Why can't the West make cool villains anymore

>Johan
>personality and motivation
He had neither.

Why is it anime villains are always obnoxious douchebags?

Because Japanese drama is bullshit. They can't summon even half of the nuance even the most trite republic serial villains have.

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I know all east v west threads are bait, but could you at least try to hide your wetback levels just a bit?
Not really, it's like someone put random parts of predator and xenomorph costumes on over a purple bodysuit, absolutely awful.

Cooler is cool but also a jobber

>Joker
>Zoom
>Red Skull
>Ultron
>The Dark Legion(Sonic comics)
>Catra
>Sauron
>Lord Voldemort
>Vader
>Malificent
>Zaheer
>Fire nation royal family
>Kuvira
>Forces of Chaos(40k)
>Skeletor
>Aku
>Dormammu
>The Emperor(Star wars)
>Shredder
>Skeleton King
>Mumm-Ra
>Clu
> Grogar
>Tirek
>Lord Vetinari
>Johnnie Marcone
>Mertil tyl Loesp and The Iln War Machine
>Thrawn
>Erik Killmonger
>Colonel Hans Landa
>Hela
> Elijah Price
>Venom

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All of those are shit.

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Shut up Frieza, I always liked Cell better than you anyway.

Yes, you are, capeshitter.

>Capeshit
Yikes

>Capeshit
>The Dark Legion(Sonic comics)
>Catra
>Sauron
>Lord Voldemort
>Vader
>Malificent
>Zaheer
>Fire nation royal family
>Kuvira
>Forces of Chaos(40k)
>Skeletor
>Aku
>The Emperor(Star wars)
>Shredder
>Skeleton King
>Mumm-Ra
>Clu
>Colonel Hans Landa
>>Mertil tyl Loesp and The Iln War Machine
>>Lord Vetinari
>Johnnie Marcone
> Grogar
>Tirek
Kys you uncultured swine!

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Still boring shit villains.

Why bother when you can just rip off whatever Japan makes

>boring shit villains
Calling The Emperor, Clu or Sauron boring...
Calling Lord of The Rings, Tron or Star Wars capeshit.
You need to kill yourself

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Wrong German with the best motivation and bigger body count, but alright.

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Hellsing is trash.
>muh boring generic evil

>generic evil
>Clu or Sauron
It's time to stop moving goal posts and being wrong, you utter retard.

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It's time to grow out of Tolkien.

Time you contribute in what you think is a good villain instead of shitposting "ur mum" tier posts.

Just better than all the shit you named combined.

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>Clu
>Tolkien
Not a good joke.
This thread is a Dumpster fire, and so I'm out.

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Whiny liberals and the femnazis who yell too much over nothing.

This is the worst thread on Yea Forums right now.

Then go back to tumblr, cunt.

No u. And take this whole board with you.

You're the one complaining, tumblrcunt.

Wow, just when I thought I hadn't seen alot of one-note villains.

I'm sure you had judging by all the """""""characters""""""" you named.

Dragon Ball just all around has really good villians. Maybe not always in motivation, but
at least in design and characterization.

You are setting the bar too high

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>Dragon Ball just all around has really good villians
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

See, cuz his name is Cooler.

And yet all it takes to get your rocks on are genius IQ diddlers.

Why can't Dragon Ball make cool villains anymore? Name one worthwhile antagonist the franchise has given us in Super

Look at you absolutely seethe. And you can't even name a single villian better than Frieza. Pathetic.

>he's smart so he's bad
I know it offends you to see people smarter than yourself (which is all of them) but contain that, please.
Any villain is better than your weeb garbage, child.

>Any villain is better than your weeb garbage, child.
Okay, name one

>Voldemort
>Skeletor
Kek
>Lord Vetinari
How exactly was he ever a villain in any single story he appeared in?

You'll find them once you grow up and stop liking cartoon characters.

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And please, contain the hard on you get from muh philosophies of a diddler as he takes little timmy by the neck and fondles the netherlands as recites about the principles of man.

Maybe. How about until then you just name a single one. Just for something for me to look forward to.

You CAN name one, right? Surely it can't be that hard.

Come to think of it, what was the last actually good or even great animated western villain? Like Nox tier
There's a lot I haven't checked out in the past few years

Nigga thats Cooler.

