What went wrong with it? Was it Disney meddling? Waifufaggotry? Sequel trilogy tie-ins?
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It was a bit sanitized for a war, which was noticeable coming after Clone Wars. All the stories were in sequence from beginning to end, instead of skipping to the interesting arcs how Clone Wars had done. Short version, it just wasn't quite as good as Clone Wars.
Filoni being Filoni, but having a reduced budget.
Well yeah, Disney actively killed The Clone Wars because it was too dark and violent for their corporate outlook.
>Seventh Sister owns an evil black imperial bikini and has been practicing for the big volleyball tournament, but you will now never get to see it thanks to Darth Maul.
It was mostly killed because it was airing weekly on a Turner station.
It never hit Clone Wars levels of consistent quality, but it did have high peaks. And it was comfy. I miss them, lads.
I wouldn't really say anything went wrong. It was maybe a bit unambitious but on the whole it was just kind of middle of the road.
Chopper killed a lot of people.
Chopper knew what the ladies wanted.
She wasn't Barris. For some fucking reason.
It was CGI
>What went wrong with it?
The same stuff that was wrong with TCW: it was an interquel that tried to leave a footprint that was bigger than the surrounding story could support. The difference is that TCW had plenty of self-contained stories and arcs that sustained its quality as an overall action-adventure cartoon whereas Rebels feels tired from start to finish.
no green buttchecks
Curse you Maul!!!
Studio pushed way too much humor into quite a few episodes.
I actually really like it though, they had some great character arcs and I thought a pretty solid final act.
Who was the best Rebels waifu?
HAIL MANDALORE!
Delicious Green
The empire isn't really a frightening enemy if they never win, and no characters like Ventress and Grievous to give us some perspective on them(at least not in the level the CIS got).
Hera
Because that would provide closure, and interesting perspectives on the battle between barriss and ahsoka.
This. Honestly, in TCW, the Separatists got away with so much crap for a side with like three competent generals at a time, that they were genuinely intimidating. The defoliator, the ion cannon, the entire Zygeria sequence etc.
Meanwhile in Rebels, Vader seems genuinely merciful by only choking people occasionally due to how often the Empire fuck up.
The only really point of major contention that could have been genuinely disturbing was the revelation that the force personifications kinda survived, which makes me side with Kreia a lot when you realise they have the power to turn people to the light and dark.
Seriously, how many billions/trillions died while the Daughter watched Darth Vader in her damn Fursona? Was it really necessary to drop exploring this, in order to make room for time travel retcons? And what's the point of letting Ahsoka survive as a "both sides are wrong" gray forcepriest, if she canonically does nothing for the rest of her life apart from look into the sky disapprovingly?
Apathy is death, you lekku topped bint.
They tried to get the audiences caring about the new protagonists when in reality only anyone cared about survivors from the Clone Wars.
Ezra has a mess of a character arc and every time he seems to be developing as a MC his growth is stunted (not exploring the Holocron and sith ideologies while still being a designated protagonist, dropping that shit at the beginning of the new season).
Mando Chick had leaked plot armor before Rebels came out and had virtually no character for 60+ person of the series, before experiencing some really rushed Mando tie in.
The portrayal of the Mandos in general were inconsistent and equally shitty as their portrayal in Clown Wars.
The gave the Imperial character least deserving of a redemption arc --- instead of the myriad of sympathetic Imperial characters that all died horrible deaths in a comic relief or handwavey fashion --- an undeserved "happy ending".
Bad writing plus Lucasfilm/Disney cucking Thrawn and his potential
never forget
1. Ahsoka needlessly being in it
2. Ahsoka Detracting the main cast by her presence
3. Ahsoka getting OC DONUT STEEL items
4. Entire plotline around Ahsoka and Vader
5. Wasting said plotline for 1 fight, where neither one dies
6. Not killing her in fight mentioned in 5.
7. USING FUCKING TIME TRAVEL TO SAVE HER
8. Have her survive post OT, which detracts Luke building the Jedi again, and her relationship with Anakin
9. STILL not giving her unique character traits
Im starting to sense a pattern here....
too bad under reflection of ingame stats, Ventress is a more powerful character than Rebels Ahsoka
they tried to make the cast way more important than they should be
fuck time travel and fuck space whales!
bariss is coming
>thinking RPGs are actually anything to go by
>those spoilers
Oh wow, I really shouldn't watch the final season. i'd just get mad.
