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Wow. Really?
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What?

Vader's a prick, he kills everybody because they woke up that morning.

Yeah. Vader'll kill anyone who sees his face; women, children, the elderly.

I'm surprised Vader had the restrain to kill her painlessly. He could've just choked her to death, a light saber to the chest is pretty humane for him.

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>A VILLAIN ACTING LIKE A VILLAIN REEEEEEE

We've already had a discussion over this, no one cares anymore.

Incels confirmed for being based.

Based Vader

Thot status : Denied

>He could've just choked her to death
Implying the woman wouldn't just have an orgasm, creating an even bigger mess

Haha yes, This is my Darth Vader

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I really hope the drama over this comic drags out for a month, or at least a few days.

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God I wish that were me

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>PoeHotDameron
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

>no one can find someone you personally dislike hot

So much fragile feminity.

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So these are the kind of freaks that want to fuck ted bundy or the boston bomber, right?

Holy fragile femininity Batman!
>Argh, how dare they satirize the Little Mermaid?!
Have sex, lady. Better yet, read "The Little Mermaid" (written by a MAN).

Where would you even kiss Darth Vader?
RIGHT THERE
IVE DONE IT

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>read "The Little Mermaid" (written by a MAN).
What, like the script?

Nah, she'd definitely want the force choke.

You mad?

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The original fairytale. I hope you're being intentionally obtuse, otherwise Disney may have the power of the masses to claim copyright over fairytales that have been in the public domain for ages.

Mouthpiece

Saved

Dexter was framed as a dangerous psychopath whose mental illness was targeted like a weapon at other dangerous psychopaths. He is not a role-model.

We want to be Jedi, you dippy bint.

I love this comic only because of how it rustles the jimmies of sjws

But he's dark! And mysterious! And the character is played by a hunk! How could he NOT be a role-model?!

>Vader kills someone for storming into his personal office/quarters while smelling like garbage and seeing him with his helmet off

This is literally the most obvious villain thing for him to do. Anakin Skywalker is long gone, there is no "understanding of mental health."

What is going on here?

Heh

No

Yes.

I dunno user, isn’t fantasising about a child murderer highly problematic?

Honestly I feel like Vader killing people for seeing him with his helmet off is far more out of character.

This
Obsessive behavior aren't cool or "empowering".

Shit like this is why universal suffrage was a mistake.

Legends™

No you idiot. The point is that you can't have a handle like "PoeHotDameron" and then bitch about objectification or whatever.

How does someone who allegedly likes Star Wars misunderstand Darth Vader THIS much?

The dude is not the Phantom. He's a monster. Pure anger. Not an ounce of tragic hero in him. It's not until a VERY specific moment in one of the biggest sequels of all time that he gets redeemed.

She also fundamentally misunderstands Dexter.
And seems to misunderstand the Little Mermaid.
And really doesn't understand how the "heroine" from this comic is different than all of the above.

10/10 oofs from me.

Have sex

Obviously because the "heroine" from this tale was mentally unstable as fuck, and she can relate.
Why are her words taken at more value than the "heroine" of this story? She's just as disposable.

This shit fascinated me, so I had to look at her twitter. It turns out she really just IS the chick from the comic, and she's upset that light is being shone on how crazy this behavior is.

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So I'm a pretty huge waifufag and have a particular liking for female villains, regardless of what horrific shit they've done. I still don't understand these people at all. It's like they want the characters to be something they're not, in which case why do they love them so much?

Surely if you love a villainous character, it's because you like their villainy and find it sexy? Seems like Garbage did, what with her fantasy of being a Sith alongside Vader.

A raid

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Okay I did. Now what?

For a random no one the comic sure gives her a special snowflake death.

Should have had her just die with the death star blowing up at the end of episode 4 alongside all the other nameless canon fodder. Hell, maybe take it farther and have her thrown in jail and rescued by the rebels years in the future after vader's dead. Really drive in the point how she doesn't matter.

>Vader kills entire school of kid Jedis in training
I sleep.
>Vader kills one crazy bitch
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Surely if you love a villainous character, it's because you like their villainy and find it sexy? Seems like Garbage did, what with her fantasy of being a Sith alongside Vader.
>fantasized about Vader saving her from abuse and romancing her
That wasn't what this garbage character was doing at all. She only fantasized about being a Sith alongside him because of the latter aspect, being alongside him.
She wasn't into Vader, she was into her shitty fanfic version of Vader.

Man, sure is creepy how she collects darth vader's things like that.

Like how his grandson does, or all those real life people who collect everything from toasters to bodywash that have vaders appearance.

>She wasn't into Vader, she was into her shitty fanfic version of Vader.
Conveniently enough, JUST like Twitter chick, who doesn't know what Vader is supposed to be.

What the fuck happened to his red lightsaber?

Is he slashing through a lightsaber with a regular ass sword?

Crazy chick was using it as a dildo at the time

In the rpg games there are sword designed to counter lightsabres, can't remember the name for them tho

>Like how his grandson does
Yeah, fishing your granddad's melted face mask out of his funeral pyre is pretty creepy, and I'm fairly sure the audience is supposed to think Kylo's creepy for doing it.

And if you can't see the difference between someone collecting merch of a fictional character and someone collecting medical samples and bodily fluids of someone they're obsessed with, please get help now.

Vibroblades.

These are the same people who paint Kylo Ren as just a tragic misunderstood figure that people should empathize with. So no, of course they don't think that's creepy, they think it's sweet. And yes, obviously they need to get help.

>Copy/paste a famous musical
>After copy/pasting battle royal

Hopeless needs a hobbie or some shit, at least this time the fantasy didn't involve arcade having a roll of condoms while watching kids kill each other.

this world in a nutshell

>In the rpg games there are sword designed to counter lightsabres, can't remember the name for them tho
Vibro blades?

nobody likes kylo ren, because nobody likes the new trilogy, and nobody should. as a matter of fact, I'm going to watch some old movies right now and fuck this gay shit

False equivalence, shitbird. Collecting the destroyed helmet of a dead guy isn't the same as collecting merchandise, and neither are anywhere near the same as repeatedly collecting body parts and cybernetics that have been very recently removed from the still living owner of said parts.

Yup, that was it

Arc?

I don't read the comic so anyone out there know if it was an arc? I had assumed it was a one-off story.

>Not wanting be shooting lightning like "zap mothefucker"

Nigga you gay

>lefitsts are mad about this because "muh female powur fantahsee!"

I'd do the exact same thing if I were Vader.

Story arcs don't have to be multiple issues, user. You can (and should) have a character arc in one single story.

you must be fucking kidding me. how long is that story? 8 pages? why people treat it as some war & peace novel?

Cortosis

They don't see it that way because they're too busy projecting. Apparently it's okay for females to do it (as long as they're fictional of course) because "female power fantasies" and the men do the same thing...even though literally no one on the marketing team wants you to dream about fucking Vader or any other Star Wars villain, and Kylo Ren existing and being similarly mocked.

Yes but to call any character arc that lasts less than 30 pages is hardly anything big enough to match the common idea of what someone means when they hear "arc".
It's like calling a short story an epic.

He looks so disapointed

>men fantasizing is objectification with real life consequences, if you fantasize about sexy women it demeans real women
>women fantasizing is empowering and it's just fantasy bro, if you fantasize about hot sex with a serial killer it doesn't affect anybody
This right here is why I fucking hate these people.

Yea Forums likes and defend this comic because it showcase violence against women.

>putting the surprise in the right page and not the left
Jesus...

and that's a good thing, t b q h

English reads left to right, user.

Retards forget that Vader murdered children without even having a second thought

A character arc can happen in a really short time. I don't know why y'all are so focused on a usage of the word you don't understand.

yeah, it can also happen anywhere, like in this thread. I can feel my character arc developing right now. In my pants. Do you want to review it? It's pretty big for a small arc

>not understanding how comic books work

You realize that's just a screengrab of a digital copy, right?

The woman was a psycho Nazi bitch not some girl next door who volunteers for soup kitchens and animal shelters.

The fact that a woman would see themselves in something like that is concerning.

What did she actually do that deserved to be mindlessly killed?

Dude, it's Darth fucking Vader. Since when do his victims need to deserve it?

Being evil and trusting Vader? There is no honour among thieves. Vader owed her nothing.

Think a psychopath with a history of killing people at random was in love with her. I'm not saying she deserved it, but she had it coming

Act like a crazy in front of the Lord of the Sith, a man known for killing younglings without hesitation.

working for Siths? it's not like she didn't enjoy being evil and being around evil people

The problem is with how a lot of women tend to sympathize with blatantly unsympathetic men. Tumblrinas are defending the kind of cunts who are attracted to Ted Bundy and Elliot Rodger.

>psycho bitch barges into your personal chamber to eyefuck you
>psycho bitch is very clearly a psycho bitch and more in love with the idea of you than what you actually are
>you, one of the most terrifying sith lords in history
>mindlessly killed

She was a nobody that saw him as something other than DARTH FUCKING VADER and deserved to die.

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I agree, but isn't the parallel men who are attracted to characters like Harley Quinn or Hela?

Could someone explain to me anyone would have someone that looks like that as a husbando? I’m talking the readers. He looks like some messed up fat and bald guy. I mean I’ve had weird husbandos but not like that. I’m not dissing, merely curious. I can’t believe he has fan girls.

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I'm pretty sure the VAST majority of men attracted to Harley are in it for her body, not her diseased mind. It's the opposite for this Vader fangirl.

Would you have given the crazy Nurse the D? Also
I just realized she must smell like garbage after rummaging through it.

No wonder Vader killed her.

Wiomen are attracted to powerful and proficient men. They don't get much more powerful than Darth Vader.

thots btfo

That was boring. Why did her lips suddenly become voluptuous when she is dead? Pure jack off fuel for you folks I guess.

>wtf, why was a crazy stalker covered in urine, feces, rotten trash, and bacterial slime murdered by an evil psychopathic psychic murder machine after she barged into his sterile chamber which he has to reside in when he's not in his sterile bodysuit because of his crippled immune system?!?!?!
Have sex, incel.

kek, can't unsee

I think these fangirls need to have sex so they stop having unhealthy obsessions over fictional villains.

