Anime has gay shit

>anime has gay shit
>nobody really cares
>western animation has gay shit
>REEEEE FUCKING SJW PROPAGANDA

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people jerk off to anime so they don't care. Yea Forums uses fapability as its primary measure of quality

Personally I don't like anime but it's obvious that when the Japs add minority characters to their shows they are created as characters first and their race/sexuality is just one aspect of their personality. Most Western shows are so absolutely deranged in their need to provide positive representation that it supercedes any sort of actual characterization and ironically creates a racist token stereotype.

>implying most LGBT characters in Japanese media aren't done so for the sake of a joke first and character third

Believe it or not that's really looked down upon over there. Other than anime like Sailor Moon or Yuri On Ice it's not done in a positive light.

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remember when 4kids, known for concealing boobs, had to add an extra boob to a fucking yugioh card to make it clearly female

Don't feed the trolls, etc etc. There will always be time well spent away from this hellsite.

source?

People forget that anime is a relatively niche industry, occupying the same place in culture as comic books did in the 60s through the 90s in the west. They have more room for subtle writing because they don't need to worry about suburban moms not getting it, unlike western cartoons which are aimed at the same audience as shit like the big bang theory

Yes and no. They don't hate homosexuality like western christians do (japan doesn't really outright hate much of anything in the same way westerners do unless it has to do with foreigners), but at the same time it is seen as weird and immature. It's discouraged, but you're not going to get shot over it

But I bitch about fujoshit all the time, it ruined my fucking anime. The reason why its worse with Yea Forums is because you manage to know more about the person responsible and it seems way more vocal than just anime where dude kiss and girls smoosh boobs. Anime also has the added factor of fanservice in general whereas the same media in the west doing the pandering bullshit actively despises attraction to anything.

pandering is a good thing, isn't it just giving certain fans what they want?

Most of the time its at the expense of good storytelling or knowing some form of restraint.

okay, please react to straight kisses the same

the difference between fujos and sjws is that one actually pays for things

I feel like you're being obtuse.

Eastern gay shit is fan service usually or treated like any other couple. Western gay shit is like this

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This is the worst kind of writing, and I don't even mean just relative to the gay shit. Every sentence in that is obnoxious on its own.

>Most Western shows are so absolutely deranged in their need to provide positive representation

You should have seen the embarrassing flips some people were pulling when Zombie Land Saga revealed Lily was trans. The made-up narrative of Crunchyroll altering translations was so B.S. that even a fan sub group came out and said "No, Lily is trans in the original Nothing was changed."

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>pandering is a good thing, isn't it just giving certain fans what they want?

It's only "pandering" when it isn't aimed at straight white men.

How retarded of you.

badda-bing, badda-solve.

gay for comedic or masturbatory purposes is not propaganda

Tara seems bro as fuck

Their gay shit is driven by shojos who are just doing it because it moistens them up.
The gay shit over here is created by SJWs with an agenda. They only get off to gay shit as long as it also wanks off their political beliefs. It can't just be something smutty, it has to have some sort of political statement, or be some act of 'defiance' against the system.

fucking 12 year old

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>posting obnoxious reaction images
>REEE caricature greentexts
>getting mad people hate the kind of cancer that comes with western gay shit
People like you have long since ruined this board, why do you still try and beat the dead horse?

fpbp and probably should just be the only post.

Is that a real name or an anime name.

the difference is that anime fujos accept BL as a fetish rather than touting it as something that is morally superior.

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How come people only point out the waifufaggotry on this board when they want to use it to further points like OP's instead of the general issue of waifufags being cancer?

eastern gay shit actually manages to be worse because it completely ruined the battle shounen genre. 80's battle shounen had bromance moments that actually felt like bromance, not like a cuddly colored friendship with huge homoerotic undertones. The reason for this change is because fujos are a demographic just as profitable as hikkis

Gays in anime are for fujoshit/yurifag fapping, so it's ok

There is only one currently running anime that has a bromance I actually like or care about, and its been running since the 90s.

Either you're ignorant or you haven't been to Yea Forums in a while.

it's always trying to prove a point because straight writers view gays in animation as some kind of diversity trophy. at least most of the shitty attempts get pawned off on the lesbians :^)

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Pandering is only bad when it's for women because yucky and doesn't make my peepee hard!

