Are we satisfied with his adaptation?

No.

Without lusting for Death he lost his luster. Hell remember when his first appearance they even teased her? And no Adam Warlock also kills it for me, I always hated them giving Vision the stone in the forehead and taking away from Warlock, like taking Ultron from Pym.

So nah, over all nah.

Did they ever actually say why they didn't go with a flat adaption of Thanos, Mistress Death and all?

This too. Only the power of A FUCKING can truly represent him.

You kidding me?, of course not, IW was "ok" though but endgame was a shitfest no different than nu-thanos crap.

I know why. it was still weird.

He should've destroy than damn planet with his a fucking imo

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No, he was a generic brooding doomsday villain who gave cliched speeches about how powerful and unstoppable he was. Easily impressed teenagers creamed themselves over him and thought he was nuanced, but I never bought him being "morally gray" for a minute because his plans make no sense and the script treats him like he is supposed to be this charismatic deep character when his dialogue is about at the level of a 90's Final Fantasy villain.

I get that MCU is a different beast and isn't going necessarily going to be anything like the comics but I wasn't a fan of the changes in Thanos. Completely removing one of the core aspects of his comic self was stupid; it doesn't help that his movie motivation/plan is both hackneyed and nonsensical.

I thought they were going to replace Death with Hela.

Nah.

I mean Josh Brolin was great, but I like a more maniacal Thanos. I mean not even the big shit eating smile like he had at the end of the 1st Avengers (or like your pic).
It makes me think a bit about Ultron where the personality wasn't what I wanted no matter how well of an actor.

>Well, I'm off to see my girlfriend Hela who I last went on a date with a few millennia ago
>WTF, where's Asgard?

I am, even though we didn't get comic Thanos and instead got a really nerfed version of him that was basically just a smart purple hulk, he was a good movie villain with a motivation people can wrap their heads around. I always went into these movies with both eyes open knowing it wasn't going to be completely faithful to all the characters due to the limitations of the movie business as well as the wider audience they had to appeal to, and I'm honestly grateful we got as much faithfulness to the comics we even did. I remember walking into the first avengers movie thinking they were going to be stupid and leave out the helicarrier and then say something stupid like "oh it was too comic booky" but they didn't, I also fully expected ant-man to suck but got pleasantly surprised.

I was pleasantly surprised quite a lot by MCU given how much potential there was for the movies to suck. Nerd hulk was 100% kino. Giant man punching a leviathan and then stepping on a dude made my dick hard.

They completely undermined the character in the movies to the point where he’s not the same character.

Thanos isn’t dangerous because of his strength, he is dangerous because he is so aware of the cosmic balance, and can take it apart like a clock. The Infinity Gems being combined wasn’t just some common knowledge, it was something he figured out. He was so aware that when his molecules were broken apart and reshaped in a constant state of non-reality, it did not effect him because he understood the core of his own being. Yet, despite this, he falls to the most basic emotion: Love. There’s no logic to it, he can’t explain it, he simply can’t resist it. This irony is the core of Thanos and why he was always so interesting. The snap was so significant because to him, it was bouquet of roses. It showed not only how far he was willing to go, but how worse things were going to get from then on out.

MCU Thanos starts off as just some pseudo-intellectual villain, where his entire goal was just a warmup for comic Thanos. He just comes off as a villain you’re supposed to sympathize with, yet his plan is stupid without playing up his MAD Titan title enough. Then in Endgame he’s just “Evil Warlord Final Boss #638282”

I liked him in Infinity War
But I thought he was treated like shit in Endgame

The best part of IG was just watching him slowly and completely lose his shit and Mephisto's trolling.

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A lot of people had that idea. Would have been a great way of retaining Lady Death without having to introduce an entirely new character.

based

Kinda?

It felt like we were gonna get comics Thanos, the one obsessed with getting in Lady Death's nonexistent pants, up until Infinity War, where he felt like a complete 180 of everything we were expecting with his "noble cause".

It wasn't exactly a problem, just felt like I was looking forward to Tacos but ended up getting chinese food instead.

he was better

His Japanese dub is so much better than Brolin

>due to the limitations of the movie business as well as the wider audience they had to appeal to,

I'm entirely sick of those "limitations", not arguing with you but just this general attitude of letting Hollywood do whatever the fuck lazy shit it wants to do and just accepting it. They have no limitations, they have billion dollar budgets and all the resources they could ever need. The limitations seem to be their lack of imagination and fortitude to stand behind the writing and art of other creators they're "adapting" from.

Not so much with Thanos, but in general they also constantly have to be wary of not including any material that the CCP censorship board might take issue with.

See that's another thing too, I wish they would have kept or put Mephisto one of the gems. They could have linked that to their Ghost Riders too.

See fuck that, that's what I'm saying. Fuck changing things to appeal to censoring communist boot-legging China.

Yep 100% this. I'd also say in any medium when you become acutely aware that the limitations are restricting something in a negative way, it means it is a bad piece of art.

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Kind of? I like Starlin's version of Thanos more and find him more interesting but I understand why they could never adapt him. Not saying Starlin's Thanos is high brow, he really isn't, but the general audience would probably not have the attention span or patience for him.
He's actually a more reprehensible character in the movies. At least Starlin didn't have his Thanos adopt a daughter just to fucking torture her for his own jollies and when he tortured Nebula in the comics he had an actual legitimate reason and she wasn't exactly an innocent nor was she his daughter.

He's also a better father to Gamora under Starlin's pen just by virtue of not being keen of her suffering (IW Thanos didn't really give a shit about how Gamora felt). Starlin himself said Gamora was the person that Thanos felt the most loyalty for followed by Adam and Thanos gave up a chance to be with Death to preserve Adam's trust so he would do a lot more for his daughter.

I dunno I imagine audiences would have flipped over some of this shit.

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Oh I agree completely. Their limitations have jack and shit to do with money, it's mostly the fact they have to appeal to masses of retarded normies with no taste combined with the studios being run at the top by old boomers that are out of touch with modern culture. Especially given how easy their task is in the regard that the stories are all already written, the DC movies wouldn't be such spectacular shitfests if they just copied some of the fucking comics.

I was happy with the MCU because my expectations were so low, and because reality is often disappointing.

Thanos' scenes in Guardians of the Galaxy felt very in line with the Thanos characterization we knew from the comics, but they felt very incongruous with the Thanos from Infinity War.

They qay he carried himself, his attitude and gravitas, were 100% spot on. Sadly his wonderful goofy comic origin were mangled.

So... he's not perfect, bit they did alright.

>Movies are better because you don't have to worry about inconsistencies across multiple writers

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Yes. He was an entirely fresh take on capeshit movie villains and highly memorable. And no, they shouldn't have tried being faithful to his comic version because that would require more movies to set up existing relationships and more characters than are needed. The writers/directors should be allowed to exercise whatever creative vision they're allowed to show and shouldn't be limited.

Well you remember the infamous stinger post Avengers.
"To challenge them is to court death."

And you know what is sad?
Even an undermined Thanos was the best villai nin the MCU and even the normies think so bar some Loki fujos.

As someone pointed out, he never had the mad grin of OP or so no, the way he carried himself was not right.

>I have to do this bad thing and kill a lot of people for da greater good is a fresh take

Yes.

Yeah, that was my point. Every movie he appeared in up until Infinity War felt like the Thanos we knew, but when it was time for him to take center stage, it was something entirely new.

Is China-pandering the reason we haven't seen Mephisto in the MCU?

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>He was an entirely fresh take on capeshit movie villains
How? He's every generically powerful villain with a goal that only sounds noble when you twist and pervert logic for narrative convince. He's not refreshing. It's like they looked at that retarded copy paste villain tier list and thought "Wow he thinks he's the good guy as he does bad thing. So deep."

