Bugs was into her
Rewatch Space Jam

>shitting on Pepe
That’s your opinion. Who’s to say Lola wouldn’t have her opposition in a short format cartoon?

Sorry buddy, you’re not gonna just call me a furry like that means you have an argument.

This motherfucker makes me laugh like no one else can.. hopefully he gets into a couple of these shorts

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I can agree with this. Space Jam is a different take on Looney Tunes just as much as The Looney Tunes show was. I still stand by the opinion that Classic Lola is closer to a character that is fresh and would work well in the oldschool format than new Lola. Many people just SAY new Lola is better and Classic Lola is shit without thinking though, New Lola had a lot more time to work with. New Lola only works in the type of show The Looney Tunes Show was, not moving forward with the brand.

LOONEY TUNES?

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Wooney Tunes?

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L-L-L... L-L-L-LOO... L-LOOO... L... M-MERRY MELODIES?

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Super duper Looney Tunes

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it has a john k influence but without the worst parts of his style

>That doesn’t legitimize their complaints
It makes the argument that "u no lyke cuz prood" a load of crap, and that's all you really got
>rewatch space jam
You first. Bugs was the only character in the movie courting her. 99% of her gags revolved around him getting horny around her. The other 1% was some girl power shit.
>>shitting on Pepe
Well, yeah. He's not as bad as Tweety but he's not exactly a Looney Tunes staple. Fifi from Tiny Toons has more of a modern fanbase than he does and no other character from that shitshow eclipsed their LT counterpart.
>Sorry buddy, you’re not gonna just call me a furry like that means you have an argument.
I'd never do that. I'll just call you a furry because you are one.

Disgusting opinion.

Boomers being hypocritical has nothing to do with my correct stipulation that the most hate going towards Classic Lola is derived from fear of female sexuality being funny.

>courting her
The goal posts are a-movin! Plenty were attracted to her.

>continues to shit on a classic character
Hey that’s what you believe, he’s still beloved.

>muh furry
Not an argument.

Let’s reword it. How would New Lola work better in a real Looney Tunes setting? Riddle me that one, Batman.

>when Clampett and Tex Avery are "John K influences"

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>He doesn't like TLTS
Cringe

Don’t pretend like you don’t see the Spumco influence in the OP. It looks very 90’s.

>Looney tunes has a John k influence
>John k
>influencing looney tunes
you wanna re-read what you just posted bud?

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I think it’s more to do with the fact that Zoom Zoom Only likes that incarnation of Looney Tunes. It’s good, but you’ve gotta look at the real deal.

Hey if you can’t tell the difference between the actual Looney Tunes style and Spumco’s in house style, and can’t see that OP is a middle ground I don’t know what to tell you. Ren and Stimpy influenced Cartoon Network so hard on that first wave, and the showrunner who did Uncle Grandpa definitely took influence.

I don’t want to give John K. Any more credit than you do, but the proof is in the pudding, amigo.

Maybe the background painting and shadow is throwing you off?

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You genuinely can’t see the difference?

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Here is Clampett for reference

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Now here is a John K.

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Of course there's a difference, the fingers and back have more anatomy than Daffy usually has, and the pose is extreme even compared to classic Looney Tunes. But I don't know if you can brand every extreme pose with more-detailed-than-usual anatomy as "Spumco style". It's true, those are Spumco (and more specifically John K) hallmarks, but the facial expression is 100% Clampett and the pose is Clampett-esque (pic related) so I'd say if you really want to see Spumco in this, it's 90% Clampett and 10% Spumco (anatomy, extreme pose of the back and neck)

If you wanted to make this more Spumco (or specifically, John K) you'd fix the silhouette. Daffy's left arm (our right) would magically align with his head to make a better silhouette for his beak, and his right arm (our left) would be extended straight so the silhouette of his butt would be clearer.

forgot pic related

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>it’s only a little bit
That’s all i’m saying. He’s got a bit of DNA in there, but it isn’t grotesque, which is good.

This bodes really well.

Funny that in this Clampett pose the arm is actually out of the way to show Daffy's butt. I guess even Clampett is more Spumco than OP's pic. But silhoette is really a Disney principle, so maybe user is just taking the bad silhouette to mean "90s animation".

