Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?

Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?

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Well, sometime in the 1970s, this up and coming director called George Lucas made a film called Star Wars. It was dumb as shit, but was revolutionary at the time, so it of course became massively popular. Two sequels followed, and the now franchise eventually became a cultural institution.

This would've been fine, except Star Wars was--and still is--dumb as shit. So whereas it started at merely serviceable quality, it soon enough devolved into being outright trash.

Sure, there were a few entries(such as KOTOR, and The Clone Wars) that would attempt to inject some dignity into it, but it's hard to fix a defective product. Seriously though, fuck Star Wars.

She didn't die

>Actually has ZERO unique character
>needs to fuck off and die already
>ruined TCW S7
>Waifufags insisting shes so great
> Adult Ahsoka gets destroyed by Ventress in the FFG Star Wars RPG

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Wait when did ventress get stats?

Not enough orange buttcheeks and sweet clementine pussy.

Rise of the Separatists, released the other day

>better lightsaber damage
>better stats
>better adversary level
>gets all the force powers ahsoka has, and the new one (Force Bind)

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Sweet I've been waiting for that book

the character was always shit

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They decided to use an OC togruta instead of the vastly superior established one.

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why she didn't become as cute as Shaak-ti?

Nothing. Orange pussy is best pussy, and I can't wait for her and Ventress in BF2.

dang thats some propa killy stats.

I have a mechanic running 4 brawn and brawl. Even with 4 yellow I feel like im weak though.

Don't remind me.

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shaak ti is ulimate mommy

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So hot Disney had to retcon the EU to get rid of her Felucia outfit

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Did she /ss/ with any clone cadets?

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She is great character for young girls.
Somehow boys love her too

Never happened

>somehow boys love a sexy alien

Was there a poll or something?

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Anakin did't drop Padme for Orange Buttcheeks

Nice quints but that would be a mistake

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>t. Trekkie

Ahsoka is sturdier. Padme goes all cadaveriffic after a light force choking. Betting her ass falls off after some light spanking.

Believe it or not, what went wrong was:
— Clone Wars was not allowed to conclude on its own back, instead of getting cancelled by the Mouse
— The shit trilogy got produced, meaning anything that follows Clone Wars connects and leads to it

Ahsoka > Padme, not even a contest. Padme is fucking natalie portman for fuck's sake, gross

Who would play live action Ahsoka?

Emilia Clark

Good decision. Thats the kind of outfit you would expect from a slut, not a monk. She doesnt need to show so much skin to be hot AF.

One Jewisher than the other.

good god why was her design in rebels so shit

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Because Rebels shouldn't have been made at all. The only good thing in it is the death of Darth Maul, it was written so well. The rest is a mistake.

man, they really made her hideous in rebels.

It was the style. Rebels designs aren't great in general. And outside of being recognizable, Rebelsoka doesn't even really look like the original, particularly in the face.

They were told not to make any of the females sexualized in Rebels by Kathleen Kennedy. So they exaggerated the blockiness and gave them SJW stuff like Sabine's tumblr hair and QUIRKY personality

Got proof?

they tough that making her a space hobo was a good idea, also fuck time travel

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I maintain Vader needed to kill her. I think it would have been a fitting end for her and Anakin's story. It still kinda bothers me to this day. I also hate there being other Jedi (granted I know Ahsoka and Ezra aren't exactly Jedi) besides Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Luke during the OT era, but I guess I just need to live with it. Still, I'm curious what their plans are for her going forward.

Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father’s exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems. Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars, and once in a while we’d even have the entire 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half. It was surreal. We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.

This, unironically.

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t. Rich Evans

Is Rebels better animated than Clone Wars?

No, not remotely. Clone Wars had the benefit of Lucas funding. Rebels doesn't look terrible, though. Just not as nice.

Rebels wasn't still funded by lucasfilm?

No. Not even close.

Clone Wars had George Lucas kicking in extra out of his own pocket. Rebels had Mickey Mouse funders.

Why would George Lucas care about animation? Wouldn't he be more interested in creating the movies?

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Clone Wars fleshed out the story from the films. It was his passion project at the time.

What movies? He made his last SW film before TCW started.

oh

they refused to give her the obvios best ending, second best ending is death

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Anakin running off with Ahsoka would have saved the galaxy.

I never liked Ahsoka, she was always a shit character just like every other Disney creation, I hope she fucking gets her head cut off

She wasn't created by Disney

Rebels was shit

wasn't george the one who originally came up with the idea for anakin to have an apprentice while RotS was still being made and they were planning TCW?

>they refused to give her the obvios best ending

what?

Disney created all of the animated shows except Genndy

Clone Wars started long before the Disney acquistion, user.

the CG Clone Wars was created by Lucas Film before Disney bought it, rebels is disney thou

>aaahcktually...
Oh fuck off, it may not literally be a Disney show but it's pretty much exactly the kind of shit Disney would make

It's okay to be wrong, user. Digging your heels in is just going to keep calling attention to it though.

Kiss my dick, Disney shill

>pretty much exactly the kind of shit Disney would make
helicopter lightsaber

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She didn't get killed off.

>fuck off I know I'm wrong but basically I'm right ok?
lmao

Is there any female SW character who wouldn't be improved by ending up as one of Jabba's slaves as their final fate?