Underrated post

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It’s Anakin who was super sexy before his downfall. A lot of them probably think they can save him back to that state.

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Anakin is Vader? I thought they were two separate characters. Tells you how much I know about Star Wars.

Are you serious
It's funnier if you are

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Possibly, except I don't self insert to the degree I'd feel offended or distraught if a villainess I like killed someone who likes them. I expect them to do it, because I accept that they're canonically evil (and speaking personally, I actually like them that way, I don't want to redeem them like most of these fangirls seem to want to).

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:(

The duality of man.

If I chose "fat Nurse that Darth Vader killed" for my Halloween costume this year, will anybody get it?

Imagine living long enough to use the internet, managing to somehow not know the most famous movie reveal of all time, and then you get it spoiled on a Chinese fingerpainting forum.

Remember to get the Despecialised Edition. Current version's dope

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You'll need the lightsaber through the chest to make it work

Lord Vader gave more than she deserves

>coping this hard
Why did this issue break so many people?

Yet another idiot who doesn't understand Vader.
I get that the comic is a joke, but it's obviously written from outrage.

it's a story. the point is that she has a wild fantasy about a space warlord, with natural results.

Probably shove a glow stick in a long clear balloon, poke it out of the back of the costume.

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what's funny is that most men view Kylo Ren as a brat, but most women want to ship him with Rey

>novice nurse barges into Darth Goddamn Vader's private quarters while he has his helmet off
>even his servant on Mustafar averts his eyes in R1 when Vader has his helmet off
>she is covered in garbage juice and is autistically obsessed with him
>expecting Vader to not merk her or have any leniency at all

hahaha

Rey is perfect. She is an empty character so it’s easy to self-insert.

Can we just go back in time? Circa 2000? Thanks.

It would be seen as a triumph if the genders were reversed in this scenario, and it was Harley Quinn killing an obsessed stalker creep.

How soon before an official comic apology has to come out?

Quinn is more times than not a hero these days and a lot of her past actions is given the she broke under the abuse of Joker. I know this Harely fangirl (like big fan of the character to the poor she cosplayed as her many times) who likes the character and she absolutely hates the Joker and Harley ship because she says it’s abusive as fuck. Her otp is Ivy/Harley with a side of Harley/Batman. The point is not all women are the same, they don’t all the madman.

It really didn't, it's just fun outrage that some people want to keep bringing up to enjoy until it stagnates into something horrible.
Hell I doubt the publicity didn't even generate that big of a bump in sales (though I guess we wouldn't find out until sales results come out for Dark Visions #3).

It won't. They'd be opening themselves up to so much more shit, especially since doing so would basically be admitting having Vader behave like a villain was "problematic".

I'd love to see it.
Get a heart shaped photo frame, and get one of those collapsible cheap light sabers so you can break it apart and glue both ends to your chest.

>pushing the publicity narrative as if anyone expected this reaction
This is what I'm talking about, coper

Why the fuck would they apologize?

Then she probably isn't upset about this Vader situation either. I'm saying the people who hate this would love it if the genders were flipped, even if it shouldn't make any difference.

Hopeless knew full well what he was doing. This is proven through the fact that how comically exaggerated her fantasies were written and drawn. It was a bait for reactions. If he wanted good storytelling he would have been more subtle.

>fat
Is she?
She has nice, broad shoulders but she's not fat.

There's actually multiple factions in play here. You've got the originally pissed off Anakin/Kylo fangirls who saw this as a direct assault on them. Then you've got the SJWs, who chimed in to make this all about problematic behavior towards female characters. Those two groups aren't necessarily the same, though there's bound to be some overlap. Then you got the genuine misogynists who read this the same as the above, but thought that was good because fuck those cunts.

Meanwhile everybody who read the comic prior to the politicization just thought it was a tragedy of a delusional lonely woman falling in love with a man who didn't care about her.

She's got a chunky face, might just be fridge-mode.
Fatter than she is in her fantasies at least.

You forgot to add SJWs that know nothing about Star Wars and wouldn’t even care about Star Wars if they hadn’t seen this controversy on their feed.

Do she got the booty?
>One read online later
Eh ... Kinda? She ain't fat, but she ain't fit. She was built for a forgettable average bodytype.
6/10 at most reasonable, 4-5/10 if you don't like the timid crazyeye.

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Garbage-chan is a solid 7 at least

I don't think anyone thinks Kylo Ren is cool, lady. His obsession with Vader was also seen as a huge joke.

because all companies just cave in an apologize anymore, even if they deliberately did something like this for the controversy in the first place. they have to pretend like they really didn't mean to upset anyone.

If a this character was male they would be praising this comic as a milestone of feminist art

I think it depends on how much backlash they get. Right now, they just can't stop sucking up to the "fangirls"

7 if you're into that, which I am, but Vader clearly ain't .

I mean you WOULD need to be a perfect 10 to compete with prime Natalee Portman in Vader's eyes.

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I like Kylo but I don't think he's cool
His helmet, on the other hand, is cool.

this comic is basically an allegory for women who fetishize mass murderers, and it shows how it would end in real life

that's why twitter roasties are so mad, this is a personal attack for them lmao

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>This was canon
How is an aborted sequel to Empire Strikes Back canon

>The little Mermaid is a female power fantasy
What the fuck?
Why?
How?
The Rose of Versailles is a female power fantasy, and a great one at that.
(Classic) She Hulk is a female power fantasy.
The Sisters of Battle are a female power fantasy.
God-fucking damnit, if The Little Mermaid is a female power fantasy, then Patsy and Hedy must be feminist literature.
Fucking Christ.

>idolize mass murderer
>be surprised that he kills you

woww!!

I'm suprised that she wasn't killed the moment she opened the door. Also, we need a Vader 'looking at garbage' edit on the to pannel here

>I mean you WOULD need to be a perfect 10 to compete with prime Natalee Portman in Vader's eyes.
Not just in his eyes.

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I think I was confused by how her clean suit is shaped.

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Yeah you'd have to be crazy to think that.

Best I could do on mobile
Fuck

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so basically the fangirls who identify with her

It's only okay for girls to be creepy, obsessive stalkers, not boys.

not him but did this as well

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Cuz girls are dum bitches

High five bro

>men as obsessive fanboys
wow creepy virgin stalker with no life, kill yourself

>women as obsessive fangirls
its female empowerment!

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That face is sending some mixed messages

Yes that is why we have had 10 threads a day for nearing two weeks saying otherwise.

Like yeah wanting to identify with the stalkergirl is retarded and the few crazy fangirls and outrage clickbait writers are retarded.
But there is only so much to complain about before you look like a weirdo who's going out of your way to be upset about them.

Honestly? I’m more upset he stabbed her instead of choking her.

I mean come one! He’s Darth Vader! That’s his signature! How many times has he choked someone out with the Force?!!

Reading this make me think she's the kind of woman who send love letter to serial killer.

Kylo obsession for Vador isn't cool or empowering it's making i'm an angsty teenager.
Dexter blood collection are ritualistic trophy nobody thought it was cool but part of his M.O.

But even without that how the fuck being obsessive about someone to the point of wanting to be in a dominated position of a sociopath is empowering ?

maybe she wants to fuck the Garbage monster in the Deathstar

He choked a rebel with his hand in the beginning of A New Hope.

He was feeling lazy and was in stabbing range.
I bet if she had kept her distance he would have thrown the lightsaber at her, and if it hadn't hit he would have felt like "ah fuckit all she lives, just leave the death star and never return" as he rolls over for a Vader nap.

all feminists secretly want to be dominated by sociopaths, as long as they are hot/tall

t. trash

Name one time Marvel or Lucasfilm apologized for something like this.
The only time I can remember ANY comic apologizing is when DC backtracked on publishing Batdick.

She became the garbage monster.

>Content warning
Jesus christ, it's a comic book for children.

That's hot

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All that needs to be said, really. Hopeless isn't a great writer but at least he knows how to deal with these people in a rational manner.

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I read a genderbent version of Twilight recently. It’s crazy how much less creepy it came off. It was like a generic clumsy male protagonists falls in love with a powerful monster chick. Typical anime plot.

wasn't there a whole kerflooey about that spider woman cover. I don't remember what did Marvel ultimately say about that. I know DC did some grovelling over the Batgirl cover that freaked out the girls.

this

Why is he being such a pussy about this?

Garbage-chan x dianoga x Vader OT3

This seems like crowd control. Which honestly I'd do the same thing.
Why have online records of you arguing to defend a story that will probably get 30k in comic sales at best.

Good on the author for sticking to his story, but he doesn't really need to explain anything. If readers can't understand that Darth Vader is a bad person, there's no point in trying to reason with them. These are the same people who ship characters together in a universe where a genocide happens every other week.

yeah, I doubt he's truly sorry, but can't afford to piss people off.

>I'm not here to tell you how to read it
>but you're reading it wrong
Is Hopeless based?

Why is he even taking that sad cunt seriously?

He doesn't want her stalking him.

Thanks Anons
Because he didnt want to touch the garbage covered crazy lady

>he doesn't really need to explain anything
Well I don't think it helped that fucking Wendig poured fuel on the fire by saying his original concept for the book (apparently he was writing it at some point, or something, I don't fucking know) was that Garbage was male. And everyone clapped because clearly, that would have made everything better. I'd honestly be fucking livid with him if I was Hopeless.

what was vader supposed to do? get up and give her a hug and a kiss and tell her that shes flawless and perfect and go off and marry her?
the fuck?

This would be some 4D chess shit if it were true.
You wouldn't want the people upset over this to latch onto you, so you better be nice to establish you aren't their fucked up type.

And it's boring to women readers like me. I want my dangerous stalker gorgeous monster boys, not generic clumsy male protagonists that are boring and annoying and unsatisfying.