That's what Ahsoka wants yes
>thinking grey force users are canon
>he doesnt know the Books are considered canon, and the Statlines for characters represent their power level in canon
>For example Sheev and Yoda have Force Level 8, and no other character comes close
whos that cyclops?
was resisntance cancelled? I just remembered it exists
What a fucking waste of a good character.
Minister Tua, like most characters in Rebels, deserved so much better.
Honestly after the Sequels + everything in CW/Rebels, Kreia's criticisms are even more vindicated now than they were at the time of Kotor 2's release, and it's telling that her criticisms of the the Force, the Jedi and Sith have never been meaningfully rebuffed or dealt with, avoided or ignored.
No, its apparently pretty okay
Certainly doesnt make attempts to stand out
Needs more episodes with best waifu material though
There's a lot of good parts to it, but a lot of divisive parts as well.
>waifu material
>on #current_year
Complete garbage. Even lego star wars can be taken more seriously.
>thinking the force is some kind of power level like its DBZ
Originally Pryce was going to be introduced first, die, and then Tua would supplant her.
But they decided to flip that around when the episode went into production. So we almost had a series with Tua as an ongoing character
It really isn’t that bad honestly
>thinking its not
season 2 is in the fall
Second sister from Jedi fallen order
when force Cthulhu and the other gods are around sure
>Seriously, how many billions/trillions died while the Daughter watched Darth Vader in her damn Fursona?
The wolf wasn't the Daughter.
>What went wrong with it?
I was talking about the Owl.
If Disney did not buy Lucasfilm, and Rebels came out 2 years later, it would have been better. In every way. Fite me.
the daughter was both ahsoka and morai the convor
we will see more of this when ahsoka and sabine go into the unknown regions in a book or a show to try to find Ezra but will run into abeloth and Ahsoka will call her "mother"
>then gets eternally trapped/absorbed/whatever
I would be pleased
does anyone still care about Ahsoka? or ever cared about Sabine?
People only care about ahsoka because either
A. They're a retarded Waifufag who cant see that shes actually pretty fucking bland
B. SJW-Type with "muh strong female character"
C. Both of the above
Ahsoka is borderline Mary Sue who REEKS of OC Donut Steel
Abeloth kills ahsoka then chills out until snoke and sheev's games are done then rules the universe
we only care for her for her meetings with the twins and abeloth . Sabine is only worthy of care if Ezra isn't plowing a chiss by the time they find him.
Dammit guldan
behold, a youtube guy
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Wait, what the FUCK happened at the end of Rebels? Oh god they brought Ahsoka back and didn't kill her off for good?
Yep
Turns out fucking TIME TRAVEL was used to save her from the malachor temple exploding/being cut down by vader
Then she just apparently fucks off for 5 years in universe time and is alive post RoTJ
Having watched the show and paid attention, I don't need to watch a review.
worse, Erza could have saved his master. Ahsoka is like, saving my ass is fine but save the closest thing to a father you have would be wrong even it would be pretty easy
To be fair they did explain in the episode at how he cant save Kanan because Kanans death prevented him from dying, meaning if he saved him, he would cease to exist
However
>How does Ahsoka know this?
Its a complete asspull, and REALLY ruins the series, and ahsoka in general for me
>To be fair they did explain in the episode at how he cant save Kanan because Kanans death prevented him from dying
I call bullshit on that, their ship was far away when the explosion hit Kanan, even it was last second they could still have saved him. Fuck Ahsoka, she died on that fighter with Vader, the one now is just a zombie
>Fuck Ahsoka, she died on that fight with Vader
That's what should have happened.
>Erza could have saved his master
Yanking Kanan out while he's the only thing keeping the rest of them alive would've gotten Ezra killed before he entered the world between worlds, leading to an even greater time travel caused cluster-fuck.
...
I don't think Vader's up for fucking these days, user.
It wasn't bad by any means. The biggest killers were the reduced budget and toned down violence. It was never TCW level, but it had some very enjoyable moments. The end of Season 2 was straight up off the rails and every scene involving Thrawn was gold.
Also, it reunited Lucius Vorinus and Titus Pullo. Someone at Lucasfilm obviously liked Rome.
