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I'll just leave this here.

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Guess you're right. But he seems genuinely angry and disgusted. If he really was just fucking with Red Skull I would have drawn him with a smug expression

The nazis used to euthanize the mentally ill wich is pretty based

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Life imitates art

The Joker is the least consistent character in the history of comics. There's absolutely no problem with him pulling some moral argument out of his ass because we all know that he's evil and insane and nothing about his mind is supposed to make genuine sense outside of Moore/Morrison bullshit.

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True, but the cyanide pills they used to do it weren't very humane.

>determined to kill all the Jews, AKA all comedians
>executed the mentally ill rather than lock them up in easily escapable asylums
>imposed a strict dictatorship focused on total control and repression

Joker has a shitton of reasons to hate the Nazis, dude

Blame the SJWs for this shitty writing

Maybe they should have done medical experimental researches like the japs.

It's called a joke you fucking retard.

Imagine sticking a cigar in a nazi woman's eyes in the race war lmao

>Goddamn SJW putting their values into everything I miss the old days

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>what is wartime propaganda

Imagine being enough a a faggot to be triggered by this shit. I bet you were the same faggots that got mad at Wolfenstein for killing Nazis

Churchill?
How did you escape from hell?

Pretty sure that was just making a joking reference to The Rocketeer.

Shhh. Let them sperg out over this, it's funny.

It's retarded, but it turns the joker into a jew so it's fine.
>pro-war propaganda
>a good thing

Is the pro Nazi thing you idiots just being contrarian because god you generation is fucking stupid. Or is it just Drumph being in office bringing you out of the woodwork like cockroaches? Also your generation is fucking stupid and i am scare for the future because of it.

>stalin
>psychopath

yes, stalin was a psycho, ugly commie tard

joker is an anarchist, which is the fucking opposite of nazis, he would hate nazis but the "american criminal lunatic" thing is dumb he wouldn't be a patriot

You're right he was even worse

Dude are you for real?
What country you from?

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Captain America was created by kikes, so the goys would fight for them. Most of the americans were apathetic towards hitler. Had hitler only killed poles, gypsies and homos, nobody would ever bat an eye, and we wouldn't have such holohoax circus the way it is today.

Fuck the jews, fuck the propaganda, hail kike genocide

Then he should really hate communists then

This plays more into humor seeing the Joker apparently having any semblance of moral foundation.
>I may be a criminal lunatic, but I'm an AMERICAN criminal lunatic
It's funny. Laugh, you absolute faggot.

my bet is France, Belgium or Italy

checked

He's probably a liberal

I have no idea what you are trying to say, but i will explain it: PROPAGANDA IS A BAD THING

Liberal isn't a country you dumbfuck

Ya know, this says a lot about our society

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Would make sense for a first worlder
My guess would have been sweden

Why you even asking? Only communists that exists are mentally ill westerners whos families never suffered under communism

Probably a former Soviet Block country or deranged German or Swede

only russians might have like stalin, and only because stalin made others miserable, beside russians

Well we have Venezuelans who flee their socialist shithole then demand the US become more socialist so the stupidity still carries through. First gen and second gen Cubans know what's up though

We live in a timeline where when a character written to fight Nazis fights Nazis, people feel oppressed.

Never heard my parents say anything good about the soviet union.
Sure one of my uncles got thrown into prison because he tried to make it past the border and boy those prisons fucked him up.
My grandparents one the other hand praise it with all glory.

I see this thread is heading into a huge political shitstorm.
Could we have a rape thread instead?

They identify as 'citizens of the world'. In other words, traitors to whatever their actual country is.

Pro-war propaganda isn't a good thing

>Could we have a rape thread instead?
The thread is political enough already, do we really have to drag Trump's sex life into this?

>Iranians wearing Keffiyeh
Inb4 Amerilards say Iranians and Arabs are the same, a statement that would get you killed irl

It is once war already started and there's no avoiding it. Cucks like you would cower before likes of Stalin and Hitler.

I'm amazed how this thread is still allowed but the god damn dobson thread was deleted.

Do they?

>Cucks like you would cower before likes of Stalin and Hitler.
Why would I? I wouldn't join the fucking army, i'm not retarded.

Janitior is probably a /pol/fag

>never heard of conscription

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...or he still thinks that someone will snitch him to the bezpieka if he doesn't praise hard enough

Great point retard, either be forced by your goverment to die fighting against european countries invading other european countries or go to jail. Great fucking point to justify propaganda.