"professional" courtesy, per usual, wendig can just say "that was just my pitch, nothin' personnel" and hopeless will know better than to burn bridges since the twitter brigade likes wendig.

and yes, wendig was going to write this, but since he couldn't shut his mouth about muh currentyear politics, he said so much shit that even marlel said that was too much and they cut him off the project.

#powerful

Edyth Cullen was way better than Edward though. She was funny, sarcastic, more assertive, and way more likeable. Edward was more serious and brooding. It’s one of the big reasons why it came off as creepy I think.

Sorry but since I'm not into women all that crap is useless, she's not likable because she's not what I am attracted to and her being a woman makes it so she does nothing for me, she's just annoying. On the other hand I like serious and brooding in a man, it does not come off as creepy at all. Being an irritating generic clumsy male is much worse.

I’m a girl too and I much preferred the genderbent version. I like competent female characters and even Beau was way more competent than Bella. Also the ending change was great.

yes thats what the fangirls wanted

bait

Yeah, I think Hopeless is handling it right, I just mean it was particularly shitty of Wendig to basically use this opportunity to try and curry more favour with the Twitter mob, which was obviously going to come at Hopless' expense. Wendig's a shit.

They're pissed because, for the first time in years, a comic book as accurately portrayed a woman and they all know it's true.

As I said, that is completely irrelevant to me, I prefer the normal version because it satisfies me while the genderbent version does not. I do not care for female characters in my romance, their only purpose is to be a self-insert for me so they don't matter and the less space they take the better. The clumsy generic male love interest does not satisfy me either. All in all, it's shit, I'll take the normal version thanks.

Oof just read smut fanfictions and eroticas. Please don’t ruin good changes for your fantasies.

See

I read Twilight and had the most fun imagining that Edward is just vaguely sociopathic but likes to take pets/thralls every fifty years or so.
I didn't find him remotely fuckable.

I think the jury isn't in session for if Sisters are any more of a female power fantasy than being Vader's nurse desu.

I read whatever I want. And it's your changes that are ruining my already good fantasies, so really you're one to talk.

>my already good fantasies
>Twilight

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I hope you find the right man who can put you in your place.

His first mistake was to make a twitter account.

you need it if you want to work on these industries

What satisfies me is what's good.
What doesn't is shit.

Criminally underrated.

90% of eroticas are written better than Twilight. It will satisfy you.

hot

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I'll decide what satisfies me and what doesn't, thanks.

Bad writing?

Nah. Just what caters to my tastes perfectly.

why are some women mad? Is it because the woman died or was it the way she was portrayed?

this should've just force choked her like the rest.

Why use the force when she's in stabbing range? No need to flex on garbage in private.

>all the incels in this thread

yikes

So fangirls admit to going after the genocidal, child-murdering types.
Are they trying to signal something about their values?

The day women will be granted the same freedom men have to lust after genocidal, child-murdering types will be a great day for humanity.

Do they have Joseph Stalin body pillows in their rooms?

no because he isn't what's hip with the physique of handsome men in $CurrentYear
if he had kylo ren's looks then you'd be lost in a sea of daimakaimuras

they already have the same freedom fuckwit

and give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types

SS anime boy bodypillows are a hit with both ladies and gentlemen.
Communism is shit.

>give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types

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if it were a man lusting after a genocidal female sith and people complained about him dying i would say the same thing

your argument fails

>give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types
I think user was being sarcastic m8, but I genuinely do love villainesses. Only in fiction though, because I know the difference between fantasy and reality and a fantasy woman hasn't really killed anyone.

In reality, I dunno, Ernst Rohm?

I don't see you saying that about the brave soldiers who died for Saddam-chan

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Shall I post the whole series anons? Here's Stalin-chan for you dumb commies.

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Mussolini-chan. You can see her panties~

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Salazar-chan. She's a very pious woman.

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Lord Dominator
Queen Tyrah'nee
Sylvanas Windrunner
Daenarys Chargin'Targe
Assaj Ventress

Tito-chan. Her babies were so disciplined while still under her care, then they grew up to be deliquents :(

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Franco-chan. Like all spaniards, she's a bit lazy.

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Milosevic-chan. I admit I don't know much about her but she looks in trouble!

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Pidulski-chan. She got sandwiched between between Stalin-chan and Hitler-chan.

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The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Andersen
>Its better than sex
Anonymous, 2019

Mao-chan. She's happy~

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Jedi Ambush Vader by sending him false info about ObiWan.

It was disabled so Vader used the sword instead.

It's not normal. It made of rare metal that can disable Lightsabers and Deflect blaster shots.

if he were gay?

Kim II Sung-chan. No bully!

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Tojo-chan. She prefers to be addressed as Tojo-sama.

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Didn’t Chuck Windig say he originally had the nurse character as a male?

Castro-chan. Again a dumb communist.

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Pinochet-chan. If she likes you, she'll invite you to one of her helicopter rides.

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I wish Cuck Wendig had written this story as a gay man lusting over Vader and getting killed, Twitter would have turned on him in an instant.

Chavez-chan. Her successor Madura-chan is having a lot of trouble at the moment!

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Gaddafi-chan. Apparently she's a furry.

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You people be making up some strawbogeywoman to complain about?

Mugabe-chan. She's very wasteful with money.

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Does she LOOK like Padme to you, bitch?

Omar al Bashir-chan. If I cared more about Africa I might be able to tell you something interesting about her!

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Except that was literally how the people whining about this reacted when Wendig brought up that he was going to make the character male. I can't be fucked to look it up but you can, the gist of people's responses was
>that would have been so much better!

And last but not least Mengitsu Haile Mariam-chan. Again I know nothing about African dictators, but her kalashnikov is cool.

I hope you enjoyed fapping to some of the world's most brutal dictators user! Don't be ashamed, you aren't alone!

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But those aren't the dictators. Those dictators are all men.

I think people are missing the point. No-one gives a shit if you fap to Darth Vader or r63 Darth Vaderess, it's the self-insertion and taking personally a known evil, ruthless character killing someone that's the thing that's so hard to understand here.

They are those dictators. They got turned into lolis and women to sexually appeal appropriately to their fans.

So you're saying they're different

I'm not sure what point the other user is trying to make to be honest. That if someone drew a dictator in an attractive or cute way people would find them attractive or cute?
Precisely what is that supposed to prove, exactly?

Name of the comic?

this one is the only good design from entire set, actually looks like genderbent anime Saddam and not some random chick with swastikas plastered in background

Only in that they have tits and vaginas not to hurt your heterosexuality. The murdering and genociding is still present.

Well said "give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types"
So I did

Looked more like it was a jab at her left ventricle.

I already admitted I'm a Ventressfag earlier in the thread and that I like villainous women, I think he just wanted an excuse to post those pics desu.

This. Most of those are terrible genderbends, they should at least be identifiable without explanation, most of these aren't.

Are you fat enough for it, user?

>Only in that they have tits and vaginas
And those are the parts that are attractive.
(Also, they significantly aged down)

Except they're not lusting after the dictators.
They're lusting after the physical appearance of fictional anime characters that look nothing like them.

Replace Vader with the name of any real world serial killer and the issue becomes more evident, honestly.

>those are the parts that are attractive
If that were the case they wouldn't have gone out their way to point out those tits and vagina belong to Hitler, that's literally Hitler you're fapping to, not some random animu girl.

Get to the point user, stop dancing around it. What do you actually want to say here?

Then they would just fap to hitler if they found hitler attractive.
But they don't.
The picture had to be drawn entirely different from hitler's likeness to be attractive.
Which means the difference is, surprise: attractive features.

>they're not lusting after the dictators
Sorry but you are.
By the way, I forgot about Pol Pot-chan.

>look nothing like them
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pinochet, Tojo and Saddam area all easily recognizable. Pol Pot-chan too.

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Work for the space nazis

Yeah, I, too, can't believe how shitty the art is.

>they would just fap to hitler if they found hitler attractive
Why would straight men fap to a man?

>The picture had to be drawn entirely different from hitler's likeness to be attractive
Well yeah, heterosexual men like women.
But the murdering and genociding is still the same, user, don't worry.

Me? Nothing more than I already said here .

Kylo Ren is a fucking loser though

>Sorry but you are.
You meant to say they here, I think.
Unfortunately, even then, your argument's been reduced to, "yes huh."

>Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pinochet, Tojo and Saddam area all easily recognizable. Pol Pot-chan too.
I see zero resemblance in any of these.

>Why would straight men fap to a man?
They clearly don't.
So the only reason they're fapping is because they're drawn attractive.

>I see zero resemblance
I see plenty references.

>your argument's been reduced to, "yes huh"
Your argument is that people are fapping to pictures with no relation to the dictators, but as you can see in the spread here the pictures are accompanied by all info about who these dictators were and what they did in real life, it's not a random picture, it's genderbent Hitler. You are fapping to a loli that genocided millions of people. That's what you're doing.

twitter.com/graemem/status/1121188687402770432
>wtf he called her garbage!?

>the only reason they're fapping is because they're drawn attractive
Wrong! They're drawn attractive AND they're dictators.

I am PROUD to fap to Stalin, because he made Russia the greatest country on the face of the planet by getting rid of all the filth and focusing on its military might. Jews started criticizing Stalin not because they legitimately thought he was in the wrong, but because they were afraid of him taking their precious shekels. If they were in Stalin's position, they wouldn't act any differently.

So we've established both men and women fap to fictional villains, great. I for one was not ever disputing that point. But by specifically using r63 art of real world dictators you appear to also be suggesting that by fapping to an anime girl you're really fapping to literally Hitler, which is retarded.

You could have used plenty of entirely fictional female villains and made your point just the same without this extra off-topic argument of "you like fapping to Hitler and Stalin", so why have you chosen this particular route?

Except they fap to attractive characters that aren't dictators as well. And they don't fap to (unattractive) photos of the dictators themselves. The only difference between them is one's attractive and the other's not.
That's why they're fapping to them. Because they find them hot.

But that anime girl is Hitler. She's Hitler as a little girl. Imagine Hitler's life, but with a loli in place of a man. How is it not Hitler? Does the Holocaust not matter anymore if it's a loli that's calling for the extermination of the Jews?

