Reminder that the best Marvel character designs weren't even drawn by Marvel.
Reminder that the best Marvel character designs weren't even drawn by Marvel
Ryder Moore
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Luis Anderson
You are right
Mason Johnson
That is based off from the comics.
Camden Walker
I mean, I don't see how an entire publisher can draw something, I don't think abstract concepts have hands...
Bentley Cox
Bengus didn't really do any redesigns, he just copped what they looked like in the mid-90s. That said, his art for the MvC games was godly.
Jack Fisher
mvc art is so fucking good, but it's basically just the designs they had in the comics of the time.
Jeremiah Edwards
But that's just Jim Lee's design with different colours.
Samuel Thompson
90s era was peak X-Men and Capcom had some of the best artists backing those designs. Cyclops and Psylocke had amazing sprites too. Truly a wonderful time.
James Bennett
Anyone else remember when Squirrel Girl was entertaining and enjoyable?
Ian Edwards
Also worth noting that Bengus drew Venom better than McFarlane or Bagley ever did.
Easton Harris
He also wasn't involved with the in-game spritework either, that was Akiman and a bunch of spriters you've never heard of.
Brody Turner
Wow yeah, fat Venom with a retard jaw, amazing
Juan Wright
What people don't realize is that the characters in Children of the Atom had way more frames of animation than in Marvel vs Capcom 2 or even X-Men vs Street Fighter.
The most extreme example is Sentinel, who is almost a completely different character in COTA.
Evan Jones
No. She was always a shitty joke that they never stopped hammering.
Jose Brooks
Retard jaw Venom is best Venom.
Was Magneto all that different originally when he was the super overpowered boss of CotM?
Nathan Cook
I figured as much. COTA almost feels like it was made by the Darkstalkers team with all of the animation frames and the combo system. While it might be limited compared to later games, I still love it dearly for the amount of effort and care that went into it.
Aiden Clark
That's what happens when they have to cut down on frames to free up more space for characters.
Ryan Hughes
They pretty much blew their entire load on CotA, using the CPS2 board's entire storage capacity (first game to do so, I think?). That meant that in subsequent games they'd have to make cuts somewhere in order to fit new stuff in.
Michael Collins
That's just 90s Rogue in kawaii uguu desu ne style. I don't think you know what design is.
Kevin Price
I think this vid will explain boss Magneto better than I can but to summarize:
-auto meter fill
-homing projectile
-force field gives him ridiculous amounts of invincibility for almost 30 seconds if undamaged and can tank a full super
-hyper grav is much stronger
John Morgan
90s Capcom is hardly "kawaii uguu desu ne." The characters actually have noses, lips, chins and eyelids.
Alexander Gutierrez
>30 seconds of invincibility
Sorry, I over stated it. It's about 10 seconds. It only feels like 30 when Mag's kicking my ass.
Jonathan Wright
I hope Udon get the greenlight to re-release the MvC artbook someday. That shit goes for silly money on eBay now.
Brody Harris
I thought that it was already established that the Japanese are better than Americans at literally anything art-related.
Hunter Fisher
Whens my boy gonna get in?
Liam Edwards
The best thing about COTA is that it has the mechanics of a VS game, but the damage and stun values of Street Fighter 2. So you get wacky shit like throws doing 30% damage by themselves and characters getting dizzy after 3 hits.
Luis Parker
I AM THE APOCALYPSE!
Austin Morris
By manga standards, sure.
Nathan Howard
by any standard
Sebastian Powell
Retarded opinions can be established, sure.
Hudson Lewis
Leo Diaz
No.
Benjamin Rodriguez
most of these could be published in an american comic and not seem out of place or especially anime-y
Ryder Campbell
It sucks that fighting games are obsessed with bloating their rosters because it's way cooler to have something like COTA, Marvel Superheroes or Darkstalkers where you have a small amount of hyperdetailed characters that are all massively different from each other. The closest you got to that from a modern fighting game was Skullgirls.
Elijah Rivera
Disagree. Japanese artists are usually better at drawing motion and it's why the action mangas are so popular globally and the fight scenes are so universally praised. Even the best American comic book artists kinda fall flat on that. American comic books are more well known for their individual characters and the chemistry/writing of those characters. Great comic books are remembered for their art, but for their writing while great manga is known for their action panels.
Of course, there are ALWAYS some outliers, so don't take it as universal constant.
Isaac Morgan
Leo Ward
PORT RED EARTH TO CONSOLES ALREADY CAPCOM YOU FUCKS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ayden Rivera
I wish they would make a Darkstalkers 4 and put the Warzard characters, Ruby Heart and Amingo all into it. They all fit.
Zachary Cruz
We have gotten a few first time arcade ports in the past few years (Battle Circuit, Armored Warriors, Alien VS Predator), so I'd say Red Earth has a chance.
Connor Ward
I want her to straddle me.
Nolan Ward
one of the most boring characters ever designed, even cartoon force at least has an appeal.
so glad Gwenpool stole her main gimmick.