Every Yea Forums board has something against dobson
/pol/ too without a doubt.
Fucking jannies cant do a proper job.

Trump mounting the joker would be quite hot desu.

Joker sees attacks on the Jews as attacks on comedy writers in general and takes it personally

Joker doesn't admire anything unless it's funny. He might make a holocaust joke one day but the next day he's all about patriotism. The only thing the Joker doesn't find funny is rape, because he was raped in prison, hence why the psychopathic killer with no moral never seems to rape anyone.

Yeah, but you're fucking stupid enough you need to have it explained to you that the Joker was joking so you opinion doesn't really matter for shit now does it.

Not since gordon..

Your kind doesn't survive long in jail so it's death either way for you. Also, you're fucking $o1b01 traitor.

The Ayatollah is more his style

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Joker's in it to cause chaos, while Nazis are all about organization. He'd be against working with a Nazi but not for that phony ass nationalistic reason in that image

Not him, but my family and their friends are full of Commies, Tankies, Liberals and every kind of Leftism under the sun. The answer is that yes, they’re all “citizens of the world, maaaaaaan”. They’re the most disgusting people I’ve ever met.

>should
Have the Burgeroids really not heard of Mengele yet?

>bootlicker tries to use buzzword
>he fails
user, so far you are defended Propaganda, interventioniism and Conscription. How fucking retarded can you get?

The open minded doctor that married a black women in Brazil?

This is based on history, where American gangsters refused to work for Nazis who tried to hire them to sabotage American factories and shipping.

The sad part is that people will justify this shit, and by people i mean retarded americans.

It's Joker of the 40s.

Wouldn't that make businessmen who outsource jobs that used to belong to their own countrymen traitors?

oh I'm sure he does

communists can't stand a clown

Yeah, actually, Stalin was pretty pyschopathic with everyone around him, moron

Mostly because that would have made them persona non grata to the US government and most gangsters in the 40s were first gen immigrants who would have gotten a one way ticket back to the shithole they came from if they weren't executed first. It wasn't out of any idea of patriotism like you think it was

>jail
>thinking he wouldnt be lynched in the streets before reaching jail

user, grow up.

It's good because nazis would shoot the clown and be done with it.

inb4 nazi clown

He experimented on jews, gypsies and fags but the insane were executed in T4.
>inb4 the holocaust is a lie

uhuh.
>freedom fries

We live in a time period where it's offensive to dislike nazis. Fucking crazy ass world.

Offensive to trolls.

Clown world...

The world is crazy enough for men to cut of their dicks and call themselfes a woman
it can't get worse than that can it?

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Oh, please.

It's not because the Nazi's are the shitscum of the earth (though they damn well are and all of you fuckers know it) it's because they're totalitarian shitheads. They want to impose a strict order and control over everything and the Joker hates that shit as much as he gets his rocks off hating everything Batman stands for. Not being funny is his cardinal sin.

The Joker would force an Orthodox Jew into a Hilter costume at gun point, shove them into a synagogue or a WWII Veterans party and then laugh when the poor guy gets his ass beaten. He would probably make a weekend of finding Nazi's who escaped persecution and put them in a jokey version of an internment camp as Fiddler on the Roof's soundtrack blares over the speakers.

But he wouldn't work with Nazis in any kind of serious alliance unless it was the build up to a punchline that would have at best tenuous political ties. Redskull fucked up because the Joker is fucking crazy but at least smart enough to know Red Skull's kind would come after him next.

>That time he became the Prime Minister of Iran
He did that solely for diplomatic immunity/to *royally piss off Batman after killing Robin.* That's it. That was the joke.

Obsessed.

>>ITT: OP and other LARPers trying to pretend that crossover is canon and not its own universe

Came here to post this.

With dicks?
I know this is Yea Forums after all

>hates nahtzee because authoritarianism
Everyone wants to be an authoritarian tho

>He did that solely for diplomatic immunity/to *royally piss off Batman after killing Robin.* That's it. That was the joke.
No you cunt, it was anti-iran propaganda.

The commies were authoritarianand people hated it.

comparing modern joker to old timey mob boss joker....... doesnt work

the guy in the left and middle are that era btw

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Learn what a LARP is. It doesn't involve computers.

this thread

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And yet, SJWs mocked that cover for years for trivializing WWII (which America hadn't even entered when that was published), made a bunch of "Cap is a blond-haired blue-eyed super-soldier fighting Nazis LOL" jokes just as much as they make "Batman is a rich man who fights mentally ill!!11!!" jokes now, frequently put it in cringe threads and it was mocked in CA: The First Avenger as stupid and something no real soldier would respect.