>Your argument is
Stop putting words in people's mouths.

It's a picture. Of Hitler drawn as a little girl.

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>they fap to attractive characters that aren't dictators
>This is Hitler-chan, she killed 6 million Jews
>not a dictator
user are you sure someone like that isn't a dictator?

Honest question: Is Rey a mary sue?
twitter.com/secretreylo/status/1122940793986134017

And is Hitler a dictator or not?

>You'd find this dictator physically attractive if they were drawn that way!
What point are you trying to get at?

>Puts words in other people's mouth
>Throws a tantrum when people do the same to her
Who spit in your bean curd?

>they fap to attractive characters that aren't dictators as well*

Star Wars: Purge.

>Puts words in other people's mouth
This didn't happen.

>give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types
>here's a bunch of genocidal murdering lolis
You: n-no t-that's not valid!!

But they are, in fact, dictators.

>Does the Holocaust not matter anymore
I'm tempted to say "no" and destroy what little semblance of topic the thread has left.

>They're friends!

Yes.
Because they find them attractive.
Again, what point are you trying to make?

Actually it did. My argument has never been "Yes huh".
My argument is you're fapping to dictators. You're okay with fapping to dictators so long as they're little girls.

>Because they find them attractive.
And they're dictators.
You find murdering genociding lolis attractive.

>My argument has never been "Yes huh".
Because it is. It's been nothing but proof by assertion this entire thread.

>You find murdering genociding lolis attractive
I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but if I admit that I do will you stop?

>As you can see in the spread here (You)
the pictures are accompanied by all info about who these dictators were and what they did in real life, it's not a random picture, it's genderbent Hitler. You are fapping to a loli that genocided millions of people. That's what you're doing.

it was a monday and he'd not even had his Sith coffee.

>And they're dictators.
Yes.

>You find murdering genociding lolis attractive.
No.

No, I'm enjoying this thread. We never get to talk about loli Hitler.

>You are fapping to a loli that genocided millions of people. That's what you're doing.
This is an accusation without proof. This is your argument. And it's literally, "yes huh."

nobody's talking about loli hitler.
They're arguing semantics about who faps to what and guessing about why.

>marry raoul christine it's what's best for you!

..yes? She wanted to marry raoul - the phantom was the creep who didn't want her to. Forget if this chick has seen any star wars movies has she even seen phantom of the opera?

Yeah, WTF took Vader so long to kill her. Dude has lost his edge and needs to retire.

Press F for This Garbage. She died as she lived.

man, whoever drew vader's face here has that "dead inside" look down to a science.

>This is an accusation without proof
Are you fapping, user?
Are you fapping to a picture of loli Hitler?
Are you fapping to loli Hitler knowing, being loli Hitler, she did genocide the Jews, genocide Poland, suppress free thought, murder gays, assassinate her own men?
If so, you are fapping to a loli that genocided millions of people.
>inb4 "I'm not fapping"
Someone else is.

This Garbage-chan is mai waifu

>Someone else is.

Backpedaling hardcore here.
In your own words:
>My argument is you're fapping to dictators.
Your argument is wrong and now you're trying to backpedal on it.

>"Collecting massive amounts of Darth Vader is only cool when boys do it"
It was portrayed as deranged when Kylo Ren did it too. What's this girl's problem?

I'm so fucking lost

You take your (You)s awfully personal user. My (You)s are always generic.

>muh Legends had bad stuff
just off yourself, mouseshill

Even the younglings?

You asserted I was putting words in your mouth. I took that personally.
I didn't put words in your mouth.

>You asserted I was putting words in your mouth
But you did.

I said your argument was just, "yes huh." You were asserting something was true without any proof.
Which is true. In your own words:
>My argument is you're fapping to dictators.

You kept asserting this was true without any proof. It's no exaggeration to call the argument just you repeating, "yes huh" again and again.

Based and blackpilled. Vader knows a woman could never love him because of his face because they are soulless animals. The only reason she was attracted to him was because of his power, but if a Chad Jedi came to save her or a Chad Sith conquered him, she would immediately backstab him. Vader isn't a simp who overvalues female affection, so he disposes of the whore. Truly, and utterly, based.

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>Comic comes out about an obsessive and crazy Vader fan confessing her love to him and getting killed for it
>Twitter thinks it's problematic because the story involves bad things happening to a woman
There, you're all caught up.

>I said your argument was just, "yes huh"
Which is false as my argument, as I have repeatedly told you now, is

>user said give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types
>so I did

Then you started arguing that men aren't lusting after murdering genocidal types because the dictators are lolis, but that's retarded because loli Hitler does everything Hitler did just as a loli, which makes her a murdering genodical type men lust after, and when I pointed that out you got butthurt and tried to make this all about yourself.

You forgot:
>Yeah but if someone drew Sadam Hussein as an attractive woman you'd find her attractive!

He left it in his other cloak.

I can assure you plenty men find Saddam-chan attractive.

Get a fucking Tesla Coil if you want to shoot lightning that bad. I'll be over here meditating on the nature of being a huge pussy so I can live forever as a special effect.

>Which is false as my argument, as I have repeatedly told you now, is
Right here. You literally said what your argument is.
"My argument is you're fapping to dictators."
How many times do I have to link you telling me what your argument is?
It's literally an assertion without any proof.
I.e. "yes huh."

I meant with the thread

Isn't that some kind of bone sickness? What the fuck are your brittle bones going to do against a lightsaber?

Because the artist drew her attractive.
What fucking point is that supposed to prove? That men find attractively drawn pictures attractive?

She would've just said "Harder, daddy!" and then things would get super-weird.

lightsaber are fucking stupid

>here
Nope user. I first explained my point to you here And you then got on rant that when you fap to loli Hitler you aren't really fapping to a dictator, which makes no sense. Loli Hitler is a dictator, or a "murdering genociding type" if you prefer.

Sounds like you're the one backpedaling.

>Because the artist drew her attractive
And because she is a dictator.

>That men find attractively drawn pictures attractive?
That men find dictators attractive when they're women.

Amazing.

>Nope user.
"My argument is you're fapping to dictators."
You literally told me what your argument was.
You're either being obtuse on purpose or just trolling outright. For what reason, I don't know. But that was your argument.

>And because she is a dictator.
Finding a woman physically attractive does not mean you find all aspects of that woman attractive. Why you're making this claim, I do not know, but it's patently false.

>That men find dictators attractive when they're attractive women.*

this must be the hot new meme all the soccer moms cant stop talking about

Nope, user. Here you say:
>I'm not sure what point the other user is trying to make
And here I literally tell you:
>107416447 said "give me examples when men lust after genocidal murdering types"
>So I did

Are you trolling or are you really that obtuse?

>Nope
So then this is a misunderstanding then?
This isn't your post?

You fucks having your autistic argument have gone on long enough

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More like a crazy stalker that collects pieces of a dangerous psychopath and gets killed for it. Neither were very sympathetic. If she hadn't gone after Darth Vader she would have probably murdered whoever else it was.

She's a dictator and you, man, find her attractive. Even if you claim not to find all aspects of her attractive, you still find her attractive, you are lusting after her. Her being a dictator is not so unattractive to you you'd find her unattractive, at least you don't care, at most it turns you on.
Fact is, you lust after a dictator when it's a woman.

>You will never do something so memorable that you become permanently etched in history.
>There will never be cute and sexy genderbent drawings of you.

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Especially the younglings.

>Her being a dictator is not so unattractive to you you'd find her unattractive,
Because physical attraction does not work that way.
Your eyes do not change the image that your brain receives when you learn someone is a dictator, murderer, or monster or whatever.
This is not an advanced concept.
What you find morally reprehensible has no bearing on what you find physically attractive. Not for psychological or behavioral reasons. But physical ones. Arousal and attraction are physical processes over which you have little to no control.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses, user. My attraction dies when I find out a woman has done something I personally abhor. If yours doesn't, maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much.

Emotional of physical attraction?
Because we're talking physical. Emotional is one thing and most men would say the same as you. Physical attraction and arousal is different.

>If yours doesn't, maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much.
Arousal is physical and disliking someone that much won't change how they look or what you think is arousing or attractive. If someone's arousal or physical attraction however was contingent on agreeing with their beliefs or actions, then that's a very troubling conclusion. Since it would then mean that most women who are rape victims achieve orgasm during their rape. Which would imply they are really enjoying it.

Of course if what you say is true, and it's normal to find someone no longer attractive if they are morally reprehensible - Then what does it mean when a woman finds themselves emotionally attracted to the disfigured vader from the comic, who is by all means a morally reprehensible, downright evil character? Explicitly being attracted to his CHARACTER.

Physical.

Well at the risk of seguing too much, do you believe in gay conversion camps/therapy? That is, do you think it works?

>Emotional or physical attraction?
They're one and the same to a lot of people, user. Attraction is not compartmentalized. Especially the type to claim a waifu does not, in fact, separate emotional from physical when they claim that Hitler-chan is mai waifu.

>what does it mean when a woman finds themselves emotionally attracted to the disfigured vader from the comic, who is by all means a morally reprehensible, downright evil character?
Well, Vader is still a fictional character who has his justifications for who he is, he was deceived by the Palpatine, Luke in ROTJ proves there's still good in him - it's just buried under layers and layers of despair, plus it's a fictional character so he never actually killed anyone, most people can easily make the distinction between fantasy and fiction. Not that troubling imo.

What's troubling is the Hitler-chan fanboys, because Hitler really did exist, he really genocided people, it's not just all in your head. There's no redeeming here, unless you literally buy into Nazi propaganda. What does it mean that they find themselves emotionally attracted to someone who really, actually committed crimes?

>fantasy and fiction
Fantasy and reality. Weird typo, huh.

