Moon vs Dany

which queen was done dirtier?

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It's hard to say since neither show was ever good

I haven't watched much of GoT but wasn't it basically implied pretty early on that Dany was going to go nuts eventually

With Moon, while somewhat understandable given what she has dealt with throughout the series, it kind of comes out of left field given how she was acting early on in the season and had no direct build up

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Epic post, fellow NoEmmy Universe fan!

any porn of them together?

Dany's decent was obvious from season 3 onwards. They fucked up the execution cause they seem to have no concept of patience or effective build-up without Martin laying down the groundwork, but she was heading to crazy town from the onset.

As for Moon, haven't the latest episodes established that she is a ruler and a queen, to her very core. Even without a title, people flock to her and she even has a castle again. She's more comparable to Jon in that way.

They even kind of look similar

Dany was always kind of cruel and eager to burn everything, it was her black friend and that old dude that died in season 6, that ussually talked her out of burning everything.

Moon is the one that got it worse, there is an episode where she explicitly says she doesn't want to help Mina and she does it anyway for a cheap surprise.

If I hate Star Vs why would I like that SU shit

There's nuts and then there's retarded.

She should've just burned the soldiers who surrendered instead of everything. That would make some sense, be in character and show her going crazy. But then we wouldn't ger the horse Jesus.

Like I said, they botched the build up. Its clear they wanted her to escalate. but couldn't give us a proper gradual descent into madness. Burning two noble that surrendered then jumping to burning down a large city is poor execution.

Again, her descent was telegraphed, all the way from season 3. They fucked the landing, but that's true of the season so far.

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Even with proper buildup it just goes too far. At no point previously she is hinted capable or willing to do that. Even Cersei wouldn't do that unless it was to save her own skin and there was no need to attack anyone in the city after ballistas were burned, at that point the way to the castle via air was clear. There were many ways to show moderate amount of cruelty that would be more than enough to shatter the perfect savior image.

This while I'm almost certain Danny will go mad in the books too there's not enough build-up for something of this level yet. Hell most of Danny's crazy in the books is mostly a pattern of Well Intended Action>Bad unforseen consequence>Massive overreaction

Which is why things like killing soldiers who surrendered, demanding immediate coronation despite populace starving possibly while displaying Cerseis body, executing people for spreading info about Jon, demanding people give up their property "for the poor", letting her dragon, which she never seemed to have trained in the first place, to eat people, letting her soldiers go pillage the land as long as they targeted the "rich" so merchants and other regular people. All of those would give people more than enough reasons to call her cruel without making her look like she fell from the dragon on her head at some point.

I could see her burning down the army as well as the castle Cersei is hiding behind, no matter how many people are in it or around it. The whole city was a bit of a stretch. At least with what we've been given of her in the show.

She's more capable than Cersei of massive cruelty. The rows of crucified nobles attest to that. What she needed was her very own 'shame, shame' moment(not the same, just conceptually similar) that would have her view them as just as despicable as Cersei. Something that would have her hate them, and it doesn't even have to be as much as Cersei hates them even. They would just need to be in that same mental space(or thereabouts) she puts Cersei and the Masters in. The mental place she slots obstacles to her righteous ascension in.

The same sense of entitlement that had Cersei blow up the church would have Danny burn the whole city down. Of that I am fucking sure. While not as overtly petty, Danny is leagues more wrathful and volatile than Cersei ever was.

is Dany even truly mad? her dad was delusional, he literally heard voices and thought being burned alive would turn him into a dragon. he did not have a grip on reality. Dany did what she did out of grief and to utilize fear. A tyrant, not insane. But maybe the next episode will go all in on Mad Queen.

The writers don't understand the difference.

yet here you are pathetically posting in this thread about shows that you've apparently never have liked, absolutely wasting your life

She burned an entire fucking city down out of anger and grief, just cause she could. She's gone headlong over the cliff. there's no walking that back. Whatever happens now, all she can do is try to mentally justify it to herself, and descend even further into madness. That, or she simply can't(I doubt it what with her messiah complex) and breaks even faster.

I've never experienced love. I've had flings and crushes like any normal person, but never love. I don't care to. I hate the thought that every show, movie, or game has to have some sort of love interest because I just don't think it matters.

But Starco is different. Every time I see them together, I feel happy. Every time I run out of episodes to watch I fall into a depression.

I don't want the show to end, but nothing can stop it from happening now. This is the end. I can only hope the ending is satisfying enough to fix me.

Starco is too pure. I don't care about love, but even if I did I seriously doubt anything I experienced could ever be so beautiful.

I'm not going to make it bros.

These fuckers are planning something, I know it. They've been subverting too many expectations.

I wonder why they hate people who like classic hero's journey stories so much.

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Even if Daenerys' breakdown was somehow rushed a lot of people saw it coming from the earlier seasons. At the end of the day she was a foreign invader who intended to take the throne with fire and blood.

Moon's turn feels a lot less in character and wasn't build up at all

>Even if Daenerys' breakdown was somehow rushed a lot of people saw it coming from the earlier seasons. At the end of the day she was a foreign invader who intended to take the throne with fire and blood.

They went over the top with it though, without giving her a motivation to do so. Dany was always brutal, but she was an extremist rather than a mindless butcher. She massacred people because it was either needed to win a battle or because she thought they did something to deserve it. Having her just be increasingly unhinged about it and seeing ever more minor things as worthy of death would be one thing. But burning a city she's already conquered to the ground just because she can?

Despite how disappointing the last season of GoT is, it still was good when GRRM's plot is involved in the first few seasons.

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>GOOSH GOOSH

She had the slave owners nailed to the cross despite pleas from even former slaves to have them taken off. And before that it was burning the witch who got raped by her army. Every instinct she had from a slight was cause pain.

If you can't even keep a city of former slaves happy and on your side, then you have 0 chance of running of an actual kingdom.

>a slight
She crucified the slave masters for crucifying children, only Hizdahr pleaded for his father to be removed. She burnt the witch who killed her child and lover and made her barren. Much more than just mere slights, you could make sense of her "justice."
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>If you can't even keep a city of former slaves happy and on your side
The situation in Meereen wasn't easy to handle, the Sons of the Harpy weren't easy to deal with. I don't really see what troubles Dany would have had if she had just taken the throne as her first move in Westeros instead of farting around at Tyrion's request.

>I've never experienced love
>Starco is too pure
Yeah, that checks out. Only an idiot who's never experienced love would think that about Star and Marco's "relationship".

First post, best post, although Star was probably more appealing than GoT

What Yea Forums related characters would go full mad king/queen if pushed over the edge?

I feel like characters like star butterfly and Lars are good characters that would do something like this if pushed far enough

Wait if the solarian swords exist why did moon even need eclipsa in the first place?