Funny how things change...

Yeah, and everyone who gets the upper hand in politics tries to expand their powers in as blatant or subtle a manner as possible. It's inevitable and a dumb reason to hate one particular ideology.

Yeah, you're right.

Sociopath is a better descriptive.

Fuck off, LARPer.

Sad thing really.
But conquering has always been a big dick contest.
Then again I'd rather life authoritarian state than an anarchistic one.

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>sjw
More like people that were against fucking war

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I'm talking about modern day retards like Scans_Daily and The Comics Journal, who loved to shit on that cover up until just a few years ago.

Although yes, isolationists and war protestors did criticize that cover even during the 40s. Simon & Kirby even got death threats and sought out LaGuardia's help. Funny how for years, when comics fans told that story with pride, people laughed about it and dismissed it as a tall tale and a publicity stunt, now it's told as absolute fact and a bragging point by leftists about how comics were ALWAYS woke.

Wonder how long it's gonna take for Ebony White, Steamboat and Chop-Chop to be considered progressive...

Did you get a good deal on the labor for moving those goalposts?

>I'm talking about modern day retards like Scans_Daily and The Comics Journal, who loved to shit on that cover up until just a few years ago.

Please find examples of this if you can. That might actually salvage this stupid thread.

He would hate them. Yes they do evil but they don't have fun with that. He would see then as boring drones.

This scene is written badly because he can be a patriot and mass kill americans at the same time.

Mods, if you're there, please euthanize this thread.

They don't see themselves that way. They think they are efficient.

Jesus Christ, you motherfuckers are as whiny as the fucking people you bitch about.

I remember back when Scans_Daily used to storytime old EC comics stories about racism and the comments were universally negative except from literal boomers and a handful of fans of old comics, with people calling them "forced", "ham-fisted", talking about how white people have no right to talk about these issues, defending Wertham, talking about how obvious the twist is in "Master Race" (Because that's SO totally the substance of that story...) and just generally mocking them. Someone even posted that story about a sheriff who gets away with rape in a cringe thread, and acted as if the story was making him out to be the hero.

Now they cite those comics unironically as positive examples of how comics have always been political and progressive.

Nah it makes sense. Nazis are lawful evil. Joker is chaotic evil. Joker doesn't find pleasure in orderly death and destruction.

Anarchists and Fascists do not historically get along.

Propaganda is neutral. Indoctrination is bad.

They don't have the self awareness to realize it either, and that's why it's funny!

Well you can be both.

What do you expect of Yea Forumsmblr?

It's literally the same thing.

Someone who finally gets it.

What do you think propaganda is?

He could be a maniac and a murderer, but he is patroit and loyal to the american society

>dobson
Here's your answer

Doesn't make sense. His killings have no higher purpose or goal. What is good about america that he would try to protect?

Propaganda is someone telling you what to think, indoctrination is someone forcing you what to think under threat of punishment for noncompliance or objection.
Of course I wouldn't expect fucking /pol/-cucks who interpret any time someone asks them to consider changing their minds as a globalist Jew conspiracy to know the difference, but that's what it is. Someone showing you a Donald Duck fights the Japanese short isn't indoctrinating you the way a Hitler Youth group would.

He does what he does entirely because he finds it funny.

The Joker going against a guy because he finds out he's a nazi is funny. The Joker becoming allied with Iran is funny.

He's the Joker. He's a performer, entirely going along his own sense of humor, most of the time making it all up on the spot. That's his ENTIRE motivation.

the criminal justice system which hasn't executed him yet?

1. This comic was a goofy non-canon spin-off, so Joker is more TAS "greedy crime boss who happens to enjoy carnage" then the usual complete monster portrayal in comics
2. Nazis are all about order and regimentation, and persecuted the mentally ill.
>TL;DR
based retard

Like the us-army or school are places for free thinkers.

Propaganda is just another tool of indoctrination.

Gotham has god tier lawyers.

no, its because americans stood up one day, rolled up their sleeves, and collectively brought righteous justice to the nazi monsters

>free thinkers
Yeah, keep telling yourself the meme that somehow you of all people are a free thinker.

Well he would bring that up to troll Batman but I don't think he would believe it. He think Gothams people are suckers and he is glad they are but he doesn't love them for that.

Projecting.

I'm just saying that school are places for indoctrination. They are paid by the state to make "good citizens".

Seems like the joker was upset at the guy not because of the (logical) reasons you specified but because he was a "creep" and "Un-American".

