Wake up

No, it is not actually.

Between the sex-swapped heroes who share the same name as the existing ones, saw writing, LGBTQ pandering, and “diversity”, unironically pales in comparison to this level of writing.

Anyone who whines about "pandering" is a tourist /pol/tard

It really does. This is pure born unadulterated character assassination that possibly can never be undone unless you pull a Parallax level style of retcon.

Ask for an autograph, I'm a big fan of Men in Black.

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It is. The Stacey kids showed up post BND.

Get startled, then ask him if he's Tommy Lee Jones or Osborn. If it's the former, sock him. If it's the latter, tell him he's one of favorite characters in comics, and he should just kill that Parker moron already.

jump off the op of the Brooklyn Bridge

Holy shit it's sandman!

>Be a rule 63 isekai as Gwen Stacy while Osborne is getting you super pregnant
I guess being tossed from the Brooklyn Bridge is a mercy killing at that point.

haven't showed up post secret wars. Though were they ever directly named? Closest we ever came to seeing them was that post siege book with a dude looking like the boy busting norman out of prison but I don't think they ever brought him up again

This is like if Joker fucked Catwoman

What did Norman ever do to you?

>Gwen as a lesbian
I bring a gift
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Don't give these hacks any ideas.

Nah, he'd get some dog themed superhero/villain to fuck her for funnies

I don't understand the reactions, Gwen's importance rose only after she died, so what if she fucked Norman?

they retcon blue to say that her and peter never had sex, in the pitch JMS wanted them to be peters kids and editorial didn't like how much it would age up peter. I always thought the story line would've worked as a spider-girl story but they want to suppress her for some reason so whatever. At the end of the day the story line only came about because Queseda was getting a divorce and wanted to shit on all women.

It's funny too, since Gwen is actually having some mainstream popularity now for the first time in years, they can't actually retcon it for fear of drawing attention to it and potentially scaring off new fans who otherwise didn't know.

People liked Gwen, so it's completely understandable why they were upset when JMS (though moreso Quesada) decided to dig her up and piss all over her grave by retconning her as a terrible person.

accept it, there's no way I could fight off the Green Goblin

Didn't he do that in TDK?

Just retcon Sins Past as a rape and your problem goes away. The Goblin kids and Gwen tricking Peter into raising them can just be explained as painting Gwen as pro-life, but also understandably scared.

There we go, Gwen's image isn't tarnished and Norman is reaffirmed once more as an evil psycho. Problem solved.

>People liked Gwen, so it's completely understandable why they were upset when JMS (though moreso Quesada) decided to dig her up and piss all over her grave by retconning her as a terrible person.

How old are the people who are so angry about this? Gwen had been dead for decades, and only the story where she dies was kept in print.

they've continually reprinted all of spider-man from the beginning to her death. She wasn't popular among normies but she had her place of respect amoung the fans and comic fans in general

why didn't he rape Peter tho?

IMPRESSIVE

It's not that people love Gwen so much, as it's just plainly a badly written character assasination that came way out of left field. It reads as a boneheaded attempt at a cheap twist.

What about people who like Norman and don't want him to be a rapist? Kids love the Green Goblin and buy toys of him. Don't make him a rapist.

People have bought toys of Loki, Dormammu, Red Skull etc. and we all know what they've done

Considering all the evil shit that Norman has done over the decades, is him being a sexual predator really all that out-of-character?

He always comes off as rapey and the interactions have a sexual undertone to them

Norman Osborn is an American Hero and a Skrull War veteran.

>We all know what Dormammu did

Not want to bargain?

Conquer dimensions with all that implies

are you Brad Meltzer?

Not at all.

Gwen being a cheating turbo slut that gets pregnant and attempts to hide having two children while Mary Jane is fully aware of it and never tells Peter or anyone else is fucking whacko though.

This. It is no different from what the fuck happened in Identity Crisis and good lord knows how many C-List to D-List characters were ruined thanks to this hack

It was over 10 years ago now. As it stands, it ruins a character that's been dead almost 50 years, retconning it in a way that ruins a character that's still alive is not a good solution.

>anyone who reads comics is a /pol/tard
Then explained why they all fucking failed spectacularly.

I never understood his hair. They look like corn rolls or something but he’s a white business man so I don’t get it

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bite the pillow

>mfw Gwen came back after Sins Past
>Gwenclone#24601, alternate dimension SR388 whatever, who gives a fuck anymore nobody can keep track of it all anyway
>Gwen told Peter the last thing she felt was betrayed because she somehow always knew he was Spider-Man which is bullshit and he never decided to tell her
>Peter didn't call her out for dying full of goblin serum
>Peter didn't mention the kids
>Peter didn't mention the letter
I'm never going to get my catharsis am I?

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Except they didn't fail. Jane as Thor for example was very successful despite all the whining. Newer IPs failed because the market has been rigorously taught to not buy anything new.

go back to sleep. Cape Comics are retarded, news at 11.