>They're one and the same to a lot of people, user. Attraction is not compartmentalized.
Except when it is. See also rape victims and gay conversion camps. A gay man who finds men sexually and physically attractive/arousing that is taught from a young age even, throughout their adolescence and even one who goes to a conversion camp and is taught nothing else but that their attraction is immoral and sinful? And they will STILL find men attractive. And this bears out in their 'successful' conversion rates. Which are statistically near zero. Even the most extreme camps will outright state their goal is not to change what gay men and women find physically or sexually arousing and attractive, and go on to state in their mission statements that such a result is pretty much impossible.
Because what you're suggesting, that what you find immoral, evil, bad or wrong isn't going to have any affect on what they already found attractive.

tl;dr
What you find evil, bad or wrong doesn't change what you find physically attractive.

Wait, do you mean Hitler-chan as in the cute girl version of Hitler or are you just being cheeky when referring to Hitler?

Nothing stops gay men in gay conversion camps to fantasize about men though, adding the emotional component to the physical. In fact gay men that go to gay conversion camps stay in the closet for so long specifically what they're being taught - that their attraction is immoral and sinful - conflicts with their emotions, their desire to love and be loved by a man and not a woman, and that conflict sends them into despair. If they had no emotions, there would be no internal conflict at all.

>what you find immoral, evil, bad or wrong isn't going to have any affect on what they already found attractive
Say that to the men that are physically repulsed by their wives, women they found incredibly attractive barely a minute ago, when they find out their wives have been cheating and their kid isn't really theirs.

Again:
What of the majority of women who experience orgasm when they were the victim of a rape?
They're most assuredly repulsed by their rapist. Yet their body does not react that way.
I can only balk at one conclusion:
Finding a sexy picture sexy, or a cute one cute is not a moral failing in this circumstance or context.

How come we get this same thread every time?

Yes, some people are delusional enough to fall in love with villains. It’s not a phenomenon exclusive to women - look at how many anime series have female villains who are just misunderstood, and join the self-insert MC’s harem. Even in Yea Forums, it’s more like anons want to BE the villains instead. Do you not remember that time where everybody likened themselves to the Joker? Or how so many Rick and Morty fans think themselves to be Rick?

People have delusions of grandeur, and think they are the only one who understands the dark and brooding. That if they peel off their layers, like a pit in a plum, they’ll suddenly become the perfect lover. It’s human nature. We don’t need you to post this specific example a hundred times only because you’re happy a tumblr user got upset over it.

>What of the majority of women who experience orgasm when they were the victim of a rape?
Involutary side effect of evolution. Because women were raped so much during prehistory, the human female body has evolved to lubricate and create a false positive response during rape to protect itself, as a dry vagina risks tearing and bleeding and damage to internal organs WAY more than a lubricated one. It's an involuntary reaction as much as screaming when reacting to pain. Their body reacts in the best way it can to minimize damage, does not mean they wanted it.

>Finding a sexy picture sexy, or a cute one cute is not a moral failing in this circumstance or context
Are you saying that because you're upset that I brought you plenty examples of men lusting after murdering, genociding types or do you genuinely think that of anyone, women too? Genuine question.

>Do you not remember that time where everybody likened themselves to the Joker? Or how so many Rick and Morty fans think themselves to be Rick?
I remember when people made fun these nonstop.

Which implied that someone took it seriously at some point.

I mean, we have the same issue here. How many threads about Vicky or Pacifica or that crazy chick from Wakfu have we had?

Wow its like Dark Vador is a vilain or something

>sexy as fuck guy
>not sexy

>Involutary side effect of evolution. Because women were raped so much during prehistory, the human female body has evolved to lubricate and create a false positive response during rape to protect itself, as a dry vagina risks tearing and bleeding and damage to internal organs WAY more than a lubricated one. It's an involuntary reaction as much as screaming when reacting to pain. Their body reacts in the best way it can to minimize damage, does not mean they wanted it.
That's precisely the point here user. It's biological. Physical. I'm not saying they wanted it at _all._ I'm saying they clearly didn't want it, but the biological process of arousal here doesn't stop to ask for 'permission,' so to speak, from higher brain functions before going straight to arousal. That's not how it works in men either. Usually an erection bypasses those functions as well.

>Are you saying that because you're upset that I brought you plenty examples of men lusting after murdering, genociding types or do you genuinely think that of anyone, women too? Genuine question.
Is it a genuine question? You'll forgive me for being guarded and questioning your sincerity considering how you posed that. Nevertheless, a genuine answer would be the latter:
It's clear that if a woman gets her panties soaked because she found Dexter hunky or Eric Harris hot doesn't mean she finds what they did right or even that she thinks they're anything but assholes. Though, sometimes that seems to happen either way with men and women where people will try to rationalize the horrible things their crushes have done.

Ahem
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK WOMEN
FUCK CARTOONS
FUCK COMICS
AND FUCK JANNIES

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>Which implied that someone took it seriously at some point.
I can't say I remember very many people seriously comparing themselves to the joker or rick in a very positive way. I'm sure it happened, but the posts that were ironic or mocking it were far more numerous.

the difference is that women get pissy when their delusions are made fun of

>It's biological
It's also not the same as a real orgasm, one where the woman is not afraid for her life and wants it. In a real orgasm the sensations are much stronger, whereas during rape it's just the sensation of the vagina getting wet to protect itself that makes them think they're having an "orgasm" when in truth they're not, they're just ignorant about their bodies. And because they don't know it's not really a orgasm, there's also always devastating internal conflict.

>the biological process of arousal here doesn't stop to ask for permission
But it takes a conscious choice for you to choose to put your hand on your dick, start fapping, and keep fapping. Just because you have an erection doesn't mean you have to do anything with it. Ever heard of NoFap?

>sometimes that seems to happen either way with men and women where people will try to rationalize the horrible things their crushes have done
Well, to play devil's advocate, they're just seeing things from another perspective and don't necessarily find those things horrible. For example, to the neo-nazi /pol/tard or the tankie /pol/tard what Hitler and Stalin did is not horrible, in fact the jews/kulaks deserved it. It's all quite relative. Less acceptable when real life is concerned though.

>-.-
kys

Wow. Really?
-.-

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There are different kinds of people who like villains though, there are those fantasize about being with them as they are and who don't want them to change, and there are those who fantasize about redeeming them with their love/cock/vagina. The latter seem to be far more prone to spazzing out about how characters act in canon (because their idea of the characters is less how they're portrayed in media and more personal fanfiction) and also predominately female.

>It's also not the same as a real orgasm, one where the woman is not afraid for her life and wants it. In a real orgasm the sensations are much stronger, whereas during rape it's just the sensation of the vagina getting wet to protect itself that makes them think they're having an "orgasm" when in truth they're not, they're just ignorant about their bodies. And because they don't know it's not really a orgasm, there's also always devastating internal conflict.
Based on a 2016 study of 5000 anonymous patients, one psychologist noted that the orgasms were in fact a physiological response and they very much did in fact, achieve an actual real orgasm. Everything else you said isn't wrong, but they did have actual orgasms just as intense as any other where consent was involved. Again, this doesn't mean the experiences were consensual at all like you said.

>But it takes a conscious choice for you to choose to put your hand on your dick, start fapping, and keep fapping. Just because you have an erection doesn't mean you have to do anything with it
And? This doesn't make fapping to it a mark of condoning the behavior of the character/person either. Fapping to a villainess or villain for example isn't saying you think what they did is any less evil necessarily. You just think they look hot. Like if someone were to fap to ventress or something to continue the starwars example.

>Well, to play devil's advocate, they're just seeing things from another perspective and don't necessarily find those things horrible. For example, to the neo-nazi /pol/tard or the tankie /pol/tard what Hitler and Stalin did is not horrible, in fact the jews/kulaks deserved it.
Well that's what I said. They rationalize it. They try to look at it from a perspective or explain it to themselves or to someone else that what hitler and stalin did wasn't wrong. Again that's rationalization at play there.
In that case you're trying to condone that behavior in some fashion or another.

This. I love villains because they are villains. Don't give me that 'I'm gonna change him with muh luuurve' bullshit.

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>women
>ever

>that
>beautiful

He clearly killed her either for lying or having no standards.

In the end, she did wind up getting penetrated.

Is this person seriously arguing that it's bad that some crazy girl falling in love with a mass murderer is portrayed as a self-destructive relationship?

>Based on a 2016 study of 5000 anonymous patients, one psychologist noted that the orgasms were in fact a physiological response and they very much did in fact, achieve an actual real orgasm
I gotta doubt this. Most women live their wholes lives not even knowing what an orgasm feels like. Nothing stops those women from thinking "I got wet = I had an orgasm" even though that's not correct.

>This doesn't make fapping to it a mark of condoning the behavior of the character/person either
It doesn't not make it, either. Fapping is a conscious choice, it's presumed if you fap to villainess you know she's a villainess, so you're making a choice to fap to a villainess here.

>You just think they look hot
Sorry but for a lot of people it goes much deeper than that.

>They rationalize it
I gotta disagree here, you try to rationalize something you know is bad, if you say Hitler did nothing wrong and the jews dserved it you're not rationalizing - you're affirming something you believe to be the truth, it's a belief held much deeper than simple rationalizing. I'll look up if there's a word for it.

>They try to look at it
There is no try. They do look at it like that
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>In that case you're trying to condone that behavior in some fashion or another
No, they don't condone it. They accept it. It it wrong to say they condone it since they aren't
overlooking, forgiving, or disregarding, they're embracing it as their moral good.

/pol/ is always arguing that it's bad to tell them that being neo-nazi is a self-destructive choice.

>They're one and the same to a lot of people, user. Attraction is not compartmentalized.
For some people it is, for others it isn't. I had an enlightening conversation about exactly this subject with a female friend, and she was adamant that knowing someone had done something she found abhorrent would absolutely make her less physically attracted to them. Until that point I had never even considered this might be a thing. I'd still find someone sexy even if they had committed genocide, I might think they were a terrible person but that knowledge would in no way alter my PHYSICAL attraction to them.

the little mermaid sucks;
at least the original ending does.

should be that she doesn't turn to foam and she's stuck as a human and eventually just lives a mundane life in the human world.

the stepping on knives and the loss of voice being more due to the anatomical changes she underwent than anything else.

>Because, you know, collecting massive amounts of Darth Vader stuff is only cool when boys do it.
Jesus christ. Imagine being so fucking stupid you fail to understand a character from the sequel movies.

