The Second Dark Age of Animation

I love indie animations. They have the best stories/animation styles.

>Playmobil the Movie

Whoops!

>No effort for box office results
That's what's milking it, and it's been at its worst since 2011, desu. It's sad how things have gotten, and it doesn't seem like it will get better anytime soon unless the trash keeps bombing.
I'm gonna start looking for more indie animations to watch knowing that Abominable is the last original film we have this year unless if Wish Dragon gets a US release.

Nobody wants to actually try

At the same time, nobody wants to take influence from anime because they see it as lesser

It's entirely dependent on a technology no one is willing to experiment with and because whenever there were chances to stop it (Princess and the Frog, Winnie the Pooh 2011, Spiderverse) we let those movies bomb.

Spider-Verse made over 4x its budget and won an Oscar though.

Did it? When it was in theaters the general consensus seemed to be that it was underperforming despite the critical praise.

>dark age of animation

I don't get why people call it this when it's the norm. There have only been two great periods for animation. The period in the 30's starting with Snow White all the way up until the Termite Terrace studio closes its doors in the early 60s and the VERY brief period from 1988 starting with Roger Rabbit until about 1999 or 2000, when everything returned to the normal shit status where it's been ever since. There's no such thing as "Dark ages" of animation, there's the "Golden Age" and "The Renaissance". Otherwise, all shit all the time.

I do find anime to be lesser but we should have 2d stuff
The problem is that so many people in animation already do take anime influences. Most of them are working in television and use Calarts

It underperformed at first, but word-of-mouth & the Oscar win pulled in later ticket sales to the point where theaters expanded its release to accommodate the growing interest.

Fuck off shill

>stronghold
stranglehold

Western culture has collapsed into memes and extreme consumerism, nothing has meaning anymore. You think this is bad but I say it's only the beginning. Social media on today's scale have been around for a relatively short time, everything is going to change for the worse thanks to social media. Just watch.

Spider-Verse had a weak opening weekend but the word of mouth and critical praise gave it some good legs. It didn't do super spectacular but compared to how it was at the beginning, it did great

kids today google, not giggle. they play angry birds instead of getting angry AT birds. they all have an ipad but no iq. not even one. they playstation but they never play station. i.e. one pretending to be a train and the others pretending to be different trains or low paid maintenance workers. they’re obsessed with one direction, rather than enjoying all eight directions equally. facebook… but unable to face… a book. or a hoop with a stick. a lost generation. the tv show.

I'd say the 1988 boom lasted until 2005. Otherwise you're right. Japan saside, animation has been shit worldwide more than it's been good.

Wow this is so deep. Tell me more elderly one

Personally I have a soft spot for a lot of animated films from the late 70s-80s but I don't think I'll ever feel that way about the 2010s.

>the late 70s-80s
Based
I hope the 2020s are good (I doubt they will be but I can always hope)

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wow, did you copypaste that paragraph from facebook?

What's the problem with anime?

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I'm noticing a distinct lack of pic related and the Bob's Burgers movie in these threads

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>There's a bootleg lego movie from a bootleg lego brand
>Literally the same "my toys are sentient!!" concept
>Trailer features a character doing a fortnite dance

Literally the worst fucking timeline.

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> Capitalism

Still better than Communism/Socialism, where there is even less content generated.

Wish there was a third option to suggest

>Ever since Pixar revamped Disney animation from drawing to digital, its 3-D artifice has also set the dominant style for baby-sitting fare. With few exceptions — such as The Iron Giant, Monster House, Coraline, The Adventures of Tintin, Winnie the Pooh, Paranorman, The Secret of Kells, Kubo and the Two Strings, The Lego Movie, and My Life as a Zucchini — most animated features seek the simple shiny-new-thing response [...] geared to elicit responses that are no more complex than giggling, blubbering, or technological awe — the dehumanized drive behind Pixar-Apple consumerism.
nationalreview.com/2019/02/making-animation-great-again/

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>shilling your video
>when you are objectively wrong
Why is that list missing HTTYD, Missing Link, The Lego Movie 2, or Klaus?
Why is it distinctly lacking any non-american western films? Why are you doom saying when half the movies in that chart will probably be decent

>we need to
Not your personal army

Easy, dude. While this year is essentially a drought of originality (even the films missing from that pic are mostly sequels), nothing coming out is looking as offensively bad as, say, Emoji Movie.
If Wonder Park and UglyDolls are the worst we're going to get this year (though hard to say for Abominable and Playmobil), I'd say we're in good shape.