>correct stipulation that the most hate going towards Classic Lola is derived from fear of female sexuality being funny.
Dude, you yourself pointed out () that nobody complains about Jessica Rabbit or Betty Boop, who also use sexuality for humor and were/are legit sex symbols in American culture. So how can you insist people don't like female sexuality in gag cartoons? Maybe they just don't like Lola.
>Hey that’s what you believe, he’s still beloved.
It is false, even Speedy Gonzales is more beloved.
>The goal posts are a-movin! Plenty were attracted to her.
The others said "Wow, she's hot!" but that was it. they weren't into her like Bugs was. The LT cast aren't crossbreeders no matter what your disgusting fanfics say.
>How would New Lola work better in a real Looney Tunes setting?
Honestly, the best option would be a happy medium. A hot scatterbrain who tantalizes men and either is clueless about their affections or scares them off with how fucked up she is.

If you could sum up 40s Disney and WB cartoon style in one word it would be "silhouette".

Lady, if you don't find a rabbit with lipstick amusin', you an' I have nothin' to say to each udda

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The extreme pose and rubbery back and fingers, as well as the slightly exaggerated head and neck feel very Spumco to me.

>He doesn't like Pepe le Pew
This board sometimes

but you're ignoring the exaggeration in everything
not just the extreme pose, but the exaggerated facial expression. His face and head shape look identical to

Maybe people are just uneducated?

>even speedy gonzales is more beloved
Hey, if all you’re doing is shitting on classic characters to make classic Lola seem less applicable i’d say that’s a pretty good sign i’m right.

>The others said wow she’s hot
So you concede that she can effect the other characters? Good.

>The best option would be a happy medium

Wew, I unironically accept your concession. Thanks for playing.

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it's about that specific daffy
You might want to re-read again

do yourself a favor and watch some Tex and Clampett cartoons. Christ.

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Do YOU have these kind of balls

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>Maybe people are just uneducated?
Uneducated about what? Look, either viewers hate female sexuality in cartoons, or they don't. You admitted they don't, so that can't be why Lola gets hated on.
>Hey, if all you’re doing is shitting on classic characters to make classic Lola seem less applicable i’d say that’s a pretty good sign i’m right
not shitting on Speedy, per se, just telling it like it is. In the hierarchy of LT characters he's pretty fucking low besides his popularity with Mexicans.
>So you concede that she can effect the other characters? Good.
Acknowledging someone is attractive is not the same as lusting after them, friend. Thinking otherwise is what creates weirdo shippers.
>Wew, I unironically accept your concession. Thanks for playing.
Well, after you killed your own argument, I figured I could throw you a bone.

>this level of cope
Haha

The argument is the hate for Lola comes from uneducated retard prudes who don’t even really watch cartoons. They don’t know Jessica Rabbit or watch Red Hot Riding Hood or Betty Boop. You can simultaneously be an anti sex prude who hates Lola AND not bitch about the classic characters.

>not shitting on them

You’re backtracking now. You downplayed Pepe because it makes Lola look good. Admit it.

>acknowledging someone is attractive is not the same as lusting after them

You’re splitting some serious hairs here, you got caught. The other toons (including the crowd later in the movie) think she’s hot. Her sexuality and how others react is part of her character.

>I figured i’d throw you a bone

Not only that, you conceded the point that a Lola Bunny moving forward would work better utilizing her sexuality like Classic Lola, admitting defeat.

You tried to save face but it’s just getting embarrassing now. Unless you have something better i’d suggest dropping it.

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God dammit. Talk about Looney Tunes and not some mediocre character who most likely wont even be in these new batch of shorts.

After the last thread I'll take people talking about Lola

Would be sick if she was though. Clampett Lola could be a lot of fun.

I just skimmed through all the episodes and that never happened.

A wacky Lola would be dunb. 1 Daffy is fine.

I agree, she would be Sexy Lola making the boy(s) wacky, not Wacky Lola.

I'm with you.. I'm an oldfag and I still laugh heartilly watching this.