What about when your wife tells you she's been sucking Chad's dick and getting his cock into her vagina behind your back for the past 3 years?

Well that would be a personal betrayal and I wouldn't want to be with them any more, but I still don't think I would suddenly stop finding them physically attractive. Like that wouldn't suddenly make them fat and make their tits shrivel up.

I mean porn stars take hundreds of cocks but that doesn't stop anyone fapping to them. Doesn't stop some people marrying them. Some people aren't jealous and have open relationships. Not for me, but some people are okay with that.

>I gotta doubt this. Most women live their wholes lives not even knowing what an orgasm feels like. Nothing stops those women from thinking "I got wet = I had an orgasm" even though that's not correct.
Whether or not it was a "real" orgasm or not, by that logic, would be a guess in either case. There's no way to to know that they do or don't have a real orgasm. I could just as easily doubt that they didn't have one because again, if they don't know, how can we?

>It doesn't not make it, either. Fapping is a conscious choice, it's presumed if you fap to villainess you know she's a villainess, so you're making a choice to fap to a villainess here.
Choosing to fap to something isn't indicative of the morals of the person fapping one way or another, user. That's the point. And trying to say that someone must invariably agree with the politics someone (fictional or otherwise) if they fap to a depiction of that individual is a guess at best and it's severely disingenuous if not outright false. Things like, "well if you got off to that character you must not find what they did very abhorrent" is outright wrong.
There's no connection to what you find right or wrong and what you choose to fap to.

>Sorry but for a lot of people it goes much deeper than that.
Good for them. Doesn't necessarily mean they gotta agree with everything a person they fap to says or does. Again. Fapping to someone - real or not - does not indicate holding the same values as the person they're fapping to.

>I gotta disagree here, you try to rationalize something you know is bad, if you say Hitler did nothing wrong and the jews dserved it you're not rationalizing - you're affirming something you believe to be the truth, it's a belief held much deeper than simple rationalizing. I'll look up if there's a word for it.
Rationalize literally means to create a reason, explanation, or excuse for something. If they're giving a reason, an excuse or a explanation, they're rationalizing it.

>Some people aren't jealous and have open relationships.
Having a non-open relationship isn't really a sign of a person being jealous.

Yet plenty of men stop being attracted to their wives the moment they know about the cheating. Especially if there's kids involved, kids those men thought were theirs. They become physically repulsed by their cheating women.

>porn stars
Funny you mention them because it's a lot easier not to get attached to a porn star than it is to a villainess. You know a villainess' story, you care about her. With a porn star sometimes you don't even get to see her face.

>It doesn't not make it, either.
Poor grammar aside - outright wrong.
Masturbating to anything isn't in and of itself condoning the actions or beliefs of what you're masturbating to. Full stop.
The only connection you've made to the two is guilt by association where you've given an example of someone masturbating to something AND agreeing with them as proof that everyone who masturbates to that same thing must ALSO agree with what they're masturbating to.

>"well if you got off to that character you must not find what they did very abhorrent" is outright wrong
I wonder if you're just saying that to justify yourself being attracted to abhorrent women, but regardless, it's natural people would be suspicious of you when you fap to Hitler. You can claim what you want, but how do we know you aren't just lying to us and you really do like what Hitler did?
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>Rationalize literally means to create a reason, explanation, or excuse
Exactly. There's nothing to create here, Hitler was already right.

>outright wrong
Can you prove that? When someone is attracted to loli Hitler, can you prove her genociding the jews isn't part of what makes her attractive?

>Yet plenty of men stop being attracted to their wives the moment they know about the cheating
I'm not saying this is strictly an issue that divides people along male/female lines. It's just clear to me that different people look at this differently, and it's not possible to say that one way of looking at attraction is objectively correct.

Not him.
>Yet plenty of men stop being attracted to their wives the moment they know about the cheating.
I don't doubt that this happens. However.
Put deathly simply:
"I'm unable to find my wife attractive since she cheated on me" does not equate to, "I can't fap to Assaj Venturess/Darth Vader, she/he's EVIL!"

>Exactly. There's nothing to create here, Hitler was already right.
It took this long for you to overextend. So I have to commend you on being subtle for so long.

Why? Your wife cheating on you is evil too.

Deserves got nothin to do with it. Vader has killed more for less.

But user, /pol/'s not creating any new excuses why Hitler did nothing wrong, Hitler's own arguments resonate with them as already correct.

You already blew it man.
Don't get greedy you had a good run.

In retrospect, she should have just found an ugly-ass stray dog and had it fuck her every few days. Probably would have gotten a better dicking that way.

Evidently in canon, vader's got no dick, so that's not an accomplishment really.

I'm truly sorry you think I'm trolling. Oh well.

I'm truly sorry I wasted time with someone who is either a troll or so disingenuous and outright lying that they're indistinguishable from one.

It's PERSONAL. A real life person betraying you personally is not the same as someone (fictional or not) doing bad things to other people. The self-insertion angle, the idea that the bad things a character does to another character are as upsetting as them doing those bad things to YOU is the issue here. That's clearly an issue for some people, but it's not an issue for people who don't self insert into other characters.

Well, then, that's even better. The dog would have an actual dick.
And if my Japanese doujins prove anything, then she'll forget about Vader after nakadashi.

No reason to get butthurt now, user. /pol/ thinks genociding da joos is an attractive trait too.

He has a big black dick. I've seen.

>you think I'm trolling
You did everything in your power to act like one and continue to do so. How you didn't get called out as one earlier is amazing.

I just like debating and loli Hitler. Especially when user whines about women and villains, it's my duty to remind them about /pol/ and loli Hitler.

No, a debate generally involves something more than the presentation of opinions and assertions. Typically it involves facts and logic.

What you're doing is enjoying an ARGUMENT. I genuinely can see how you'd confuse the two

But you've been presented with facts and logic throughout the whole thread, user, just because you reject them doesn't make not fact and not logic.

You haven't stated a single damn thing here that can remotely be considered a fact nor have you used anything other than logical fallacies to present them as relevant.

>The self-insertion angle, the idea that the bad things a character does to another character are as upsetting as them doing those bad things to YOU is the issue here

It's not so much a problem with self-insertion as much as the fact that you can't accept your headcanon is not actual canon. Take for example Japanese fanboys chimping out when they discover their waifu is not a pure virgin or tumblrs trans when someone reminds them their favorite character isn't trans.

He killed her because he's Darth Vader.
This is a guy that at this point was completely given to the Dark Side.
He murders anything from younglings to elderly and he also has no issues killing his troops for daring to give him an update that displeases him.
Now here's this crazy low ranking nurse he doesn't even know or care a lick about, going off her Empire duties, waltzing into his chambers and opening his pod.
That by itself warranted an immediate execution.
Seeing his face? No one lives after seeing his face.
But to top off this death flag trifecta, she starts talking shit about love and being together to Darth Vader. Fucking Darth "Padmé's my one and only waifu" Vader. While he's feeling the full pain of the disfigurements he despises. While he's trying to cultivate his fucking hate.
Seriously, no matter if it had a vagina or a penis, garbage like that would be fucking dead.
The only women offended by this are literally fucked in the head because they actually see themselves in this insane one off character.

>You haven't stated a single damn thing here that can remotely be considered a fact
Loli Hitler is attractive to plenty of men because she is a loli and because she kills da joos. That is a fact. You got a problem with that?

I disagree with your opinion.

Sorry, it is fact, not opinion. By /pol/'s own statements.

You're confusing that stating what someone or several people think is a fact when it's reiterating an opinion they hold.
Yes. I'm sure /pol/ probably likes lolis and hitler and certainly some like the combination.
No, I don't particularly care what they think about loli hitler and I don't see what it has to do with the topic.

Not saying you're wrong about how they think, but that's still kinda dumb since canon doesn't in any way prevent you from having your own personal fantasies. Pablo and the LSG aren't scrutinizing fangirls' fantasies and preventing them from having them because they don't line up with the fucking canon.

>Superior Officer comes to your quarters for a random inspection.
>Catches you with contraband.
>Confiscates and disposes of contraband, gives you a verbal warning, and doesn't turn you in.
>This is a violation, no man has the right.

It's like she doesn't know how the military works.

>You're confusing that stating what someone or several people think is a fact when it's reiterating an opinion they hold

No, user, you clearly have a poor understanding of English here. I said loli Hitler is attractive to plenty of men because she is a loli and because she kills da joos. That is a fact because those men said so themselves. How is it not fact to say "X people like Y" when X people have said they like Y? Do you speak English?

>I don't care about /pol/
Well too bad. Let me remind you the original point was that doesn't believe men lust after genocidal murdering types, while loli Hitler proves plenty of them do, and nobody bothers them for it.

>nobody bothers them for it.
I don't think that's accurate, if this thread is anything to go by I'm sure lots of people give them shit either directly or indirectly talk shit about them.

Like for example this thread where you and I both are.

Well to be fair whenever a girl admits to having personal fantasies males don't approve of, she doesn't get left alone, she gets mocked (which hurts her) and she gets told her fantasies are problematic, she should cease and desist immediately. You can see how that builds up resentment.

Why, you think I'm talking shit about /pol/? I'm not, dude. I got no problem with them at all.

>Charater is known to commit mass genocide with a laser that destroys planets
>Nearly murders his master and son
>Is called misogynist when kills some literal who that wants big darth cock
Why do people insist on being retarded?

What absolute bollocks. Tumblr is (was? I haven't been since the purge) full of fantasizing women who shared and enjoyed their fantasies. In what context do they get mocked? If they talk about them in public under their real name? Guess what, guys would get mocked if they did that too, that's why they share their fantasies anonymously on Yea Forums.

Are you seriously saying tumblr wasn't, and isn't even now, chock full of sjws attacking everything and everyone, including problematic stuff for women? For real? You gotta be a troll.

Do you think any of those dictators from the dictator-chans that were posted are deplorable or abhorrent people?