A lot of the time it isnt straight writers thats the fucking problem.

What's your definition of waifufag, exactly?

Do you not remember Zombieland when it was revealed one of the idols used to be a boy?

i'd still solve

If you have spent more than a day on this board than you know everything being a waifufag entails. Anywhere from the Raven Jenny things to the cutesy kitty is not a cat cancer. It even goes as far as those threads creaming over shitty e-celeb and industry avatars.

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Jumpman you fucking braindead cunt that wasn't what I was asking.

>Gay shit for gay people in gay shows or gay shit for me to jack off

Good

>Gay shit forced into old properties or stuff trying to appeal to me, there to tell me what to think

Bad

It's that easy, fagtron.

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In anime these characters aren't forced in there for the sake of preaching a message. Nor is there a Sudden Lesbian Switch happening right and left. In the west, it's become a clear and unmistakeable effort to push an agenda when including gay shit. In Japan, it's for story or comedy purposes, and nothing more.

You wouldn't want someone to come up to you and start preaching while you were enjoying your entertainment. And that's what this is. There were random gay chars in the past, but they weren't part of an agenda. Even those today that might not be suffer from the fact that the LGBTQXA+ alphabet soup group has been publicly proclaiming multiple times their goal is to groom the next generation by forcing their agenda everywhere into everything.

So now even someone well meaning is walking a mine-field. Those agenda pushers are to blame over and above all else.

>does a 4channel thing that people have been doing for years
>YOU'RE LITERALLY KILLING THE WEBSITE WHY CAN'T YOU JUST ACCEPT THAT EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL NOW?

What's wrong with wanting to be accepted? Even straight nerds want acceptance.

You have 0 understanding of anything in existence.

>because straight writers view gays in animation as some kind of diversity trophy
Fucking thank you. You guys are doing this to themselves.

You don't become accepted by bothing people or invading their hobby.

>hobby

By that logic, I can say, for example, straight couples are "invading" Overwatch because Widow had a husband before becoming a sniper.

>THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS MAN
>YOU HAVE BE WOKE AND WHINE ABOUT SJWS 24/7

>"invading their hobby"

>What's wrong with wanting to be accepted?
Nothing but dont be obnoxious about it. The same shit you find in these threads with obtuse dumbasses saying shit like "i hate women and gays and only want what i like and everyone else can shoot themselves im a white male durrr" kinds of caricature responses is the same mindset those writers have fairly often as evident by their social media. Hell, the person on the new powerpuff girls said on her twitter that if women want to be heard they should shoot people since it works for white guys.

see

Yup.

>invading
Seeing non-straights threatens you that much, huh?

>I CAN'T GET AN ERECTION MAN
>DO YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND SOME CHEAP BONER PILLS THAT ACTUALLY WORK?
>I'M TOO POOR FOR VIAGRA MAAAAAN

When stuff trying to appeal to me is weaponized into political statements to tell me what to think rather than trying to appeal to me I get upset, yes.

Anime has it right. Gayshit for gay people in their gay shows, loud and proud and separate from anything else. Fappable lesbians will sneak into other shows but that's to excite not to preach.

Straight is the default.

>gays should only exist in things I don't watch unless it exists to get me off

I think actually more people are bi than straight, because art favors symmetry and you know your own body better. They just don't say it on census forms because they're paranoid of discrimination.

watching you use your brain, it seems painful

Brown people are biologically the default humans, yet look how much butthurt they cause and get called forced

It's more noticeable in western cartoons as nips don't use media for the basis of their entire personality, political beliefs, and worth as a person and so expect cartoons to cater to them specifically
You see Western fans going "whoa this character has to reflect the struggles of an entire minority group in a flawless way or else the creators are DEMONS from HELL", meanwhile Japanese people only care if their waifu has been exhaled on by another man/husbando has been nutted on by another man

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Yes, actually. That's an excellent summary. I would expect gays to want hetero propoganda in their content either. Japan has yuri and yaoi content readily available, rather than pushing gay romances a season in after already hooking you.

Stand by your audience. If you want a gay audience, go for them.

Gay characters in anime typically have more to them than "they're gay".