They fucked up the moment of her leaving the Jedi Temple. She blames herself for the council refusing to trust her rather than blaming the council for their obvious failure to realize they were set up.

That arc should have had some conflict where the ones backing Ahsoka were future imperials like Tarkin and Yularen during the trial because she's a useful fighter. Then when the truth comes out and she leaves she'd work for the republic as a spy or something until she realizes, too late, that she's taking orders from Sideous and fakes her own death during order 66.

I say this as an Ahsoka fan but yeah, she probably should have died. Honestly it stank a little to much of creator pet syndrome, despite Filoni killing nearly every other female character like he was Tarantino he couldn't even properly kill off Ahsoka's ex girlfriend

How exactly is the animation in Clone Wars good?
>inb4 Lucas money

>was in the original Battlefront 2
I don't remember that.

Its not really nor is Rebels really any worse, the stylized 3d can take some getting use to but it usually only takes a few episodes.

Leia, because her choking Jabba to death with the chain he was yanking her around with was a perfect encapsulation of the character.

You for got completely ruined in one book died so cheesily its actually funnt

Hera

It tried to look different, and succeeded. George specifically wanted to mimic the look of Thunderbirds.

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That was unused CW material novelized.

Goalpost moving

A little late, but I think retards need to be piled on to learn.

>le feminist hero
Fuck off

She and Kit Fisto were DLC exclusive for the XBox version. She looked horrible.

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Incorrect. hera as a slutty slave girl is peak final fate

>Hera has spent her whole life trying to defy the natural fate of all Twi'lek females, and at last learns to accept that she was born to be a slut and please fat overlords until they tire of her and feed her to a monster

she was horny the whole series

check them numbers!

perfect

Who gives a shit, Star Wars is dead

It's not like that's a secret. The guy whore a shirt saying "ashoka lives" on it or something

Being braindead doesn't retroactively change reality to fit your retarded opinions, user.

Being a shill who can't stand it when Disney is called on their bullshit doesn't make you a fan

I hate the Disney shit, but the Clone Wars was simply not made by Disney. It started airing in 2008 and the Disney buyout was in 2012. Please tell me this is your first attempt at being a troll, because you give them a bad name.

>oh no he made me look stupid
>better call him a troll
I bet your kike masters think you're doing a good job

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>retarded
>also a /pol/tard
It all comes together

I'll have you know that Mickey knockoff is Palestinian.

>Hamas Mickey
>Jew

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They inserted a character into a narrative where in the most important parts of said narrative, the films, she was never mentioned or even alluded to.

Used to think this bitch was Shaak Ti, lost all interest the moment I learned she's some cartoon cutout

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>time travel

Explain.

It's like I'm really in 2008 again!

By this logic there should never be any books/comic/games because they cover things that aren't in the movies

I should have added more. Being Anakin's apprentice, the CHOSEN ONE™'s apprentice, the first apprentice under someone not having the rank of master would be something worth bringing up in Episode III. Especially during that "We do not grant you the rank of master" scene, you'd think that would be brought up even as a point against him since she left. I do know TCW started after III was made but it just seems like a weird hole to me.

>the first apprentice under someone not having the rank of master
Except you don't need to have that rank to take an apprentice. Obi-Wan was a knight when Anakin was his padawan. This isn't even a retcon, we've known that since Episodes 1. Obi-Wan took Anakin as his padawan immediately after being promoted to knighthood.

Shit, it's been a while since I've watched TPM.

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Hell, the EU at one point stated that training a padawan to knighthood was how you attained the rank of master, which would be impossible to do if you needed to be a master to train a padawan to begin with. I think the idea was abandoned when ROTS implied there were other ways of being promoted, since Anakin assumed being on the council meant an automatic promotion.

about to fill their boipussies with the dark side if you know what I mean

Yeah, you get the rank of master by training a padawan to knighthood. Or at least that's part of the requirements.

Retroactively, the council not giving Anakin the rank of master is like a double insult since they're basically spitting on Ahsoka again in front of Anakin.

Yeah, that also required a retcon to Ki-Adi-Mundi's EU story. He'd been established as just being a Knight and not a Master, and since it was now implied that being a Master was a requirement to being on the Council, they had to retcon it so that Ki-Adi's Masterhood was "in process."

But Ahsoka never progressed beyond the rank of padawan, she left.

space Aladdinn used time travel to save ahsoka

Pantorans are superior

True, but at the same time they explained that Ahsoka's whole framejob fiasco was actually her trial to become a knight. Sure, it was a cheap way of trying to save face after they threw her under the bus and was offered more as an apology for what they did more than anything else, but it does say a lot that they were ready to promote his padawan to knighthood but still won't grant him the corresponding promotion to master.

But even that has another side to it since they knew Sheev pushing them to put him on the council was a political move, so they handled Anakin's appointment with political gloves.

I never understood why they made him a knight rather than a master. Is Yoda teaching him still canon?

So far no, the only confirmed padawan for Yoda is Dooku. But they also haven't said who trained Ki-Adi so it could still be Yoda, but I kind of doubt it.

This

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How I long to stroke Chuchi's dick...

