What is the worst advice you ever heard or were given? What made it bad? Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? What are your tricks and tips?
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>What is the worst advice you ever heard or were given? What made it bad? Literally anything you want to do is irrelevant if you don't get a degree because nobody will ever respect you in any other career you choose.
I think the badness is pretty clear. Question: Are there any webcomics where the morally "good" guys are antagonists through the lens of the main characters?
Landon Moore
This probably gets asked a lot but thoughts on Webtoon and Tapas? Is it worth posting there or is it just a meme?
tapas yes, very worth it. Make tapas your main if you want any readers at all
webtoons is pretty crappy and I don't recommend it at all.
Jordan Clark
>Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? I don't, i take breaks for those days, having breaks is vital! >smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=179527 Page 18 is finished and waiting to be scanned
Really? According to a lot of people (even some on the Tapas forums) it's actually the opposite
Hunter Powell
I overloaded myself with things I have to draw but Ill be delivering my absolutely lewd commission before friday ends for sure. Or before depending on my mood and luck.
you gotta try it for yourself. I tried both for a while, actually tapas, webtoons and comicfury all at the same time for a while around november. I had the chance to compare tapas and wt directly. Not only webtoons was somewhat lagging behind in terms of stats and whatnot (could have been noise), it also proved to be very lacking in key features (enjoy being told when someone leaves a comment on your comic? Well fuck you. Wanna schedule updates? Fuck you again. Wanna click the name of one of your commenters to see what they are up to? Fuck you, it's not even a link.), the interface was clunky and buggy, and I had to face a series of technical problems with no possibility of contacting any tech support.
Also, the image limitations are ridiculous. And the servers are slow.
I dropped webtoons because it was a chore. It was more annoying to me to post there than it was to draw the comic.
Anthony Williams
It’s going good. It’s a uniquely illustrated (you’ve never seen an art style like this one before!) comic about methhead bogans and goth Australian chicks with mullets. Also a token abbo so everyone has someone to relate to.
>Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? What are your tricks and tips? I have several bottom-priority side projects that I'll focus on for a day when I'm not feeling the energy for my main projects. Often when I'm feeling unproductive, the lack of productivity makes me feel worse! So I just find something that sparks my motivation and then I have momentum to go back to the important stuff.
Luis Garcia
Dear Anons great and small
I've received a tablet as a gift and want to get started on making some webcomics! Are there some apps or other programs that any of you recommend?
Joseph Phillips
BTW it's an Apple iPad. I've also received an Apple Pencil.
Grayson Hernandez
I love comics like that tapas is the one that's buggy though
Eli Bell
Lol. Good luck with that one.
Leo Long
Oh wonderful! What you'll want is Clip Studio for sure, it's affordable, and it goes on sale for 50% off all the time. it's basically the best pr- >ipad Son that is not what we think when you say you got a tablet. Got our hopes up.
David Wright
Clip studio paint is free for the first 6 months, then it's a subscription (The cheaper version is $25 bucks a year). I use the desktop version and highly recommend it. Procreate has been rec'd a lot. It was one of the first drawing apps created for iProducts and has a sizable following. Medibang, firealpaca, and autodesk sketchbook are also available (again, I use the the desktop versions and enjoy them)
Christian Hughes
clipstudio went to a subscription model? since the fuck when?
Michael Allen
Just the ipad version. Desktop is still pay once, own forever for the english version. (Japaense version has both the pay once and subscription for desktop)
Ian Collins
one more reason this user needs to get a computer and a drawing tablet
Ian Flores
I can't disagree with you, but they said they got it as a gift. It makes sense to use the tools you have instead of shitting on gifts they received.
user could always hit a middle ground. There are apps/software that turns an ipad into a drawing tablet like a cintique when hooked up to a desktop. Which ones they could use only depends on whether their desktop is a mac or windows (or linux)
Carter Fisher
>hook it up to a desktop this pleases me.
Hunter Scott
Wanted to hear some opinions on these pendant designs, they are pretty much one of the center pieces of my comic's plot so wanted to see if this design is appealing
This is sounding pretty appealing, since I don't intend to use it for much else. What programs do you suggest?
My laptop runs on Windows, but only if I give it its suction-cup sneakers.
Charles Wright
Kind of overdesighned especially for something that’ll always be on a character. Simplify it.
Aiden Perry
For the Sun Pendant, is the crystal only on one side of the Sun, or does the Sun run through the crystal? If it doesn't run through, then it seems pretty off since it also seems that the pendant should spin at some point in your story, right? That throws off the balance of the thing.
Hudson Nelson
whats a good onomatopoeia for a kinda distant and muffled (by rain and or mist) gunshot?
Jordan White
That took me a second. I like you, new user.
Angel Rodriguez
I like the contrasting colors, the way the sun one has cool colors for its housing and vice versa I don't love the negative space, and they would make pretty lousy actual pendants due to not resting flatly on your chest >POCH
Lucas Garcia
I will thanks! This are the way they'll look "up close " usually they'll have a simpler look
(Pic related) the idea is that the gold ring is embedded on the crystal, I understand It being confusion because of the angle
Thanks! Yeah they'd be a bit awkward as actual pendants, they are more relics if anything so not much wearing them
>What programs do you suggest? I haven't used any myself, the only apple product I own is an old ipod shuffle, but I see easycanvas always getting recommended for this stuff before anything else when it comes to windows. easynlight.com/en/easycanvas/ It has a free trial but then you have to pay for the license after two weeks. Astropad is for mac, and it's also has a free trial, but the license is pretty steep at $30 or $80 depending on the version astropad.com
>only if I give it its suction-cup sneakers. ... I don't get it. Is it a virtual machine reference or something?
Grayson Moore
run on windows get it?
Ethan Collins
OOOOOoooooh ok yea, I feel stupid now
Eli Cruz
Whos the one that's always drawing these op pics? I've been coming to these threads for the past couple months and I dont think ive seen a repeat yet
Aaron Nguyen
I'm feeling dumb - should I download this to my tablet, my laptop, or both?
Ryan Carter
some guy my guess is probably both. Programs such as this typically work th at way. I'm pretty new to mo-bile devices myself, so I can't say for sure.
>I dont think ive seen a repeat yet There was one repeat, but it was just a gradient mapped edit so I don't think anyone noticed.
>some guy You are correct!
Cooper Taylor
But whoooo or is it different people doing each one, I feel like the op pics are underappreciated despite being made every single thread
So to whoever thats making them, good job and keep up the work!!
Zachary Sanchez
It's one guy and we really appreciate him. for that matter, making the threads at all is super helpful
Dominic Thompson
There's just been one person so far (me). And thanks, I appreciate it
I am just "some guy" though. I don't have an active webcomic anymore and tend to only lurk in the threads, so I'm a nobody as far as the internet as a whole is concerned.
>so I'm a nobody as far as the internet as a whole is concerned. Fuck the internet then. You're a hero to me for consistently creating these threads. I don't have a comic yet but seeing everyone work on their stuff here is inspiring as fuck, and I don't know any other place where I could follow this in real time.
Anthony Perry
Just ignore that face in the bottom panel. This page has been dragging on so I might move in and come back later
>What is the worst advice you ever heard or were given? What made it bad?
draw porn to get popular. Newsflash, i still live with my parents and i don't wanna get caught doing it. and just drawing naked people never appealed me excluding certain exceptions.
>Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? What are your tricks and tips?
Lovely rendering. Not to nitpick, but I feel like that level of rendering deserves more even, regular shapes instead of those freehanded circles and curves.
Jaxon Davis
I think people who do nice things on the internet for others without any credit or money are hugely overlooked. Used to be more common, back when nobody made any internet dollars
Oliver Parker
wow I couldn’t come up with any good answers off the top of my head but that’s a solid one. Speaking from experience it’s out there on the internet forever and the money isn’t all that good
Angel Carter
>What is the worst advice you ever heard or were given? What made it bad? Dont really know, so far all the advice I heard was good. But as a side note, on my first day on art classes another guy that started with me got into an argument with the professor because he wanted to be taught abstract art. >Guy: Abstract art is valid too, you have to open your mind. >Prof: If I taught you all abstract art there would be no point to this class. Lets study the human figure and the basic forms first. >Guy: That is too rigid, you have to give value to the abstract too. etc. Fun class. Tomorrow I go again.
>Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? What are your tricks and tips? I dont. But if my bad days continue and continue I force myself to and then go from there.
>Im surprised you hang around here so much yet have no comic. I used to have one a few years back and occasionally did fan comics, but wound up with a bad bout of depression with worsening anxiety that made it hard to work on. Every comment started to get to me giving me anxiety attacks (even if they were positive), so I took a step back for my own health. I haven't been back, but being able to see everyone work on their own comics here makes me want to try again. And making sure new threads get posted makes me feel like I'm at least helping others a little bit by making sure they have a place to converse while also giving me something to focus on. Not feeling attached to a username helps a bit, too. It's sort of like group therapy for me, but not quite.
That's why I like these threads. It gets derailed sometimes, but otherwise it's great seeing how everyone works and improves. I swear sometimes I pop into the threads only to stare at all the art and ideas as they progress.
Very true, but I think it's also more difficult to avoid credit than it used to be, or it has been from my experience.