Presuming you're also you said
>personal fantasies males don't approve of
and SJWs on tumblr by and large aren't males. So did you actually mean
>personal fantasies other women don't approve of?
Also you can ignore people on the internet, it's a lot easier than people make out. Whenever I saw SJWs attacking other women on tumblr it was for drawing "problematic" porn, and frankly they could have just blocked them. Though all the porn is gone now, so I guess they got their wish.

Well to answer your question, yeah, all of them did some pretty bad shit. But it's not a problem for me if /pol/ disagrees.

>SJWs on tumblr by and large aren't males
Where do you think the basedboy and numale memes come from?

Or saddam hussein. Or stalin. Or whomever.
Really the point I'm getting at is you, or someone earlier (it's been a long argument) said that if you fap to a lolification of a bad person, you must agree with everything that real bad person said; which would also make you a bad person. Or if you find them attractive. Or cute. Or whatever.
But yeah. Sure. Do you think hitler or hitler-chan did nothing wrong?

Ok.
So say someone says, "that loli of hitler chan is cute." Does that person therefore have to think hitler did nothing wrong?

>interesting analysis made by critical reader, even if I dont agree with all of it
>loser spends time scouring twitter screenshotting threads
Thanks for the post, I guess

Twitter. That's where all the onion slurpers hang out. More opportunity to virtue signal.

Oh boy here we go...
Ok user. Go ahead and tell us what you agreed with in those posts. It's going to come out sooner or later.

Is this what OBSESSED is?

They don't have to, but it's probable they do. Get into a debate with them and find out. I can say for certain a lot of /pol/ does think so.

>you fap to a lolification of a bad person, you must agree
Not at all, user. The must part is entirely you. user asked for proof that men lust after murdering genociding types, and you took offense when I proved yes, men lust after murdering genociding types. It is a fact loli dictators are murdering genociding types and it it is a fact men lust after them. You got butthurt claiming they just like them for the aesthetics, but it is a fact plenty of men like them because they're dictators and because of the aesthetics. Especially Hitler-chan, since /pol/ hates jews.

What stops tumblr basedboys from being on twitter too? As you said, more opportunity to virtue signal.

Because only one instance was over his cock. The story of psycho bitch fan girl gets murdered and called garbage fits into a different category.

No I'm not calling it misogynist, but it's different than any other Anakin murders.

>why are some women mad?
too immature for the subject

"My attraction dies when I find out a woman has done something I personally abhor. If yours doesn't, maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much."
I didn't imagine it. You tried to suggest that liking something purely for aesthetics was or might be indicative of more than just that.

Fucking villainfags, girl or guy it doesn’t matter they are all trash.

But how do you know someone likes something purely for the aesthetics? You can claim that you're only after loli Hitler for the aesthetics, but you might well be lying because you don't have the courage to admit to others (or to yourself) you agree with Hitler on da joos. What exactly is wrong about that?

>all the women on tumblr shaming and ridiculing other women are secretly men
This is a ridiculous argument you're only making because you don't want to admit you were wrong.

You still have done nothing to disprove the point that no-one is PREVENTED from having personal fantasies, either by canon or by fucking "society" or whatever it is you're suggesting. Fantasies exist inside your head. They don't even have to leave it, and other people's opinions of your fantasies shouldn't have any bearing on them. If you let them, that's your own choice.

Well Hell user, I guess everybody might be lying about everything they say. Why trust anyone to tell you the truth ever?

>all the women on tumblr shaming and ridiculing other women are secretly men
Where did I say "all all the women on tumblr shaming and ridiculing other women are secretly men"? Can you link the post to me?

>But how do you know someone likes something purely for the aesthetics?
How do you know it isn't?
When your assertion breaks down to, "well yeah you could be lying," you've got no proof. That's not a fact at this point. Worse, it's arguing in bad faith. If you aren't willing to accept that someone sharing their opinion may be telling the truth, then you can't even agree on the most basic of exchanges of information.
How do I know you're not lying about /pol/ liking hitler chan? How do I know /pol/ isn't lying about liking hitler chan? They could be lying just as well for any number of reasons. Maybe they're trying to 'blend in' with Yea Forums being an anime site. Maybe they feel they have to like anime because it's from japan who were, "honorary aryans."
Effectively this user put it best:

Truly sad. I’ve been literally called a man and that my female tumblr profile pic is not really me for calling out some women’s stupid arguments. Apparently because I am a woman I have to side with women every single time and that’s logical. Makes total sense.

Well all thread you've been so deliberately trying to put words in my mouth, I'm pretty sure I can write you off the list of people one can trust.

That's a different user.
That said, you know what?
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I had no intention of misrepresenting what you said, and I'm sorry if that's what it sounded like I was doing.

Of course I could be lying about being sorry.

How do you know it isn't?
Getting into a debate with them normally digs up the truth.

>maybe they're trying to 'blend in' with Yea Forums being an anime site
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I fucking hate women after experiencing the fact that me being a horrible person attracted women more than when I tried to actually improve myself and help my community afterwards has made me lose all faith in them they are nothing but psychotic parasites and worse they will actively try to make you choose bad decisions fuck them all Vader should be shown murdering more women

Uh-huh.

>How do you know it isn't?
>Getting into a debate with them normally digs up the truth.
Turtles all the way down.
How do I know you're telling the truth?
How do I know /pol/ is telling the truth?
How do I know that YOU don't think hitler did nothing wrong?

Sadly for a lot of women, other people's opinions do have bearing on them. That is also a fact.

That's literally the first time I've replied to you. You're arguing the person, not the point. You are terrible at debate and the concept of anonymity.

Samefagging and phoneposting happens on Yea Forums, especially when one is losing, and your way of posting has stayed consistent throughout the thread, down to the petty butthurt retaliations. Try something else.

I mean, I'm not lying about being sorry. That was a joke. I got no way to make you believe me though. Thought I'd try anyway.

If all you're going to do to try and "win" arguments is imply samefag, fuck off to a site with identities where you can actually be sure. Here you should rely on the content of posts, not who you imagine somebody to be. Believe what you like, but I'm glad I didn't waste nearly as much time humouring you as some of these poor fuckers.

>Here you should rely on the content of posts
And the content of was you once again trying to put words in my mouth, since everything in is your butthurt reaction and none of my posting. Don't agree? Can you link me to where I state "I guess everybody might be lying about everything they say. Why trust anyone to tell you the truth ever?" While you're at it can you also reply to ?

>Can you link me to where I state "I guess everybody might be lying about everything they say. Why trust anyone to tell you the truth ever?"
>But how do you know someone likes something purely for the aesthetics? You can claim that you're only after loli Hitler for the aesthetics, but you might well be lying because you don't have the courage to admit to others

>Can you link me to X
>links to Y
You're a woman aren't you.

I'm the original user you were arguing with.
Isn't me though.
But the other user was right. You still aren't arguing the point. I mean if you don't want to I guess I can't make you. Nor can I even make you believe me. But at this point I apologized and did all I could to make things right with you and listen so at this point it's on you to engage or just reject everything I say outright.

>vader being vader
>oh the humanity

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So the threads about this comic is just that joke about doing something stupid to "own the libs"? Yeah man, this comic is so good let me tell you. High tier writing, top class, bravo and all that.

And yet he gets to go to space heaven

And you're a willfully obstinate retard.
>How do I know you're telling the truth when you tell me [x]? You might be lying
Could apply to literally anything anyone told you. If you were actually interested in debate you'd take someone's statements at face value, not presume they're lying because it better suits your argument.

>WHY IS THIS FANTASY BEING TREATED AS A JOKE?!?!? MALE POWER FANTASIES AREN'T TREATED WITH THIS LEVEL OF SCORN.
Isn't this the same comic where Tarkin daydreams about being really buff and murdering a smarmy subordinate with a rock, all to demonstrate what a petty savage he is beneath the civilized veneer?

>You still aren't arguing the point
Which is? So far this thread has only been me stating extremely banal, obvious facts and you getting hysterical about it.
>Nothing stops male sjws on tumblr from posting on twitter too.
>WHAT, are you SAYING EVERYONE ON TUMBLR SHAMING AND RIDICULING WOMEN is a MAN?!!?
Does the suggestion that there are male sjws on tumblr and on twitter too trigger you? Are you going to get a stroke when I tell you that Dobson is on tumblr too?

>Nothing stops male sjws on tumblr from posting on twitter too.
>WHAT, are you SAYING EVERYONE ON TUMBLR SHAMING AND RIDICULING WOMEN is a MAN?!!?
Bluntly honest:
I have no idea what you're talking about. What's this referring to?

>ITT: Fangirls invoke Godwin's Law because a comic book told them about themselves

Being in the same room as Darth Vader.

It's referring to a thread of discussion user dragged hugely off-topic to avoid answering the point that no-one was stopping anyone having fantasies.

>Could apply to literally anything anyone told you
Yes, and? The normal reaction to that is to say "Okay, let's find out if what this person is saying is true" aka trust but verify. Your reaction is to throw a tantrum because I don't buy immediately into whatever bullshit you're saying. Why do women take personal offense at not being immediately believed? Are you mentally ill or what?

>This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever:
>The first dawn of light in your universe brings pain.
>The light burns you. It will always burn you. Part of you will always lie upon black glass sand beside a lake of fire while flames chew at your flesh.
>You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it. You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down.
>You don’t even have lungs anymore.
>Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream forever.

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See .
Still waiting on that quote.

That wasn't my post though. Sorry, I can't help you there user.

Any examples?

>no one cares anymore.

Coulda fooled me

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>Me: What stops tumblr basedboys from being on twitter too? As you said, more opportunity to virtue signal.
>Her: you're saying all the women on tumblr shaming and ridiculing other women are secretly men
And she calls me disingenuous.

>Yes, and? The normal reaction to that is to say "Okay, let's find out if what this person is saying is true"
So when I asked you:
"Do you think any of those dictators from the dictator-chans that were posted are deplorable or abhorrent people?"
And you said:
>Well to answer your question, yeah, all of them did some pretty bad shit
Let's apply that statement to this post:
How do I know what you're saying is true? That you think they did some pretty bad shit?
Is there any way you can verify that this is what you really think?