Get out fag

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To be fair before 2008 she wasn't exactly the pinnacle of beauty

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>not finding the beauty in Chuchi's erect and eager member
Philistine

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Perhaps I will return when you've realized to appreciate the finer things in life

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>Gregor and Kallus are Eskimo brothers

*ahem*

At this point, Ahsoka is a lost cause
Her character was built to be an extension to anakins story, and she has no unique traits of her own, her character is literally a generic do-gooder jedi, who only "evolved" because of her presence around Anakin and Obi-Wan

Now that either of those characters are no longer around, it means her character is a lost cause, and would not be able to hold any show on her own, in addition to not having an actual character goal

Keeping her alive was a genuine mistake, they should have killed her off

Now shes going to ruin TCW S7 with 8/12 episodes dedicated to her, 4 of which are pointless filler
Shes A main character, not THE main character

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>never actually watched tcw but skimmed a thread once

Didn't use superior Concept Art version

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It’s pasta, user.
I personally prefer a spiced katana pasta, perhaps seasoned with a dash of John.

Then tell me, when you remove plot points and unique items, what makes Ahsoka unique from other Jedi?

oh wait she actually isnt unique in terms of her character and has the generic do-gooder jedi personality

When you remove plot and uniqueness from any character, what sets them apart from anyone else?

Is there a better possible end?

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Character traits

E.G Anakin is a Hothead, Yoda is wise, Mace Windu is an Asshole

Ahsoka has no such traits that seperates her from other generic jedi/padawans

> Sheev tries his "suck my sith and you will be able to save Padme!"
> Anakin doesn't give a shit

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Which clone legion had best boys?

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501st > 212th > coruscant guard > everyone else

Ahsoka is Reckless.

No, that's also Anakin

Would Ahsoka be able to Defeat Jar Jar as He is a Slth Lord?

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She is far more reckless, since Anakin throws himself into dangerous situations knowing that he can power his way out. Ahsoka does it because she THINKS that she can. It gets her ass kicked constantly.

>women aren't allowed to do anything ever or it's feminist propaganda
Fuck off

Literally Dave filoni's waifu.

>She blames herself for the council refusing to trust her rather than blaming the council for their obvious failure to realize they were set up.
She didn't help her case by breaking out of the prison in the first place.

this guys get it

Plo's bros

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212th

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this

Ahsoka was originally going to die, and did die, attempting to save Anakin from the darkside and bring him back, refusing to leave him again. They fought, and the MC of rebels escaped with the artifact, with the scene ending as the temple collapsed and only Vader walking out.

Later in the series, through Force/Time Travel shenanigans the MC actually sees the battle, and how Ahsoka is losing. Instead of letting fate be fate, he pulls her through A PORTAL IN TIME and we see her as a monk of the force in the future.

>and only Vader walking out.
Liar. We see Ashoka wandering into the depths of the temple at the end of that episode. We don't see how she got there until S4, but it was always possible that the collapse separated them while injuring both.

for me, It's Luminara

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the only way the ST can be redeemed

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The jedi did have a lot of DSL equipped members.

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Disney erased 30 years of warlords, Thrawn, Rogue Squadron, and dozens of stories great, good, and bad, and replaced them with a gaping wound. Pic related.

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Disney would never create the Zygerria storyline.

>Disney erased 30 years
Good. Acceptable loses happened for the best. The extended universe was 99% dog-shit, and if disney left a gaping wound, at least it's not festering like it was before.

Is that back when she was going to be 11 before they convinced George that was a bit too far down the child soldier ramp?

>The extended universe was 99% dog-shit
Wrong
>Acceptable loses happened for the best.
Except we haven't seen a single piece of media set in the post-RotJ era in the new canon that has been even okay. It's been 100% shit

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I can't even imagine being this fucking retarded

Ha! That's great.

Kek

>be me
>think the post-ROTJ EU is dogshit
>it's erased
>replaced by a different dogshit
I've lost absolutely nothing

I'll re-canonize Echuu Shen-Jon someday. Mark my words.

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Why though?

I will work my way into Lucasfilm and recanonized Abeloth

>I will work my way into Lucasfilm and recanonized Abeloth

He's seen in Solo so he's already canon.

>Abeloth
>he
Fake Disney fan detected

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I want to hold her hand

Because I think there's a lot of potential in both his story and in Reath's post-Clone Wars.

>new EU stuff sucking means old EU was perfect
there was a LOT of bullshit around the gems, I mean I always fucking despised the Yuuzhan Vong bullshit and it was such a major event everything set afterwards had to deal with it

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Yeah but the old EU at least had gems in it. The new EU has nothing that rises above "kinda okay".

You'd think more people would be better at programming, since so many are such binary thinkers.

The expanded universe had a much higher percentage of good works than disney canon, which has basically nothing outside of the books by Gray and Zahn. Luceno did okay, too. Everything else has been abject trash, even media that Star Wars was usually strong in, like video games. I'll be generous and say 10% of it is worth reading/watching/whatever. The EU had about a 50% return.

>exotic teenage alien apprentice

>teenage alien

A Y Y L M A O

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The second Vader comic is absolute kino and there've been some pretty good novels.

Wait when did this happen? Was that a deleted scene?

Yes. Shaak Ti was originally going to have gone in ahead to rescue the Chancellor, and Anakin and Obi-Wan were her backup. When they got there, Grievous had already defeated her and executes her. This would've actually been a plot point, since her death opens up a spot on the Jedi Council which Sheev then tries to fill with Anakin.