Watch the episode again, user. Their ship was far away because Kanan shoved it clear.
and I saying they still had time to save him after he did that. Heres a question for you, when Kanan cut his hair yout thought "that man gonna die" or it was just me?
could find the episode but I found the clip, yeah he couldnt save that guy, they were to busy watching him die instead of flying away
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Ahsoka became fanfic tier unkillable and powerful and it ruined the show.
Thrawn was reduced to a generic bumbling villain who let them escape again and again.
The main characters were shit other than Hera and Kanan
I'm still mad
>Then she just apparently fucks off for 5 years in universe time and is alive post RoTJ
I suspect that they intend to tell that story in some other series or book. They'll need a damn good one to explain why she had no part in the Rebellion during all of the OT. Five years spent on Malachor scavenging parts to put together comms or a ship isn't going to cut it. Five years on Mortis might, but it would have to be a mind bending story.
I was so fucking mad when Tua died
>the Rebellion during all of the OT
Bitch didnt even show up in the new trilogy, and chances are she still alive
>Togruta had an average lifespan of 82 standard years. Those who were keenly attuned to the Force could live up to 200.
>and I saying they still had time to save him after he did that
He was engulfed in the explosion at that point.
>when Kanan cut his hair yout thought "that man gonna die" or it was just me?
To me, Kanan was a dead man walking for the whole series. I thought Ezra was too, for that matter. At least we know why Thrawn and Ezra were no part of the OT. Now I just need an in-universe reason for Ahsoka to be off the board.
>Sabine's mother won't let them all just group up and fuck Gar Saxon in the ass in a few moment because MUH HONOR
>Intervenes anyway after Sabine is about to be killed because she turned her back on an opponent who refused to concede like a retard
That's when my discontent morphed into full on autistic hate. Fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK
how many years have passed since the phantom menace until the last jedi?
Tuafags BTFO by Based Mommy Bigtits Pryce
gibe imperial milkies pls
...no
>it was intentional that they gave her massive tits
This is probably just my dick speaking but I liked Seventh Sister personality and dialog. She had the most development of the 3, kinda wanted Ezra to jump and defect Mauls light Saber to save her..
Ten years from Phantom to Attack, three years of the Clone Wars, 19 years to New Hope, four more years to the battle of endor
>liked Seventh Sister personality and dialog.
She and Ezra had shades of the dynamic that Obi-wan and Ventress had.
Plus one of Kanan's best lines, ""I don't go for crazy... anymore."
She was hot but she amounted to absolutely nothing.
:(
I don't see why, that sounds pretty consistent with the retardation Mandalorians have always had
Once you've gone green, you'll never feel clean.
Once you've gone orange, you'll...
...uh
shit
>you will never have a delicious green sex slave
why even go on living?
kek
Thrawn was always just
>The rebels outsmarted me again! But wait, the writers just slipped me a note with crucial information, I will use this for next time.
Where is upset tua 1?
something something door hinge!
Your thoughts will forever bare it, once you've fucked carrot.
I see now why she used that reverse grip so often, to cut down on people following too close.
I can only remember that happening maybe once, the other times it was made pretty clear why he was doing what he was doing.
This was a confusing episode, but at least Hera helped Ezra tap into his latent powers.
It backfired, though
Make a strong presentation, and many of your foes may flee in terror.
Around 68 years since The battle of Naboo
Never forgive Disney. I was planning on watching this show until I found out she gets EXPLODED.
All their female villains meet terrible ends.
But they did their damnedest to hint at redemption up until the end in regards to Tua.
>no Aresko and Grint
This artist should be arrested for treason
Too much emphasis on bitches. Kanan and Ezra could have carried that show without the Twi'lek super pilot and the fake Mando eating up all the screen time.
>Vader removing thots before that infamous comic
That was hinted too
>What went wrong with it?
Nothing
>that spoiler
Look at Onderon arcs in TCW. You’ll find TCW versions of Lucius, Titus, and Niobe as BG characters. Onderon is essentially the Rome of the Star Wars universe.
but user, Sabine was everythingerong about Star Wars Rebels.
There's no reason they couldn't have brought it over or at least finished what was already in production. They killed it because of how dark it had gotten as time went on with clone horror/war movies and that one thing with Ashoka beheading a lot of people
In a show that at the end of the day is marketed towards kids.
>Remember Sabine saying in her character video before the show came out something along the lines of "this is gonna sound weird, but this helmet is like... My face."