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*Thanos grin*

Show me a live action version of Celestials shooting entire planets out of a cannon as a weapon and not look silly

There really is only so much the mind will believe looks convincing.
Even if you CG'd it, too many people would find the amount of crazy shit that goes on in cosmic marvel comics ridiculous or stupid.

This is a world where a very few, but some none the less, people once couldn't wrap their head around the idea of a bullet bouncing off of Superman's eye.

That is not the look of a man who thinks they're on a noble crusade. This is the look of a man who is intending to fuck shit up.

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It's not about being "deep", it's about how he was portrayed. Infinity War was basically a Thanos solo movie and that alone puts him above any on-film cape villain in the last decade if not more.

I don't think you realize how low that bar is.

>Watchmen
>Spider-Man 2
>The Amazing Spider-Man
>Batman Begins
>The Dark Knight Rises
You're fucking kidding right?

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>Infinity War was basically a Thanos solo movie
You would have to be a blind and deaf person who was lied to via braile about the plot of the film to believe this.

Why didn’t she just “No more Thanos” him?

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>That is not the look of a man who thinks they're on a noble crusade. This is the look of a man who is intending to fuck shit up.
Doesn't hold up in the court of law.

It's disappointing for me. IW and EG should have been his story from start to finish. He should have had a better philosophy and should have had a better written ideology. The flashbacks didn't properly define his motivation to of population control. More important that that, He should have had more time to argue ideals with the protagonists.

I have no clue why people are calling him the best MCU villain. He's on par with Malekith and Ronan, except with cooler set piece battles.

Because MCU Scarlet Witch can't warp reality, only manipulate it on a small physical level and alter a person's perceptions.

She's VERY underpowered compared to her comic self.

> He's on part with Malekith and Ronan

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>Goes through the hero's journey
>Is the only person in the film that's willing to sacrifice everything to archive his goals
>"wins" in the end
>Totally not a Thanos solo in spirit, I sweeeeaarrr

this is what I wanted.

I fully understand the pov of comic fans and why they might have been let down but honestly this was one of the best interpretations we could have had in the movie verse. The whole mad angle and the thing with death were never going to work, neither would having all those characters involved. Normies would simply never wrap their heads around all of it or have the patience to consider all of it and sadly comic fans are not the major source of income for these movies, not by themselves at least. This goes for more than just Thanos, most of the cosmic or reality-warping things from comics get toned down because normies just don't deal well with things like characters fucking around with absolute forces or messing with fundamental universal forces, even people like Dr. Strange.
They still managed to make him a real menace and not just some goofy quipping guy out to kill just because. His reason to do what he was doing might not be the best but at least he had one and it could be said to reflect certain aspects of madness, namely how hellbent he was despite the inherent insanity of his ideals.

How about his threats to disembowel people and general disposition of eliminating all who fail him violently.

I actually really liked the fact that he just rolled with seeing future memories and watching himself die; that he could remain cool-headed and make single-minded decisions in the face of that felt a lot like the sort of lofty cosmic perspective he has in the comix.

Most of the über powered characters were toned down, most notably Scarlet Witch and Dr. Strange.

On the other hand, Captain Marvel was ridiculously buffed to the point she outclasses nu-Scarlet Witch and nu-Strange.

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>MuH hERo'S JouRnEy!!!!

Man the comic was fucking wild

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dedication looks like mere obsession to the weak-minded.

A good example is how they skimp on the costumes, saying it's not good for the screen or whatever and we see cosplayers and porn parodies doing a better job with the costume designs.

Hollywood just needs everything it's way, to look the way it likes to sell it's own brand and versions of things. They don't make straighter adaptions so they themselves have more control over audience perception.

> it's mostly the fact they have to appeal to masses of retarded normies with no taste combined with the studios being run at the top by old boomers that are out of touch with modern culture.

Which is ironic because the characters would never get popular enough to adapt if it weren't for the comic audience AND when they do risk putting weirder stuff in the movies, they find a tremendous success! Like GotG and Ant-Man. You'd think they would learn to be putting as much goofy stuff in the comics into the movies just to max out on the toys and merch too, but they fail there too. They're more focused on "FAMOUS FACE AND BRAND!" ... That's why we see more of the actors face's than anything.

Starlin was absolutely doing a fuckton of acid at this stage of his career; I love it.

>listening to the dub
Just read the subtitles you brainlet.

>mad villains don't work
That's why everyone hates Green Goblin and Joker right?

Yes and also fuck the tens of billions of dollars we make selling them entertainment media, we don't want it, no sir.

By all means take away the reason why these movies get the budgets they can.

I wouldn't say she outclasses them, though she physically the strongest right now, maybe tied with peak Thor. With all the tools he has Strange might be able to take her down, and SW might just be able to overpower her if she goes all out.

Yeah what the fuck happened with that? That showed they were at least thinking about Death as woman to be courted. I actually haven't sat down and watched IW and EG, did they ever reference it again? I'm betting not. Even a few more wax poetic lines like that would have done the concept more justice.

I don't see how anyone can argue anything is too outlandish when Rocket Raccoon has become one of the most popular characters in the whole franchise.

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That's my exact point! I mean he was featured prominently in those trailers. All the most famous actors and a fucking Raccoon! (I mean I like him and I know why he's there but imagine if you had literally zero idea about this movie and saw that? They make it seem so seamless you don't question it any more than Chewbacca.)

>They're more focused on "FAMOUS FACE AND BRAND!" ... That's why we see more of the actors face's than anything.

Yeah, no shit. These actors cost a fuckton for them, and it makes total business sense to try and get as much money as possible with it. Endgame wouldn't have made 2 billion dollars in under two weeks without it.

I didn't say they can't work, but you can't realistically compare crazy villains like them to comic book Thanos' kind of mad. It's just not the same. Besides, they're street level and their madness has nothing to do with the inner workings of the universe or methaphysical entities and concepts.

Let's say I'm a total normie and I've never read any of Starlin's Thanos, or much of cosmic Marvel at all.

If I want to get the best of Thanos, where do I start?

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It shouldn't fucking matter, they're actors, get lost in the role.

>Warlock and Thanos exchanges
>Mephisto
>introducing the Ghost Riders
I want to live in this timeline

Assuming you're Joe Bloggs with a rudimentary knowledge of the characters from seeing the MCU movies or playing Marvel vs Capcom or whatever, but don't want to read several omnis worth of material, I'd say buy the Infinity Gauntlet trade paperback. It's the whole miniseries and goes for about $20-30.

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>but you can't realistically compare crazy villains like them to comic book Thanos' kind of mad.
I can when Rocket Racoon is on the marquee.

It can work if you've got 10 years and 22 films to build it all up.

Seriously the only people saying it can't work are the people who are unwilling to try it. I get it's a huge cash sink but this venture was a huge risk from the start. You wait 22 movies to suddenly play it safe? They must have bank for days.

Corporations don't take unnecessary risks.

Yeah, between that moment and him shitting on Ronan I really thought we might get classic Starlin Thanos. I just find “Muh half the population” Thanos to feel like such weak material next to “I wiped out half of everything on a whim” Starlin Thanos.

I would say that but also strongly recommend Thanos Quest. If it's not included.

Get the TPB for Avengers vs. Thanos, then get Thanos Quest and Infinity Gauntlet. His issues in Silver Surfer were great too.

This.
Wiping out the half of everything isn't a plan because it is dumb and illogical in of itself.
It was just a raw display of unimaginable power occurring as quick as a snap of one's fingers.

This, Starlin's Thanos never had anything at all to say about populations and the balance between life and death. Did these cucks even read the comics? Probably not.