Since the scene was deleted, Shaak Ti was spared and can be seen on the Jedi Council. A second death scene for her was filmed, but that one ended up being cut too. IIRC the EU killed off Oppo Rancisis and that retroactively became the council vacancy that Anakin fills. In nucanon, I don't think the council vacancy has been addressed yet, though Oppo is confirmed to have survived Order 66.

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but which canon is she barefoot in

other problem is we're comparing
>EU that has literal decades of stories
to
>EU that is 4ish years old
which is a bit unfair honestly
not saying the new EU will get better, they as of now haven't had the same ready for lore expansion gap episodes 2 and 3 had for instance, but still

There's definitely potential. It feels like the best new canon stuff has all been OT focused tho, like Vader's buddy cop comic.

I think a serious problem for them is that they were very heavily banking on the Sequel Trilogy becoming as beloved as the OT to the point where people would be clamoring for new stuff centered around it, like Resistance or the Poe Dameron comics. But since the ST is basically already dead in the water now they have this huge investment that they don't know what to do with. They can't just stop making Resistance despite literally nobody watching it.

>they as of now haven't had the same ready for lore expansion gap episodes 2 and 3 had for instance,
They had the entire time between ROTJ and TFA. Look at what they put in that gap, crap for the most part.

Just recanonize this and the best part of the old EU will be back.

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>ROTJ and TFA
I haven't watched the new trilogy but even so that'd basically be
>peacetime rebuilding and political bullshit
right?
I can certainly think of shit you can put in there, but it's not quite the same as
>gigantic intergalactic civil war that in movies we only see the beginning and end of
I mean there's also the difference in EU gatekeeping between Lucas and the Mouse

What does your heart tell you?

It's not unfair, because the new canon has all the previous stories to learn from and is largely fucking it up. A good portion of that is they're handing the IP to the wrong people, like EA and Wendig, who are retarded and/or blinded by current monetization trends. But even someone like Zahn can only do good work, not great, because the current timeline is fucked. Disney can't escape the gaping 30 year hole they created or the retarded political climate of the sequel movies.

>I mean there's also the difference in EU gatekeeping between Lucas and the Mouse

Man I have heard so many takes on this. I wonder what Lucas really thought about the EU stuff

The timeline isn't causing Zahn to do mediocre work, his own overzealousness is doing that. The first Thrawn book was completely fine, the second one suffered from the lack of a compelling character like Eli and it just being Thrawn and Vader interacting with zero chemistry.

He liked some of it, but never considered any of it official. Oversight was tighter in the early days but by the 2000's he'd basically just let the EU do whatever and minimal oversight. It stopped bothering him because he knew none of it matter. People forget that Lucas was already planning on having the EU dropped when he was planning the sequel trilogy. Then he sold to Disney, and they ended up doing it instead. Now people blame Disney for doing it for the sake of shitting on George and wanting to erase every non-Disney work, despite the fact that Lucas was going to do exactly the same thing before Disney even got involved.

Hell the first Thrawn book was better written than the Thrawn trilogy because he'd finally figured out that showing Thrawn figuring things out made him much more interesting than just saying he did and using his deductive and analytical skills as a deus ex machina.

The EU was soft canon. It was all considered canon until Lucas decided otherwise. The benefit was that authors could do what they wanted essentially and Lucas could canonize something if he liked it and would get royalties regardless. Disney could have at least kept it that way instead of wiping it all away and replacing it with this fucking garbage

The key being that it's not actually the same. The Old EU being replaced is not something most people have a problem with. If anything, lots of people spent at least a few months guardedly interested in seeing what would replace it and how it would be structured. The hope was that the dead weight would be excised, and then we'd see our favorite characters retold and favorite story arcs cleaned up and canonized at the highest level. Rogue Squadron! Mara Jade! Thrawn fucking shit up, possibly on film! The web was abuzz with the idea of a new take on the Yuuzhan Vong that was less of a slog!

The issue is that it was replaced with a 30 year hole during which we have been told literally nothing happened. The war completely ended less than a year after RotJ, check back in a generation and a half of time!

Thankfully The Clone Wars did its best to canonize a million tiny things from the EU making sure they were preserved. Seriously, it's crazy.

>Disney could have at least kept it that way
That's literally what they're doing, though.

>The Old EU being replaced is not something most people have a problem with
A lot of people still haven't gotten over it. There was a huge shitstorm when the EU was dropped. Even Wookieepedia got hostile about it for about a year before they finally gave in.

>peace time rebuilding
That and free lobotomies for every capable rebel.
>I can certainly think of shit you can put in there, but it's not quite the same as gigantic intergalactic civil war that in movies we only see the beginning and end of
The only reason that there is no long running occasionally hot war post ROTJ in the Mickey Mouse version of events is because the Empire was posthumously torn down by its creator.
I suspect that happened because both Disney and the lobotomized Lucasfilm leadership both feared expensive comparisons to the EU and wanted to go back to the plucky underdogs vs. the big bad bad guys formula from the OT again, so they turned as far away from it as they could. They did their best to create a new post-ROTJ timeline, but, frankly, neither Disney's nor Lucasfilm's best is what it used to be.

>the post-ROTJ period is the entire EU
Look at this casual

Reminder she is a canon pedo.

With a big dick.

Excepting the Lego verse, Disney Wars is all canon, all media, all the time.