Grayson Evans
cringe. On the other hand, wouldn't it be nice if art colleges were replaced with small-group or individual art tutoring? I feel like that makes more sense in both efficacy and economy.
Jack Sanchez
>On the other hand, wouldn't it be nice if art colleges were replaced with small-group or individual art tutoring?
Actual art colleges are like that, though.
Blake Adams
better a boomerang than a failure to launch.
Zachary Sanders
But they're not, they're the opposite of that. Hundreds of people taking the same classes, in large groups per session
Camden Carter
maybe in china but that doesnt happen often here in the states
Logan Hernandez
This is a small group. We are 5 people at least we were on that class.
Thats interesting. Well, im always open to read comics posted here, but always remember you will receive feedback, good or bad. Dunno how one handles anxiety. Its good to know this helps you in any way though, honestly, Im glad to have you here.
Jordan Sanders
That's literally not how it works though. You obviously haven't been to one. At least, not one worth its salt.
Chase Adams
I've been able to improve my digital work a bit since that last post, working with better more customized brushes now
Of course I haven't, but I know at least four friends who've been to art school and they described things in pretty good detail. Massachusetts, Georgia, California.. It's the same as any college.
Brayden Rodriguez
They probably did not go to proper art schools. None of them would shovel hundreds of people into a class. Sounds more like your friends took drawing classes at the local community colleges, or something.
Or, I'm betting they went to the AI Art Institutes or something, which are pretty unanimously accepted as being bad.
The school I went to, the actual drawing/workshop classes were never more than like, 15-12 people. And most of the classes were under 10 people. The only ones that were more than that were the academic classes like Art History, where its reading out of text book and memorizing dates paintings were made, or something.
Your actual classes were small. Critique days were lengthy and everyone got their share of time and attention. You also had like, once every two months or so where class was cancelled and everyone was called info for one-on-one critiques with your instructor. Many of them were artists and professionals themselves, and you could mentor with them, and/or intern with or for them to get credit because you were required an internship anyway.
There are problems with going the private art school path (mostly the money) but gigantic classes where you're just a random face in a sea of other faces was actually one of the things that wasn't a problem.
Jonathan Cox
no, not hundre- you didn't hear me. hundreds in the college, broken up into typical-sized classes. not this 5 or 6 stuff, that sounds great. 15 sounds more typical to me. My point is now great would it be if it was way more individualized, completely. Something an artist would do on the side, the way moms give piano lessons.
Josiah Kelly
>no, not hundre- you didn't hear me. hundreds in the college, broken up into typical-sized classes
Oh. I misunderstood you, or you just didn't word it quite how you were thinking, when I read this;
>But they're not, they're the opposite of that. Hundreds of people taking the same classes, in large groups per session
That makes me think large auditoriums of people all filing in to learn how to draw perspective or something.
>Something an artist would do on the side, the way moms give piano lessons.
That probably isn't terribly feasible, since Piano isn't something you probably spend like, 8, 10, 12 hours a day on as an actual job like doing artist stuff.
Dylan Nguyen
Oh god, like colleges on TV? with the huge lecture halls? Naw, that'd be even worse than how I've heard art college described to me. That's a you-have-to-pay-ME situation. I see how it sounded like that now, I just meant everyone did the same classes with the same teachers, at different times, so it's all standardized. And yeah it's probably not feasible, but in my mind it would mean more of us would get to teach, all across the world instead of only in centralized locations, and highly customized so that weird guy wanting to do abstracts could just apprentice under an abstract artist.
Easton Price
Honestly, people just did whatever the fuck they wanted. Art college is really weird. I tried to follow parameters and shit, since each class was kind of different.
Like, one of my drawing classes, for the final, someone brought a piece of rusty sheet metal that they said they let water drip on the whole semester. Like, that was their final. For a drawing class. Its weird enough that someone would do that as a project anyway, but for drawing class? Really?
After trying to actually follow the rules class after class, and getting like mostly Bs, and seeing people bring in random shit to unrelated classes, I kind of started not giving a shit too. Like, for one of my sculpture classes made a medieval gauntlet with cup holders on it. And my final was a monkey head made with cut up 2x4s people threw away.
I had comic and illustration classes and took those seriously, though. I liked those classes a lot.
Liam Hernandez
You decide on a story, have any you really want to tell?
Jeremiah Edwards
>you will receive feedback, good or bad. No worries, diverse critique is good for growth which is what I want in the end. I WILL be prepared for it and waiting when the time comes. My anxiety towards comments had to do with personal things I was dealing with and still working through, not what was in the comments themselves. Not going into too much detail, but putting up solid boundaries and saying no to people in my life is helping ease a lot of issues. I'll get there eventually.
I'd like to stick around these threads for as long as I can. As someone mentioned before, /hyw/ is strangely cozy and I also enjoy seeing you and everyone else here, too :D
Jaxon Morgan
This is really cool looking
Kayden Parker
That's the exact opposite of some of the reports i've gotten. I'm glad you had less of a shitty time. I do get the impression schools vary tremendously. One friend of mine said her grades were determined by peer review and there was little teacher instruction, leaving her to wonder what the hell she was paying for
Easton Cooper
>convinced I'll git gud soon with all my practicing >another week of drawing pure dogshit >every day is filled with self loathing and anxiety >every time my aging mom coughs I'm reminded of the mortality of the people I love and the shrinking time I have to "make it" When she's out of the house (I try not to worry her), I scream in gibberish and flail my body around like a lunatic around the house to help vent all this frustration.
I mean, is it better to post on a website as compared to a hosting site?
Cameron Carter
Either one's good. The current debate has really stopped being 'your own domain vs a hosting site' and has instead become 'a traditional webcomic host vs a mobileshit site' with a lot of arguments on both sides.
Nathaniel Foster
>or growth which is what I want in the end. I WILL be prepared for it and waiting when the time comes. >My anxiety towards comments had to do with personal things I was dealing with and still working through, not what was in the comments themselves. Not going into too much detail, but putting up solid boundaries and saying no to people in my life is helping ease a lot of issues. I'll get there eventually. >I'd like to stick around these threads for as l Y'know what user, that's a good idea for a webcomic
Jeremiah Lopez
I posted on line webtoon once. the formatting needs a ton of work even after drawing. Just post it on a blogspot or wordpress
Nathaniel Torres
tapas and webtoons
Grayson Hernandez
>want to write something for the fortnite age group as a tribute to the times when i played with my toys >some characters die in my draft and their deaths are always depressing >every arc ends in a defeat for the protagonists >morality is white and grey with very few truly evil characters >OCs and wacky interpretations of obscure characters have big roles >it's also a post-timeskip sequel to a story i made up while playing as a kid meaning i would have to shove some flashbacks into it >there are transformers but optimus isn't a prominent character >there are digimon but omegamon isn't a prominent character >barely any marvel characters because i don't collect marvel Is it dead in the water?
Lincoln Bailey
Phwathump
Liam Rogers
Sounds like an interesting concept. You should have a big massive payoff where the good guys win though.
>You should have a big massive payoff where the good guys win though. There is but I wonder if kids would have the patience to sit through three arcs that end in defeat for the protagonists and then one that starts tense and claustrophobic but does end with all of the bad guys defeated.
Judging by the reception of the McFarlane figures, they do.
Sebastian Ortiz
>There is but I wonder if kids would have the patience to sit through three arcs that end in defeat for the protagonists and then one that starts tense and claustrophobic but does end with all of the bad guys defeated.
How long are the arcs? Also, look at the mcu, its 23 movies for a combined run time of like 50 hours. If kids can sit through those, they can handle your comic.
Ayden Reyes
I wouldnt have started making my garbage if it werent for these threads. you aight. You've earned one favor. If you need me leave a granola bar on your front porch and whistle into the wind three times. I will be there soon.
Some of the credit goes to Chicken-Scratch for starting and codifying these threads and to me for always bumping them and comprising a disproportionate amount of the posts psst, best to resize pages before sharing
Liam Rodriguez
>dorky guys come to my work >they seem like best friends >work on their comic together >coworkers make fun of them >secretly wish I could be doing that
hate not having any art friends :(
Jaxon Ortiz
why not join them? Its okay to make friends. I wish i had friends.
Oliver Morris
>coworkers make fun of them >secretly wish I could be doing that wish you could make fun of them? it's obviously pretty easy.
Ian Wilson
>comic It will be about as hard as a comic but my project is a stop motion series. I come here because there's nowhere else to ask about writing on this site.
I haven't set it all in stone yet because I want to make sure everything is tight but I'm thinking around ten ten-minute episodes for the first arc and then expand to 15 to 20 episodes per arc. It all really depends on how good I can get at pacing the story and develop its themes.
Levi Robinson
sequential art is sequential art, we've always allowed animators to squat in here since it's not like you could have your own regular thread stopmoshe is pretty cool, but pretty hard. Good luck man. I'm just gonna say, you could do it in chuckimation instead and I'd still watch it.
Brayden Barnes
Thanks. I never knew that kind of animation was called chuckimation, I'm now considering to use some of it for things like the small digimon figures. I'd spend myself out of a home if I tried giving all of them articulated figures.