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Hell yea it is. Frankly there are very few filmmakers who are as good of visual artists as Starlin/Perez/Lim.

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They didn't wait 10 years to play it safe, they never had the intention to make him mad in the first place because they do not believe it appeals to normies (and it doesn't), because his madness is NOT the same as the craziness of someone like Joker. That's what people don't get, Joker is easy and Goblin was fucking Dafoe, but get Lady Death, Mephisto & co and the fundamental balance of the universe into the mix and normals will lose interest.
Want to test it? try talking to a normal about speed force and what exactly it allows speedsters to do, and what it has caused in different runs. Then tell me if you think adapting the Flash while going full comic and deep into speed force territory is a good idea.

Can you just imagine this Pink Flloyd shit?

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The difference here is that the film was missing a character to actually debate Thanos on that subject and his guile trickery.

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Tell that to Morrison ,that is last I heard, writing the actual screenplay to the coming Flash solo film.

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I liked it. Could have been better. Retaining the "kill half the universe" motivation without Death was stupid though. It's like attempting to drive a car without the transmission and I don't think the Russos understood that.

It wasn't a risk. You can slap Marvel Studios on a film of dogs fucking and it would make 10 digit money.

I know I will get flak for stating this in Yea Forums but his goal is practically similar to that of Ultron's but instead of just Earth, it spans the entire universe.
MCU Thanos is overrated.

FRICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I love this shit. Some of the best bits where just Thanos talking to people and trolling the fuck out of them.

>try talking to a normal about speed force
There's a difference between explaining something outlandish to someone and allowing them to experience it in the proper context. Everything sounds crazy out of context but if you give them the books they'll get it fine.

Thanos' best weapon is not his strength and tech but his silver tongue.

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Based Thanos.

I just really love the way these cosmic types speak. So elegant and grant.

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Endgame thanos was a generic bad guy without any of the character development or charisma
Also, why did they dump the tsunerness over lady death for the movies?

First no Adam, and then white t-shirt thanus????

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This is not the last issue but I just wanted to show how having Thanos in conversation is ultimately better than him pummeling/ getting pummeled.

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It's funny because he actually theoretically did become the concept of a fucking when he took over the roles of all the cosmic beings.

Kek

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The stakes were pretty toned down I thought, like IG starts with the snap while infinity war ends with it.

Also it’s not clear why he would need all 6 stones to do it. Comics Thanos’ real motivation for gathering the gauntlet was to put himself on par with Death: a god in his own right. That’s why he needed the stones, and why he held onto them afterward, and why the heroes going to stop Thanos was about more than bringing people back, it was about stopping a mad god who might destroy even more. The Russos left vestigial elements of Infinity Gauntlet in, even though the new narrative they constructed wasn’t fully able to justify them.

Adam has to be with Thanos since they sorta are a pair in some convoluted sense.

To me it's more like Luis Buñel or David Lynch.

I'm just sad we'll never get to see Adam and Thanos chill and enjoy the odd steak and fermented beverage.

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>A philosophical confrontation where Thanos is simply doing the despicable because he wants the love of another is the same as a sappy self righteous guy whose log makes no sense

Looks like you missed the bit where Thanos brings it up simply to say that Death likes consistency. If anything, that is far more compelling and scary than forcing a sympathetic angle.

You seem to miss why people don’t like movie Thanos. It’s not the action, it’s the motivation and fact that that action became an endgame instead of a whim.

Not who might destroy more, a mad god who had already subsumed the very dieties and metaphysical concepts that rule the universe. The IG comic's scale and stakes are much higher than the MCUs.

>Infinity War by David Lynch
Yea Forums would implode

>You seem to miss why people don’t like movie Thanos.
They do though. More people like movie Thanos than have ever picked up a single comic book in their lives.

It's scarier than a whim, it's like the flowers he's bringing to a date. MCU Thanos is so smalltime to comic Thanos.

Right it wasn't even a matter of life and death. It was a matter of the very fabric of the universe being annihilated on the whims of a lunatic. Death would be the best possible outcome if Thanos was left in charge.

And to cap it all off it ends with them having to cooperate with that same lunatic.

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Man, I really feel cheated on those Cosmic Abstracts. Eternity could look so cool in live action.

While we're talking about Starlin Thanos I always appreciated the sheer scope and weight his comics conveyed, which basically never happens these days. It makes you feel like you're actually going on a story with things to learn along the way. It's great.

A bit of an unorthodox example I like is The Infinity Revelation, which is about Thanos dealing with the concept of the status quo in comic books.

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And as crazy as it is, this lunatic is still more sympathetic than the noble sacrifices of the movie thanos

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> it's like the flowers he's bringing to a date
Death brought Thanos back to life and set him to do this one specific task though, it absolutely was the driving factor of his actions.

Death doesn't speak and she doesn't seem to be a fan of what Thanos does so I'm pretty sure he decided that on his own.

Every major Avengers villain in the MCU was changed for worse. Loki went from a manipulative, untouchable god of Mischief to a wimpy, good for nothing, screechy lackey. Ultron is no longer an unstoppable, genius killing machine with an Oedipus complex, but rather a Tony Stark science project gone wrong. Thanos went from a nihilist, death lover to a generic alien overlord with a dumb plan.

It doesn't look good for Disney's version of Dr Doom. He might end up being Urkel with a metal mask.

> Loki went from a manipulative, untouchable god of Mischief to a wimpy, good for nothing, screechy lackey
Good thing we now have alternate time-line Loki with his cosmic cube and nobody to be a lackey to.

I thought Annihilus is next event-wise?

Nobody knows who Annihilus is, meanwhile Doom is the most wanked up villain in the history of comics.

>Something’s more popular so it’s better

Grown Ups must be an incredible movie then. People who read the comics have been lukewarm at best towards the MCU Thanos, but the normies drown it out.

Death brought him back to life just to make death more consistent in a universe. Thanos instead became a god and did it on a reality-wide scale without a second thought. That’s not what she wanted at all, and he didn’t do it for some greater good.

Nobody knew who Thanos was either.

>people don't like movie Thanos
>yes they do
>popularity doesn't make something good
Enough! Those goalposts must stay where they are.

It’s because he’s tragic. He is so in tune with the bigger picture of the universe, yet his own emotions are what drive and beat him.

When Avengers came out I watched the Amazing Atheist's review of it and he was hype as fuck about Thanos.

Literally NOBODY

>Say that the comic fans of Thanos generally don't like the adaptation
>"Hurrays but more people like him than read comics"
>Point out that "It's more popular so it's automatically better" is a stupid train of thought
>"Hurr don't move goalposts"

Either you can't comprehend English or you're disingenuous.

>Say that the comic fans
No, you said PEOPLE. The post is right there for all to see, you cannot lie about this and get away with it.
Just take the L.

I was clearly referencing this thread, retard, and the criticism brought to MCU Thanos.

At least we know you're autistic.

The sooner you concede defeat the sooner you will know peace in your heart.

Guys, guys. You're both retards.

Ah, so either autistic or bait.

>Maybe if I just type something they'll notice me

Don't worry kohai, I noticed you.

actually i have never read it, i´m more a Secret Wars guy.

Secret Wars was the most fun even for a kid.

event*

Stalin liked MCU Thanos, so who the fuck am I to complain?

As his own character, without comparing him to the comic version, I liked him. I got over the differences between the two after Infinity War.

>Stalin liked MCU Thanos
Based Josef being a Marvel chad.

Yes I can see why he might. Take that Trotsky!

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I hope we can let go of faggot Loki and get God of Mischief Loki.

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I for one look forward to femLoki.

