Why are heroes who refuse to kill, even in the most dire of circumstances, so annoying...

Why are heroes who refuse to kill, even in the most dire of circumstances, so annoying? Even an average joe is allowed to defend himself so why can't heroes?

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Batman is a vigilante, not a hero.

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>why can't heroes?
because the big two will never kill off their properties
stop reading capeshit

what's up with heroes not wanting to do anything permanent against the joker and even finding ways to save them?

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Considering all the retarded 'Hurrr Batman rich man who white and have butler...privilege durrrr...demonize mentally ill and deformed pepil!!1! somethignsomething Capitalism" threads we put up with, and about other heroes, how do you think they'd react if the heroes all went around killing people?

They put their morality over lives, I can get it, but maybe that’s what bugs you

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Because they take it too far. If all you do is stop muggers, robbers, and litterbugs then it makes sense. When you deal with mass murders, mass rapists, and mad men that would rain anthrax laced confetti then it seems worse to let them live unless they have a goal you sorta agree with.

The real problem is the legal system in cape comics, they just either can’t execute them or keep them in prison,

The strictly no killing rule only works for one bat character, and only because of her weirdly wired brain. Killing someone or seeing them die impresses on her so hard it's like going through the dying process herself.

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thats why a hero was needed to begin with, because the law wasnt enough.

True, honestly Joker, Ivy, Cobblepot all should have been offed years ago, Batman’s just not comfortable with it

It works for Bruce as well because he's a fucking crazy person with thanatophobia as well as hang ups about his parents.
Bruce's no killing rule works best as less a moral stance and more a character flaw.

Namor seem like the kind of person who would sell his unborn child for the prosperity of his people.

Because you're autistic for worrying about something so minor and pointless

This guy has it.

If you're a Batman or street level dude, killing common criminals will eventually get the cops on *your* ass. I mean, look at the Punisher; he's pretty much just as wanted as Drug lords and masterminds behind gun smuggling even though he is making the world a better place without his victims. It's better to turn them over to the police alive.

The Joker would by rights have been killed dead by a cop or a friend/family member of his many victims.
Batman doesn't need to do shit about him other than throw his ass in jail--the only think keeping Joker alive is a meta-fallacy of serialized storytelling in Cape comics.

Similarly, Spider-Man should have let Carnage fucking *die* after the first time he got out and started slaughtering people again, but giving him a pass there, most of his rogues are in essence robbers or crime lords. Let them face justice.

This, desu.

Keep in mind that Bruce broke the law only to ensure the law was enforced. He would beat up the mob to cripple their operations and ensure they faced due process, not just go into Falcone's bedroom and light up the place.

Right, can’t Doctor Fate freeze him in time for eternity ?

I disagree. His no guns rule makes sense, but he's nuts so why would he care about killing?

Heroes aren't average joes

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Because he's nuts BECAUSE of killing.

Yeah, but his parents got killed in a dark alley.

Does he also hate dark alleys?

Why do you think he's always on rooftops?

Because the entire "never kill, ever" was a byproduct of censorship from the Comics Code, which was not only an incarnation of the hypocritical morality of the post-war era, but because a lot of future creators read those comics and internalized it in a way that they would later go on to come up with convoluted, asinine justifications for it in the context of the fiction, because they're unable to distinguish between compromises that were made on the part of the Silver Age creators to keep the business running and the kind of storytelling decisions that they would have made if they were allowed to do what they want.

Furthermore, because many of those same creators are developmentally stunted, they try to make the comics as edgy as possible to seem "mature" while also adhering to the tropes that were established when the books were unambiguously aimed primarily at children, creating a fucked up kind of juxtaposition where the entire premise basically collapses

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I'm not buying it.

But seriously, Batman has major issues with death because his parents died in front of him when he was 8 isn't really all that far fetched and writers have gone out of their way to make Bruce connect the tiniest thing to his parents, death itself isn't a stretch.

If a hero has a memorable rogues gallery you don't want to kill them off - at least not in an ongoing series like comics or a tv show (notice how movies are more willing to kill off villains) A good writer can work around it. Though with Batman and Joker its rough since most people want Joker stories in their Batman media but since he's existed so long now Joker's crimes just get worse and worse so it's harder to justify keeping him alive.

To fuck Selina.