Kayden Robinson
how do you fellas like this shitty cover i made for a potential stardust villain over 9000 hours in ms paint
because they're capeshit guys and their art looks bad from what I've seen, just jealous I don't have an art companion
Jaxon Turner
FUCK GODDAMMIT MOTHERFUCKER SHIT
Bentley Clark
>stop motion Good luck senpai. I tried stop motion and it's really difficult. I believe in you.
Connor Kelly
What kind of webtoons do you fellas even make? Short strips or shit with an overarching plot?
Blake Clark
>webtoons All kinds, my good user. We have people in here doing things almost indistinguishable from newspaper strips, we have epic graphic novels, we have straight-up manga, we have ms paint garbage, we have refugees from turn of the millennium Newgrounds flash cartoons, tributes to spritecomics, fighting-based comics, mysteries, porn... everything you could ask for or about.
Jack Wilson
page damn nine
Juan Martinez
I'll try to keep an eye out and post a WIP when we get low again.
>Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? What are your tricks and tips? for some reason theme park videos/documentaries specifically get me to focus a million times better than anything else whilst drawing. the only problem is that i can't listen to them when i'm scripting, though reading the lines aloud to myself helps, it makes me realise when dialogue sounds like utter shit too.
Luke Hall
Elbow drop hulk smash
Camden Davis
german suplex or yokuzuna drop.
Justin Garcia
pinching her cheeks
Jaxson Thompson
because Defunctland is a hell of a presenter
Asher Sanchez
Which ones
Justin Price
hey guys took some time to get my shit together, but moth comics still lives! if anyone recalls the few times i posted here..
ive been pretty active on instagram instagram.com/muchpaprika/ so check that out if you guys wanna keep up to date, im making good head way on the first issue being drawn so hopefully be releasing that in the summer
also up for any fan art requests of comics/games characters shoot me a message on my insta if ya feel like ya wanna see me draw something
trying to get better at marketing myself and talking to people, so im gona try and pop up in these threads and draw threads more often
glad you're back! This doesn't look familiar to me even though I remember at least two things that could be described as moth comics.But it does look adventuresome!
I always wanted to thank the person making these threads and op pics, but never knew who it was! Thank you!! It is hugely appreciated!!
It's amazing to see him with such a well designed, realistic oni mask. I also love the extra details like the scratches and cracks on the mask. Truly awesome. Thanks again, Strawdudz!!
James Harris
Amazing work of worst oni boy.
Chase Reyes
i never open these threads but i saw this on the front page and i wanted to say good job
>when a character is somehow simultaneously best boy and best girl, so you know it can never be revealed, left forever in a state of Schroedinger's Cock
John Sanchez
Also known as Schrodinger´s Pussy!
Aiden Harris
yeah I wasn't sure whether to use same first letter or cat pun. I went with the former. For some reason 'muff' would also work.
Juan Johnson
Great to hear about Daizo!! He isn't often talked about so it's always a great surprise to hear people like him.
I think I already said this, but, judging by mannerisms, Kei is female. That said I might be imposing a very traditional view of male/female mannerisms that doesnt really fit the fantasy world of Oni x Fox nor modern times. I also thought Kage was a dude so there is that too.
Ultimately I believe you will never reveal it. Hope you do.
Evan Lee
Totally makes sense! Kei's shy and polite nature, along with various hobbies like origami, leave room for interpretation, unlike Kage who gave just about zero reason to suspect being female
As for any reveal things will be heating up in the story and there may be some reveals that surprise you
Colton Gonzalez
What if there's a cow who was on its way to being turned into hamburgers but it drank a youth potion
Loving this expressiveness and massively decreased ugliness in Neptunia. This nose works a lot better for her than that one with the defined nostril curl, I feel.
Kayden Diaz
Agree, nice expressions in there.
Grayson Baker
actually i'm still in high school...yet 19..long story
Luke Flores
it's okay user, you just got mono and had to repeat a year, right? That's what I'll assume.
Cameron Mitchell
back in elementary school....shit i was dumb back in the day. i can't fucking wait to get into college since there's no way in hell i can ask my parents to buy this
>"What is that, some kind of a buttplug? Is that for gay sex? user, you have to pay for your own gay sex toys"
Josiah Butler
>"No mom and dad, I want you to buy it for me so I can DRAW gay sex. Its totally different!"
Hudson Howard
Don't worry about it user, in 20 and just finishing high school, its always so embarrassing telling people that because I have to explain that my school has an art program where you can take victory laps till you're 21. I'm happy I went since I didn't have to pay anything and was ablw to improve my art skills by alot when I look at the before and after pics... But its still super embarasing when the dentist asks what school I'm at and have to explain why I was there for 7 years rather than 4
Jeremiah Jones
Fuk I didnt proof read any of that so now it looks like I'm spec ed
Jackson James
Hm. That's interesting. I've never even heard of such a thing, though.
i just wanna draw better porn....like i have several ideas for nsfw comics...like one's about a professor and her assistant (..who turns into horny airheaded hunk when horny) trying to understand the world wide web's most deviant fetishes...hilarity ensues
the other is just some slasher webcomic about two gay girls, two of their male friends trying to escape from a camp that lives next door to a wood full of escaped science experiments.. also the main slasher has a son in the form of an androgynous white haired "priestess" who falls in love with one of the main characters (it's the scared easily fat black kid)
neither of which i have the balls to draw....
pictured are the main characters of the slasher thing..
I'm dumb so I'm always insecure about what to do about my plots. My protagonist is a repentant ex-assassin for most of the story but I was thinking of doing a couple of episodes of her and her partner going around killing and doing some racketeering to show what she is like and where she gets the idea of quitting before throwing her into her redemption arc.
Should I dedicate some time to her being an assassin and then start the first arc or just jump to her being sent to kill the guy that becomes her mentor?
Jack Miller
Hmm, very nice.
Brayden Russell
I'd read those.
Oliver Gonzalez
I don't mean to give you a knee-jerk "both!" answer, but how cool would it be if we think it's going to be slice-of-assassin-life, but it turns out this routine assassination ends with a new mentor? that's a great way to start shit out. If you don't do that first, everyone's going to say "That's the point when the story really started"
Nolan Bailey
Depends on how much you want to dwell on her regret and character development. If the story its not about that but about the plot, then start with the mentor attack. If its mainly about her change, start with her initial attitude to killing.
Imho.
Anthony Garcia
also its true though, it depends on how long and how much about her and her life you can set up during that initial attempt before the mentor starts changing her mind/ways
Liam Perry
do an episode where she does an assassination and she has her "a-ha" moment and decides she doesnt wanna be an assassin anymore maybe she has to kill some government person or whatever and shes doing some recon and she sees the target is just some guy getting home from work and is greeted by his wife/kids and she says "fuck this" and starts the arc
Dylan Nguyen
man i just wanna write some superhero comics but >tfw no artist >tfw cant draw
just learn every moment you spend moping about how you can't draw is a moment you can spend gitting gud at art instead
Angel Ortiz
Looking good, Dewd! Like the other user said, it's really expressive. I really how each panel changes up the shots of the characters. Not one panel looks repeated. Also, I think you've improved quite a bit over the years
Carson Bailey
I made a new logo after being in logo hell for 4 years Also New page today, stonesofanarchy.com/98
Should you just axe your comic if you're not having fun with it anymore? I'm not sure whether to count my losses and move on or keep slugging on and hope I feel better later.
Nolan Torres
Guys can we just enact a blanket policy of ignoring all feelsposting Yes, some of it might be legitimate, but sometimes another person has simply ruined something for everyone.
Alexander Ramirez
If you lose interest in your comic, it's best to take a break If your break lasts for months and you still aren't interested, then you put in a message for your readers and be honest about how you feel. but chances are, you'll feel better later. You'll have new ideas, maybe a new direction.
Charles Ramirez
Do you have any readers? At least give them some sort of closure, even if it is in written form. It's always the worst when a webcomic stops without ever being finished.
Josiah Diaz
>readers Hahaha And yeah, a break won't hurt I guess. Well, not really a break. I'll still be drawing.
Julian Brown
I think due to dunning-krugerage, a lot of people think they have no readers, and just quit their comics, leaving those of us who enjoy the comic (usually that means the comic is really unique and unusual and maybe there ARE few readers, but those of us who do read it consider it a rare treat) more fucked than before.
Jaxson Gutierrez
I'd be nice if readers pop in every now and then to acknowledge the comic's existence and the maker's efforts in not killing it. A 'thank you for making this' would be swell.
No it has no readers, and if it does they deserve to be left in the dark for not patting me on the back when I was working my ass off.
Isaiah Sanders
Oh yeah you've gotta have comments enabled.
Logan Gutierrez
>neither of which i have the balls to draw you damn tease.
Do you have any more story art?
Jordan Watson
I always wonder about that. I try to make sure every author of a webcomic I follow knows im reading their shit. Except for Racoon Girl, forgot to tell that guy.
Luke Bennett
>"That's the point when the story really started" That's a really good point. The guilt she would feel later would feel overplayed if there wasn't a time when she was just killing with no thought in full view.
I really like to do character-driven plots so while the plot is important to set up other stages to develop her further, that character development is the entire reason why the story wouldn't be just the good guys chasing after the bad guys.