>It was all considered canon until Lucas decided otherwise
In theory, which is what the tier system was for. In practice it didn't matter because Leland Chee kept trying to make everything fit until he absolutely had no other choice. This led to bizarre retcons where characters were explained to be a father and a son with the same name rather than a single character.

No, I mean that they take from the old EU. Disney is operating exactly the way Lucas did, ignoring the EU and just canonizing bits and pieces he liked. This is how TCW worked, and it annoyed the fuck out of Wookieepedia for that reason.

>The EU was soft canon. It was all considered canon until Lucas decided otherwise.
There were two views on this. The official Lucasfilm stance, and the stance of Lucas himself. The two stances were actually incompatible, since the official Lucasfilm stance was that everything was canon, sorted by the tier system (where only certain works were deemed non-canon, usually older stuff). Lucas never considered any of it canon, soft or otherwise, and would contradict it numerous times because it didn't matter to him.

That came after we knew what was happening. Disney bought in November 2012, the purge occurred in April 2014. I'm talking about the year and a half in between, when we knew the EU would be getting overhauled, but not how much. It took that year and a half until we knew they were doing a complete wipe, during which time there was plenty of other bad signs to worry about, like the abrupt ending of The Clone Wars or the shuttering of LucasArts game development.

So yes, you prove my point that people lost their shit when the purge was announced, which goes against what you said, that people didn't care about the EU being replaced.

Opposite. It's most of the new Canon, and the part of the new canon that is universally shitty. They haven't done anything to actively fuck up, say, the Old Republic. It's not canon, but it's also not replaced.

>when we knew the EU would be getting overhauled, but not how much
We didn't know that at all. There was speculation in some places, but the purge announcement caught a lot of people completely off-guard.

>I'm talking about the year and a half in between, when we knew the EU would be getting overhauled, but not how much

>okay, we know the EU is probably gonna be purged and we are all okay with this
>purge happens
>HOW DARE THEY PURGE IT WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS
This is apparently what you think happened

Ahsoka was a nudist during the clone wars

Is anyone excited for sequel trilogy stuff anymore?

This is a vicious lie, Ahsoka would never do such a thing, you cannot post such slander without evidence. Plenty of evidence.As much evidence as you can muster. We must examine all of it to determine if your nasty accusations have merit.

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Not really, but I was never too excited about it to begin with. The ST is a big black hole of garbage but the rest of the new canon's been pretty okay.

Well, I remember it being expected, since it was so unwieldy. The most common belief I saw was that it would fit the pattern established by The Clone Wars, like said. Sometimes that meant Ryloth, sometimes it meant Interdictors.

I can't wait for it to end.
Hopefully they'll put more planning into their next attempt.

>next attempt

Ah yeah the OT remakes.

If you can't understand the difference between knocking down some walls to open up the space and adding a deck, and straight up tearing down all but one room and building a shitty new house connected by concrete slab patio, I can't help you and you shouldn't go into home renovation.

Damn this is sad.

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Well I mean you're the one who said people didn't care about the EU being replaced, and then said people freaked out when the EU was replaced.

That's the thing though, you can't just replace parts of it. You have to drop it all and rebrand, otherwise you're left with an even bigger mess where you have to re-publish books with footnotes saying "[1] this part isn't valid anymore [2] he has amnesia right now so he forgot he already met X character [3] this isn't actually Boba Fett this is Spar"

The EU was basically kept together with duct tape as it was because of how often things had to be retconned. There wasn't any way to drop parts of it and keep other parts.

>I'm talking about the year and a half in between, when we knew the EU would be getting overhauled, but not how much

Which, again, is you stating people were okay with the idea of the EU being replaced. That's what you said.

Honestly I think Yea Forums was one of the only places where people were okay with this idea. Most of us were TCW fans and weren't big on the EU at the time, and greeted the purge with excitement.

The rest of the fandom absolutely did shit themselves when it was announced.

Sure there was. It's not people exactly rioted in the streets when Ryloth stopped being tidally locked. We knew that, say, Han and Leia weren't going to be spry parents during the Thrawn Trilogy despite the desire for the new trilogy we were hearing about to work from that, and there was going to be some broad strokes. I remember BSG 2003 being floated as a comparison.

Overhauled and replaced do have different meanings, user; and they've even more different connotations.

>You'd think more people would be better at programming, since so many are such binary thinkers.

Okay, but here's what you said:
>he Old EU being replaced is not something most people have a problem with
You can't go "w-well overhauled and replaced are different things!" when you used replaced to begin with.

You say sure there was, but don't actually provide a way in which it could've been done.

I want an alternate universe comic where Anakin doesn't fall and Palpatine gets arrested. I want to see what would have gone wrong instead, and how much worse things would have been.

Picture unrelated.

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>have
What is present tense?

Is this really where we are? Using tenses now to justify your mental gymnastics?

Just admit you were wrong, dude.

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How? I'm asking you to provide an explanation. You just saying "yes it can be done!" isn't enough.

>Disney taking a shit all over the OG Captain Rex
Fuck this shit, I will never forgive them for this

That dumb shit clone biochip plot point.

There's no way around it, though. The alternative is that clones really are just that mindlessly obedient, which TCW went to great pains to show that they're not mindless. It's sloppy, but it answers the question of why clones who were specifically bred for independent thought all followed the same order without question.