Uh didnt you see the Sauron

In the end Freezer was cooler.

I posted it as a picture, dumb faggot. Not that I expect intelligence from weebs.
Funny thing is, I can't name a single trait of dull excuses for villains that you posted because of how dull they are.

He said villains, not the messiah.

> Japan
> good writing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Man thats just Ice cold

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This.

>Avatar
>Harry Potter
>Star Wars
>She-Ra

Get the fuck out.

Hit was cool but maybe not a true antagonistt

>Dyke ra
get the fuck out

Jason Bateman isn't even a villian

Gentlemen.

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2 of these are movies that have shit the bed in recent years
The other 2 have sequels or reboots that are shit

Based.

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Don't forget
>MCU

Uhh, he's literally a serial killer?!?

Just because someone is evil doesn't mean they are a villian. Villians need to be an foil to a hero. Otherwise, they are just a morally bad person

Back to Yea Forums, faggot

Bingo!

See

CHADREN is already a better villian than Cuckza.

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He's an everyday wall street guy with a hobby, you mongoloid.

He isn't a villain

>king Picollo
>Zamasu
He isn't even the best in his own show

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>Why can't the West make cool villains anymore
I thought this one was entertaining enough.

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I deliberately chose an easy mode villian for these pathetic westerners to try and beat. It wouldnt even be fair if I asked them to come up with a villian better than Piccolo

Zamas killed super with how boring he was

It was the arc of Super with the best ratings and it was fun as fuck.

But it had the worst villian possible

I'm not sure if he is the last one, but Bondrewd is pretty fantastic as a villain. He is unironically saving lives, is solving problems that people have always thought were impossible, and knows more about how the curse of the abyss works than anyone.

He just got there by brainwashing a bunch of people into a hive mind of himself, and performing absolutely horrific human experimentation on prisoners... and then orphans, because it was cheaper and they were easier to transport.

Emotionally manipulating a child into loving you and then drugging them, surgically removing everything but the brainstem and a couple of vital organs, and carrying them around in a backpack isn't the IDEAL way to survive the lowest levels of the Abyss. But its the only thing thats worked so far, and we aren't going to find a better way without more research.

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Why do weebs think their shitty villains are any good?
>IT'S NOT A VILLAIN BECAUSE I SAID SO
Fuck off.

I really liked his origins and designed. Especially his final form. His motivation was awful though

I don't like him, too anime.

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Yeah those aspects whe Kino. If only he wasnt a spaz

Because all west villains are capeshit or Trump parodies

It's not a villian because if all people who commit crimes are villians, where is the line drawn? Killing people? Robbing banks? Petty theft? If that's the case, is Walter White a villian? If so, what does that make Tuco? Just as an example of course.

The defining feature of villians is that they are an antagonist, and to be an antagonist they need someone to antagonize

>is Walter White a villian?
Yes, you fucking retard.
>The defining feature of villians is that they are an antagonist
Because you said so. Fuck off.

So is everyone who makes drugs a villian? If not, then where the hell is the line supposed to be drawn?

didnt he
>try and frame his brother inlaw
>Watch a woman die
>Poison a kid
>Dissolve a dude

So the line is drawn at framing? Watching someone die? Surely you see where I'm getting at here, user.

Wrong

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>all west villains are capeshit or Trump parodies
>all
Coraline, Nicodemus, Charles Talent Manx, Annie Wilks, James Moriarty, Hannibal Lecter, Uriah Heep,Dr Frankenstein, Captain Ahab, Lady Macbeth, The Earth itself in The Broken Earth series, Screwtape, The Red Baron, Kurtz, Mrs. Danvers, British Rear Adm. George Cockburn, Cruella de Vil, The White Witch, Bill Sikes, Count Olaf, Satan from Paradise Lost, Michael Myers, T-1000, Iago in Othello, Agent Smith, Svidrigailov, Long John Silver, Nils Bjurman, Simon Legree, Napoleon from Animal Farm, Scar, Big Brother from 1984, Ageless Stranger, G Man, Dracula, Ozymandias from Watchmen, Morgan Le Fay, Hades, Grendel, Smaug, The Nothing...

I'm losing brain cells showing up to this place.