I thought of giving the a-ha moment to her partner because she has the weird background of being lovingly raised as an assassin by a manipulative person and then abandoned, while her partner only joined because their organization promised to revindicate his people's honor; I don't think she is in a position to have the initiative to quit on her own because at that point of her life her allegiance to them is a matter of survival. It's a complicated issue but their assassins' guild is more of a veteran advocate group that got corrupted by an inspirational leader that deep down is obsessed with dying in combat to the point it starts swallowing any other good traits he had before. He uses his fame and influence to lead the other members to goad the bigger factions in the world into going to war with them.
The turning point for her as of now would be getting her life spared at the request of a dopey character that is friends with her future mentor after getting overwhelmed by his ridiculous power level.
Thanks for the replies, guys. Now I believe adding that part is necessary, especially when it would give me a good chance to establish a personality for her considering she got her memories wiped out.
Nicholas Cook
>Guy Good attitude. Everyone could use a little word. doesn't have to be asskissing, just so they know you're around.
Jonathan Morris
Is it a bog-standard camp that gets rented out by the Boy Scouts regularly, or is it the Pray-Away-the-Gay camp down the road?
Good job, the internet needs more active readers like you
Wyatt Watson
>keep writing scripts and references for the webcomic but it’s been 2 month since I’ve actually drawn anything for the webcomic Worldbuilding and thinking far ahead probably isn’t something I should be doing before I’ve even posted my first page, should it?
Kevin Harris
forgot to post my comic here lately, this ones drawn by pizza mez
it depends looks nice. are you going to keep using other artists or is this just a guest thing
Juan Roberts
i dont have the income to have an artist working for me i think guest pages are a cool idea though and i hope to do more in the future
Adam Price
You could always regret not foreshadowing something in the first pages but, yeah, I believe you should learn to pick a starting point to not get lost in planning.
Jace Myers
I vow to finish my comic even if it has no readers. I want to work on it for like the next ten years with nobody noticing, finish it, and then move on with my life. Then have some internet spelunker dig it up years after it dies and it become some cult classic.
Connor Hall
Looks awesome my man. The lines connecting the bubbles really improves readability. The wall of mask is straight up ominous. I love it.
Carson Stewart
link your comic now
Liam Reed
I havent even finished enough to post. I want the first chapter done before i show it off.
Connor Lee
it sucks how few internet spelunkers there are that cgi puppet animation guy who posted in here a few times was starting out with a webshow about old internet, but now he just goes on reddit and comments on what's trending..
Isaac Sanchez
>drawing comic for 5 years >still barely any readers >no real growth in viewership in past 6 months >art still looks like crap at what point do you stop living in your dreams and face reality that you're not cut out for this?
I mean it's just sad at this point. Not even any effort. Just start ignoring them.
Michael Long
never. you cover your ears and go lalalalala. you keep churning out shit and force feed it to the internet until they learn to like it. if trannies can ignore reality and make the world accept it, then so can you.
Blake Cook
I'd say about 3 months. If you haven't made it within 3 months of trying, you're pretty much done. Stats show 99% of people who don't achieve success within a short time frame don't ever achieve it. Subway is hiring for $9/hour
James Jenkins
Kinda getting tired of this bait user.
Adrian Reyes
I mean they could always put it on a different platform to gain new traction there, make sure you post stuff on multiple media outlits as well as posting little sketches or fan art that others draw for you
Owen Thompson
I know alot of people on here are saying this is bait, but it still has a point that some people over look.
Some people have a harder time grasping certain things than others, and for some of us here that thing could be world building, believable character interactions, appealing art, storyboarding and pacing and even online social skills.
Many of these things could be whats stopping us from getting our comics the recognition we believe we deserve or the fulfilment that had drawn us into comics in the first place.
Some people are able to work past those things and get to where they want, but some people don't know how and are never able to improve or at least improve at a much slower rate.
The only thing I can say in that situation is if you truly want to keep pursuing comics then either keep doing the same stuff youve been doing or try to figure out how to fix the problem. But also realize it will be alot harder than you think and that sometimes its just not realistic to keep pursuing your dream if you don't put in the millions of hours into your work and practice.
The ones who have made it have been beaten down just as many times as you have, they just had the determination and strength to keep getting up. Whether you make it or not is completely up to you
Jacob Long
Im on the final page of a 18 page horror one shot that Ive traditionally inked and now ive gotta learn how to midtone manga style with clip studio anyone know a good resource for learning the proper way of doing it?
Charles Taylor
Why are your backgrounds so curved? That's normally a look you can only get with a fish eye lens and the rest isn't nearly as distorted.
Ryder Hernandez
Agree, but the feelsposting is still getting annoying.
Aaand now I’m back to feeling sympathetic for the king dammit. I really love the energy of energy of this comic
Andrew Young
The original here is done on 6"x9" scratch papers, they fit in well with the innerframe of the a4 template. I printed them out light blue and went over again on letter size papers 11 1/2 x 9.
another reason why I miss the era when people's email addresses were on their sites. Now it's just social media. I'm not going to PUBLICALLY praise someone in a way that shows off how nice and supportive i am to a billion people. The internet needs Jesus.
Jeremiah Jenkins
More than neat, really good.
Brody Collins
your line weights are just lovely.
Tyler Rivera
honestly...it's just some summer camp of sorts. the pray the gay away camp idea could work as social commentary..
Asher King
so what are you guys drawing currently?
Julian Lopez
zelda monsters, commissions, and game project stuff I can't share yet. hard to imagine how I ever had time for comics
Zachary Harris
A character sheet for when I finally decide to make a comic.
Logan Wilson
nothing
Joseph Rogers
Dnd characters, in thinking about making a comic loosly based offsome of the characters ive made
Justin Ward
dicks
Robert Hernandez
oh, also a mothers' day gift.
Benjamin Walker
Thanks, I still wanted her to look a little ugly because shes evil, but so many people were complaining about the nose a lot so I did fix it
They're in a park and there are a lot of grassy hills.
Noah Roberts
I liked when Neptunia was a hot sloppy stoner in a beanie, but the new villain personality's working
rereading my comic I think i made a scene too confusing
damn it.
Adrian Butler
a title page for my comic. i just need to shade it and ill post it later tonight. i needed a break from roughing out chapter one. its longer than i had anticipated. i am not looking forward to linework and coloring 30 some pages.
Colton Richardson
that overlappy panel is really hard to make sense of, I feel like the figures who are directly behind bear and skinny prince guy should have a black gradient on them so they look to be fading into the shadowy imagination zone I also love how he's spiked up his bear hair
Better for sure. I would do it even moreso, so the gradient is visibly separating the foreground characters from the imagination guys in the back. That would regrettably erase some of this really nice art. Maybe let someone else chime in so it's not just me
In that page specifically those two little girls are sisters and they just found the dead body of one of their tribes warriors In general its about a little girl climbing a mountain to meet God
Dominic Sanchez
On the dilemma between actually attempting to draw something lewd-ish and losing (im fighting against motherfucking Magi here) or just bullshitting my way around it.
I think Ill do both. I actually might be like Gus in that I wasnt really equiped to participate on a catfight tournament. I wanted to because I wanna git gud at lewds too and I like events but I have trouble imagining Rau in anything actually lewd, or better said, I have trouble drawing it. She would enjoy the girls though.
Pressure from his ancestors, pressure from his peers, pressure from future generations--some people are paralyzed by such things. That's a shameful thing.
Shame leads people to some nasty places.
Nolan Price
are his ancestors' ghosts capable of harrassing him? Otherwise what's he worried about? Like THEY never failed in their lives..
Grayson Diaz
Probably just fear of public opinion and "what will history think about me?"
that would fall under peers and future generations, sure. That's legit pressure. But my ancestors can kiss my still-corporeal ass if they don't approve of me.
Angel Young
I'd read it, though I may be biased with 3k hours in WF.
Jackson Lee
The tag line of The Concord Initiative, echoing the words of Faulkner, is "The past is not passed." The short story "The Dead" by James Joyce has an even more pointed message about the striking influence that dead generations have on us. Ideally, it is motivating, or reassuring, or instructional. But, I think for at least half of us, we look back, even subconsciously, and find ourselves lacking.
We can see the totality of their lives. We don't see the incidental failures or set backs unless we dig. For one such as Edgar, the latest king in a long line of great monarchs, the pressure is on. Can he--or any of us--live up to the iconic mold of our ancestors? They have two lives--the one they lived and the one we know. Legacy is just as important as fact to people. We compare ourselves to the legacy, and, when we come up short, we turn to the facts to rationalize to ourselves that we're good enough.
Edgar doesn't want to be known as the last of the Obertos, or the least among their mighty company, but he's not currently up to the task of stepping up. His palace is filled with the portraits and busts of great Dauntine monarchs. They watch him every day. And, now, they watch him every night in his nightmares. They find him lacking. He knows he's lacking. What's to be done about that?
Christian Garcia
That comic Outer City Limits has started doing video versions of its comics on youtube, while still posting the actual comics on the site. What do you guys think about that kind of format?
Nathan Ward
>We can see the totality of their lives. We don't see the incidental failures or set backs unless we dig. So true! or unless we just use common sense and a healthy dose of pessimism. My grampa was a hell of a success, but he feels bad about how little time he spent with his family because he was busy getting degree after degree. He doesn't even blame his wife for leaving him.