The whitewashing of the sith and what it means to be under the sway of the dark side of the force has made this apologia possible. I blame the apex of it on Knights of the Old Republic 2.

>How do I know what you're saying is true?
You don't, up to you what you decide to do with it. It's not my problem.

Then the entire conversation here could be predicated on a lie you told. Why even reply? Why even bother with this conversation if neither person wants to listen to the other and argue with a little bit of sincerity and willing to take something on good faith? There's literally no purpose to this and it's wasted your time and mine and everyone else's.
It's trite but in this case it's true. If you want to be understood, you have to first seek to understand. And if you're not willing to try and put some effort in, then this is all just going to have been a colossal farce. There's no way debate can even take place if you demand that people have proof that someone even holds an opinion.

Dunno about you, I got to shitpost about lolis and Hitler a lot so my day is better already.

>Thinking that females don't shame other people for their fantasies for being problematic.

you're a goddamn brainlet

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I'm trying very hard to see the bright side of this entire garbage thread.
At least someone enjoyed it, I guess.

>Me: No-one is stopping people from having fantasies
>(You): turns the entire debate into one about the presumed genders of people on tumblr
Yeah, that was fun and really worth attempting to continue 40 posts later.

>There's no way debate can even take place if you demand that people have proof that someone even holds an opinion
Let me remind you this all started because you or someone who thinks like you got butthurt at sexy pictures of dictators being posted, to the point you denied the existence of people that fap to sexy dictators because they're dictators here , all thread demanding proof that people fap to loli Hitler because it's loli Hitler. Does it trigger you to imagine that people might well fap to loli Hitler because it's a loli and because it's Hitler? I got no other explanation for your rabid denial of something you have zero way of knowing.

Where did I say that?

Sweetie, we were already talking about genders in , , before your post, try to keep up.

Why are you even asking, user, if you are just going to screech that I'm lying to you if I even try to answer your question and demand proof of my answer?
Why am I even replying if you won't even make an attempt to listen?

Which is why she grabbed Luke. Skywalker DNA. She couldn't have the father so she tried to get the son.

>this is the same user trying to diminish others' arguments by accusing them of being women
And you've got to be a literal faggot or a tranny, you never see passive aggression like this from a straight person.

I'm genuinely interested in why you're so triggered at the idea that people, not everyone but an unspecified number, might like loli Hitler because it's a loli and because it's Hitler. I'm not saying everyone who likes loli Hitler likes her because she's Hitler. I'm not saying if you like loli Hitler then you must agree with Hitler. I'm saying it's possible that people like loli Hitler because it's a loli and because they agree with Hitler. Why have you spent all thread trying to deny this? Does possibility trigger you?

>someone clearly has mental instability
>messages you asking them to read your rant about why your work is problematic

If it were me, I would say whatever to appease them too. You say the wrong thing and best case scenario they start a battle against you on the internet, worst case scenario they real life stalk you and murder you.

Where have I accused user of being a woman? If anything I have stated she is a woman.

Well I can tell you you're wrong, but you've already said you don't believe what people tell you anyway. So I'm going to believe you're a fat tranny.

>I'm genuinely interested in why you're so triggered at the idea that people, not everyone but an unspecified number, might like loli Hitler because it's a loli and because it's Hitler.
This doesn't bother me in the slightest.

>I'm not saying everyone who likes loli Hitler likes her because she's Hitler. I'm not saying if you like loli Hitler then you must agree with Hitler.
user, listen. You suggested this. Either implicitly or explicitly. THAT'S what had me all pissy. THAT'S what bothered me. Maybe I misunderstood you, if that's the case, then I apologize for not trying very hard to clarify.

>I'm saying it's possible that people like loli Hitler because it's a loli and because they agree with Hitler. Why have you spent all thread trying to deny this? Does possibility trigger you?
If people on /pol/ like loli hitler for being both I couldn't care less.

You may not believe this but:
I honestly just got upset because I thought you were making moral judgements about people based on their fap fodder.

>I can tell you you're wrong
Please do. Where I am "accusing" of being a woman? is a statement derived from observation of her behavior.

Not him:
>Please do. Where I am "accusing" of being a woman? is a statement derived from observation of her behavior.
That is literally an accusation that user was a woman.

The ending is is bittersweet. She loves the prince so, that she can't bear to kill him even to save her own life, even though her love is unrequited. You are a philistine if you can't appreciate that.

This is literally the most strawman argument I have ever seen.

>This doesn't bother me in the slightest
These 519+ posts tell different.

>You suggested this.
No, I didn't. I said absolutely nothing of the sort. asked for examples of men lusting after genocidal murdering types, which I provided. I made zero judgement in my post . It is you that chimped out like a tumblrina and started posting absolute idiotic bullshit that "they're not lusting after the dictators" when BY FACT they are.

Go back to tumblr, you belong there.

With a lightsaber in her chest.

You know user, all your obfuscating, claiming to be misunderstood and trying to seem like the smartest person in the room while actually just being obtuse reminds me terribly of someone I used to know in real life, who I'm glad I no longer do. If you behave in real life the way you have itt I imagine anyone who knows you also wishes they didn't.

Observation != accusation.
I asked her to do X, she did Y. By observing these facts, I inferred she is a woman. Where is the accusation?

I see you're resorting to ad hominems, did you run out of arguments?

The thread's about to die. You deserve to be told that you're a fucking horrible person to try and communicate with and if I see anything resembling your posting style again I will not be replying. Take that lesson or don't, it's time to stop pretending this thread even has a topic any more besides your own attention whoring.

>These 519+ posts tell different.
They were because you asserted that someone, me, or anyone who liked

>I made zero judgement in my post
Just because you made no judgement in THAT post does not mean you didn't make any in any others. Like I said, that post wasn't the one I took exception to.
>I said absolutely nothing of the sort.

>My attraction dies when I find out a woman has done something I personally abhor. If yours doesn't, maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much.
This post is the one I took exception to. That post is emphatically you making a judgement.

Pretty much this. That twitter girl sees herself as Ariel, but doesn't realize she's actually Nurse Garbage.

>you're a fucking horrible person to try and communicate with
>says the tumblrina that got triggered by her own imagination and threw a 500+ posts tantrum over a perceived, not even stated, perceived opinion
You really have no right to mock the chicks on twitter for getting angry over a perceived slight. You're doing exactly the same.

>They were because you asserted that someone, me, or anyone who liked something was a moral failing*

That's a different user.
Can't say I strongly disagree with him though. You're really trying very hard to be cantankerous if I'm being blunt.

If you don't agree with the other women even when they are clearly in the wrong, you're a dick worshipper. That's how feminism thinks.

Based Jedi religion.

>a perceived, not even stated, perceived opinion

>Just because you made no judgement in THAT post does not mean you didn't make any in any others
But that's the post you replied to already triggered and taking offense at the statement that men fap to murdering, genociding dictators, so if you admit there was nothing there, why did you start this fool's crusade?

>This post is the one I took exception
The post that came after a huge strings of posts by you absolutely denying that men can fap to dictators because they're dictators when they know they're dictators? Who are you kidding?
And no sweetie, a suggestion is not a judgement. Judgement is the evaluation of evidence to make a decision. The word "maybe" indicates possibility, not certainty. An indecision cannot be a decision, can it? Is English not your first language?

>you asserted that someone, me, or anyone who liked something was a moral failing
Where did I say that? Why do you assume "you might not be completely opposed to what this dictator did" = a moral failing? I already stated I have no problem with /pol/ disagreeing with me on dictators being bad people, why should I with you? This is your own guilt speaking, lady.

Yes, where am I saying "You're a horrible person for fapping to Hitler" exactly?

>why did you start this fool's crusade?
I already told you.

>he post that came after a huge strings of posts by you absolutely denying that men can fap to dictators because they're dictators when they know they're dictators
No. You continued to defend the position several times in several other posts saying that you thought that someone who fapped to something might be a reason to believe they agreed with their positions or beliefs. for some time.

>No, I didn't. I said absolutely nothing of the sort
Already explained how this isn't true. You tried to imply it.

>Where did I say that? Why do you assume "you might not be completely opposed to what this dictator did" = a moral failing?
Because you said,
">My attraction dies when I find out a woman has done something I personally abhor. If yours doesn't, maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much."
It's not a far stretch to infer a judgement from this post.
You also did not say, "you might not be completely opposed to what this dictator did." You're trying to revise what you said after the fact.

That isn't what I'm saying you said. I'm quoting you exactly here:
"My attraction dies when I find out a woman has done something I personally abhor. If yours doesn't, maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much."
If that's not moral condemnation, it's close enough that any inference would be reasonable.

You've done everything in your power to disagree with everyone in this thread who you talked to. You've been actively, desperately making no attempt to meet anyone in the middle, make no attempt to understand anything anyone posted in reply to you.
And it's been well rewarded. You succeeded at every attempt.

Based and Red pulled Vader

>I already told you
You started way earlier than your claim though, and you stated there was nothing in my post worth get triggered over, so you told me a bunch of nonsense.

>You continued to defend the position several times in several other posts saying that you thought that someone who fapped to something might be a reason to believe they agreed with their positions or beliefs. for some time
Yes and? That is something that happens and has happened, it is a possibility. I still don't see where did I make a judgement or imply this is a moral failing?

>Already explained how this isn't true
Not really.

>You tried to imply it
Where?

>It's not a far stretch to infer a judgement
So there is NO judgement in my post, however you see blame in it and accuse me of judging you. The tumblr runs strong in you.

>You did not say "you might not be completely opposed to what this dictator did"
Yes, I said "maybe you don't actually abhor her actions that much". What does this mean? That perhaps you are not repulsed by her actions as much you thought, in other words, maybe you're not as opposed to them as you think. Again, how is that judgement? Why did a simple suggestion trigger you?

Wait, so me making a personal statement about myself and making a suggestion, not even an assertion, is a "moral condemnation" to you?

Are you one of those women that thinks you're blaming the victim if you ask them questions?