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In what way other than the character being purple, having a thing called an Infinity Gauntlet, and named Thanos was this shittacular MCU series of movies an adaption of Quest or Infinity Gauntlet?

You have the fucking stories already written. Just put them on the damn screen.

>faggot Loki
>has a cup full of semen
Kek

Since this was Loki in Sif's body, we should have pic related as new Loki. Count me in.

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Bite your tongue. That's John Buscema art.

>Jaime in this scene

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I think she can pull it off.

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>when he tortured Nebula in the comics he had an actual legitimate reason and she wasn't exactly an innocent nor was she his daughter.
He set her on fucking fire for the crime of claiming to be his granddaughter thus suggesting that he, Thanos, suitor of Death, had sullied himself by having sex. He's a goddamn Level 99 Wizard, you bitch!

Yes but it's still a cup full of semen. You do know Odin sucked off the jizz of men who had been hanged to obtain magical powers, right?

I think I can pull something too

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if they do it it'll be Eva Green. all i hope for is they let her get as freaky as she did in Penny Dreadful.

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Gib Sif gf

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>Fem Loki
>Marvels first trans villain
Jesus christ Im already dreading the idea

>he is now just the resources man who couldnt become a fucking and "aim to the head"
it didnt had to be like this.
it really didnt had to.

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Movie Thanos I still better. Feels like a legitimate threat and will never be beaten by fucking Squirrel Girl

They should've just made a preliminary film a la Captain Marvel but it's the Tragedy of Thanos before Infinity War.

One can dream, but honestly, we all know that if Loki came back as a woman, Disney would make him the first transexual superhero in order to score points with the Fedora Brigade. So, instead of lovely Jaime or sexy Eva, we would get pic related.

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>Movie Thanos I still better.
No you're not.

I'm curious how they'll do the Eternals and whether they'll have some link to Thanos. It's not like we ever saw another Titan so he could still be a Deviant of his people.

>Show me a live action version of Celestials shooting entire planets out of a cannon as a weapon and not look silly
this exact attitude is why we will never have a good fantastic four adaptation.

We did see some extras walking around during his little presentation, they were small and far away but they didn't look purple to me.

Movie Thanos gave the Avengers PTSD so bad he turned Thor into a potbellied, emotionally unstable lardass

Comics Thanos gets dabbed on twice a month by some literally who C listers

>Thanos gets dabbed
And just like that your credibility goes out the window.

That speaks more for the MCU heroes than it does for either Thanos.

>Dabs
Also you're a tit.

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>most wanked up villain in the history of comics.
The Joker

Oh no, my Yea Forums credibility

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How often does the Joker defeat omnipotent threats and become the god-emperor of the universe? I know of like two times. Doom does it all the time.

How can you keep this shit up? Don't you get tired of it?
And how the fuck aren't you banned? Does Yea Forums not have mods or do they just not care?

you dont get it, people saw through your bullshit and know you are just memeing.
Go be a retard somewhere else.

What would I be banned for? I'm not breaking any rules as far as I'm aware.

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Spamming.

I'd actually relegate the title to Doom still due to the sole fact that some people genuinely don't even see him as a villain.
Joker is there to serve as a foil to Batman and really can't have him without the other whereas Doom is just Doom and does what Doom pleases because he is DOOM!!1!
Doomwank surpasses even that of Batwank, it's fucking ridiculous.

>Spamming
And where did that happen? See how you're not making any sense?

Damn, you big brained funnybook intellectuals are just too sharp for my dull chimp brain.

Yes.

Yes. Lady Death as his motivation would not have made a good transition to screen,. replacing that with a misplaced sense of benevolence was a good call and made him a more engaging villain

>decided to kill everyone when he realized that the "kill 50% of all life" didn't worked as planned
It makes a fuck ton of sense since past thanos didn't went the same growth as future thanos.
Now I just want to see lady death revive thanos as a way for deadpool vs thanos to happen

>An ever increasing escalation events followed by cosmic humility and loneliness are not engaging but DUDE IM THE HERO OF MY OWN STORY totally is
You're a mong.

christian parents and chinese parents are just scared of explaining what the hell is "death" to children

>Lady Death as his motivation would not have made a good transition to screen

Why not?

Mephisto is too close to Loki or Satan for American audiences. You must always run these thoughts past a normie filter. Would the normies understand? Are there already too many characters for them to remember their names?

>Lady Death as his motivation would not have made a good transition to screen,
It worked for Pirates of the Caribbean.

Wouldn't these Christian children be asking questions about people dying and coming back?

>Did Black Panther go to hell, since he is clearly not Christian?
>Did Falcon talk to Jesus while in Heaven?
>How can Spider-Man be resurrected? Is he Jesus?

Ask your mother.

Why? She is atheist and doesn't give a shit about comic books or movies. Now go be fat somewhere else.

Christcucks don't let their kids go see movies that aren't made by Pureflicks.

You missed the joke.

Thanos has had sexual relations with various alien women, user.

They didn't died bobby, all of them are "snapped" which meant all of them went to the sleepy farm.

Fuck off Hickman

What the fuck kind of Christian children have you met in your life?

Should've went with the "i'll show them fear" aproach. Just like naruto and watchmen, easy enough for the audiences to understand.

Geez, user, read an actual comic for once.

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Imo i think CHOINA was the reason they ditched lady Death.
As far as i know they are really iffy with skeletons and the lot and she has a lot of skull iconography and the lot so the chinks wouldn't take it.

How does that even refute my point?

How long until we get the reql first MCU incel villain?

How does it not?

Maybe he thinks Thanos only goes down to brown town. The chocolate road. The poop chute.

If the problem was just the skeleton iconography, why not just get rid of that? It's not like it's an essential aspect of it. She has been represented as a woman before.

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Agreed. It's strange how they compared Thanos to Palpatine as "morally ambiguos vs evil", while I found Palps's goals and motivation more sensible.

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yes

Optimus Prime and the 80s generation of kids says hi
This isn't new user

>when one alt timeline thanos was implied to have literally fed avengers to the hulk

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>Movie Thanos I still better
Get out normalfag.

How the FUCK do I read infinity gauntlet on marvel unlimited? Single issues? How?

They didnt put the trade on there yet advertize it on the page. Fuck their UI is shit

>Lady Death as his motivation would not have made a good transition to screen
You mean normalfags could not handle it?

Man if only they where like, numbered or something.

Comic heroes didn't get PTSD from the snappening because it wad resolved literally within a day instead of five years.

Which also says more about their movie counterparts.

>You mean the Chinese could not handle it?

Fixed that for you.

I'm not sure I understand why you're so pissed off about this, these are movies, not comics, they have many different restrictions to consider. You can't have Thanos or Ultron faffing about for hours and hours and hours over months of movies before they're finally defeated, you can't have multiple villains constantly consorting with them because it means multiple people need to be paid and hired to act this out, you can't just throw in multiple cameos because it means the expense goes way up and who even knows if their schedule permits it, and so on. Ultron should have been done better, sure, but that would mean another IW/EG situation with him if you wanted better work considering they had to fit everyone into the movie.

Unless you literally have every movie show a progression of your major villain's journey that isn't just in a post-credits scene (Which will either take away from the titular character of the movie, interfere with the story because it results in nothing for the main character and an unsatisfying plot thread that won't be resolved until 5+ movies from now, or lengthen every movie by a good 20 minutes to an hour) you're always going to run into this situation simply because of the medium. You're never going to get multiple pages of Thanos monologuing with Adam Warlock or Mephisto because it means having to set them both up, pay for them, and then film them before they go away.

The villains will never be comic level because the comics have so much more they can work with without any real restrictions while movies have so many restrictions to account for. Granted, Disney is making money hand over fist with Marvel now so they should be able to, but if a movie flops that means they're out hundreds of millions just because people wanted more cameos.