The Green Loontern is the best version of Daffy no other version of Daffy can compete.

In other news, John K. has finally been reduced to this as of two days ago. That’s right, he’s charging for lewds now.

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>splitting some serious hairs
>hare
You had one job, user. :^)

He's been confirmed with some others

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:^) out fucking played

Cool.
I wonder if Cecil Turtle will be evil like in TLTS.

>that Bugs
We’re going really Tooney this time. We’re going home.

I hope not. I like how extreme TLTS made him evil-wise even with the threatened killing but that isn't the character. The way he was originally is how he is, and that's the era they are striving towards with these shorts

Reminder Tina make this personaly work better
Sorry if you are a GODAM FURRY and cannot accept the truth

Does anybody else feel that the style of Chuck and Friz's cartoons are really stiff when compared to Mckimson's shorts

Not an argument bucko, and the fact that you immediately turned it into sexual depravity proves my point.

>The argument is the hate for Lola comes from uneducated retard prudes who don’t even really watch cartoons. They don’t know Jessica Rabbit or watch Red Hot Riding Hood or Betty Boop.
I know you're devastated about killing your own argument because now you've retreated into saying "T-they're not REAL fans anyway!" As if people who would even care enough to think about a 90s waifu character aren't huge toonfags to begin with. Come on son.

And if "prudes" who don't like Lola never watched old fanservice, why even bring up that "nobody bitches about Jessica and Betty"? They're not relevant to the discussion then, are they? But that tells me you're trying desperately to hodgepodge a new argument.
>You’re backtracking now. You downplayed Pepe because it makes Lola look good. Admit it.
We were talking about Speedy, now it's back to Pepe, huh? Here's the short version for you: Pepe fucking sucks, Speedy is cool, and both are low-tier in terms of LT popularity. You don't wanna use either of them to defend another character concept.
>You’re splitting some serious hairs here, you got caught. The other toons (including the crowd later in the movie) think she’s hot. Her sexuality and how others react is part of her character.
Don't be autistic. If the other Toons tried anything with her like Bugs did besides just say she was hot and leave it at that, you'd have a point. As is, the only character she had an effect on was Bugs. She added nothing to the overall cast in SJ.
>Not only that, you conceded the point that a Lola Bunny moving forward would work better utilizing her sexuality like Classic Lola
No, I said she would need to be a scatterbrain like NuLola for it to work. She wouldn't *use* sexuality, she'd just be hot and oblivious. If she was pure, self-aware sex like Classic Lola she wouldn't be funny at all.

>she would need to be a scatterbrain like NuLola for it to work. She wouldn't *use* sexuality, she'd just be hot and oblivious. If she was pure, self-aware sex like Classic Lola she wouldn't be funny at all.

Not the o-p you're debating with but I could see this working. A kind of hybrid-Lola could have potential.

>implying retard normalfags don’t know spacejam
>implying most cartoon fans aren’t plebs who would know The Looney Tunes Show more than Red Hot Riding Hood

>why would you bring it up

To showcase how uneducated and pleb you Anti-Lolafags are.

>We were talking about Speedy

You shifted away from Pepe to avoid this confrontation and I called you out

>Pepe sucks

I revert to my original statement. You’re shitting on classic characters to make Lola look bad.

>my opinions say these characters aren’t beloved so please don’t use them!

No.

>don’t be autistic

Right back at you. You said here: the only one who was into her was bugs. Now you admit that is false. Multiple characters go gaga for her. Your stipulation that they didn’t go gaga enough is arbitrary and irrelevant to how her character was applied in the film, and how she would work in a theoretical continuation.

>n-no she’d be dumb about it

And yet the shorts themselves would center around her sexuality, making her Classic Lola in structure but slightly ditzier. You’ve conceded, and I accept your concession.

As an aside, no, she wouldn’t be dumb to have it be funny. Weaponizing her sexuality or not able to keep boys off her is also funny as seen by classic characters already detailed.

Ready to give up?

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did I just post a nipple shot? Dammit.. i'll see you all after my ban expires. :-/

Based and bunpilled. (You know you can delete posts, right?)

