Why did people dislike these films ?

Why did people dislike these films ?
I think they're comfy

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I remember liking these, I liked when Ben crumbled Johnny’s car into a ball

I thought Evans played a good Johhny

Were you even alive when the first one came out? Try watching them again, they are traaaaash

Because they take comic villains we really like and make mediocrities of them.
Transforming Doom into "generic corporate douchebag" is bad. Not Trank-bad, but still an awful take.

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I forget what his powers were, were they just electricity or magnetism?

They aren't good, but they are somewhat enjoyable.

IMMA WEAR THIS PLASTIC ARMOR AND SWAG VEST HOODIE TO HELP ME CONTROL MY ELECTRICITY POWERZ!

Electricity and his skin was turning into metal.

He became the amazing batteryman.

Gotta admit, that does sound kind of lame, but I guess it’d be hard to to fit exactly what Doom can do, especially considering it was 2005 back then. I remember him stealing the Silver Surfer’s power though

Good
>Chiklis as Ben
>Evans as Johnny
>Ben/Johnny banter
>Really most everything Ben/Johnny I thought they did a good job with them
>Gruffudd decent as Reed

Bad
>Every other fucking thing

I put these on exactly the same level as Shazam!

Alba looks plain weird as a blonde.

>Gotta admit, that does sound kind of lame
It was, but he still has a moment when he was giving a monologue to Mr. Fantastic after finding the "weakness" in his rubber powers.

And it's WAY better than Fant4stic's Doom. At least this one had a master plan that he slowly put into motion.

It has merit in naked Jessica Alba

Not even the DCEU could conjure up a villain as awful as Doomachev.
Though they made several good stabs at it.

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Julian McMahon does a good evil megalomaniac.

I think only Catwoman has a worse villain.

They were popular

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They gave me my bimbo fetish, so they get points for that.

At least they gave him more time to shine in Sliver Surfer.

Yeah they brought him back after they fused him into being immobile because some guy just found him and used an angle grinder to get all the metal off him.

So dumb.

i like them better than the mcu

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By "comfy", I'm guessing you mean "I was 8 when I watched it"

That's the implication, yes.

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Bad Doctor Doom really.

They sucked, but Thing and Johnny were good bordering on great. Especially Thing. His storyline alone makes the movies eons better than Fan4stic.

Movie Johnny had more of a personality than comic Johnny at the time.

I think the casting was good, comedy moments involving Johnny and Ben where good, the dude who played Reed was good but everythng else about the movie is dumb and terrible

Also how can you fuck up Doom, is he really that hard? he's a dictator from a made up country

Films were extremely enjoyable, especially the second.

Unironically MCU shills trying to shit on every old superhero movie so that people think that whatever they end up releasing is better.
Same thing happened with the Raimi Spider-man movies which are objectively better than 90% of the MCU.

They chose the right guy to play Doom but they failed him in the script

They're nowhere near as fun as Shazam.

They arent bad, just powerfully mediocre. They took a family of super science adventurers who fight a tech-wizard and basically just tried to remake Raimi's Spider Man, down to Doom pretty much being Green Goblin.

They cast a nudist as Sue and didn't give her any naked scenes

>he didn't see the movie

She looked good in the first movie.

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Also good:
Silver Surfer
Galactus as an introduction (should've been a building-sized dude in a chair at the centre of the hurricane).
Ring scene in the bridge

I know that compared to Fant4stic they're not that bad, but they really aren't that good either. My chief complaint is how they handled Doom.

WTF was up with Galactus as a cloud?
Do it proper of leave it to those who can do it proper

Alba didn't make her clothes invisible.

>johnny suddenly black
>not adopted anymore
>'hey check out the white girl and black man together, SO PROGRESSIVE'

Virtue signaling = bad

Also thisFrom /pol/

Sue should have been naked throughout the film

>nudist

>movie about a team of superheroes
>first movie is about them trying to get rid of their powers for most of the runtime
>second movie is literally Su forbidding Reed from trying to prevent the apocalypse instead of focusing on a wedding

Probably a shout out to Ultimate Galactus with the eldritch abomination thing

>"Let's just redo what Raimi did with Norman Osborn. No one will ever notice."

>Su literally exists either to be a bitch or get naked

What was the point of Johnny going supernova anyway? If all they needed to do was melt metal around Doom, does he really need to get THAT hot?

The first one was alright.

Second one had good ideas but wasn't pulled off well.

I've only watched four MCU movies and I can assure you that the two Fantastic Four movies are shit.