Any good animated movies coming out this year? I can't think of any movie that I want to go out and see. The only movie that I have any "interest" in is Toy Story 4.

That Addams Family movie seems kind of cool.

name me 1 (one) completely cgi movie thats not by polygon studios that has come out in the past 3 years and was actually good.

You know Yea Forums is fucked when Yea Forums wins at western film festivals.

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coco

>Playmobil the movie

THE FUCKING MADMEN

Film festivals are full of pretentious snots who jerk off to anything foreign or 'deep'

3d animation is shit

>lol family tree memes
>lol little family in a little house
>lol interact with my future family and past family
>lol we are like totally connected like seriously if this one thing didnt happen you wouldn't exist
>>its another Japanese media showing getting into a relationship and having children can be special and fun #2428859
that population must be sinking faster then they thought

It depends on how to portray it not as a soulless puppet.
Spider-verse is excellent example of 3D animation with infilling the souls.

This is wrong but considering how regularly howquality CG films are released, you've made up your mind

Capitalism existed during the golden age of animation as well you dumbass.

have sex

I saw La Casa Lobo at Berlinale. One of the best films I saw that season, hands down.

The USSR made some high quality cartoons though, especially compared to the shit Russians have to watch today

Also obligated to say that the Warsaw pact wasn't communist, but this seems to in one ear and out the other with conservatives.

Law of diminishing returns

I don't necessarily agree, but there is a blandness to them that makes them difficult to distinguish. But then there are a few decent ones like Spider-Man that actually do unique things that make them stand out. And as bland as the films are from a comedy and story standpoint, I think the animation in the Hotel Transylvania films is very fun and appealing.

>tfw I actually agree with Armond White

Welp. Guess that's it.

>Why do animated movies suck nowadays?
Because all these studios have a stranglehold on the movie and cinema industry. It's a lot harder to make low-budget animated films than live-action films, and even harder to get them shown in the big cinema chains where they can make their money back. Newcomers can't rise up with how everything is set up.
Since those big studios are already on top there's no need to take risks, so they keep churning out the same crap. It's just self-fulfilling assumptions because they think people like the recycled crap they churn out, when really it's just because there's no alternative for them to compete with.

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old people who still believe anime is pokemon, sailor moon, DBZ and bibble black at the same time. Those people don't even rememeber the pokemon craze despite pokemon never really leaving the media, so expecting them to know Japanese animation past a fewlines of dumb cliché is pure folly. It's kinda sad, but you literally have to wait until the current generation of critics dies to start reading anime reviews that will vaguely seem legit. And only if the current sjw movement doesn't rewrite younger gens to think like Californians.

Nothing, Yea Forums is full of sour grapes.

>nothing wrong with anime

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>wait until the current generation of critics dies to start reading anime reviews that will vaguely seem legit.
Honestly, you're a bit harsh. The current generation of critics are 30 something who have seen Ghibli movies, Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion and all your popular anime (Dragon Ball, Pokemon, Sailor Moon...). They know that japanese animation is diverse.
Problem is that's not all of them and you have critics who don't consider animation to be worthwhile and a lot of them are in big media. So they only review the big studio movies, ie Pixar/Disney and such movies .

>still believe anime is Sailor Moon

I wish

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Anime is Project A-Ko, Zillion, Golgo 13: The Professional, Vampire Hunter D, and Akira. What's a pokeman?

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this. imagine cherry picking shit to make your argument sound better. pretending like there was nothing in the past is absolutely retarded. most anime films now are absolutely generic majority of which just copy anything miyazaki made.
Does it have to take place in some highschool?
does it have to be about coming of age shit?
does it have to be lol random fantasy moments for no reason other than being some kind of eye candy.

At least animation wasn’t just for kids back then.

The upcoming Tom and Jerry movie and Space Jam are apparently gonna be traditional 2D animation animated by the dudes who did the 2D segments in the latest Mary Poppins

Isn't this false? Like, adult animation is more of a recent thing?

I'll unironically drop at least 100$ in Tickets if they are traditionally animated and not done in flash/toonboom or whatever.

It is, but internet people dismiss it anyway since a lot of (American) adult animation falls into the "crude humor" trap.