West
>This is Gay Susan, who is Gay. Her main character trait is that she is Gay. She hates the homophobic patriarchy and enjoys being Gay with a host of one shot unnamed background characters.
Japs
>This is Sakura. She is a classmate of Honda and her main character trait is that she teases Honda about his grades but has his back. She hates liquorice and enjoys spending time collecting butterflies with her girlfriend.

Exceptions as always, like pic related from Mission Hill.

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>they're paranoid of discrimination
oh shut the fuck up

Not in white countries.

And what's wrong with a gay character being flaming, hating homophobes, or having multiple GFs?

There isn't, just make it clear up front it's going to be that kind of show and don't expect me to watch/fund/like it.

Doesn't matter since brown people existed first, whites are a mutation

>what's wrong with a gay character [...] hating homophobes
nothing if they're called out for it and it isnt some forced shitty message like the west does

That has nothing to do with marketing to a general audience and trying to create a base to appeal to.

>called out on hating those who hate you

Gayness in anime is ten times more badass and cool because the characters are more attractive.
Free!, Yu-Gi-Oh GX, Naruto, Hetalia, etc.
In cartoons the gayness is boring, mundane, and lacks that spark. It plays it too safe.

>implying ruby and sapphire are unattractive
get on jeapardy and lose to james holzhauer

A general audience would mostly be non-whites though

Not wanting you forced into their media is not the same as hating you.

I don't want children's fart jokes in my adult movies to make it have a "bigger appeal"

who the hell was even straight in hetalia

Not in the country of origin. If you're making a global movie like Transformers, expect love and hate in your soulless project.

Pokemon is an anime.

>if you dont like people being gay that means you HATE the gays personally
Most of the time it isnt even an issue if they aren't shoving it in your face and basically asking for it to the extent even other gays might be annoyed. The sad thing is being homophobic can be anything from hating gays extremely to just not wanting one specific instance of a gay character to be a thing. Or even less.

Then why do white men cry about being hated when certain media tries to have less of them?

why don't you like people being gay? what should i do about it? should i get shocked by penceachu or something or just remain chaste forever?

And those are the people that tend to write gay relationships

>points out the diversity trophy issue
>STILL loops around to pin it on straight people

>why don't you like people being gay?
Can you not even understand general discussion or hypotheticals you fucking cunt?

Because
1. It isn't just less of us, it's an active outspoken hatred against us, in many instances
2. Nobody cares about new IPs, you are taking old IPs like Twilight Zone and Star Wars

>Anime directed at adults have gay shit
Nobody care (Rightfully so)
>Cartoon aim at childrens have gay shit
Every's pissed (Rightfully so)

I'll add that fags should be hang to trees, just like in grand papa's time, I want a cartoon for childrens promoting that one day.

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quiz off you quizface, what if someone said that straight relationships should only be for reproduction and deviators should be shot on sight?

Sounds like they'd get stomped by 97% of humanity real quick.

There's plenty of outspoken hatred against LGBT, much more than there is for white guys. AFAIK white guys have never gotten assaulted or killed just for being white guys.

i think most people are bi anyway. there are a lot of attractive men and women in the world, how could you not like at least one of each kind? Vanna White and James Holzhauer are some game show examples, and if you don't find them attractive, you'd at least date either for their money.

I didn't ask what a waifufag was user, I asked your definition. Or that user's definition.

On the off chance you're actually this stupid and not just trolling:

1) Anime gay shit involves attractive characters, not hideous tumblr gendergolems.

2) Anime gay characters are introduced as gay. They don't take established straight characters and randomly make them gay out of nowhere like western shit does.

You'd be projecting.

Ok. That has nothing to do with hatred white people face.

I kinda get what you're saying but you're wrong. I can understand how girls and gays can find a man attractive but that doesn't mean I find him attractive. I think?

>Anime gay characters are introduced as gay
You don't watch much anime or read much manga if you actually believe this

so you're saying you wouldn't fuck holzhauer in his million dollar ass for a cut of the jeopardy prize?

You know what a guy crush is right? Most women seem to have bi in them since they're way more open to experimenting with female friends than guys are that aren't actually gay.

Zimbabwe and South Africa would be the extreme examples of that. Along with people saying that "It doesn't count. They deserved it for their ancestors doing the same to the blacks".

