Woody’s Price

I've seen quite a few toy exhibits, especially seasonal ones. So one as historic as Woody would probably be a good set.

$2,000 just for Woody sounds about right without the box.
He was being sold in the complete set so the number was a lot higher for that premium deal so it was probably worth the quick trip to Japan.

Probably quite a lot. He was an early 20th century icon in the TS universe. If everything all went to plan and all four of the Roundup Gang were clean/pristine and sold Al probably would've gotten at least a couple thousand.

Al asks for an extra 0 to be added with a mint woody being included. That would imply the price for the whole set was either under $1000 or now worth over 10,000 possibly 100,000

Probably as much as his real life counter part. ranging from 150 to 250 dollars.

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He's in used condition, doesn't have the packaging, and even had to be restored after his arm fell off. Considering that, for example, vintage 1964 G.I. Joe figures sell for like a few hundred bucks, $2000 for this Woody seems reasonable.

But it’s not just the trip to Japan, he also shipped the entire set there overnight, which allegedly cost a lot because he asks if it was in yen and then claimed he was being taken advantage of.

The set of wood and his pals might increase the value being together enough to warrant a plot for this movie

If we assume a last minute round trip to Japan would be about $1200(being conservative) and the overnight shipping would be about $500,
Then at minimum the whole set would need to be significantly more than $1700 to be worth Al’s time.
Then there’s the cost of Geri’s restoration, which could not have been cheap.

>package autist
ugh

Andy's mom said Woody was an old family toy so why does Woody only seem to remember his time with Andy?

Maybe he was in storage for a long time before he was given to Andy, he forgot his first kid

The Mike Mozart interview alleged that Woody was owned by Andy’s father who looked identical and was also named Andy(explaining the pictures in the wall in the first movie) and that after getting polio as a kid, Andy’s dad locked him in a box in the attic for decades, making Woody think it’s the same Andy.
However, this interview was discredited by Pixar

>discredited by Pixar

I still like it, personally.

The reason he was so rare and valuable was because you had to get all the other toys and send off for a Woody doll by mail order. That and the show's cancellation meant only a few of the dolls were ever made, far less than Jessie and Prospector. Woody was the Buzz Lightyear of his day, way more popular than the toy companies expected and they made too few of them to meet what demand was there before the space race killed it.

This is the actual canon explanation, more or less.

People are used to different creators using different canons in capeshit, and I'm fine with that being the principle for fiction in general. Especially with an IP that has a lot of cooks in the kitchen and repeatedly changes those in charge of its "vision".

That was not the canon explanation, that was Mike Mozart’s explanation, which Pixar officially came out to say was false.
While the idea that woody was a mail in cereal box prize makes sense(the show was intended to sell Cowboy Crunchies) the sheer popularity of the show makes it nonsensical. There was just too much merchandise made too quickly for a woody toy to not have been in development. The radio, record player, the plates, those make sense as mail in cereal prizes. The snake shooter, the yo-yo, and the bubble blower were likely in the box prizes as well. But you can’t expect something to get so massively popular that it makes it on the cover of Time Magazine and Life in the 1950’s, have a mountain of merch, and not have the most popular character have a circulated toy.
Prospector sounds like he would have been the most rare since he spent years on a dime store shelf and never sold, his character was likely the least popular and no one probably bought them. So a mint in box stinky Pete would have been the real prize by our world standards.

You're forgetting about troph of despair, wooody would have been popular before the speculator market would have really been around, everybody bought one, hut they weren't buying "one to open, one to sell" they were buying one to play with, break, and another after that. All the woody's would have been bought, played with, sold several times over, broke their voice boxes, lost their hats, and just plain thrown out eventually. Woody would be invaluable because almost none of them were left in working condition, but Andy's woody worked like a charm

That’s a far better explanation and one I intentionally left out.
Hell, Al was even going to pass because he didn’t see the hat at first

Yeah, I really have to question the logic of having your main character as a mail-away promotion where you have to get all of the others first. Even for a toy company looking to get kids/parents to buy all of the secondary cast, putting your star behind that kind of promotion is basically shooting yourself in the foot.

Hell, if anything Stinky Pete probably would've been the mail-away. Not popular enough to sell on shelves, but just enough demand out there that anyone who really did want a complete set of the cast could send in for one.

Well. There are some examples to where it made sense.
Woody & co would have been a very high quality toy for the ‘50’s. And most premium toys like that were mail ins.
So theoretically if all four cost $2(almost $20 today) plus 10 box tops, you have a perfect storm for rare toys

Funny enough, IRL hatless woodies can be found for pennies in thrift shops but complete ones do fetch at least most of their msrp

Mail in toys like that didn’t really exist in the 50s. Collecting a set of toys to get and exclusive one was pioneered in the 80s. Mail in toys before that were mainly stuff like decoder rings or props.

Toys don't seem to dwell too much on past owners when they have a current kid to fulfill their purpose of being played with. Woody and the others dont talk much about Andy when they are with Bonnie.

but in toy story all the toys are sentient, even the ones sid fucked up

Cinemasins said it best

It was very clear that Al didn't receive the money yet from his investors and the investors weren't going to send him the money until their shipment of novelty Woody collectors items made their way to Japan but even then we never know just how smart these investors are

Collecting is a niche hobby namely just because of how autistically hyper specific it is. Like even with the best patch work in the world they should have been able to see that Woody was already exposed to air particles and his value was already worth less then nothing the only reason he's thrown in is to complete the set

>Mail in dolls didn’t exist in the 50’s

That was the most common way to get big toys in non-urban areas

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That’s incredibly retarded, cinemasins definitely said it. They know nothing about collecting and reselling
Air tight packaging for toys wasn’t a thing in the 50’s, and toys in much worse condition sell for high amounts depending on age, rarity, and notoriety.
Woody was a phenomena, he would have stayed popular enough with boomers who grew up with the show to spend tons on him. Especially if he was complete.

Cinemasins has no idea what they're talking about. The Woody toys are over 50 years old. The odds of a boxed one surviving that long are slim to none. Woody was in obscenely good condition for his age: He still had his hat, a working voice box, and no cloth tears that weren't seam rips. It's VERY likely that it's the best condition Woody that's known to still exist. The buyer presumably doesn't care about the minor restoration Al did on it because they're display pieces.

Also, the buyer was a museum in tokyo, not s private collection. Museums restore their pieces all the time