I've been going through old Detective Comics issues and in my opinion #374 is where the quality began to improve and modernise, prior to that issue the characters were still very blocky and chunky and indistinguishable from what had been published in the 40s and 50s
I've been going through old Detective Comics issues and in my opinion #374 is where the quality began to improve and...
Ian Bennett
Nathan Cruz
Blake Thomas
compare that first page to this the first page of #373
Levi Gonzalez
Liam Sanders
although later issues go back to the older look and style so I just don't know :\
Adrian Carter
I think those must have still been illustrated Bob Browne:
>In addition, comics historian Mark Evanier recounted that by this point, Brown "...found his work regarded as "old-fashioned". It wasn't so much that Brown couldn't take a more modern approach to his work as that he just plain didn't understand what that meant. Editors kept showing him the work of new artists, he told me. They'd say, "This is what we want now," but Brown couldn't grasp just what it was he was supposed to learn from the examples, which often struck him as displaying weak anatomy, poor perspective and other fundamental errors. It was almost like they were telling him that, "Kids relate to crude artwork," and he knew it wasn't that."
So who did this one?
Julian Gomez
Henry Foster
Camden Gutierrez
Asher Reed
man of culture
Jose Collins
Joseph Rogers
Henry Morales
Nolan Lewis
>explaining what is happening in speech bubbles
This is sadly one of the reasons I can't enjoy older comics. It's fine if they give exposition on thoughts and feelings in speech bubbles but comics used to do this all the time.
Adam Miller
ah, I found the artist for 374: Gil Kane
Mason Scott
Brandon Martinez
Presentation aside this story is pretty dark. Handled leagues better than the "oh no I'm so depressed and dark" shit that gets put out now too. Robin gets beat, Batman suppisedly beats the wrong man in rage, and the first few panels in the first page are tense. this is good.
Jordan Price
Luis Gray
although his other issues 471 is a pretty standard looking 50s/60s Batman so I dunno
Blake Foster
Isaiah Edwards
The Elongated Man back up could at times have art outstripping the quaint looking Batman
Jeremiah Miller
Mason Williams
that's a short hemline
Owen Wilson
Owen Thompson
Thx for the Gil Kane story
Ayden Gutierrez
do you think its true he was stealing art from Marvel and that's why he stopped working from them in 1983?
Ayden Adams
>hi sue, remember that you got raped and we wiped yours and everyone elses mind about it, ha ha good times
Oliver Evans
Wyatt Smith
Gabriel Campbell
Asher Sanchez
Logan Walker
and now the next issue where the art kinda slides back
Ryan Roberts
Jeremiah James
something else I notice is the background characters: were people really dressing like this in 1968? It seems like a much older style
Landon Smith
Jack Jackson
Jordan Gray
Jace Perez
Angel Sullivan
William Wright
Camden Gonzalez
Joshua Wright
Jose Powell
Ryan Gomez
Isaiah Ortiz
Andrew Carter
Caleb Moore
Carson Taylor
Aaron Walker
Michael Moore
Camden Robinson
Nicholas Wood
Ian Phillips
Jacob Clark
Angel Parker
Gabriel Davis
Aaron Jenkins
guess they needed some more filler for a second page of letters
Wyatt Price
Gavin Edwards
Tyler Diaz
Why aren't you comparing Gil Kane's pencils between issues? He did the second story in 373.
Nicholas Diaz
and last one cause I want to go to bed plus this one took ages to load, Yea Forums should really allow an exception to the posting time limit
I know Adams and O'Neill began to get involved around 395 of Detective Comics
Should I look at any Batman for more examples of the build up to better quality like the 374 here?
Logan Hill
yes he did the Elongated Man back up in 373
did he not do the Batmans art?
Ian Harris
It bugs me so much. The pictures explain what's happening, we don't need a random civillian in every panel giving massive explanations on what we're seeing.
John Parker
I might post tomorrow 384, Gardner Foxs last story before he and the other older timers got fired for trying to form a union to collectively bargain for a pension plan
Kayden Cruz
Inspite of what everyone says, it was Frank Robbins who kick-started the new age of Batman, where Dick leaves for college, and Batman moves out of Wayne manor and starts a detective agency.
Leo Perez
Kind of making me think of Gil Kane for some reason, but I think Kane was over at Marvel at this time.
Joshua James
This is my problem with Marvel, shit like that continued well into the 80s.
Kayden Smith
>do you think its true he was stealing art from Marvel and that's why he stopped working from them in 1983?
It's probably true. Chaykin confirmed it in his Hey Kids! Comics! where it had the Gil Kane analogue swipe original art to sell to dealers. McKeever used a name that was pretty obviously intended to reference Gil Kane (even though I wonder about Goodwin being the one to fire him while EIC, because Goodwin was EIC during one year in the 70's). Brubaker recently did that Criminal story where a character was a combination of various comics artists, but that character looked like Gil Kane and swiped original art.
Austin Clark
You know, the plot to #374 reminds me a lot of a Golden Age Batman story called "The Case of The Honest Crook"
Jaxson Cook
Guy!
I should have know!
Nathaniel Foster
Did businessmen (who would be who you saw in a metropolitan area like Gotham) still wear suits? Yeah. When most people think of the "fashion" of an era, they're thinking of how college students dress. Adults still dressed conservatively.
Camden Fisher
That last panel is too artsy for its own good