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But they can

Hater was also great

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All of those are dogshit.

>female villains
Kill yourself.

The hell. His design was Kaio Shin but green and then Goku but pink.

I was more referring to his corrupted form

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Talk about a slow pace. All these seasons and he hasn't done anything villainous so far.

ZA WARRU

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There was that time he said something that upset someone.

>implying
A good villain shouldn't even feel like a villain at all. DBZ has generic bad guys that are just overgrown children playing thief; no ounce of nuance, complexity or entelechianism. It's nothing realistic or relatable that there are designated "villains" in the first place, but just being overdesigned thugs with artificial personality cements it as DBZ's uselessness in fiction.

>Cooler has a really good design
That's the ONLY thing he had.

then why do the nips literally rip off every single one of their concepts from the west?

>Voldemort.
>A no nose laughing retard that got fucked by a baby.
>Horse show edgy taur.
>40k "endless edgy war XD"
>Zoom "IT WAS ME JOHNNY"

This. Even Stands are just ripped straight out of X-Men.

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Because SJWs and tone policing

Nigga Sauron is a classic but the OP s asking about RECENT villains.

all japanese-made villain are dogshit though

>Cooler has a really good design though.

I, too, am a fan of the ninja turtles.

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And what's wrong with that? Shredder and Cooler are based as fuck.

Can't offend women and poc. Also they can't be enemies due to SJWs whereas Japanese describe any gender, race etc as an enemy.

speedreader's fav character

>Chilled is canon
>Cooler isn't

Fuck Toei or Toriyama or whatever nipnong faggot is responsible for these sorts of decisions.

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>Nox
really great character

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I never denied that.

>Macbeth is dogshit.
Oh eat my ass.

>muh faggot family
No one cares.

>RECENT
Yeah. I goffed on a number of those. Just put down what I recall from the last few movies and books I've read.

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Name one good villain

>speedreader
I thought only Wan Piss faggots used this non-insult?

ProJared

Barack Obama

Name one (1) good villain

The Joker
Lex Luthor
Black Manta
Doctor Doom
The Purple Man
The Green Goblin

AM

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>The Purple Man
>good villain
That retard has never been a good villain.

All shit

At least Nox had some nuance and even killed himself over remorse for what he did. Unlike Voldemort who's evil because he just felt like being evil one day.

kys weebs

East has only shit villains too

Nigger, I don't have to be a weeb to think Purple Man is a shit villain.

>All shit
Yep, that's what a child would say when proven wrong.

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He RAPED a woman.

You mean like what you said every time a weeb character was posted?

Rape is an overrated crime, there are worse things.

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biggest villain in the DC universe
he saved villains more successfully than innocents
the world would better without the bat

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Can we just agree all villains are shit?

OH MY GOD
I knew 4channel was a bit rough around the edges when I came here but I did NOT expect it to be filled with RAPE APOLOGISTS
I can't even

Worked and seethe

>villains can't be good if they're girls

Just because the majority aren't doesn't mean it's not possible dipshit

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It's impossible. No one in the right mind can take women seriously as a threat.
Same reason kid villains are shit.

>this board complains about women being the downfall of men, taking all their belongings and kids, cucking them forever, supposedly being a total menace in general to men
>but can't be a villain
Wait I think I've seen you on Yea Forums before

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>japan did serious female and kid villains better than the west
OOF

Shit better than shit is still shit.
Women are dumb and weak whores. They can't be believably threatening

Fuck and fuck this shitty ass thread

Do you suffer from autism? Are you often alone, then from time to time, you think to yourself "Heh, I'm going to say some hilarious one liner here and my peers will respect me and like me!", you say your line, and everyone around you just stares at you uncomfortably, not saying a word before they go back talking about whatever they were talking about. You smile awkwardly, telling yourself that everyone is just so sensitive these days, and if they weren't they'd appreciate the comedian you are. Does this happen often?

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

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The design doesn´t equal good character.
Cooler gets a ton of fanart because of his design, but that doesn´t make him a good villain. He´s Frieza but worse.

Are you the "I can't separate fiction from reality" type?

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That's why I hope he gets the Broly treatment. His design is just fucking cool.

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You're wrong, and confusing me for someone else.