Nicholas Lewis
Human beings have a problem with complexity. We evolved to make snap judgement and quick informed decisions. Digging through complexity is taxing, and most of us aren't good at it. Instead, we simplify things. This isn't a bad thing, necessarily, but when it comes to history and the past--we miss a lot. People are complex, which is, ironically, difficult for people to deal with.
Memory and history are inherently and inescapably flawed and incomplete. That doesn't mean they are anything less than essential for us to live with purpose and hope. Your grandfather's life was probably a maelstrom of circumstance, difficult decisions, and karmic triumphs and failures. I bet even he isn't able to fully conceive of it and all its implications.
Adam Jenkins
Indeed. Point is, whenever anyone says anything about anything or anyone from the past, I find no difficulty at all imagining the opposite is true. I'm hearing people say now the nazis weren't even good at the few things they used to say they were good at.
Asher Howard
Okay I busted my ass on this title page for two days. Please let me know what you guys think. I was trying some new stuff with the shading, and im wondering if it works. I thought I would do a page like this for each chapter. I thought it would be funny if I gave whomever the team he was filling in for top billing, like it was their comic he was intruding on. Also resized so its not fuckhuge.
She still likes smoking huge doobies whenever she loses against jack and friends, lowers the anxiety.
Daniel Carter
I mean, I gotta be straight with you. They're still ms paint lines where the widths of objects seem to vary randomly and lines wobble all over the place, with jagged letters that almost look like a parody a la Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff. But the color balance is excellent, and the shading's not bad at all. I would push the shadows harder (and remember metallic things have shine on the edge of even the shadowed bits, if there's.. what do they call it, specular lighting? backscattering? something) and think more about the 3d shapes. But it's clear you aren't at that stage yet.
thanks for the feedback. my linework frustrates the shit outta me. i honestly have no idea how to clean straight lines i want. i want to do a kind of jagged geometric look, like softer invader zim, but i really struggle to pull it off. i do agree though, it does look like ms paint, though i disagree on sweet bro hella jeff thing. if it was sweet bro and hella jeff it would be good.
Colton Fisher
Been dealing with a cold lately. But still trying to at least keep my hands busy.
Okay, I see a lot of potential in you (I dig your concept and have since the beginning) so if you really care to improve, I think we can get you there. Firstly, if there's anyone in these threads you probably ought to be learning from, it's Duplex. Secondly, what program are you using? is it literally ms paint? We need to do something about that. Thirdly, the biggest thing you can do, even if you are going for the kinda flat, angular Invader Zim look, is to work out the construction of the shapes in 3d during the sketch phase. It might take a long time, especially with something like robots, but you will save yourself tons of work in the final inking stage when you can make your nice lines over the sketch framework. I promise if you start putting work into that (and please show me your construction WIPs) I'll redline 'em for you and show you how I'd do those shapes. I've got robot experience, so I think I can help.
Basically it's just a lot of little things you've gotta learn. For example: yes, a belt is something that goes around your middle, and has an even width... but does that mean it should be two parallel straight lines when viewed in this picture? He's got a curved waist, and he's not being viewed in perfect flat view, so it should curve too. Then, because he's got one leg lifted and he's rather heavyset, his thigh should be pushing up his belly, and his belt with it. That's just one example.
Sebastian Flores
How do i find an artist to draw my comic for free? I have a lot of great ideas
Levi King
i wish. It would be an ironic masterpiece. no im just really shitty at art.
Adrian Kelly
I'm just glad you're not dead. I need my 19th century furry fix.
Jayden Lee
I finished drawing the smoke page. Now I'm trying to draw Dee and Janey with different expressions in random poses, so I can get used to 3/4 view or different angles
Jackson Smith
Im using Clip Studio and a tablet. I am totally a novice at art, so I have been practicing daily. Here is an example of one of my roughs for my first chapter so far. I picked it because it features my main robot. As you can tell the perspective and scale is totally fucked. Its supposed to look like its looming over him, but it really doesnt. I wanted the Manipod to look relatively simple, as its design was supposed to be purely utilitarian. It was supposed to turn into a hand and a foot and be very obvious with its method of transformation. Thing is it comes off flat, plain and empty.
>Im using Clip Studio and a tablet. Wow. okay, that's good news at least. First, change your pen to a thicker one, and turn on pressure sensitivity. We'll get to the specifics of that later. >Here is an example of one of my roughs for my first chapter so far. okay, you're doing some basic stuff like centering the face on the head using guidelines, that's good! but you've got to go further, I'm afraid. Every shape has got to be worked out. Not in a full wireframe, but in a way so you can see the full 3Dness of it. Like when you draw a cube by drawing two squares and connecting the corners, but moreso. >As you can tell the perspective and scale is totally fucked. Its supposed to look like its looming over him, Tricky, but doable. What you'll want to do in the future is make the entire thing taper upwards. That basic perspective makes it look like something's looming because it's getting smaller as it goes up, away from you. This sumbich is your friend: slideshare.net/bruno13marques/how-to-draw-manga-giant-robots it goes over some of that. >I wanted the Manipod to look relatively simple, as its design was supposed to be purely utilitarian. It was supposed to turn into a hand and a foot and be very obvious with its method of transformation. I really admire the ambition of your robots, making multi-changers is hard as hell. But it's clear enough you're okay with things being somewhat cartoony and getting to 'cheat' a little, so you're actually on the right track. The last two panels are actually pretty well constructed. Try to think like a movie director with the framing and direction of your panels. if you can pull that off, you'll be better than me at something!
Josiah Rodriguez
pirate adventure with talking vegetables that talk about Christianity
Asher Nguyen
they already have that but with fruit
Jason Young
Does anyone else know where to post this? Webtoons , tapas, or linetoons?
If its any consolation, this was my very first attempt at Tad and the Manipod. I dont know if I have improved, but this does demonstrate the transformation. I do plan on simplifying it to some extent. (shortening the torso and using the hip as the elbow/ankle)
I really try to go out of my way to do dynamic poses and angles. I showed a friend of mine some of my early character sketches and his main criticism was 'anyone can draw someone standing still. I need to see them doing stuff' which kinda put the fear of god into me. The other pages are all kinds of crazy close ups, poses, expressions, and a lot of things i was not comfortable drawing. I guess my point is, i dont want to do sunday garfield comics, doing what I am comfortable with. I really want to make a dynamic action comedy, and I take any advice to heart.
I'll do it user! Heres my discord: BigTittyCommitte#9350
Benjamin Rivera
>like i have several ideas for nsfw comics Oh man, can we talk about porn gripes?
>after far too much thought, come to the conclusion that porn comics should be simple, dumb, feel fast paced, and be fun >complexity/nuance should be in subtext or characterization if present at all >and as few hard rules as possible, because the purpose is the sex scenes and you want those varied and easy to justify >but I suppose that's all pointless, it's not like I'm ever going to- >...you know what would be fun? a porn comic where after ever story the hero guy ends up in that one amazingly cheesy knee pose from the Dawn of War intro youtube.com/watch?v=OTjyO_FncE4&feature=youtu.be&t=102 >okay work back, why's he always beat up and defiant? >he's... defeating magical creatures through porn logic so every 'fight' is a chapter in itself and he gets thrown around a lot >throw in that the-only-human-that-can-do-it thing from every anime ever for extra narm >this could actually be something! I just need scenarios, easy as pie! >... >wait >shit >I have no idea how to do this >every fantasy I've ever had was vore
I'm shaping a war club and don't feel good about switching hobbies before completing at least one wood carving project. They're actually surprisingly easy to make look good, even for a beginner, so far as I can see ... What? Better excuse to not draw than you're giving
I completely lost track of this post. can you reword it?
Austin Reyes
Holy shit man, that looks awesome. You captured him perfectly. I love the antenna and round lenses. He is so scruffy and lame, I adore it. That is the reject power ranger i want to write about! Dammit i gotta practice more.
oh okay, I just got confused since I didn't know what this comic actually is yet, so it was completely plausible it was a FMA fancomic It looks pretty good. what's it actually going to be about?
Caleb Murphy
It's hard to nail down. The worst advice I've heard is compare yourself and see what they're doing better than you. Then again this was first year of community college so year hear a lot from people who think they know better. Also here's page 10. tapas.io/series/The-Tale-of-Kit-and-Squeaks
Well, basically it's about this: Yukio Fujie is a hopeless freshman in high school looking desperately for anything interesting to spice up her boring, ordinary life. She gets what she wishes for after her and her group of “friends” investigate a strange murder near her school. After Yukio is left for dead when the group encounters a dangerous figure, she is given the opportunity to compete against other humans to earn the role as a vampire. Can Yukio earn the title through her newfound blood abilities? Or will she and her dreams be torn to bits in her conquest?
Cameron Young
>I have a good set up for a porn comic >I have no clue how to think up an appealing sex scene >if I'm not having fun doing the sex scenes then what's the point of doing a porn comic
>not drawing but I am carving, that counts as something creative r-right? The picture has no relevance, I just never have a reason to post it
>that bald black guy I recognize you! Also you stole that dog wholesale from Full Metal Alchemist.