Infinity War
>Yes
Endgame
>No

Retard.

Let's face it, it's too comic booky

They wanted to make a relatable and sympathetic villain and a dude who's madly in love with a chick that doesn't feel it, in todays climate, doesn't do it at all.

>thanos makes a tear filled love confession to Lady Death
>dramatic music swells
>Lady Death looks at him for a moment
>kicks him in the balls
>*record scratch*
>everyone says "OOOOOOOOOH" in unison
>all the guys cross their legs in sympathy pain
>Rocket puts paws over eyes and whimpers
>black widow quips "THAT'S GOTTA HURT"
>close up on thanos's face with him cross eyed
>he says in a silly high pitched voice while looking in the camera
>"Wowie zowie! Riiiiiiiiight in my infinity stones!"
>Cut to stan lee's corpse
>"Nuff said!"
>credits

I agree, but then you have to consider that they do have the books and still never bothered to read them, same for Thanos. All the normies watching the MCU movies who never even touched a comic book in their lives could, at any point, have grabbed some Thanos runs to better get the character, but they couldn't bother. They don't really care about context or deeper things,they just want a 2-3 hour spectacle, then to go back to their lives.

>three times
>infinity gauntlet
>cosmic cube

What was the third one?

The Infinity Stones, only they were called"soul stones". Nobody knew what they were at the time and Thanos used them to power a thing that blew up stars. Warlock stopped him.

im rereading rebrith of thanos, infinity gauntlet, and infinity war. comic book thanos is better than mcu thanos because of how batshit insane and evil he is.

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Endgame Thanos felt like a different character from Infinity War Thanos, Endgame Thanos is more petty.
Still, I find it weird that the movies try to paint him as this morally grey character who does exactly what he says he'll do and then Tony does the same thing except a lot more selfishly. Thanos erases half of everyone randomly, Tony erases all of his enemies. If Thanos was morally grey, what does that make Tony?

>morally grey
where are you getting this from? i mean they tried to him sympathetic in IW, and thanos thinks its fair by doing it randomly, but its still pretty fucked up.

but at the end, tony defeated him, good defeated evil.

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IW thanos was humbled after he had gone through hoops to get the stones and even had to choose between his plan or his daughter.
Endgame Thanos was a generic conqueror with population control on the back of his mind.
Also Tony can be a realy bitch and on the comics he'd grown full Emperor of the world on multiple occasions.

>morally grey character who does exactly what he says he'll do and then Tony does the same thing except a lot more selfishly.

Thanos murdered billions of innocent people.

Tony prevented the murder of billions of people by killing a murderer and creatures that helped him murder.

How you see this as the same thing is bizarre.

They paint Thanos as a monster who is misguided and justifies slaughter through faulty logic, what movies did you watch? Hell, the entirety of EG was them going "This guy murdered well well over several quadragintillion beings, what the fuck". Tony erasing Thanos and his goons is seen as a heroic moment because they literally all just wanted to murder everyone without remorse and short of killing them all there was no way to stop them and their insane ideals. Tony is a complete hero for erasing them and sacrificed his life to save an uncountable amount of people across the universe who have done nothing wrong besides exist.

His characterization in the movies, seemed to imply that he did what he thinks is for the greater good, he realizes how heinous his act is but also convinced at it's necessity.
Tony is completely convinced his act is noble and necessary.

Sure Thanos probably kills way more people than Tony, but he also does not target them, he left some of his greatest enemies like Thor simply by chance. Tony makes sure all those he deems his enemies dies.

I understand what you guys mean, Thanos and his minions are definitely evil for committing genocide of unprecedented scale but for my point. ignore whether or not the people that are killed are "good people" or "bad people" and simplify Thanos and Tony to person A and person B.
Person A to kills half of everyone regardless of their moral stance in comparison to his for what he believes would lead to a greater good.
Person B kills everyone who is against him.

That's part of my complaint, EG Thanos just straight up wants to kill everyone and restart, IW Thanos goes through trials and does the hard but what he sees as necessary thing.

The savior of the universe. Are you retarded? Thanos was going to kill everyone in the universe and recreate it to his will, Iron Man stopped him.

fuck you user how does this still make me laugh

That should have been the end of his story.

I don't get what's so confusing to people about EG Thanos being different. IW Thanos had spent years gathering the stones and reaping the cost of his actions, including multiple losses and his eventual crippled appearance (and death). EG Thanos had none of that yet, he didn't have the time to ponder as much yet, and when he was exposed to his eventual future if he followed his regular course of action he decided he needed to be even more drastic.

I want to say no as a comic book reader. But seeing the response he got from normies says that he reached the masses well. Much beter than apocalypse, Galactus , Doomsday etc.

I am satisfied.

>Person A to kills half of everyone regardless of their moral stance in comparison to his for what he believes would lead to a greater good.
>Person B kills everyone who is against him.
The difference here is that Person B is doing it for a completely moral reason: To save untold amounts across the entire universe due to Person A. There is no way this act is unjust whatsoever, Thanos doesn't kill people because he feels he is above them and that they don't understand his master plan. He even says this to, I think the GotG, when he's going to get the Reality Stone.

>EG Thanos just straight up wants to kill everyone and restart
Because he already saw the result of going through with his original plan; he wins but the ones who survive end up with resentment and revenge trying to undo his "miracle" rather than fix their consumption or learn a lesson from it. EG Thanos realizes that in order to make a world that can appreciate what he sacrifices he must redo everything instead of just culling the herd. He even explains this to Cap, Thor, and Tony. He also doesn't have to spend years looking for the stones and justifying the murders to himself and fight people to get to that point causing him to become wiser and more tactical.

This user gets it

I see, then both persons have what they feel is morally just reason.
Person A believes by culling half of of everyone randomly, the universe can survive(or thrive)
Person B can save unimaginable numbers of people across the universe by killing those who is set to an idea he disagrees with.

A's ideas are more long term and vague, B's ideas are more short term and has direct results.

Except Persona A's viewpoint is seen as pure evil by virtually everyone in existence. He and a handful of his equally insane compatriots have justified wholesale murder of untold amounts instead of trying to fix the problem in a manner that doesn't cause the death of countless others. Person B understand what Person A is saying but Person A is completely set in his way to murder everyone and will not stop no matter Person B or anyone else's arguments. It's like shooting dead a guy with a disease to save people around him rather than finding a cure to save even more people in the long run.

Wouldn't person B also be shooting dead a guy with a disease to save people around him?
The guy being person A.

In this analogy Person B would be shooting the guy who was shooting the other guy.

But both persons would still be killing a guy.
The difference being Person B knows the guy he's killing and Person A doesn't.

I certainly was. His comic motivations were terrible IMO. MCU Thanos was much more interesting. His actions made a certain degree of sense.

Except Person B is trying to save the other guy while Person A just wants him dead because he thinks it will convince everyone to kill others who are diseased to save everyone else. Thanos' plan doesn't even fix anything, it'll eventually get back to that same point in years, and since 99.999999% of the planets don't even know his plan they'll just have lost half the population and that's it for some unknown reason, not as a lesson.

I love asshole Thanos

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Yes, I understand Thanos's plan is retarded but it doesn't really fit the analogy since Thanos wasn't trying to make a lesson out of it, he genuinely believes doing that one snap is enough to balance the universe whatever that means, that's why he destroys the stones after.

From a very strict view of morality, ignoring whether the lives killed by either side are good or bad and also ignoring the amount:
-Both person A and B are killing someone
-Both convinced that what they're doing is good with A thinking it will do long term good while B thinking it will do short term good.
-A doesn't know who he's killing while person B does.