I do now. :^) Thanks..!

>Came in the thread because I love loony toons
>50% of the thread is people arguing something about lora bunny, furry etcetc.

why.

Because Anti-Lolafag won’t stop trying.

So are they putting them on Youtube?

“Will be released digitally, on mobile and broadcast”

Kinda vague, but okay.

>>implying retard normalfags don’t know spacejam
>he thinks anybody remotely normal has even thought about Space Jam, let alone Lola Bunny, in the last 15 years
You, friend, are truly delusional.
>>implying most cartoon fans aren’t plebs who would know The Looney Tunes Show more than Red Hot Riding Hood
Well, that's bullshit. Zoomers aren't watching cartoons anymore, so they don't count. And there isn't a Millennial alive who didn't watch old Tex Avery shit during the 90s on CN.
>You shifted away from Pepe to avoid this confrontation and I called you out
I don't fear confrontation from a furry who manages to disprove his own narrative and then switches gears when caught.
>I revert to my original statement. You’re shitting on classic characters to make Lola look bad.
Pepe Le Pew is not a popular character. Never has been.
>Right back at you. You said here: (You) # the only one who was into her was bugs. Now you admit that is false. Multiple characters go gaga for her. Your stipulation that they didn’t go gaga enough is arbitrary and irrelevant to how her character was applied in the film, and how she would work in a theoretical continuation.
I admitted no such thing. Once again, saying "she's hot" is not "going gaga" and is not character interaction.
Did the scene where Bugs grows muscles, everybody stares at him in awe, and Daffy cheerfully comments on his shoulder muscles mean everybody turned into a fag? Of course not. Get a clue.
>And yet the shorts themselves would center around her sexuality, making her Classic Lola in structure but slightly ditzier.
Remember when I said () a major theme would be her scaring suitors away with being retarded/overly quirky? That would be the punchline, rather than the sexiness. Again, use your head for more than a repository of anthro porn.
Furfags are perpetual victims

>you’re delusional

Not an argument.

>zoomers don’t count!

They seem to shit on Lola plenty.

>and every millenial knows Red Hot Riding Hood

Ask five of your coworkers near your age. I’d be shocked if 1 did. They may /know/ Betty Boop but I can guarantee they’ve never seen a short. You know it, I know it.

>ur a furry

Not an argument.

>Pepe Le Pew is not a popular character

You know that’s false, I shouldn’t even entertain it but how’s 2.7 million views?: youtube.com/watch?v=1lsQfTaStcs

>I said no such thing

You said only Bugs was into Lola. Then you switched it to only Bugs PURSUED Lola. You got caught up getting shit wrong and now you have to defend your arbitrary cutoff for what is and isn’t attraction.

>When Bugs got buff and everyone looked in awe is that gay

No, being in awe of strength isn’t inherently sexual. Being stuck by attractiveness is.

>remember when (*covers ass*)

You posited her scaring off a suitor as a possibility. First of all that would just make her a discount Pepe which is less interesting than Red Hot Riding Hood or Minerva Mink in Looney Tunes, but second it also concedes the point that her sexuality would be integral to her dynamic as a toon, ie. the initial draw for the potential suitor, admitting that Classic Lola’s formula works better, and that new Lola would need classic Lola to even function.

>furfag furfag furfag

You know you’ve won when the other guy can only stomp his feet and call you names.

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>this thread

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I don't think the two men are black though.

I like the shorts based on famous real life hollywood people at the time. Seeing Groucho Marx and Petter Lorre always cracks me up.

not even
duck dodgers?

>The Great Piggybank Robbery
NEON NOODLE

It's one thing I'm not sure would work in the modern era

>not an argument
Why does TMSfag HAVE to be in every thread about Looney Tunes and/or John K?

Because Famicom/TMS Fag's autism draws him to these subjects like a moth to a flame. Just be thankful he isn't pretending to be a Warner Archive Insider again.

TMS made Lupin. Don't hate.

TMS sucks. They're a Japanese sweatshop assembly line animation studio that can't even afford air conditioning. And they did the worst-looking episodes of Hamtaro. FACT!