Logan Cox
Doesn't sound like my kinda thing, but you can probably go miles with it. Ah, I hear you. and I totally agree. you need to have fun, and if you have fun while writing porn, it'll be fun to read. I read porn for the fun.
Christian Howard
I made a reference, but that dog wont be coming back again so It doesn't matter.
Jaxon Wright
That's fair and I plan to.
Cameron Robinson
anyone else trace a lot of things and secretly scared they'll get called out one day?
>107487583 Why would someone bother to copy something so closely but not trace it? This is weird in the extreme. Like how did this save them any effort?
Ryder Bell
I havent the slightest clue but this is sad.
Noah Walker
what manga is ths
Jaxson King
It's like, if anything it probably took MORE effort to totally redraw a manga panel and put it in your own manga like that. That sort of thing is typically reserved for homages, or shit like that amazing Yamcha-gets-a-redo comic.
Christian Gomez
I want to make an animated series.
Since that's not realistic, I should settle for something a one-poor-man-team can execute on his own, and hopefully get an adaptation in the future.
I know some people dislike the fact that comics are used as a "make do" media by director wannabes, but thought I'd ask anyway.
I've also considered making my stories in VN format instead of comic, since my stories are more about dialogue and solving problems, not so much action, so drawing the same thing over and over could end up being just redundant work down the toilet.
How can I better decide this? What's the best way of selling either? Here's what I assume:
- Comics can be published online for free, with a Patreon or similar offering extra drawings, seeing pages first, WIPs etc. - VNs I have no idea, do you have to publish your stories on Steam or some shit? What happens when a new chapter or episode is posted, how can a reader update it? Downloading a new chapter all the time could be too much work for the average dumb phoneposter.
Maybe those are not even the best options, and some voiced-over slideshow (like a polished storyboard) could be more entertaining, I don't fucking know.
There's nothing wrong or even unusual about comics being a beginningpoint for something greater, given that cartoons and even live films use drawn storyboards. you're basically just doing step 1. VN format is fine just fine in the situation you describe, where it's words-heavy. Publishing is a bit tricky, I wish i could help you there. Not sure since I don't follow any >voiced-over slideshow now that is a super undertilled patch of soil. I've been wanting to make one myself. It would definitely entertain, and potentially get you some fame. Thing is, if it really is super word-heavy and a long story, that's going to be a lot of recordingwork. Still, at least you have access to tons of voiceover peeps who work for peanuts.
David Campbell
i heavily copy my poses and scenes 1:1 (i dont trace ever) because i dont have any drawing skill i dont post on a specific site because i know everyone will call me out i already get called out from strangers but what am i going to do, NOT copy poses? the only way i can see that happening is if i stopped my comic, grinded fundies for 10 years then came back to work on it 100% imagination drawing 0 refs
Joseph King
That's why you 3D pose things instead, dummy.
Landon Evans
I'm way more scared about people thinking I'm ripping off shit because my ideas end up being too similar to a few popular things.
Cooper Wright
Been practicing more a character I don't frequently draw, but think a lot about. Want to capture her personality.
This. Everyone traces for poses/reference. Just mirror the image and make some edits. Ideally you use a 3d poser, there are plenty of free ones like design doll.
Gabriel Perez
that would only work for certain cases, in my case it wont do me very good for most scenes and obviously any sort of dynamic action the doll will be completly worthless
Aiden Parker
Then your problem is not anatomy/fundies, it's a lack of understanding of graphic appeal. In that case, training before continuing would benefit everyone, unless you financially depend on the project.
Owen Phillips
I love this so much, I can't wait till you post comic pages user
Julian Watson
It looks good but I would bump up the contrast a bit more, when you greyscale it its a bit harder to distinguish,
Remember that some readers are colour blind but also that if you can tell whats going on when its in greyscale then you can tell whats going on in colour even if the colours are wonky, its the shades of those colours that you notice.
I turned your comic greyscale to show what I mean, this one is the original but greyscale, the next one will be where I turned up the brightness while greyscaled
Gine Simmons son made a comic about vampires that in his wird was inspired by anime. Turns out it was just lifted from hellsing and bleach
Michael Collins
So after brainstorming for about a month I think I finally decided on the type of comic I want to make, but I'm not too sure how to start. I already have a proto-type design for the main character, but I'm not sure if I should go on making other characters, world building, constructing the plot, or whatever. I also have pretty much NEVER done creative writing in my life, and I'm worried that I'll forever taint my good idea if I fuck it up. Should I maybe try practicing short stories first or try to improve my art more? What do?
Have some confidence. Rau is cute. She's a worthy opponent.
Oliver Jones
Yeah I used to be on top of that but I kept forgetting, I'm trying to do a really dark night scene but it always come off as either too bright or too dark, thanks user
Nolan Mitchell
Problem with voicing shit is you restrict your target audience to a given language. Revoicing in another language costs a shitton of money, while just changing text is cheap.
Yeah, I think that reads a lot better. You may want to clean up the shape though so that it looks like what you had previously. Alternatively, you can also just color the outline in the same color as the fire.
Anthony Kelly
>comics are used as a "make do" media by director wannabes oh shit that's me how does one avoid this effect? focus on things unique to comic books?
>What is the worst advice you ever heard or were given? What made it bad? "you just have to sex up your characters" >Alt Q: How do you work through your "bad days"? What are your tricks and tips? I just write or do something else.
Christian Cooper
Lol that pic
Luke Gray
JUST about to finish the character design for chapter 11-12. Wanted to draw at least three characters on each side for each "unit type", even though only few are actually important
>how does one avoid this effect? focus on things unique to comic books? Seems like the case. If you want to word it differently you could say that you need to take full advantage of what (web)comics allow you to do and not worry about how it transcribes to other media.
Bentley Ward
How you holding up Ardi?
Robert Moore
What do you guys think of amnesiac protagonists?
Jason Rodriguez
Forget about 'em!
Evan Martinez
lazy way to provide character development
Ian Ramirez
What do guys think of a comic that just focuses on a daily life of an accountant?
Connor Anderson
What do they do other than crunching numbers?
Carson Sanders
Office shenanigans and meeting department heads that's it.
Luis Brooks
About my entry? Ill post it today.
About my comic? Ill update this weekend if im lucky and then go back to 2 or so pages per day.
About my life, work sucks and I need money.
Parker Williams
Fuck me this was for ya
Dylan Allen
*per week
work destroyed my brain today
Brayden Gomez
Why the fuck does that dog have a head of hair
Isaac Lee
>Work sucks and I need money Learn ASL. No seriously. It's no more difficult than learning something like Spanish and you can make serious money working for the courts as a translator.
Matthew Cooper
Took a long time but we're finally back! I swear these last two pages were cursed.
I guess that if you make it funny and thorough in its details it could work. I've never thought of something like that because I'm a NEET.
Jeremiah Morris
Ah, so this must be the Stardust crossover.
Ryan Morgan
Sign language? Sounds neat but its probably not my stuff. Though I dont know if that is what I want to do with my life. I have nothing I want to do with my life besides stories, and those dont pay atm..
That besides I already know spanish since im an ESL.
Nathan Moore
even though this week was tough, I was able to get another 4 pages done, whew!
You'd be surprised. Lawyer friend of mine confirmed that atleast in Louisiana there's a huge demand for translators. You can travel up and down the state and they'll pay for your lodging. There's currently a demand. And of course as a translator you won't have to just work for the courts. Schools and businesses will be wanting you as well.
Leo James
clockwise starting in the top left. I talked with a few people about whether this reads right or not so I hope it actually reads the way I intended
Blake Robinson
>What is the worst advice you ever heard or were given? What made it bad? Writing dialog in allcaps and making certain words bold. It felt too spoonfeedy. tapas.io/episode/1403877
Christian Ramirez
Well that's how I read it, but I'm not used to circular reading. I guess well done.
Angel Edwards
oh good, well thank you
Charles Rivera
my comic died the second i got a real job at taco bell 5 months ago
Nobody's ever completely consistent, just do your best.
Logan Turner
I was just about to ask the same question. I was doing character designs and I realized that the people I were drawing looked completely different with each sketch, save for consistency in hairstyle.
No offence dude but you should really actually pay attention to those lettering rules, because this is just really bad lettering.
Oliver Young
Some generic advice is to draw and sketch the characters repeatedly and memorize what they look like. It'll be easier to remember the differences the more you draw them.
Better advice is to set up some character reference sheets, full turnaround and expressions, and refer to it constantly. Each page isn't "done" until you pull up those references and make sure that they are correctly drawn.
Elijah Baker
How do you draw turnarounds?
Hunter Green
draw the same character from different angles
my advice (not that guy) is to try drawing people really simplified and see how you can keep them still recognizable, then you'll get a good handle on exactly what makes each character look like themselves
Cooper Walker
How do I draw the same character from different angles?
Kevin Martinez
how do you draw them now? like that
Isaac Perry
no seriously I'm not trying to dismiss you, but I don't understand what problems you're having or what help you need
Nathaniel Cruz
I can only draw the character with a flat perspective, or directly facing the camera drawing, but I don't know how the character is supposed to look like when he moves or turns around and I don't know how to draw it.