The difference here is that you're cutting out the details which are always required if you're going to argue if something is just or not. Sure, both people are killing someone, but Person A is doing it because he himself believes it will help someone while Person B is doing it because it WILL save countless others without harming innocents. If you're going to argue for Person A then the murders must be justifiable and even then you're killing innocent people which still makes you a terrible person.

It's like nuking Japan to stop more deaths down the line from their refusal to surrender, except in this case the US isn't providing help or recovery for them after having nuked them, and even then this specific example was done in a time of war. Thanos does this out of blue with his only justification being to himself.

>I’ve worked with movie scripts before and I’ve come to the conclusion that anyone who thinks they’re going to get a carbon copy of what they put down on paper is just being foolish. These movie production companies are spending millions and millions of dollars and they’re going to work it around to their universe, which is different than the comic book universe. So overall, no, I was very happy with what they’d done with Thanos.

-Jim Starlin

Take your e-celeb garbage outta here, nobody cares what they think.

According to Starlin, it's because Marvel didn't set up the universal abstracts in time. He likes what they rolled with, though. He recognizes this Thanos as its own thing that still "got" the character.

He can have sex without spawning a child but in Thanos Rising it clearly shows him impregnating random alien women across the cosmos.
It also shows that every child he begets, despite the differing alien races, will carry the Deviant Syndrome

Morrison also thought ok with Man of Steel and its sequel, BvS.
And yet those films are universally divisive at best.

What does Morrison even have to do with those stories? He didn't have anything to do with them. What does Frank Miller think about BvS?

In the context of this being movies, if phase 4 and so on is successful enough, they'll probably have to come up with a villain even worse than Thanos eventually for another big budget everyone-gets-together movie. That other literally-worse-than-Thanos could be one of the snapped people.
I understand that since this is a hollywood action flick, everyone who Tony kills is irredeemably evil, completely and justifiably killed off while everyone unsnapped are innocent people.

>Cool head
>Basically decides to pull a Mad king as soon as he gets the gems
Thanos is the anti - steven universe: lose it when he saw himself die. If he wasnt mad before, he sure as fuck was after.

You don't need to go bigger, a Galactus-type threat would work fine. Hell, even someone who goes around destroying everything is equally fine. You just need to have high enough stakes, they don't need to outshine Thanos' snap.

All they had to do was write Thanos as more maniacal than he was in the movie. Even Brolin kinda lamented, back when IW was released, that they focused to much on "sad grandpa Thanos." Maybe he was waiting for the moment the directors would tell him something like, "and here's where you 'UNLIMITED POWER' at the top of your lungs."

They were trying to make you understand Thanos' logic and reasoning with IW so him not going ham makes sense. It makes him a much more relatable and believable villain even if his motives are despicable. It makes him seem like a being that can think for himself and a more realized character. I could understand if you made EG's Thanos act more like how you're saying, but with IW it doesn't make much sense because it's setting him up and fleshing him out when he wasn't fleshed out before, especially because he's the primary antagonist for the next two movies instead of being in the shadows anymore.

Thanos saw no physical attraction with anything. The idea of children negates his nature as someone too aware of the cosmic balance to have simple urges.

He was having sex not because of physical attraction.
I don't know if this run is even canon or not but Thanos is a fucking psychopath from birth and was seduced by the personification of Death in his formative years and actually struggled to make things right in his case.
That's actual poetry right there, of the Mad Titan's actual descent to madness.

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>using anything not written by Jim Starlin as canon in regards to Thanos
Eugh.

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Comic Thanos seems like a dingus who has no real thoughtful character design.

So the adaptation made him a better character.

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Aww nice free storytime.

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You can read at any site with scans on your own time.
I'm just posting one issue.

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Meant for

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He was some sad evil warrior poet who was doing what was right.
Not some utterly twisted evil mind who sought to destroy all that is as a gift to the living personification of death.
While that is a bit too metal for some audiences.
His entire demeanor and personality would have made him a far more compelling and memorable character.

God dammnit do we need an over the top scenery chewing powerhouse badguy in the MCU.

My only hope is DOOM now. Galactus is never going to go over.

He ripped him in half!

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This might be the most important page in the issue.

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It's basically "Thanos failed at his attempt being a normalfaggot" if anybody wanted a tl;dr.

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That's it for this issue.

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Good ass on that one. What a waste.

Yes actually I movie Thanos better

>using a story wich Starlin retconned as your claim

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To be a joke it’s at least has to be slightly funny, but anyway (you)

Fuck off. His love for death and how far he can go to try and please her is what makes interesting character.

>seems like
Go read the fucking comics you casual and don't try to speak like you know shit.

Remember the Silver Surfer cartoon? That was a good Thanos.

Underrated

China doesn't like Death or skeletons.

Original Thanos was a genocidal maniac to begin with though. Movie Thanos had a semi-sympathetic motive.

user, Malekith and Ronan had like 5 minutes each and were nowhere near sympathetic or deep.

>Drr I want to kill for greater good
That's not sympathetic. That's asinine. It doesn't matter if he thinks it's necessary it's retarded. Comic Thanos was still far more sympathetic because despite all his power and genocidal lunacy he was still a creature of emotion whose downfall was his own hubris.

HELL fucking NO

You could literally set up Lady Death through Thanos so easily.
>Minion speaks to him about something
>Thanos is staring at a window
>Minion sees nothing
>Thanos sees Lady Death

>Thanos starts questioning his plans
>Sees a visage of Lady Death
>Speaks to her softly about how one day she will love him the way he loves her

>A mysterious figure approaches Thanos, and is actually a servant of Lady Death pleading him to stop

>Brief flashback of tiny Thanos almost dying, and explaining that it was the first time he saw “her” and new he wanted her for his own

>Thanos dies, and Lady Death reaches out to him, and they walk out of this plain of existance together, Thanos still swearing that one day she will see him as an equal

It’s not rocket science. And I like Starlin, but he’s not going to shit talk the juggernaut movie that made his character a household name.

comicbookherald.com/the-complete-thanos-reading-order-guide/
You're missing out on A LOT if yiu don't follow Thanos since his very first appearance up until Infinity Gauntlet. The entire thing will take a couple of months to read, but it's worth it. Everyhting makes sense and one thing doesn't contradict another, everything is a part of a huge story. It's some of the best Marvel sagas out there. Basically:
Iron Man 55
Captain Marvel 25-32
Avengers 125
Captain Marvel 33-34
Strange Tales 178-181
Warlock 9-15
Marvel Team-Up 55
Avengers Annual 7
Marvel Two-In-One Annual 2
The Death of Captain Marvel
Silver Surfer 34-38
Thanos Quest 1-2
Silver Surfer 44-50
The Infinity Gauntlet 1-6

They nerfed his powerset HARD.

Even back then, this was retarded. I remember there was a bit where Thanos said something like "there are more people alove right now than all previous eras combined". This is ovviius bullshit Starlin wrote while high on something and thought was clever and deep. 30 years later, Hollywood hacks decide to make the entire character revolve around this shit. This is insane.

Yeah, maybe that way he can also meet Adam Warlock.

The fact that you hunt down animals must also be asinine to them. But to you, it's greater good. You shouldn't judge every character from your perspective alone.

Kinda wish IW Thanos didn't get killed off, wish he was still alive and when Endgame Thanos shows up he actually flies off to talk with him and they end up disagreeing which is when IW Thanos gets killed by Endgame Thanos.

Aren't 2 and 3 kinda generally reviled?

>WHORES
-Frank Miller

The "Overpopulation bad genocide good" motivation isn't exactly groundbreaking, but it was written well in Infinity War, Endgame kind of shits on that by making him switch gears and attempt to destroy the universe, so he didn't care about Gamora's planet after all?