>i think most people are bi anyway.
You're wrong.

That's an attraction to money, not man ass.

A pornstar might fuck a horse for a bunch of money but that doesn't mean he or she is in bestiality. You feel me?

So gays being actually hated and people being against them being in media isn't real hatred, but when it's done to whites it is?

the holz is so willowy you wouldn't even care from the back

the types that would do that usually are, most normies think it's 'cruelty' and wouldn't do it for infinity dollars

as for me, i'd do it for $-5

Sorry, I meant in countries that aren't literal shitholes dominated by 60 IQ nignogs.

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>He doesn't know about Islam, zealots and most society in asia.
>97% of humanity
I like how fags and fags enabler have literaly no fucking grasp on reality.

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That's not what I said. Real hatred for one party doesn't negate/minimize hatred for another.

>white guys have never gotten assaulted or killed just for being white guys.
That guy that was fucked up on a facebook livestream i think in colorado or somewhere else with a c

Read again.

You don't normalize offbeat people by forcing them into entertainment for normal people. Let them have their own shit and just stop sperging out.

only straight people care about diversity

Entertainment is commonly meant to be about offbeat people, standout protagonists, and quirky ensemble casts.

Yea because Star Vs and Steven Universe and Lumberjanes and the new She-ra were made by straight white men.

It's also meant to delight and entertain an audience. Generally not to preach to them.

Too bad here in the west you can't have comedy at the expense of gays because its demeaning and homophobic, but the comedy can be at the expense of anyone else.

There are a ton of psuedo-hipster memelords who feel the need to deride “western animation” just to prove how much they are to manga. They are faggots

I don't support expensive comedy anyway. I prefer wordplay, misinterpretations (like you get the shit beaten out of you if you owe Jeopardy money on the simpletons) of ordinary stuff, and wrong-answer humor.

Chicago.
Disabled white boy was kinapped and torturred over 3 days by 4 black youths with livestreaming on FB (which led to their arrest).
They were found guilty and sentences between them ranged from 8 years imprisonment to 200 hours community service.

>I don't support it
Just say you don't like it, it seems slightly less whiny.

That's great! It starts with darker people being accepted out of fear.

>reads the last line

That's not great...

>Chicago.
Damn thanks, it was on the tip of my tongue. That's the one.

okay american chavez is very uniquely terrible in every way, it doesn't represent the majority of media.

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I don’t like gay shit in anime either.

This happens because a shitload of people in the west have difficulty in identifying what is the targeted audience of Japanese cartoons.

I've seen quite a few anime aimed at children talk about more serious and/or romantic themes and have gay characters with no problem at all.

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>I don't watch anime
It shows.

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It's in the delivery you mongus, they have genres and subgenres, each have their own tropes and expectations.
When someone goes into a magical girl show they expect there to be lesbians in it, because of course there's always gonna be that dyke in the cast, for example.
It isn't put on a pedestal, it's just fucking there and the creators let the audience think what they want about it rather than forcing only one answer down your throat.
Not only that but there's entire genres dedicated to gay shit and it tells it to you outright so you can mosey along if you don't want that.
NOT ONLY THAT but the gay shit is either comical or completely sexual for sexual's sake and never done by disgusting looking goblinos, the audience wants hot dude on dude/ hot chick on chick action and they deliver, no stress, no judgement, and especially no politics.
Cut to western shit and you don't fucking know if you're getting gay shit or not, it's just suddenly there to pat themselves on the back.
Korra? Boom sudden gayshit at the end and the sequel comics are all about that gayshit now.
Voltron? Boom LGBT shit midway.
SU at least you can see the degeneracy immediately.
And why do these shows do this? Political agendas, to be taunted as paragons of virtue and progress.
Nothing more than propaganda that they force you to accept rather than entertainment to cater to a niche.
Stop being retarded, you fucking know that the reasons and for whom anime does this is completely the opposite of western animation.

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>touting it as something that is morally superior
Okay, now point to me where this happens in the West.

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wats dis

Damn man, if only there was some way to find out.
Some simple, obvious way.

Because anime oversaturated it's gay stuff back in the 80's and 90's so now people are used to it. The same way people are used to sex jokes in kids cartoons in France, but are surprised when it happens in America.