There's a difference between "TMS did X good shows" which is a perfectly reasonable thing to say, and "TMS were co-producers on Animaniacs and Tiny Toons and had creative input over stories and they're going to save animation" like TMSfag says, among other crazy batshit things he said, I think he said that Disney is going to reinstate TMS as Disney Japan or something at one point, I can't remember.

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Can we not derail another Looney Tunes thread with attention whore cancer
Please and thank you

Daffy ends up getting the short end of the stick too many times. I like the rare Daffy shorts where be actually wins.

>The spiritual successor of Loony Tunes was forgotten, and the franchise has retreated to formula.

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>the spiritual successor to Looney Tunes that was created by a Hollywood director with no animation experience, run by screenwriters instead of actual artists, focus tested by corporate executives for maximum marketing appeal and merchandise revenue, and referred to as "a retarded stepchild" by Chuck Jones himself.

Truly, it was the spiritual successor to Looney Tunes.

TMS's episodes of Tiny Toons were worse than Kennedy Cartoons' episodes. Debunk me, cocksucker.

This is the Looney Tunes Cartoon thread not your fighting an attention whore thread

>He thinks it won't be rebooted after Animaniacs

Tiny Toons were never a spiritual successor to Looney Tunes, and you can so clearly see that in the screnshot you posted with the stupid everybody-breaks-the-fourth-wall retardedness.

If anything they're the spiritual successor (or spiritual cousin) to Garfield

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I wish Boomerage would allow us to sort episodes by release date instead of just alphabetically and by character

That's from "Tick Tock Tuckered".

youtube.com/watch?v=siPKZzlEr7s

>a first run syndication corporate mandated half-hour merch commercial with animation outsourced to the cheapest oriental studios pennies could buy
>the spiritual successor to Looney Tunes

Ahh, I see you must be Famicom/TMS Fag if you truly believe that. Fuck off.

What part of "don't mention the attention whore and derail the thread" do you not get

Tiny Toons was overall pretty weak for a Spielberg cartoon and tended to have its own plot structure that had little to nothing to do with the rapidfire slapstick of the original Looney Tunes. I like it, but the Warner Brothers shorts of Animaniacs ironically feel like more a spiritual successor than TIny Toons itself did.

The Spielberg/Amblin shows improved with each iteration as the team figured shit out and got better at it along the way. Tiny Toons was the worst, Animaniacs was troubled but great in places, Pinky & the Brain was KINO.

And as ironclad proof that Tiny Toons was PURE SHIT, please remind me of what ultimately killed Pinky & the Brain? Oh yeah, that's right. Elmyra. A Tiny Toons character.

>I liked the Looney Tunes Show
what the fuck
>Not familiar with the shorts
oh that explains it

Who was the best Mel Blanc replacement?

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Art Davis is an underrated director

All have been disappointing.

Me

That wasn't Tiny Toons' fault per se so much as a retarded executive that was obsessed with Elmyra and tried to force her into everything. It was definitely the weakest though, and the quality did ramp up with each iteration. Freakazoid was fucking great too, wish it had done better so we could have gotten more.

No single actor has ever been able to reproduce all of Blanc's voices. But some actors are better at certain voices than others. My picks for best, though:

>Bugs
Jeff Bergman
>Daffy, Sylvester, Tweety, Marvin
Joe Alaskey (deceased, though)
>Yosemite Sam
Maurice Lamarche
>Elmer Fudd
Billy West
>Porky
Bob Bergen
>Pepe
Rene Auberjonois
>Taz
Jim Cummings

Looking at the list, Joe Alaskey was the best at playing the most characters. But he's dead now, too, so we're back to square one on those characters.

Looks like Clampett won out in the end, who'd have thunk it?

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I want to fuck Jim Soper's art style

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I enjoy the antics of daffy Daffy, but I also enjoy Jones Daffy as a foil to Bugs, but I feel like it's hard to get traits from both to mesh well together.
I feel like if he were as crazy as classic daffy while being as greedy and scheming as Jones he might just come off as loud and obnoxious

Will we get more crossdressing?
Will it give Yea Forums a boner?

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