Juan Watson
>weeaboos
Thomas Thompson
Bengus is god
Hunter Martinez
I agree. Xmen v Street Fighter has the best design.s God I with there was a whole series in that style
Sebastian Williams
I would love for Marvel to hire Bengus ( or Kinu Nishimura) for a mini series
Liam Murphy
>Alien VS Predator
>It's stuck on that stupid arcade thing and won't be added to the Beat 'em Up Bundle via a free update
Adam Bell
>Bengus will never work on X-men or Spider-man.
Would be something else though.
Brandon White
Reminder that one of the best Marvel games is gone forever
Ryder Rogers
You're missing out if you don't appreciate both the East and West, senpai.
Jeremiah Robinson
>Disagree. Japanese artists are usually better at drawing motion and it's why the action mangas are so popular globally and the fight scenes are so universally praised.
Read RYOKO if you haven't. Some of the most dynamic looking action I've seen in any comic.
Parker Phillips
disprove it then
Gabriel Wright
Eh, it had potential but I think there was a lot that really kept it from reaching it. For one they kept dumbing down the game play and skill trees and there was way too much focus on MCU pandering. I mean I get it you got to sell the brand but it's still a bummer. I mean we got Loki before a shit load of heroes. Also Bendis.
Nathan Williams
It was still fun for what it was. Especially playing as big boys like Hulk and Juggs.
Josiah Morgan
Hey I ain't saying it was bad. I had some fun with it too. Even dropped some money to get the Mayday suit.
Chase Hall
Man X-men COTA was such a wild thing. It's easy to look at MvC as a franchise but to just take a moment to remember where it started.
Xavier Lewis
God the Rule 63 outfits were top notch, especially that one and female Hawkeye
Daniel Hall
When Mayday was wearing Pete's version it looked kind of crappy to be honest. Maybe the black and red variant would have looked better but it was a piss time all around.
Leo James
True. I just wish I could go back and play. I had a toaster that could barely handle the game at the time and never really got to play it on settings above low-medium.
Jayden Parker
Weekly manga can afford to do lengthy fight scenes while a monthly comic will feel like a rip-off if it's just that.
Jacob Johnson
HA HA HA
Brody Taylor
The edited version is nicer.
Jayden Reed
>dat detail on the upper inner thighs
Christian Long
God I want a slim thicc Asian gf so bad
Nathan Campbell
Henry Edwards
This one, this one understands what the good shit really, truly is.
Lucas Jackson
Bengus is so good bros
Ian Clark
>Bengus is so good
He was good. Now his art seems pretty bad, what the hell happened during all those years between SFV?
Cooper Rivera
Best Thanos for sure.
Jacob Cook
BUBBLES
Ryder Baker
THANOS REIGNS
Dylan Peterson
A really massive badass. Would kill to see how classic Capcom would do Darkseid.
Andrew Morales
I want blame Capcom more than him for that. They probably gave him fuck all time and money and just used drafts.
John Powell
>TFW you forget to make your girlfriend be able to breath in space
Blake Ramirez
No this isn't true I'd say, however seeing characters that one can describe with the clarity of a relative through the lenses of an artist that comes from a different culture or even origin. It just really allows you to appreciate in an almost strangely nostalgic way.
Xavier Powell
Terraxia's the real MVP considering she beat Spider-Man to death with a rock and ripped Iron Man's head off.
Evan Ramirez
why didnt thanos make himself a waifu in endgame?
Jaxson Murphy
I kinda want this specific Sentinel to be a canon character with all that cool shit
Landon Reyes
Well he does kind of look like Juston's (F) and there was also O*N*E Bro. (maybe F?)
Adrian Ramirez
Wait isn't there one of this but with Spidey and Sakura?
James James
no , she had a lot of groundswell during the bedis-vengers then sjws 'claimed' that character before anything good came out of the character
Asher Smith
Yep. The ending is slightly different depending on the version: youtube.com
Jeremiah Cruz
looks like a typical manga action scene that dragon ball defined three decades ago
Noah Martinez
Don't forget my monkey Sonson
Zachary Anderson
Cute monkey
Ryan Campbell
I wanna spank that monkey!
William Morris
How come there never was a Marvel vs Capcom comic?
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Ethan Harris
MvC3 included a short one but other than that yeah I can't think of one. Even a promo one-off would have been cool during the 90s.
Landon Hughes
Gavin Morales
Bengus is great. He manages to make anime, comic book and even cartoonish characters blend together nicely without changing a lot of their original designs.
I hope we get a MvC game with Skullgirls or Cuphead animation(as in "playable cartoons") with his art. Sadly MCU shilling is here to stay and the roster won't be as cool as it could be
Kayden Richardson
>I hope we get a MvC game with Skullgirls or Cuphead animation
i really hope we don't
Aaron Murphy
I'd even be happy if they pulled an Xrd with models based on his style.
Jayden Taylor
can't remember something that never happened
Josiah Perez
To be honest I wish it was all spritework but that is never happening
Isaac Bailey
Ive actually been playing mvc2 a bit the last few days
I’m fucking terrible
But one day I’ll get Thanos’s bubble infinite in a real game
Might pick up Juggernaut as a second character
Not sure who my third should be
Leo Rodriguez
I'd recommened Sentinel or Captain Commando. Both are great at both low and top levels of play.