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I don't have any peers, I stand alone atop the mountain of corpses that was once the mass of enemies who sought to defy my will.

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Not him but while I think rapists should be publically executed, women have cried wolf so many times that a lot of people have become jaded and apathetic myself included.

>I don't have any peers
I believe that.

Episode of Bardock isn't canon

What about Lady Macbeth?

I think everyone who holds that opinion should be raped. I hope you get violently assraped. Then go and tell all your friends about it

Shakespeare is a hack.

Faggot zoomer.

How many men do you actually know who got falsely accused? You actually know, not "I heard about it from someone on the internet". How many women do you actually know who have falsely accused someone? Actually know, not "I hear about it on the internet"

You see I'm starting to get pretty jaded and apathetic about all these guys crying "women crying wolf". Never seen it actually happen, but boy do I hear men whining and whining and whining about it it would seem like it happens all the time but nope, no one can tell any single personal story.

It's not just my opinion. Leo Tolstoy who was thousand times the writer Shakespeare ever was thought the same.

>I've never seen it happen in person so it's not real.
By that logic rape isn't real, I've never seen it happen.

>Leo Tolstoy
>A literally who communist.

Nothing is real for you then. Nice hyperbole retard, couldn't wait anything better from two digit iq idiots like you here.

So, you don't actually know anyone, I was right, right?

This thread is full of bait and should be burned.

Okay, how many women do you know personally that got raped other than "I saw it on the news"?

As usual for Yea Forums, the most prominent """""arguments""""" here is "it's shit because I don't like it"

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4, my sisters and mother at least are some I can really trust. Through them I have known some other women they have met in support groups. (My family had a rough life, that's enough about that)

But you don't know anyone, I was right, right?

>I know this guy who knows this guy.

>Who knew this guy's cousin

>This crazy stupid fine writer chick...

>t. actual incel

I never thought I'd be able to use incel in a serious context so congratulations on being a fucking clown

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Enjoy being a faggot.

>burger education

They do but their shows never get aired.

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Screw hope, tell me what country you're in. If we're in the same one then let's meet and see who can rape who.

>4

What the hell, are you from africa or something?
Anyway, the false rape thing is only starting to trend in my country. I know people online who have been raped or faulsely accused. Irl I've met at least three women who cried wolf regarding domestic violence and tried to fuck people over with it. One of them was my mother. The other two were in the support groups she went to play the victim. I've heard about a lot more, but you said met.

god I wish that chair was me

>talking shit about Black Manta

frieza is cooler

Eren

His crusade is justified and you know it.

>Why not use the worst antagonist of the Dragon Ball franchise
Well second now

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Have you thought that may be your family deserved it? I believe that your sisters and mother were asking for it faggot.

It actually is, the euthanasia plan isn't fucking fair to all the current Eldians who didn't even remember anything before Paradis. Eren killing the shit out of Willy was justified, all the people who died were just collateral damage. Eren has done no wrong and his only "wrong" will be betraying Zeke's trust, but it will be for the best.
inb4 they do the rumbling but the wall titans get btfo by a nuke or some shit.

not him but you are absolute retard. First learn the difference between villain and antagonist you mongoloid.

>implying cooler was western

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No recent weeb villain compares to the Shakespearean writing of Tails gets trolled.

>uses faggot on the guy defending women

You can't even insult someone properly you fucking subhuman

>Half of those are fucking blank pages at this point without any defining traits apart of what the current writer wants them to be
Lel
also
>Lord Vetinari
What the fuck

Cooler is from the 90s, and looks like 80s Shredder?

>A good villain shouldn't even feel like a villain at all.
I hate Watchmen for ruining the definition of a villain. You aren't supposed to like or agree with most villain. A good villain is supposed of to have a good personality and reasonable motivation, he shouldn't always be morally justified in his actions.

I never liked Cooler's second form. Now Meta-Cooler, on the other hand.

Thanks for posting something from a garbage anime onto /co, retard.

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In case you havent noticed, the west doesnt make cool anything anymore.

To be fair, most villains period can't compare to that

>defends literal subhumans
>calls others subhumans
Two can play this game.

A lot of recent villains are lame but the villains from Spiderverse were good IMO. I also liked Orm and Manta from Aquaman.