>Down as fuck for that shit
>Never really comes up in the show and in actuality doesn't wear her helmet reasonably often
hmmm
I can't believe how racist Ezra is
I liked it.
Maybe things would have turned out better, if she could have found a bigger hat.
It focused too much on a group of characters, without jumping to different perspectives. It didn't work for the show because every episode had to be part of a larger story, but rarely did any of the episodes do anything meaningful with their plots. The actual plot was saved for the start of the season, the mid, and the last few episodes. Everything else tended to be filler, which sucked.
>tfw no band of rebels who are off doing the dirty work for the rebellion, getting killed off one by one.
>tfw no stormtrooper stories about heroism from a different perspective.
>wrong with it
First two seasons were terrible
Third season was incredible
Fourth was a whole lotta nothing
I really tried to give this a chance but I just couldn't bother after the episode where the golden stormtrooper or whatever betrays the pirates and "rescues" the chick. I was waiting around for the boomer racer getting his episode or anything interesting to happen.
>Non lewd
more like 'need more lewds'
>clone wars
>Consistent quality
Come on now, even in the final season we still had stuff like the droid arc and the borefest that was the onderon arc.
Ill agree that rebels never hit the high points that clone wars did but consistency was one of the few things it had going for it. And by that i mean it was just mediocre the whole way through
LUCASFILM ANIMATION!
HIRE. THIS. MAN!
Maybe if she didn't have the hat at all she would've been fine
>Being anti-hat.
I don't even know you anymore.
>most black women in Star Wars join the Space Nazis
What did they mean by this?
>guys
You saying Tua and the SS have dicks?
But kids love that shit.
>Death Star has a designated hat day
>the place blows up
Clearly hats are the greatest danger to our imperial officers
Such a waste of a character
>spoiler
ep?
>does anyone still care about Ahsoka?
Lots of people do. Ahsoka's become one of the most beloved characters in Star Wars.
>or ever cared about Sabine?
To a mild extent.
>You'll never get a season in which Ezra and SS must reluctantly team up.
>if they actually capitalize on Ressureccting her we could see Ventress vs Inquisitors, or Ventress vs Ahsoka post RoTJ
Would be more hype than Cleganebowl
I don't expect any more Rebels, but maybe she will appear in the new episodes of Clone Wars. She did have some incomplete footage from some unfinished episodes.
Any news on the quest to find Ezra?
When Star Wars inevitably has to reboot we'll see her again.
Since Thrawn hooked Ezra up with a harem of Force sensitive Chiss navigator cuties, Ezra doesn't WANT to be found.
>She did have some incomplete footage from some unfinished episodes.
Which was adapted into pic related. You're not gonna see Ventress in the show again. The story to her final arc has already been told.
>When your future self tries to warn you that your master is evil, but you miss her message because you spent the whole time admiring how long her lekku were.
Most of Star Wars is shit and the only way to derive enjoyment from it is to selectively ignore the worst.
“Imperial Super Commandos”. They don’t interact much. Keven McKidd as Fenn Rau and Ray Stevenson as Gar Saxon.
Even though Sabine is by far one of the worst characters, natural haired Sabine is cute.
And then they fucked
No user. If she were to touch her future lekku, it might stunt their growth and they won't turn out right.
They should get married.
I will eternally blame the space aladdin.
The little shit is so cringe worthy that it saps all enjoyment out (what little there were).
Also smaller but still linked problem is the Jedi-wankery. Yes, yes it's a Star Wars, so there are going to be Jedi-wankery, but it wasn't this bad in clone wars. At lest there they were trained by the order so it didn't feel too bad. But here the space aladdin just breezes through with help from former padawan and reasons. I don't think I would go as far as to call him Gary Stu, since the little shit keeps being a little shit but it's close.
And about jedi-wankery, one(1) jedi would have been enough for the group, and I would prefer it to be the not-Ezra, since he has atleast some dynamics going on with the twi'lek whore. Ezra just feels so tagged on that I have a feeling that he may have been added later in production than every other character, it just feels like the group would be in a lot better balance without him and would work just fine.
>tldw; a goy is assmad that his twilek wife didn't get more screen time
Oh no so that's how it happened
>when he says he's not in the mood tonight
>Disney
>2008 tier 3D Animation
>Boring characters
>no stakes
>best episodes revolve around a character from the OT or TCW cementing that Rebels will never be good on its own
>Space Aladdin
>kid jokes
It's all David Filoni. Without a hundred million dollars budget per episode, he can only make lackluster shows.