Noah Brooks
>Sadly MCU shilling is here to stay and the roster won't be as cool as it could be
>tfw we'll never get obscure Marvel waifus in these games ever again
Zachary Martinez
>comic games are no longer for fans of the comics
This is just sad.
Luis Young
I remember reading about how the owner of the company was a rapist and openly talked about it on his personal blog./
I also remember how that game was like when it was about to go; everything that came out was just re-use of assets, getting to the point where the final support character they made was "S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier". it had no model, and all it did was make explosions.
oh and also they fucked up shutting it down; they literally just left it running in the building, past their shutdown date, because they couldn't be bothered. It only went out at all because nobody was paying for electricity.
Adrian Stewart
You're misremembering the last bit
They said it would shut down at the end of November that year. It shut down the first week of November instead without warning.
Daniel Thomas
How do they do it?
Dominic Mitchell
Fuck all those other guys. I remember.
Jack Mitchell
I remember when Yea Forums was entertaining and enjoyable.
Logan Sanders
But being fat and ugly makes her relatable!
Henry Torres
What the fuck is that art?
Kayden Miller
That aint Evolution
Kevin Bennett
This is the Marvel Universe now.
Jayden Thompson
That was the one with the vegetables, right? I remember that being pretty good.
Dylan Turner
I love how they had the balls to include obscure characters because they would be interesting from a gameplay standpoint. Characters like Spiral, Shuma Gorath or Blackheart are way cooler than whatever boring street level character or Spider-man villain that fans kept begging for.
Jose Green
Agreed. Anything is better than "generic guy who shoots and punches".
Evan Nelson
Well I'd rather take a random dark horse than a MCU character at this point
Lincoln Bell
Agreed. Shame they slept on my boy Ghost Rider for so long though. Sucks even more he never shared a Capcom fighter with Blackheart.
Eli Campbell
It's why Injustice was so boring because you had Batman, but then you had all of Batman's sidekicks and then all of Batman's villains and then all of Batman's friends.
If 90's Capcom made a DC fighting game you'd haven seen shit like OMAC or the haunted tank.
Samuel Scott
Starro lives!
Colton White
Injustice is honestly just pure batwank at its finest.
Landon Sullivan
in artwork, sure, but the sprite was kind of a disgrace
Nathaniel Peterson
>sjws 'claimed' that character
What happened?
Hudson Anderson
He lost a ton of animation frames going from Marvel Superheroes to Marvel vs Capcom 2. Also for some reason his head doesn't actually move during his walk animation in MvC2 it looks awful.
Levi Brooks
I wouldn't even MIND all the Batwank if they at least included more interesting Bat characters. I'd rather have Clayface, a fleshed out Mr. Freeze, and Killer Moth over Catwoman, Batgirl, and Red Hood. Scarecrow and Poison Ivy were good choices though.
Connor Green
>Juggernaut lost his grab move
>Colossus lost his OTG grapples
>Ryu lost his transformations
>Wolverine was nerfed to oblivion
>Thanos lost ALL but 2 moves
A lot of characters got screwed over in the transition to MvC2.
Alexander Russell
But perfected by the Japanese.
Jacob Murphy
It was that or Psylocke's jiggle. I think they made the right choices.
Alexander Moore
>>Wolverine was nerfed to oblivion
This one was a positive though. It was nice to finally have a VS game where it wasn't 'learn how to deal with Wolverine's bullshit, THEN you can have fun'
Unfortunately Wolverine was replaced by characters that were even more bullshit.
David Parker
Batgirl would be fine if they picked the right one.
Nicholas Ortiz
I remember when Yea Forums loved and cherished her, reminds me that I’ve been here too long. We got everything we could have wanted from her during Great Lake Avengers so I’m not too mad, I just wish that part wouldn’t be forgotten.
Austin Ramirez
>90s
>peak X-Men
The actual comics were shit tho
Matthew Miller
It’s hard to enjoy other dc characters when you know they will always have to orbit Batman. Super girl and Harley ended up working for him after Injustice 2, if it had been made in Japan then it would be rebranded as a harem series.
Blake Parker
They got a random tumblr user to make a squirrel girl comic and paired her up with every female and minority character while retreading on all her old material without any clever twists.
Benjamin Thompson
At least the Injustice universe was destroyed.
Sebastian Fisher
Yeah probably. Like, I loved the 90s Spider-Man cartoon but I think we all know Spider-Man has been on the decline for the past 3 or so decades.
Austin Bailey
Early 90's stuff wasn't bad. There was the Liefeld stuff yeah, but that got salvaged by subsequent writers like Niceiza. Claremont era they were not (aside from the odd issues he did ofc) but they were still fun reads.
Wyatt James
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Fuck man, the music in these Capcom fighters were so fucking good. How can the film scores even compete?
Evan Johnson
Run a rom.