Disney also put him in Star Wars Rebels and he'll be the DJ at the cantina in in Galaxy's Edge at the theme parks, with Paul Reubens doing the voice for him again.

>dumb
honestly they humanized the clones so much in TCW that it was really hard NOT to handwave away the betrayal as uncontrollable.

It was bizarre the way the EU tried to depict them as being basically organic droids in the early days. Around the time of ROTS they started to kind of shake that idea, but for a few years the clones were basically just drones to the point that ARC troopers were explained to be clones that were designed to think independently... which was weird because in AOTC the Kaminoans specifically list that as one of the highlights of clone soldiers.

I have a tiny, very tiny, sliver of hope that Disney will rediscover their faith in their own creative abilities, then make some original SW movies set in a period of time that neither games, movies, nor books have explored before this.
I wouldn't put money on it, mind you.

So, not the past, present, or future. That works.

This isn't a writefag thread, and I'm sure as fuck not a writefag.. The question at the top is "what went wrong?" not "please describe in detail, how could it have been written right?"

In conclusion, go fuck yourself.

This is literally what the Rian Johnson was supposed to do. The Benioff/Weiss trilogy too probably but I don't remember them saying much about it.

Also do we know which of these two trilogies is the one being made right now?

>I didn't actually know what I was talking about but jumped into the discussion anyway, please don't expect me to back up anything I said
Okay

Hopefully a third option, because I don't want either of those

They wrote themselves into a corner by making the clones more or less regular people. The clones were intended to be the perfect soldier: unquestioningly loyal and obedient. Even the Kaminoans in the AOTC states explicitly they will follow any command without hesitation. They could have incorporated that part of them in their overall character if they had more foresight, but as it ended up, having them just naturally obey the order would have felt weird and out of place.

Have any of those done stories set before hyperspace travel?

I won't trust Rian Johnson to tell my niece a bed-time story, let alone put him at the helm of a new era.

>Even the Kaminoans in the AOTC states explicitly they will follow any command without hesitation
They didn't. They said they were more obedient than the original host, not that they were unquestioningly loyal.

youtu.be/z-g4YH-2X_k
Slave Leia is allowed again?

youtu.be/QmvSYHVhO80?t=170
>"They are totally obedient, taking any order without question."

She was never banned. The only source for that was J. Scott Campbell saying he knew someone inside Lucasfilm who told him she would be banned.

They've talked about pre-hyperspace era stuff but honestly it's not a very interesting time. Everyone would be isolated, travel would take generations, and there's no real conflict beyond the scale of a single star system.

>Leia video has a brief glimpse of her in slave outfit
>"disney won't allow that, this was something a BASED AND REDPILLED animator snuck in to spite them and they just never noticed!"
>"user I'm pretty sure they knew that was there"
>"WRONG DISNEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW THE SLAVE OUTFIT AGAIN"
>this video

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All I can say is that we have different ideas about interesting settings, user.

Speaking of which, does that new Dooku audio thing answer whether the Kaminoans knew Dooku was Tyranus? His disguise when he talks to them in TCW is pretty flimsy.

>Han slapped Leia's ass and she jumped. Her jumping caused Luke's cock to go half way down her throat. It went slightly farther down than she has ever gotten anyone before. She closed her eyes and just sucked him like she was enjoying the best shake she had ever had the pleasure of eating.

>Leia felt Han's cum filling up her tremendously fucked pussy and she began to cum herself. The feeling of her own orgasm and the feel of Han filling her, sent more shivers up her body and were translated into screams.

>Her screams were muffled however by the occupation of Luke's long stiff pole halfway down her throat. These screams were then turned into vibrations and buzzing that immediately sent Luke spurting everything he had into Leia's mouth.

>Luke's cock spurted and spurted cum between the hot lips of Leia. Han's cum was leaking out of her pussy and he breathed heavily as he caressed her firm ass cheeks.

>Leia swallowed about as much come as she could from Luke's draining and deflating erection. He tasted so good.

>Once the boys had deflated completely and put their pants back on, Leia just rolled over onto her back and stared up at the sky. Her gold slave bikini was still somewhat attached to her body, but hanging loosely in different places. The gold bra with the snake type design was still hanging from the chain around her neck and the gold triangle hiding her pussy from the sky was still hanging from her waist. The brown pieces of cloth were practically ripped to shreds but still clung to pieces of thread. The string that slipped between her ass was lying on the ground having been pulled out by one of the horny men that just gave her a fucking session worthy of a Republic Medal of Honor.

>Soon the Sand Skiff was pulling into Mos Eisley to were they had landed their ships earlier that week. They all said their goodbyes as Luke went to X-Wing with Artoo, and Han, Leia, Chewy, Lando, and Threepio took off for the stars in the Millennium Falcon.

Nope, the flashback stuff ends when he leaves the Jedi, so it doesn't cover the Kaminoans or Jango at all.

Either way I always figured they knew it was Dooku but didn't care because all that mattered was that they were being paid. If Dooku wanted to pay them to make soldiers so he could have massive war games with himself, it wasn't any of their business.

Yes
Her being my pleasure slave

Who are you quoting?

Almost anything that deletes the sequel era would be welcome.

She was a pedo.

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You apparently misread a comment and sperged out for an hour because you couldn't understand the conversational difference between what people hope will happen and how people wish things had gone, and you're going for the "A-HA!" to pretend 'victory?' Balls don't matter if you're an moron.