Also I thought the way the power of the stones were conveyed was pretty uncreative. Just flashy lasers mostly, it lacked the reality rending force of the comics stones.

No he did
It's just he saw from himself dieing in the future that no one would ever be on board with his plan, so he was just like "FUCK IT LET'S START OVER"

That's a retarded leap in logic that only a hack would use

No, it was an abomination.

Morrison outright said he disliked those movies.

Do you think he cast a hex on Zack Snyder?

When didn't Thanos just turn himself into a fucking and destroy than damn planet?

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I would be pissed about making Thanos into a jobber.

Lol Hemsworth and Evans would be on the CW by now without Thor and Captain America, RDJ would probably be dead by OD without Iron Man. Just because the MCU has disrespected the characters for a decade doesn't make them less enduring and popular characters.

No, he was actually a good guy in the movies and was a victim of a terrible home invasion. He wasn't built up to be totally evil and he seemed to be more of a simple farmer that a bunch of sore losers decided to perform a violent crime against. Watching that scene was like watching Shrek get murdered in his swamp. Totally uncalled for.

I can't tell if you're genuinely retarded or just making a joke, and that saddens me.

>Jason Aaron
Disgusting.

>Endgame kind of shits on that by making him switch gears and attempt to destroy the universe, so he didn't care about Gamora's planet after all?
Did you just completely miss why he switched gears?

new pasta?

Just because you provide a shitty explanation doesn't make it not stupid.

goddamn it i wish this happened

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The definition of the word adapt means to change.
Having two different takes on the character to compare and contrast is likely better than one just being an imitation of the original without taking the differences between the two franchises into account.

itt: people bicker about a movie the actors themselves probably forgot about already

Great post user,
Fun fact, Thanos made a same cameo in the panel of Avengers #118 during the Avengers/Defenders War in a panel he's seen defending Titan this is just prior to his first official appearance in Iron Man. I could be wrong how that happened because cover dates aren't reliable to go by but Englehart was friends with Starlin and he could have snuck him in there knowing what Jim was working on almost like a teaser of Thanos' proper introduction to the Marvel universe.

>Everyhting makes sense and one thing doesn't contradict another
minus Gamora's origin recon by Starlin in the pages of Warlock #10 first it was the Universal Church then Starlin decided to play around with the timeline and made it be the Badoons who wiped out the Zen Whoberis. The time travel rules from Endgame actually match up with Starlin's whacked drug fueled ideas. Also Starlin has said that there was supposed to be Warlock #16, which never happened because the titled got cancelled the story then continues in Avengers Annual #7 and Marvel Two-in-One Annual #2, this is why Gamora getting betrayed and attacked by Thanos happened off panel.

also to get the whole story you would have to add Kirby's Eternals as Thanos is part of that saga then throw in Avengers #246, 247, and 248 Roger Stern connects the Eternals with Titans. The Thanos Annual Starlin got Ron Lim to do with him is also important because it takes place right after Captain Marvel #33 and it sets up Thanos: The Infinity Revelation. Logan's Run #6 has a backup story involving Thanos worth reading through.

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I used to think that, but Shazam had no problem being all about magic and including the Seven Deadly Sins feature in the movie while still releasing over there. None of that "Magic is just science we don't understand" bunk in the movie either.

China hates magic?

That's one pretty hype page

My main problem is his plan was asinine.

Their censorship board gets twitchy about overtly supernatural stuff in foreign cinema since they see it as bordering on religious propaganda coming in from the West.

got that reprint page for you

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This is the only non-retarded take on it. Comic book Thanos is literally just a comic book villain. Not that that's bad, but it means he will always be evil because of plot reasons. MCU Thanos has an actual character arc, with clear objectives and reasoning.

"Being in love with Death" is not a fucking character arc.

why thank you

None of those, with maybe the exception of Watchmen, actually play this trope as cleanly as Infinity War did. Thanos is obsessed with the idea of balance, and he actually witnessed his planet crumble due to overpopulation. Some hints in Endgame actually reveal that his plan actually worked, with earth's oceans becoming cleaner and teeming with wildlife once again.

Watchmen is the only other work where this is played in a similar way, where the logic behind the plan is actually sound and necessary and not just a generic "destroy to rebuild" excuse to kill everyone.

Thanos has literally zero reasons to be obsessed and in love with death in the comics. He is naturally sadistic and cruel from birth, and his character arc is basically "I want to have a lot of power to impress Lady Death who I am in love with simply because the plot demands it"

The comic book version of the snap is literally meaningless in the realm of character motivation. He just does it, and it is absolutely just for shock value. There's no build up to it, there's no real emotional weight to it, he simply does it.

It's all comic booky as fuck, you never really empathize with him in any way. It's a generic super hero brawl, made grandiose by its cosmic scale.

If you can't understand how MCU Thanos is a much better written character that works much better for a theatrical adaptation than you simply don't get how writing and narratives work.

Yeah but Nebula also claimed to be his grandaughter to take over Sanctuary II and lets face it she was no innocent. She genocided Xandar and was a warmongering conqueror. MCU Nebula was a victim to MCU Thanos sadism and we never get a food reason.

It's why I specified Starlin's Thanos althoufh he wouldn't be above that if he had a reason.

Which gets thrown out the window in endgame especially when shit doesn't go his way and his sadism comes out. Comic Thanos was awful no denying it but his saving grace was that he is loyal to the people he cares about. The worst he did to Gamora was left her for dead in that one story but Starlin admitted he hadn't worked her being his daughter at that time and he only hurt her because she attacked him.

But aftereards, under Starlin at least, he is very concerned about Gamora's emotional well being and her mental state both for selfish reasons but also because he doesn't like seeing her upset. It's why he distracted her by sparring with her when Adam ignored her in infinity War (the comic) and let her beat him. Why he showed up and asked Gamora to go with him when she was crying about being lonely. Telling her he was there were no one else was. Hell under Starlin Gamora ocassionally was angry at him but she never hated him.

Compared to MCU Thanos who got his jollies out of daring Quill to shoot Gamora or faking his death just to see Gamora cry, he gets off on her suffering. Whereas Starlin's Thanos always seemed bothered by it, even in the Yuletide story when Gamora sacrificed her fav doll to save him.

they're afraid western magic will place spooky skellingtons under their skin

The whole point is that it doesn't much work at all since it is contradictory.
Even Watchmen points this out, Adrian was wrong.
Bane from the Dark Knight Rises (an extension of Ra's draconian plans to punish and eradicate the corruption that is Gotham so that they may emerge for the better) went about in the same way as this.
Ra's literally mentions restoring FUCKING BALANCE but not about muh resources but how societies, when reaching their most decadent and corrupt, must be wiped out by the League of Shadows.
Except it didn't have space fights or pew pews, they were just terrorists who judges who is worthy to live in their eyes.

But...x-rays.

Que?

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>The whole point is that it doesn't much work at all since it is contradictory.
But it works. The planets Thanos personally conquered and brought balance to became paradises, which only fueled his obsession even more.

>Even Watchmen points this out, Adrian was wrong.
He was wrong, but his plan worked out, at least for a time. His fault was in his hubris, same as Thanos, in thinking that his way was the only way, and not realizing the contradiction of it all.

And yeah, the league in Nolan's movies wants to "restore the balance", but the execution isn't nearly as empathetic. I'm not saying they're bad by any means, I actually really like Ra's in Begins, but he basically goes from "good hearted secondary character" in one act to "evil antagonist" in the other, and it's all rather sudden. Also there's never any proof that the league's methods work, since they're not really preserving anything by destroying doomed societies, simply hastening the end.