Brayden Sanchez
Alright, time to learn to draw! Step 1: construction. Show us your character and I'll explain how you make them out of shapes.
jammin. That's a start at least. One of them already has a body slightly turned, try drawing in profile. think about the shapes of the face when seen from the side, where the arms and legs attach, all that good stuff. Don't be ashamed to look up a reference of a body in profile to get the rough idea.
Dominic Hernandez
create character sheets and always have them in front of you when you draw but otherwise don't really worry about it looking like a rigged 3D model
Kayden Smith
How do I draw a turnaround?
Isaiah White
Profile's next! Just try it, then it can be corrected.
Brayden Richardson
Is it not already profile?
Henry Watson
I think the big issue is that while upper left and middle are decent, the rest are just bad drawings that also wouldn't hold up if they were just single images. Fixing proportions should be your first priority. I did a quick, shitty liquify and I think it's relatively easy to see that just shifting the proportions does a lot in regards to recognizability. After that focus on getting the eyes to have the same shape. Pay attention to the space ratio of sclera to iris. Easiest way is to draw a front facing figure and then draw horizontal lines across the landmarks. That way your proportions are guaranteed to be spot on.
Its literally a standard that pretty much everyone who is any sort of professional uses.
Joseph Mitchell
my bad
James Young
Also, does anyone have recommended templates?
Benjamin Jones
>can really be misleading in practice how so? If you're doing something so heavily stylized that orthographic projection doesn't apply doing a turnaround would be pointless anyway.
For a competent, experienced artist, sure. But otherwise it can be super misleading. You might lose track of how the head is tilted, for example, and then you're lining a non-tilted head's features up with a tilted one. plus it can be really confusing trying to draw feet using this technique, since at some point they need to be on the 'plane' of the ground.
ONE never finished a draft and he's famous you can get famous at any level as long as you got something important to say and your art is able to reflect that
Charles Jones
How do you get something important to say?
Logan Reed
all motivation to coninue my comic has evaporated with the realization i have no story to tell, nothing to say, and even if i did i wouldnt know how because ive neglected writing in favor of art my entire life
look into yourself and put into how your experience is unique and how you put that into your story look at the world and write ways how you view it, or how it could be look into the media you consume and look how you want to make a story that celebrates it or says ways you think you could do better
a voice is easy to find but its hard to really write down.
Ryan Taylor
whoa, scud!
Henry Cox
Guess what champ, that's actually something poignant to talk about in and of itself. Do some self exploring and meditation and write what you learn about yourself then translate that to fiction.
On ref sheets If you look up character reference/model sheets for shows and movies that you like, or are popular enough to have art books you can find decent examples of turnarounds. The korra artbook for example is fairly easy to find scans of to use as a loose guide.
I'm not saying you have to do this, but here's what I know about turnarounds that might help with making them: In animation and modeling the absolute bare minimum for a *full body* turnaround is front view and a side view (profile). Better if you also include some kind of back view (either full back or 3/4 back) and a front 3/4 view*. Characters can be posed, but the pose has to have minimal shifting for consistency (leave the leaping, running, and other exaggerated poses for your expression reference). *3/4 views are by far the most used in all media, so it's good to have that reference available.
Depending on how asymmetrical and detailed the character is you might need to include opposite sides like left and right profile, and left and right 3/4 view, but that that much detail usually goes for creatures and inanimate objects/scenes as it gets redundant if the difference is minimal like a pocket, tear, or small decoration. There are also usually close up on any part of the design that has important or intricate detail. That's why the face turnaround and expression chart tends to have the largest amount of angles, to make sure the most detailed part of a character's design, the face, has the most consistency.
In the end, what you are trying to create is a quick reference sheet that has the most likely to be used angles, along with the simplest viewing angles to figure every other angles out at a glance. Reference sheets are a pain in the ass to create, but they quickly become invaluable over time. If you don't already have sheets made for your main characters, I'd strongly recommend you consider making some.
Still interested in seeing where this goes. Yep. You didn't turn the head, and your leg proportions are pretty wacky. But this is a definite start! You have the elbows lined up with the waist, they should line up with the bottom of the ribcage. What you could do right away is pull the pelvis down a bit, eating into some of that extra thigh length. That'd give her a belly to show off in cute genie outfits.
Christopher Jackson
Start with a 3/4 view so that you have more of a 3d understanding of the character, then to make sure that everything lines up, use another piece of paper or layer and draw over top the 3/4 view to the new view so that everything overlaps right
Nolan Lee
Any good templates for a webcomic site?
Sebastian Gray
extend the legs a tad and that's actually really good.
Bentley Watson
Almost done with the set up. it should be good after that.
Angel Edwards
This is adorable.
Jonathan Stewart
most comics don't say anything especially original or profound. 'love always wins' is the message in a thousand stories, but it never goes out of fashion. just think up some characters you like and go from there
i like your artstyle
Samuel Flores
Is this true profile? I wanted her to be tall, so I guess the legs might look weird.Her hair looks even weirder to me though. >cute genie outfits That's the goal.
yep, now you gotta ask yourself how the contours of a face work in profile. for example, the nose-mouth area sticks out... then do the same for a torso, think about how a tummy is shaped and how a butt sticks out. stuff like calves, etc. then we can work on nhow to shape feet
Camden Davis
thankyou
Hudson Wilson
Technically yes! But if it feels off to you, that's because you didn't add weight to your character. I think she's supposed to be on her tip toes but there's nothing in proportionate relation to how to effects her legs/body. It looks like she's floating. You're very close though!
japanese need to practice their english chinese money isnt real, it's just lies written down in ledgers.
Jaxon Ramirez
Isn't it better to do construction in squares or cylinders rather than making concise contours? Ah, so to add weight I can just shift the proportions even if it's just a little?
it's more like putting the requisite shapes in, whatever it takes, to get things angled properly. Having a face that isn't just flat at the front helps you be like "oh yeah, if the head is turned, the nose area is turned too" etc. Because faces in particular are so important, and their features are so hard to turn, it's best to put a decent amount of precise shapes in your construction stage there. As much or little as you need, which in your case is a decent amount. >shift proportions no, you move things at the joints. think about how the body shifts and sags and tenses and flexes. or if you don't wanna think about it and can't visualize it (I can't) look at some video. you'll get it!
Ryder Long
I have a raging idea for a comic/webcomic but I am unsure on what to do, as I lack drawing skills and I am still unsure on how to go on from them.
study the fundamentals, study different ways to draw and create, and look at how your favorite artists draw
never try to BE your favorite artists but look to always improve
Angel Stewart
Find a job and pay an artist with money from said job, don't worry about what others have to say pursue your passion.
Juan Myers
Don't get greedy now, I'm much too busy to draw that.
Christopher Davis
>never try to BE your favorite artists but look to always improve why not?
Dylan Thomas
you aren't them
Elijah Baker
It wasn't a request. I was just saying
Brandon Flores
Doesn't mean I can't try to be like my idol
Cooper King
Yeah but the world doesn't need another Sarina Valentina it needs you.
Brayden Allen
Why would it need another artist?
Chase Rogers
Thanks for the tips, i've been writing down the character ideas and plot for a bit, been working on a theme of Robots and the such,
If you wanna ask me about it, shoot, I'd love to explain my idea
Luke Brown
What? That's a fucking retarded question, there's universes that no one else but you can create with your art and inspire others to do the same long after you're gone.
James Sullivan
What's the elevator pitch I'm a little busy.
Hunter Walker
Is this true?
Leo Morris
Four Military grade Prototype Robots are given enhanced learning and in a way, sentience by a disgruntled scientist that used to work there, the four then find a way escape there maker's facility in a city in Japan.
The Four Bots go as follows.
Panda: Large hulking anti-tank robot, contains a variety of deadly weaponry and tools, she has a small head and large body, and wears a “bear” face mask. Her Personality is the least emotional of the group, but she will protect and care for Baby with all of her abilities. Lacks a voice and uses Body Language. Is Generally uncaring and cold.
Lady: A Infiltration and spy robot, capable of using a enhanced field of nano-machines to cast a disguise, appearing as a soldier, citizen, any sorta human shape, with a flaw that it cannot mimic hair. She has small blades in her palms but is otherwise the weakest of the four. She is the most intelligent of the four, and was the one who helped the other three escape, and such is also the group tech in a way. Also has a vast knowledge on human emotions, and handles them the most out of the group, while at the same time hating them the most, finding them disgusting and hates human interaction. She Chooses a female alter-ego the most over male ones and likes to wear wigs as a hobby. Her body type is slim, and wears a blonde wig and a "lipstick" facemask.
The Twins(Placeholder name): Both of the Twins are not that special in a sense compared to Lady or Panda, but what makes them unique is the bond the both robots have for each other. Both made at the same time and developed, the twins are very close. White and Black (again placeholder names) are both the same, but each of them take specialization in different things and develop differently. White is a firearms robot, and loves everything about them, while Black is a melee type. These bots have the most basic body type, but what sets them apart is there ability to split there arms into four arms. They wear Spiky grin masks.
Last one is Baby: Baby unlike the other robots, is basically a "advanced" toy teddy bear, that speaks in a cute voice and is generally like a little child. Baby was found by Panda after being abandoned by his human owner. Panda develops a unusual bond with Baby, and is the only thing Panda seems to care about. Since Baby in a sense is just a advanced AI toy, he almost never fights with the group, and stays inside a hidden compartment inside Panda.