It's a bit milquetoast compared to Clone Wars.
>It's all David Filoni, he can only make lackluster shows.
ftfy
It's George Lucas' birthday.
May the 14th be with you.
Look at the excitement on his face. The pure joy. That is a man who is truly letting out his inner child.
Also today is my birthday, too.
Happy Birthday, user
He shouldn't have sold his inner child to slavers, user.
If he was going to sell Lucasfilm, he should have just given its ownership to someone else or another company. But then again, if it was given to someone else, we would all just complain about its direction like we do with Kathleen Kennedy.
He’s probably at least happy the Star Wars he wanted to make is done and over with. He accomplished something that was made with his vision in mind. Since he has so much backlash from fans, selling it so he can rest from the franchise is for the best.
>the Star Wars he wanted to make is done and over with
He'd started production of his own sequel trilogy and had 3 seasons of Clone Wars left to make when Disney blackmailed him into selling.
>Disney blackmailed him
with what? Did they find his jungle-fever porn stash in a sand dune somewhere? George can live comfortably with 4 billion dollars.
George donated the cash, half of it was Disney stock.
But corps don't and anything that risks a .01% or above profit loss is unacceptable.
It was okay when it was a rag tag group of individuals going on adventures in the Star Wars galaxy.
Then it became an extension of Clone Wars with half the CW cast hanging out doing the exact same thing as in their show.
Then the main case became the most important group of heroes ever with the new leader of Mandalore, daughter of the previous leader of Ryloth, ultra powerful jedi, and they blow up at least 1-2 Star Destroyers a week. That one crew on that one ship did more damage to the Empire over two seasons than the rebellion at Endor.
>Golden
Please spare me the read, how did this end?
What the fuck is even the point of this show? Nothing ever happens for 99% of the whole damn show. It's just random wacky hijnks with some guy on some ship on some ocean and nothing matters. It's only Star Wars because the title card says so. no adventures, no fighting, no real plot, no fucking outer space.
Filoni didn't have George feeding him ideas
I'm going to laugh when Barrissfags buy a shitty game just to get BTFO again
>Golden
It's technically Katie Lucas' story. Dark Desciple was adapted from scripts from TCW. Had Lucasfilm not opted to cancell TCW, this would've been in the show.
>Please spare me the read, how did this end?
Quinlan Voss and Ventress fuck, Voss almost falls to the Dark Side, Dooku kills Ventress and Voss and Kenobi lay her to rest on Dathomir.
She got killed by a firing squad
I mean, heroes in fiction always progress, that’s one one of the golden rules of stories. They go from small to big-time eventually. However, the characterization needed work. Hera’s progression makes sense, so does Kanan, but the rest of the crew should have stayed small time and not be handed some sort of leadership/elite role. Sabine should have been rewritten to be just a low-ranking Mandalorian from a small clan and nothing else. They gave her way too many traits(Mandalorian princess, tech genius, artist, punk girl) for her to be a believable character.
>Had Lucasfilm not opted to cancell TCW, this would've been in the show.
It also would have gone on for eight or twelve episodes. While it looks fun in theory, it could have turned TCW into the Ventress/Vos soap opera for a long while.
Happy birthday!
Jedi and sith are my favorite part of the star wars universe, and they had no place in rebels. It should have just been about forming the alliance, none of that "jedi in hiding" crap that cheapens Luke's story.
Based and laidpilled
The Empire won in the S2 and S3 finales
Hey, thanks guys. I'm surprisingly touched by anonymous well wishes.
Have some Daddy/Daughter bonding.
Happy birthday, user
This. There was no winning. If he'd kept it, people would bitch. If he sold it, people would bitch.
>no adventures, no fighting, no real plot, no fucking outer space.
I mean, I agree that it's not a great show and doesn't really add anything, but all of those are things that actually happen on the show. They actually go out of their way to find excuses for Kaz to join Poe on missions out in space.
I'd like your thoughts on the revelation of the true villain of episode 9.
>the new trilogy is from the GoT guys
Well glad that's settled. I'd rather have their trilogy than Rian's (which hopefully is cancelled) though I'm still not really enthused about it. I'm more curious about that third live action show they just announced.
Darth Vader Hates Sand.
But he loooooooves his little girl.
Sexually?