>Almost anything that deletes the sequel era would be welcome.
Disney still owns the IP; be careful what you wish for, user.

>Okay everyone, we're going to reset
>Yaaaaay!
>The only movies that are in newest canon are the Prequels.

That's fine. They build a good universe.

The last Star Wars movie that I paid to see in a theater was TPM. That said, the prequels don't deserve the hatred that they get. Lucas is not a great writer; and actors or actresses with Ford's balls could have pressed for better dialog. Even then, as says, they make an interesting universe.
That said, abandoning or retconning the OT would be the kiss of death for the IP.

Abrams was the kiss of death. There is no future after him.

Yup. Of course. She's a female torgruta. They're all naked

He's a hack, but he isn't an incompetent hack. TFA doesn't make it impossible to have an ST that is both interesting and faithful to the OT characters.
Johnson's need to piss on every thing so it smells right to him coupled with Kennedy's desire to make Leia the real heroine is what killed the ST.

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>Implying KOTOR is better than the OT
Someone get Zordon on the line. We've got a real teen with attitude.

>TFA doesn't make it impossible to have an ST that is both interesting and faithful to the OT characters.
It did, though. That doesn't mean TLJ couldn't have been better than it was (just like the fact sequels were a fundamentally awful idea in concept doesn't mean TFA couldn't have been better than it was) but as a sequel TFA shat the bed pretty hard from the outset.

>the fucking music
This is awesome

He is incompetent. Johnson followed Abrams example of a movie with no substance what was just a long drag of constant motion and noise. What's worse is that he becomes a direction for the franchise as a whole. This isn't just speculation, he's killed before. His abysmal Star Trek movies were followed with STD. Star Wars will fare no better. The Abrams way is what the franchise will be modeled after, long after he isn't even a part of it anymore personally.

This. Abrams set up a universe that was very, very hard to write a good follow-up for. He just threw ANH and some dashes of ESB and ROTJ in a blender and created a new movie designed to maximize nostalgia appeal. That helped rake in profits but it meant the movie had no identity of its own and made no attempt to justify its own setting or do anything to set itself apart.

So right from the outset you're left with an Episode 7 that basically has to build a new direction for the trilogy form scratch. Rian was not the man for the job, but at the same time a lot of the problems TLJ had were a direct result of the poor foundation TFA provided. In better hands maybe it could have been salvaged, but regardless it was always going to be a tall order.

how many times did she die? force unleashed, tartakovsky clone wars, and prequel deleted scenes?

She survived Genndy Wars, so technically she's had three deaths. Nucanon is going with the second deleted scene (with Anakin in the temple) as her actual death.

One of the main problems with Abrams is that he didn't take the setup of his own movie seriously. Nothing about the school or Kylo Ren or the Knights of Ren, make any sense, and they were never going to. The student goes crazy, and half the students run off with him for reasons he never planned to explain. He just wanted it to be bigger than Anakin turning, because Abrams gets hard over raised stakes. Everything larger just to be larger. When the villains have a giant deathstar that can blow up multiple worlds from a parking place across the galaxy, was the audience really expected to believe there was any risk that it wouldn't be destroyed? He makes the stakes so large that there is effectively no stakes at all. It's just big numbers so Abrams can feel aroused by big numbers.

What's even worse is that he does this shit without even understanding why it worked in the first place. Alderaan's destruction was less important as an actual tragedy and more important as a fork in the plot. Now the place that the heroes need to get to doesn't exist and it creates the entire detour of the second act where they get captured at the Death Star and have to escape.

The Hosnian system's destruction adds nothing. He shows us the people and this swell of sad music as if he's trying to top Alderaan but forgets why Alderaan was important. Even the heroes don't react to Hosnian with anything more than "okay we'll blow it up I guess" and the movie just abandons its actual plot so that we can have another Death Star battle for no reason. Like Alderaan, it changes the direction of the movie, but do so for completely inorganic reasons.

>I want a new Emperor, but he's bigger, and uglier, and scarier, and more powerful!
>Rian sees the character for the useless dead weight he is and kills him for the benefit of Kylo
I don't agree with a lot of what Rian did, but this was a pretty solid choice

But how will he top the stakes for episode 9? He can't exactly make it subdued. The time for that would have been 8.

So how much of a budget does the clone wars revival have anyways?

Over $9000.

Easy, by bringing back Palpatine, and it turns out he's a ghost/clone/zombie and is going to keep coming back unless someone finally kills him for good!

Also there's a 90% chance Kylo is going to kill him but die in the process Vader-style, thus redeeming himself and getting to be a ghost standing with Luke, looking on as Rey and the Resistance celebrate their victory over the First Order.

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DON'T TRUST 'EM

Aren’t twi’leks the default sex slaves in Star Wars there practically born into it To the point where Ayala secure a Jedi fucking master found it disturbingly easy to the play the part of horny daddies girl Twi’lek

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Hot

Yeah they really banked everything on there new ST stuff for market appeal and are now stuck with a dying brand that’s not nearly as successful as they wanted it to be

There's no way there aren't hundreds of millions of Twi'lek loli sex slaves.

