Is it just me, or have lairs fallen out of fashion? Just seems like most heroes don't have cool houses anymore.
What are your favorite hero lairs?
ITT: Hero Headquarters
David Martinez
Camden Mitchell
Bump.
Nicholas Price
Daniel Sullivan
I like how the lunar Watchtower has a reception area.
Has Rebirth done one of these keys for the current Watchtower?
Grayson Sanders
Wonderdome sucked.
Benjamin Howard
How so?
Justin Cruz
Aw come on... can't we get BEYOND Wonderdome?
Colton Allen
The carrier as used by the authority it was almost a character of its own
Angel Perez
If I were anything resembling a superhero, and had the income to build a base/lair, I'd retrofit and fortify a nondescript building that already exists. It's easier to keep something secret if it's inconspicuous.
Andrew Thompson
Most superhero movies don't have enough time to have the characters just hanging out in their headquarters. Let's us the MCU for example
>Avengers Tower
Only used in AoU
>New Avengers Facility
This one got a bit of screen time in AoU, Ant-Man, and Civil War but the most it ever got in one movie was Endgame where it was destroyed. Also is it just me or did its design change every movie?
Isaiah Reed
>Most superhero movies don't have enough time to have the characters just hanging out in their headquarters.
The comics don't have that excuse though. Especially when everything is decompressed to fuck.
I'd much prefer to see characters doing stuff in their base than yet another dull power levels fight scene. At least seeing heroes chilling at home has character to it.
Adam Howard
Mobile headquarters are fun, yeah. Requires more active maintenance, but still highly useful. Usually a ship, equipped with all manner of gadgets and weapons.
Gabriel Watson
Jaxson Gray
Part of the reason lairs stopped being a thing is that artists are lazy retards, and they don't like having to draw anything that isn't the same copy-paste female and male models.
Zachary Russell
WW has her own frotress of solitude? news to me.
Does she still use it? where is it?
Jayden Murphy
check this
Liam Richardson
Camden Morgan
Thomas Brown
It was from Eric Luke's run, and got written out during Rucka's first run. I wish it was still a thing, cause it's fucking awesome.
Jonathan Walker
Because we don’t need another hero. We don’t need another way home.
Henry Gonzalez
>Especially when everything is decompressed to fuck.
That actually is the excuse.
When you take 10 pages for one scene and multiple issues to tell what should be one single act, you don't have a lot of space for things that are inconsequential to the main plot. Which is why most character development is done through narration boxes during action sequences now.
Kayden Wright
>lairs went away because artists are lazy and don't want to copy/paste the same backgrounds and settings with total justification in doing so
How the fuck would anyone not notice Matt owns a 4 story townhouse or that 1/3 of its interior was inaccessible?
It was stupid and creepy as hell, what with its hall of statues dedicated to how badly WW wanted to fuck Superman, and raised a lot of questions about why Diana didn't actively involve the sentient, invisible, shapeshifting, alien fortress that followed her around in crimefighting.
Matthew Flores
Came across this recently, which seems to fit with the thread.
Xavier Jackson
The Trinity shipping garbage isn't an absolutely necessary part of Wonder Woman's floating fortress, you fucking retard. I hate that shit too, but don't be an idiot. If the Dome were ever to come back, that part would of course be removed.
>raised a lot of questions about why Diana didn't actively involve the sentient, invisible, shapeshifting, alien fortress that followed her around in crimefighting.
She did though. She just didn't bring it along on every mission because a) not every mission needs it, and b) it's a might trigger happy.
Henry Nelson
Just set the thing to stun and park it above any city, it can even function as a jail. Alien invasion? Giant, floating, invisible fortress. Supervillain teamup? Giant, floating, invisible, fortress. Gods are getting uppity again? Giant, floating, invisible fortress. It's the same problem as the Superman Robots. Personally, if forced to bring back the Wonderdome, I'd make it more akin to a house existing in a pocket dimension that can be accessed by Diana; I think something like that would fit her personality far better than anything ostentatious.
James Martinez
>set it to stun
See, that's more of a problem with superheroes in general. There is absolutely no good reason why capes and cops alike don't carry around phasers or a similar device. The tech level is there, they could just do it. But, then there's little to no narrative reason for the superpowers. ... So i guess I'm kinda saying that I agree with you. Though it's invisible, so it's not exactly ostentatious.
In fact, not only should Diana use the Wonderdome all the time, but the Amazons should have a fleet of Invisible Jets with the Dome being a carrier vessel. But that would be be fun and allow the Amazons to actually do things, so we can't have that.
William Roberts
>Man. Who knew Old Man Wayne was such a Batman fanboy? Must have cost him several fortunes to get all this memorabilia
Jack Reyes
Decompression really needs to die already. I would kill for a good done in one series.
Zachary Gomez
I miss Avengers Mansion so much
Oliver Cooper
Just have a nice little getaway on Paradise Island. I think she had her own space during that short period between the middle of Jimenez's run and the beginning of Rucka's where dome turned itself into the entire island of Themyscira.