Nope, that's not what school is anymore in the western world. You're entirely entitled to fail becoming a good citizen through school and no-one will punish you for it.
Again, the very notion that you think someone is trying to influence you is the same as someone taking away your free will is the very exact reason why you are wrong and I scoff at your attitudes.

>Propaganda is someone telling you what to think, indoctrination is someone forcing you what to think under threat of punishment for noncompliance or objection.

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The Nazis lost because they were insane fundamentalists and were wrong and stupid.
It was a reactionary movement after a global recession in the Western sphere after being humiliated and losing faith in the establishment. They had no idea how to budget or run a country so they went enslaving and pillaging Europe, allied with other such bullies and thieves such as the charlatans in Italy and Japanese extremists.
They were stupid and wrong and their loss was inevitable.
Anyone defending them is usually a fucking retard. Laughing at them is mean because they are all mentally insane failures and always will be that way no matter how many times they larp on the Internet.

Actually your entire post falls apart because the Nazis were based.

Are all neo-nazis also incels?

They were losers. Even the Germans figured that out when they had to enforce martial law and killed their own citizens.

The commies have come second in basically every Russian election since the fall of the USSR user.

All violent modern fags are incels
especially g20 protestors

Todays duck and cover is more subtle but still there.
It's not only the state. If you are not american then it's odd to watch american students who all believe the same.
E.g: America - good. China - bad.

True. 10 million Germans died and they lost large parts of their country. It wasn't good for them at all.

You can find geoff Johns pro-syrian bombing propaganda in doomsday clock

>Todays duck and cover is more subtle but still there.
>It's not only the state.
See all this tells me is that you're actually legitimately spoiled enough to think that cultural attitudes being fostered with virtually no consequences if the recipient rejects them is infringing on your free-think. It's the sort of idea a person can only ever have if they've never experienced indoctrination in their entire fucking life.

Most kids in school at my age were taught to be tolerant of other cultures and society. None of the awful shit I heard about china I learned in school.

They were betrayed by (them) invading America and turning the brothers of the German people into hateful slaves of the conspiracy.

Jesus thats messed up..
The worst thing is that the faggots leave their family and flee to europe like babies

You literally made up the definition of indoctrination and pretend that propaganda isn't part of every indoctrination ever.

But that's the joke
you expect Joker to support nazis but he does completely the opposite

what a madman

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Your argument is that propaganda and indoctrination are the same thing, which they are not. And the presence of propaganda is not a sufficient condition for indoctrination, just as the example in proves.

The old song of the jews did it.

It starts with: nobody did them any harm,
goes on with: they lied that they did get killed,
and ends with: We should kill them for being liars.
and repeats itself.

Tell me about these societies that tolerate propaganda but reject indoctrination.
You get more of the one and get more of the other.

I love the fact that everyone hates Red Skull almost as much as Red Skull enjoys being hated.

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>Tell me about these societies that tolerate propaganda but reject indoctrination.
United States of America, Great Britain, France, Sweden, etc, etc, etc.
>You get more of the one and get more of the other.
The presence of a neutral element in tandem with a bad element does not make the neutral element bad.

There is nothing neutral about it. If it was true then they didn't have to spin-doctor it. You just could give people the facts but they give you a distorted image to mislead you.

Man, look at Magnetos face! Priceless.

why iranians so butthurt about arabs?

>>imposed a strict dictatorship focused on total control and repression

Wait a second. I remembered comic about insane character fighting against nazi regime.

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> You just could give people the facts but they give you a distorted image to mislead you.
Then there would never be any fiction ever.
Creating a work of fiction that represents something in a way you want it seen is in itself neither a good nor bad action. You cannot make the argument that Captain America No. 1 was presented as non-fiction, so an appeal to facts doesn't lead you anywhere. You've merely NORMATIVELY assessed that there are certain ideas that you do not want to see presented to you, and decided that these constitute propaganda.

Because they are not arabs.

>determined to kill all the Jews, AKA all comedians
This is a stretch here.

The best post in this thread and nobody bothered to reply back to it.

>Then there would never be any fiction ever.

That's a stretch.
It's like saying Star Wars is like "The Eternal Jew" propagada movie.
One has themes that relate to real life and one is state promoted ideology.
You can't water down piss and sell it as fiji water.

Maybe you're deliberately missing the point.
Were being hysterical over how war time propaganda is Always Bad. I refute this by saying that it is neutral. The statement that propaganda is not truthful does not invalidate its neutrality, just as it wouldn't invalidate the neutrality of any fiction. The neutrality must be compromised in some other way - in the case of propaganda it is compromised when it is used as part of indoctrination, or when it is of poor craftsmanship.