Infinity War shows you Thanos on a journey, you accompany him and his reasoning all throughout the movie, and the movie drops hints that he's not insane, but that he has actual valid reason to be convinced in his methods. They might sound retarded, but IN UNIVERSE, they make sense to him.

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dark western magics

>Nebula with long hair
We will never see this.

Ra's ideology is more sound than Thanos being hamfisted about balance though.
And Thanos doesn't choose to kill the corrupt, he chooses to kill literally half of everything arbitrarily as A SOUND GOAL, jumping from planet to planet conducting mass killings, utilizing the gauntlet only to expedite his process.
I'm only irked that people laud Thanos in that principle when it has been executed better in a single film that didn't require 20 films prior.
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Why?

Man I forgot to how good this movie was.

every time

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>It's all comic booky as fuck
Okay so? That is why i read comics? Is there something wrong with that? Also does it matter if it doesn't make sense to Thanos be in love with Death? It still great character trait in my opinion.
>If you can't understand how MCU Thanos is a much better written character that works much better for a theatrical adaptation
You mean it works better for normalfags who are too dumb to think anything as important.

He was extremely evil edgy for the sake of just being extremely edgy. This movie, or well Infity War, actually made him sound smart and collected and not like a giant manchild. Anyone read that new thanos series they put out shortly before infinity war released? It was exactly that, an edgy mess just to hype up Thanos because they were banking on the MCU Thanos being an edgy OP shit. Then they reversed all that shit once they realized they were completely in the wrong.

>He was extremely evil edgy for the sake of just being extremely edgy
This is a problem whenever someone other than Jim Starlin writes Thanos.

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How many times have they retconned Thanos and Gamoras relationship now? Cause they're doing it again, just after they had done it at least two times more in the last few years.

I just ignore everything regarding his backstory that wasn't done by Jim Starlin back in the old days. As far as I'm concerned Thanos died when Drax killed him during Annihilation and that was the end of that.

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>Oops! I let go of the Infinity Stones!

No love for Thanos Imperative?

Not really, no. There was no reason for Thanos to be there.

Thanos being as close to fatherly as he can muster never fails to make me smile.

At the end of Avengers (2012) the Chitauri general finishes the sentence he was telling Thanos with the words, "is to court death." I think this implies they were originally going to make it closer to the comics, with Lady Death and all that.

I unironically prefer movie!Thanos to the real Thanos and I didn't even like movie!Thanos that much.

I legitimately cannot remember anything about Thanos except for his horrendously stupid motivations and da choppa

Oh, yeah, and Thanos smiled right after thr Chitauri general said this.

He does try.

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It probably was Whedon's intention, considering he's the one who convinced Feige to let him try and build Thanos up as the MCU's big bad. Obviously though since he left immediately after AoU, it was handed off to the Russos and we got what we did.

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AoU was also when Thanos said, "Fine, I'll do it myself," after Ultron tried to kill all humans for similar reasons to Thanos' overpopulation motive, though, I think.

>This is a problem whenever someone other than Jim Starlin writes Thanos.
>I just ignore everything regarding his backstory that wasn't done by Jim Starlin back in the old days.
Englehart was the only other writer to write Thanos in his prime and he did a great job too. Everyone else makes him an edge lord for no apparent reason. Where did this interpretation come far and no wonder Starlin had to say there was clones of him out there especially with the Squirrel Girl defeat and the Kazar appearance under Waids run, Starlin was pissed they weren't getting his baby right.

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Remember when Thanos was embarrassed that he once built a ship and called it Dreadnought-666?

Huh, didn't know he used "mysticism".
Also, being defeated by Squirrel Girl is no shame and Starlin's first retcon origin already made him edgier.

No. Not evil enough and not enough power level wankering. MCU really needs to get on that MOS levels of power wankering.

I'm unironically disappointed we never got cosmic scale IG Thanos fighting across trippy Dr. Strange style battlefields against Celestials.

>Starlin's first retcon origin already made him edgier
What issue did this take place in?

Test.

Loki in Thor 1 was by far the greatest villian in the MCU, then they got cocky and made a joke out of him and Thor instead of making an actual decent arc and a nice brotherly rivalry. They could've fleshed him out further and made him on par with the Joker, but they messed up so hard.

I like that they introduced Loki with a semi-sympathetic background, and about he's adopted, and how upset and bitter he is about Thor and his father, but you can see that despite his past, he still genuinely evil, and he's not meant to be sympathized with. And that is a unique angle, not unlike the Joker. I'm kind of glad they killed him though, because I couldn't stand to see them ruin him like I don't understand why he was helping Thor in Ragnarok or why he's just a joke most of the time.

He was helping Thor because he wasn't completely vile. Also there's a series coming out about him.

That's not how you spell BASED

Not sure, but I think it's when the Surfer went to Titan to learn about him, right on the buildup for Infinity Gauntlet.

That post invaded my dreams: some magical villain always managed to elude capture after committing crimes (a tram robbery, I think it was in the case I saw) but there was always some different couple going at it somewhere nearby. I knew, but the characters didn't, that clearly the villain was, as a disguise, becoming the act of coitus.

On the flipside the movies don't have to adhere to status quo like the comics do

Oh you mean when Thanos comeback to life. That falls in Silver Surfer #34 through #38.

And that's an horrible thing!

>a better mentor/father figure rivalry depicted than Thanos and Gamora
Batman Begins is unironically one of the greatest cape films to ever hit cinemas

Loki has helped Thor in the comics, AND what makes Loki unique in mythology is that he is a trickster who does bad things but is not necessarily evil. He's not satan

If they ignored the entire Thanos element in Endgame beyond confronting him at the start, it would be a much better movie. Too bad they need their big dick action scene.

>especially with the Squirrel Girl defeat
Yeah fuck fun.

I assume "To court death." was just Whedon's line.

i thought he was good in IW. i feel like his only reason to go through all this to love death would be extremely hard to translate to film and the mcu already have a long list of shit villains, so i could see them trying something new and make a more compelling villain rather than a faithful one.

i am disappointed though in endgame they cut a decent thanos immediately and then gave us some middle ground between that and death-worship. hes ruthless now which was great but like all the nuance before is kinda lost in that, so since they never brought death into it, he just comes off as a big meanie and really just an obstacle for the story rather than an actual character.

He was totally out of line with that Mistletoe shit

it was just a prank bro

Eh it was ok. I am still a bit disappointed they changed his motivation, seeing how they directly hinted at it in his first appearance.

Yeah it shows how someone cared and the Russo's apparently didn't want to.

Yeah, I'm really annoyed the Russos or whoever else thought they were too good for "he wants to fuck a skeleton" as a villain motivation, so they gave him something that ended up being considerably more nonsensical that makes so little logical sense that not even his being called the Mad Titan really justifies it. He could have literally brought his people and homeworld back to life. This is some of the worst writing I've seen in something I enjoyed in a while.

>Everyone else makes him an edge lord for no apparent reason.
there is Based Ewing, though.

IIRC his defeat by Squirrel Girl's hand is still canonically him and not a copy

Considering it came out of Hollywood, I can't believe it was even possible to get as good an adaptation of Thanos as we got.

no Death - the writing is a failure

Right I forgot the Squirrel Girl series, in it, she told Galactus it was the real Thanos she defeated and not some clone like Dan Slott hinted at in She-Hulk.

the Squirrel Girl book is not canon, user.
Some of that stuff happened, but not the way it's portrayed in the book

Yeah it's like they read/saw Watchmen, and just retrofitted Ozy's plan for Thanos.

>HE'S GONNA SAY IT

>snap sound coming from the top of the fingers
Don't they know that the snap sound is your fingering hitting your palm and not the fingers making it?

>Slott
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