Having a hall of memorabilia and stuff is all well and good but I feel she'd prefer a more quaint, cozy space. Case in point: her room in JLA. Classy, small. I totally wanna base my apartment on this
Elijah Diaz
Something at least. See, Diana doesn't really have an iconic headquarters. Clark has the fortress, Bruce as the cave, and the closest thing Diana has is the island, but editors are always forcing it and the Amazons into limbo, so she doesn't get to actually go there as often.
And that's really frustrating, because there's no good reason for this whatsoever. There are so many more stories that can be told with Themiscyra than without. Its her homeland, the nation she represents, and yet it almost seems like nobody is allowed to explore it.
I really hope Wilson is bringing it back for good, cause I'm so tired of this shoving it into some other dimension shit.
Michael Cruz
Alfred has to dust everything in there every week.
Ryan Hernandez
We're not really seeing the big resurgence of interest in building her mythos I was hoping for with the success of the movie, but I still have hope. We have Earth One, Amazon Historia, and that teen Diana book to look forward to. Still need to catch up on the last two months of Wilson.
Nolan Lewis
>Earth One
The EO Amazons are fucking great, with their Golden Age tech, kangas, and actual exploration of their society and attitudes. I especially love the use of orgone energy weapons that disable targets by giving them an orgasm.
By the way, does that mean in the DCU, Reich discovered the Violet Light of Love?
Dominic Davis
If so, that'd certainly be the best use of the GL mythos in like 20 years.
Sebastian Long
>4 story townhouse
Matt is rich, not millionaire but rich enough for it to be plausible
>or that 1/3 of its interior was inaccessible
who is gonna know other than his friends or girlfriends?
Aiden Brown
Not gonna lie, glad they got rid of Aphrodite's Law. It never really made sense and only served as an arbitrary inconvenience.
Also wow, when was the last time Donna interacted with her mom and was acknowledged as a princess?
Cameron Baker
>>with her mom
>Donna
>still being allowed to have any relation with the WW mythos in any way, shape or form
LOL!
I think they could reinterpret the law in some way, like making it a self-imposed thing where some Amazons are more conservative and fearful and vehemently opposed to men being allowed, while the majority are more liberal and in favor of some interaction with man's world, like that arc of Perez's run where the one Amazon senator was really butthurt about going to man's world and ends up ironically being killed by guards who mistake her for a Bana-Mighdall terrorist
Alexander Walker
Supergirl had one post-FP, but it got destroyed shortly after it's introduction and now she shares the Fortress with Clark.
Cooper Moore
>tfw we will never have a Diana/Donna team up book were they go on comfy sisterly adventures
DC just hates fun.
And yeah, it's kind of always come across like the majority are discontent with the stagnation of isolation. Hard to blame them, since Paradise is nice, but there's only so much to do. Doom's Doorway needs guarding and all, but they're also supposed to be spreading peace and love to the rest of the world. Be nice if they could, y'know, do that for once.
Caleb Nguyen
Is there any good reason why she needs an iconic headquarters beyond, "other superheroes have them?"
You kinda have to keep in mind that the writers don't really know what's going on with the film and there is going to be expectations that corporate is going to force changes to the book to match the film.
Camden Young
I think your main problem is that Donna was created wholecloth to cover a writing mistake in Teen Titans and as such all her history, relationships, and development comes from outside the WW book. For Diana as a character, Donna is unimportant and incidental, and for Donna as a character, Diana is unimportant and incidental. Donna is first and foremost a TT character, and unless the TT office is willing to relinquish control she is going to remain as such. Hell, her Nu52 debut immediately hit a continuity snarl because the WW version and the Titans version were completely irreconcilable.
Also, you think there are any Amazons whose response to millennia of idle comfort on a pastoral island is to go full /d/eviant?
Justin Wood
Jimenez did a lot to make the characters work together, and TT doesn't seem to really have any interest in using her.
>spoiler
Yes
Jack Flores
Yes, because who would ever notice something on the roof of a four-story building in Manhattan?
Levi Mitchell
ive always been partial to the hall of justice and the lunar watchtower from the late 90s JLA.
i wish the JLA had a hq modeled after the acropolis though
Noah Clark
That's the Thunderdome not the Wonderdome.
Nathan Smith
Nah, that's just a sly reference to masturbation and lesbianism. I'm talking full on, "everyone acts weird around you after they find your porn stash."
Josiah Robinson
I mean, this is the society that has a yearly tribute to Artemis where some women dress up as deer and are hunted and bound by the other women. There's at least some hedonistic orgies and bondage parties going on.
Parker Price
I think there is a WW villain to be made from the concept of someone who has responded to centuries of ennui with increasing amounts of depravity.
Colton Nguyen
They're in a Hall of Justice now. It's been featured throughout the current run but I haven't seen a schematic type depiction.
Justin Thomas
DC doesn't do cool stuff like this anymore. I miss the old Secret Files with schematics, maps, character profiles, timelines... pure comic kino.
Jason Davis
Nathaniel Cook
Even back in the 80s you would have to be pretty fucking rich to own an entire building in the Upper East Side of Manhattan
Colton Williams
>Is there any good reason why she needs an iconic headquarters beyond, "other superheroes have them?"
That basically is the major reason. Unique and recognizable elements are a huge factor in establishing a character/series place in the popular consciousness. Also, it's cool.