Because Iranians have always been butthurt after the Muslim conquest.
Literally the same as Arabs but they always bring up "muh culture".

This comic was written years before the SJWs took the comics industry, or even before they were born. Besides, hating nazis mean to be a SJW now? I fully agree OP's pic is ridiculous and nazis are so overexploited as villains that it's not even funny anymore but you guys react like you feel personally offended. I thought the SJWs were wrong at call you nazis but you often take their side

>I refute this by saying that it is neutral.
Any non-defensive War is bad user. If your country isn't being invaded joining the army. You are a faggot and a boolicker, Captain America WAS adoctrination, even now the MCU used him as a pro-interventionism narrative where americans can invade any country they want as long as they believe is the right thing to do, fuck you.

>Yeah I guess you actually make a good point. But anyways, communism am I right?
Got em

>I don't know what comic is from but I'll complain about SJWs

You're either a really dumb Comicsgate shill or a dumb SJW falseflagging as a Comicsgate supporter

I think people are the reason comics todays suck so much. If every fiction is some kind of propaganda then you will never create anything that isn't full of white lies. It's disrepectful to the reader. If you don't shove it in their faces then they may come to another conclusion. How about not assuming that you are so much smarter than the reader.

I can't stand it when writers and fans continue the mistaken belief that The Joker is insane.

HE IS NOT. THAT'S THE POINT.

The reason why The Joker is Batman's greatest enemy is because The Joker is using the EXACT SAME METHODS as Batman. He's pretending to be an insane criminal to mask the fact that he's a schemer and master strategist.

When Bruce Wayne first began, he failed miserably as an anonymous crimefighter because he was just a man fighting crime. The same skills, ... but the criminals were always confidant they could take him on: he was just another man. So he created the "Bat-man". Suddenly, criminals were scared of what he could do. Many in Gotham honestly believe Batman isn't HUMAN. Others believe that no matter what you do, Batman has a weapon/strategy to stop you. GODMODE VIA PREPTIME. That's how well Bruce Wayne has pulled off the "Batman" concept. Through theatrics and misdirection, Batman cannot truly be predicted.

The Joker does exactly the same. By *pretending* to be insane and commiting ridiculous acts at any random interval, The Joker is *disguising* the fact that he's just another clever criminal. Every step of his plan has been carefully planned through the ingenuity of a Chess Grand Master, but he covers it with seemingly insane moments of random madness. The clothes, the behaviour, the sheer unpredictability... "You cannot predict what The Joker will do". YES YOU CAN. That's why Batman always beats him.

This is why they are arch enemies. The Joker is aware of Batman's methods and works to outmanuever him. Batman also studies The Joker's actions and recognises which were feints and distractions, and which were clues to his REAL plan. A master strategist hero and master strategist villain, using the same methods of misdirection and theatricality to succeed.

...but no, people are all "Joker is Batman's opposite because he's truly insane, and a force of chaos lol".

No. Just... no.

If the Joker thought of a joke and killing a whole bunch of Jews was a good punchline he'd do it

Nazi just means anyone who is white and left wing enough these days.

What's really sad is that if the people accused of being Nazi's where actually like them, they would get attacked a lot less. Like how Islam rarely gets insulted out of fear.

youtube.com/watch?v=89KTphoQJgs

Infact there was only one Joker ever and every artist wrote him the same. So obviously everyone else but you is wrong.

Pretty sure the people who fought the Nazis in WW2 would have supported Trump and hate SJWs and get called as Nazis because they came from the fucking 1940s. It was never about the punching of Nazis but putting in Neo Nazis with millions of other Americans who happened to lean right in the category of Nazi.
>get called a Nazi for pretty much anything
>Fucking Pewdiepie got called a Nazi because of a few jokes
>Fucking SHAPIRO gets called a Nazi
>"WE SHOULD PUNCH NAZIS!" starts trending
Long story short: Social Media was a fucking mistake

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Actually an offensive war against the Nazi's is a good thing. Boy, it must really suck for the defense of the canonical bad guys of history to be the hill you're willing to die on.

you think people on this board know what is a bavarian or a prussian?

I have never read the comic that panel was from but I have seen it posted for years and always just assumed the Joker was acting patriotic as a lark and was intending to turn on the Red Skull the whole time because he's the Joker and turns on everyone he has ever worked with him pretending to be morally indignant about nazis is just for the lulz.