Overall, the story is robots finding humanity, but instead of the usual happiness, Short Circuit sorta thing, they find the dark side of it mostly. The group of rogue robots do jobs for the scientist that let them free, as they try to find a purpose in the world.
Sorry got carried away
Ryder Reed
You're onto something but it feels a little uninspired, what makes it unique? What are you trying to say about robots and humanity that hasnt already been said a billion times.
Angel Perez
In a way its a message that humanity and emotions are confusing, and that even cold calculated machines designed to learn and understand these things can still find them confusing and frustrating, that the endless darkness of humanity and the emotions that come with it are almost never comforting.
The group aren't heros, they aren't even anti-heros, they do jobs and assignments, and almost never do anything for pointlessness. Even when later on they understand the emotions and learning they were gifted better, they still feel no grasp to things in our world and keep to only things that they see a light in.
Nathaniel Moore
So it's an allegory for autism? Sorry dude if im being brutally honest it sounds like the plot of a Liefeld book.
Asher Kelly
I mean its a incredibly rough as fuck idea on what the theme is, I've only really got the idea for the characters and the setting
Benjamin Green
the theme should be the first thing
Kevin Rogers
does anyone really work this way?
Blake Harris
Yeah, you learn why you're telling the story first, what is it you're trying to say, and why you're trying to say it. It's the key to finishing a project, and giving it a pourpose. It can be anything from "because my mom died" to "because I want to be the first talking picture with sound!"
Robert Phillips
howbout "I want a comic that's cool"
Landon Murphy
Yeah I guess that is an answer, but not one that'll get you any real results or motivation. Everyone who makes comics wants to make a cool comic. you're going to find the motivation to pick up the pen isn't there to comeplete it.
Daniel Peterson
I mean I do have a general idea on a theme about humanity and emotions and the darkness that comes with it imposed on machines who are unknown to it.
Maybe like "Explore those emotions and maybe find out who you are on the inside"
Brody Sanders
If you knew whom you were speaking to and how wrong that makes you...
Chase Lee
If only you knew who I am bud.
Wyatt Torres
Aw I'm sorry, did you experience motivation troubles and wished you'd picked more of a theme from the start?
Josiah Barnes
You seem a little aspy, sorry you can't learn what makes humans connect and want to engage.
Ryder Hill
ideas are only as good as the direction you make probably not even half as good remember that
Luke Jenkins
I think maybe we've lost track of the discussion here. See, you said if my only purpose is to make a cool comic, then my motivation won't be there for me to complete it. Whereas in reality, my comic was very, very long, and motivation never flagged. If anything, having such a simple purpose made it easy to keep fulfilling it. You made a strong if->then statement that isn't true at all, and I found that amusing.
Isaiah Ramirez
Thats nice, I'm glad you had a comic, they're very fun to make. But I doubt you were just trying to make a comic just to make a cool one. Well executed peices just take a ton of thought and time and most normal people like using their time wisely. I don't like making guesses, but I would say you don't have a lot of friends and made it to impress people initially, then, you got a reaction and, I sincerely hope, you made a living from it. If I'm wrong and you're a well adjusted individual who did it in his free time just to do it, and make something for the world for the sake of it, mind if I see your work?
Jordan Baker
tfw you're taking a shit on the toilet and you have a fucking BRAIN BLAST about how the whole story is gonna unfold
>VNs I have no idea, do you have to publish your stories on Steam or some shit? Have you ever heard of something called Doki-Doki Literature Club? Marketed exactly like that. It got popular for a minute there.
>What happens when a new chapter or episode is posted, how can a reader update it? Downloading a new chapter all the time could be too much work for the average dumb phoneposter Release in long instances and have something resolved every episode, you fucking nerd You can make money hosting a domain(probably not Steam) but I don't know how. It's called a landing page, but beyond that it all sounds like fucking sorcery
Main thing I'd worry about is demographic, followed by if VNs are more popular than webcomics/if its possible to stand out (no data, not my thing). But going back to demographics, the only (only!) non-anime VN I've ever heard of was Angels with Scaly Wings, and that's furry. It's pure Nippon in there. If it's about popularity the two most obvious ways around this problem are either making it more weeby or advertising it as someone who's who's never read a VN and never picked up a single cliche taking the genre in a whole new direction, but both of those involve changing the story's vision
lmgtfy.com/?q=Analysis Paralysis >I'm worried that I'll forever taint my good idea if I fuck it up It won't. The literal worst case scenario is having to change one dramatic line of dialogue in the redo because the first version flubbed badly enough to be a meme. Functionally that'd just be free advertising
You're delaying so you don't have to start. I can tell because I'm doing the same about drawing ...Art>color theory>characters>plot>characters affecting the plot>>>>>worldbuilding.I like worldbuilding, a lot, but its purpose is to make the others better. Art highest because you can't gimmick past it
>I doubt you were just trying to make a comic just to make a cool one. strike one >Well executed peices Well, now I never said it was well-executed. >I would say you don't have a lot of friends correct >and made it to impress people initially incorrect. That doesn't even make sense. >made a living from it wouldn't I have mentioned that? My entire argument is that I never lost motivation to just make a cool comic. >mind if I see your work? Oh you've seen it. I've given you enough hints by now. and now I sound like some kind of asshat. All I wanted to do was quibble that it's possible to keep motivation with a simple, shallow goal of making something fun.
Brandon Gonzalez
2 3 1 23 is number 1! (that's 3 being the best)
Hunter Ross
doki doki is actually decent
Leo Sanchez
This is meant far less mean-spiritedly than it sounds I dislike everything about how this is presented except for the videos. I have no opinions on the videos because I wasn't able to watch them- the massive staticy background makes me worry I'm going to develop epilepsy or something and watching them on YT defeats the point.
That link looks like malware. Your post looks like malware- you said something intriguing but impersonal that looks like it could have been machine generated. I checked the link in the archive, you've only posted 3 times before with similar messages. You're an unknown in the thread. The tagline IS fine but looks sketch following all the other sketchiness.
Again, not meant in ill will- I want to hear your project improved not died. Consider changing domain or username, (wixsite is probably more known than I'm giving it credit for but 'hyggeligs' looks throwaway/spammy. Try a codename name generator, they sometimes produce gems) please, please change the background. Pic related with slowly shifting, squirming lines conveys the same idea but doesn't hurt your eyes.
Also for anyone who feels like they're having visibility issues when sharing links in the thread- have an image, respond to something and be responded to. All of these make your post more interesting. Possibly say something, but treating that like a hard rule is bleh
>Have you ever heard of something called Doki-Doki Literature Club? >Release in long instances and have something resolved every episode, you fucking nerd Yes, I know Meme-Meme Memerature Meme, it's a full story. The reason I'm asking about a more periodic way of releasing chapters is not so much to milk on neverending cliffhangers to keep patrons or whatever, but rather because my shows would be episodic in nature, so they can easily be packaged in short stories (after all, as I said, they'd ideally be animated series). Bundling a few episodes in one "volume" of a VN could also work, I guess. Like a mini-season.
>weeb Not a problem, I'd be ok with the art being more Japanese in nature. In fact, I'm not an English speaker, so if I ever dub something, Japanese would be a better choice to my ears and still keep the demographic appeal, instead of going for my shithole local language.
Strive to improve your art daily, regardless if you're making comics or not. Doodle on the side, can even be a breath of fresh air from the project you're focusing too much on sometimes.
And yes, a short story is a great way to figure out how you tick and how the process feels like; I made a 12-long comic and it took me almost 3 months, but it was worth the experience (half of that time was spent procrastinating out of fear). In the end the story went just as I planned, but the art sucked - this one has no solution, you gotta shit something out to the world and it might as well be something you want to do, even if the execution won't be up to your own standards. It's hard to part with the perfect idea that's in your mind and accept the abomination your skills allow you to make, but that's part of every artist's burden to some degree.
I'm been meaning to draw one of my OCs...who I forgot the name of. It's that androgynous priestess person...
Zachary Perry
I either missed or skipped over the part about voice overs, I'll reread that. But in general I feel against anything more than Simlish- you can notice amateur voicework. A VN wouldn't necessarily need voiced lines. Can't stop you, can't argue against it really, but I feel against it
Also that wasn't the point I was making about dokidoki. The sum total of their marketing was: >YOOOOOOOO >free on that platform you're already using Steam looks like a good market, followed by that landing page later if they're as good as they sound.
I don't think games in general NEED publishers- I'm pretty sure I just downloaded OFF off a Tumblr. far as I know you just need to submit a functional game to Steam Greenlight and they'll okay it. I don't even think there's a fee.
Well if you feel so strongly about it then TELL THE WORLD YOU FUCKING EXIST, Norembridge
Leo Cook
die, loser.
Robert Bailey
Sorta in the same boat and but I'm just starting. Maybe post your comic user? If it's shit then at least you know you can move on to something else cause 2 years is depressing user
Jaxson Cook
What are you doing to advertise?
Evan Young
The can is where I get all my best ideas.
Noah Scott
Not much, just started making comics a couple of weeks ago. So I'm kinda just banking on just uploading on my webcomic platforms and Instagram.
Oh when I meant post your comic, I mean post it here in this thread user