I still wonder why Disney is pushing so hard for their own strict canon like anyone really gives a shit

No but Disney hopes you are because they’ve already sunk to much as is and it turns out planning you’re billion dollar investment the same ways Warner Bros. did with dc then was a bad idea

Are they, though? They're not forcing you to read any of the new stuff. Hell, the old stuff is still being reprinted. Even noted Disney shill Pablo has stated in the past that canon only matters as a way of organizing future content and keeping internal consistency, fans are free to view whatever they want as their own version of canon.

The fanbase has a weird relationship with canon. On one hand they insist that it's meaningless and that they will never let LSG dictate what is and isn't real to them. On the other hand they also desperately want their favorite EU things to be included in the new canon, even as they insist canon doesn't matter.

I’m still baffled by why KK put Rian in charge and let him go wild and why we’re now stuck with a handful of mediocre directors leading the series as they milk it for to push Disney+

They knew they were hiring people that would ignore it, and didn't want fans to have any expectations of otherwise.

There basically Bred to be sex slaves

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I'm legitimately excited for it. But I'm also the guy that likes ALL of the Alien and Predator movies. I liked the old EU and I like the new. I think I'm the target market for this stuff - The guy who just goes in for a bit of entertainment and then I'm happy.

>t. disney shill

Nah, I don't care if you like it or not. Everybody has different tastes, man.

>it's okay to like shit please buy all these rose and holdo dolls
mousecucks out in force tonight

Ahsoka was a nudist in the clone wars

Literally just said you don't have to like it? Like I'm not even arguing for why it's good, I'm just saying "I like it, but I like a bunch of shitty movies so who cares."

Entry-level psyops tactics. Pretend you're okay with people having a different opinion, but emphasize that yours is the correct one.
>I like it, it's okay if you don't like it, but I know that what I like is good
You've failed. Tell your Kike masters and see how merciful they are.

Jesus you're projecting some traits onto me here that really aren't there. You don't like the sequel movies? Cool. They're flawed, there are problems, they aren't masterpieces. I've liked them, even with their flaws. I understand why other people wouldn't.

You're allowed to have different opinions without being a corporate shill, man.

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Oh god it's this faggot again

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Except it's blatantly obvious that you're trying to encourage people to stop criticizing Disney and follow your lead, to consume whatever Disney produces without thought, and to smile the entire time.

Is anything in that screencapped post wrong, though? Can you refute any of the points made?

PSA that hiding posts is a thing. Don't engage retardation.

Rebels

Aside from a few scenes tied to TCW it is utter shit.

I shit on rebels on every corner but I have to admit they did good by not making her tentacles that big and long.

>Rebels doesn't look terrible

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Ahsoka should've follow Anakin's example and tap some sweet senator ass.

>Master makes Padwan strip.
How did they get away with this? Also did Anakin do this to Ahsoka too?

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What comic is that?

No, she was assigned to the kids because those were the only creatures in space she didn't want to fuck. Everyone else - above the age of 14 - was in danger all the time. Clone Commanders recorded at least 57 cases during the war where she crippled entire companies, sometimes even starships because she was so horny. Anakin and Obi-Wan could barely keep up with her. By the time she became an apprentice, her daily fluid intake already came entirely from cum. No wonder she was sent on suicide missions regularly. The Republic had some chance to operate properly in the region until she sucked every pirate, bandit and slaver dry. If the CIS had a human army, that war would've ended in months.

>Aayla barely survives the Order 66 attack
>makes her way back to Hutt space after getting Yoda's message to stay away from Coruscant
>goes into hiding as a dancer
>it feels nice and comfortable
>she has to stop using the Force to avoid discovery
>now her job feels even more right
>soon she's happily giving random aliens lap dances and grinding against them as they slip credits into her bikini

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No, they fucked themselves by outright stating that the EU was all non canon. Then when they realized what a dumb fucking idea that was they started stealing ideas from it because they can't write original content worth a shit

But they announced from the very beginning that's what they were going to do. As in it's literally in the press release where they announce that the EU is no longer canon.

You can't expect these shitters to actually know what they're talking about, all they know is what they saw some idiot on Youtube saying

What is it about the slave outfit that makes any character no matter how shit good?

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Shaak Ti > Barriss >>>>>>>>>>>> old cum rag > Ahsoka

>You killed your mom.

She marries whats her face and raises a gay family then she rejoins the New Jedi Temple introducing herself as Luke's Papa's apprentice. Although she can't make up for lost time raising Luke as an aunty she can start by being his friend and assisting in the building of a new order.

Left or right Yea Forums

>side stories have some clones fall in love with some jedi

so from this tangent is it safe to assume maybe some jedi have had relations with multiple clones at the same time

>very beginning
It took a year and half to happen

Reminder Disney canon is worse.

He literally fucked up every flight he ever did. But he did destroy like, a billion death stars, so whatever.

>above the age of 14
>clone troopers

The clone troopers are younger than she is.

sticc space Gogo Tomago got so little quality r34.m It's not fair dammit. I was sure she'd be a magnet for slave bikini fan-art.

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So she shota’d older looking boys

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well, her design and personality sucks, specially after season 1

Who's the beautiful lady?

The best kind

Anakin Skywalker

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>Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father’s exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems. Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars, and once in a while we’d even have the entire 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half. It was surreal. We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.

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Better yet, did the jedi council do that to Anakin?

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Shit character. Hera on the other hand...

>Satine almost had her own suit of armor

Hurr hurr no let's make her a really stupid pacifist

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