So, did they inadvertently create the Cancerverse with the 2014 timeline? Sure...

So, did they inadvertently create the Cancerverse with the 2014 timeline? Sure, taking away the power stone means Ronan can't do his assault on Xandar, and Thanos' entire army is destroyed in that timeline, but nobody was there to stop Ego, especially with no GOTG forming. So Ego would likely get Quill in 2014, take over the universe, and probably still keep growing?

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How would he find out about Quill?

What part about "Can't change the past" do you not understand by now?

I mean, they did create an alt universe.
Hmmm, good point I guess?

Power stone gets returned and Ronan does the same thing. Ronan was going against Thanos any way so him not being there doesn't stop the Guardians from forming

Ah, but without 2014 Nebula or 2014 Gamora, the Knowhere Fight would probably go differently.

>they did create an alt universe.
Yes, but it doesn't matter an ounce.

I feel like this si the start of Secret Wars.

IMO, the MCU should stop now

Should, won't.

Nah, they replaced the stones which prevents the alt universe from happening.

did they also replace the Thanos of that universe?

putting the stones back triggers a sort of rewind of everything that happened as a result of the stone being taken out of their native universes.

No one ever said that. The Ancient One said she wanted hers back so that they'd have it as a weapon against Dormammu.

This. Creating an alternate universe is unavoidable when time traveling. Removing ir replacing the stones has no effect on that.

They couldn't prevent all of them; at the very least, there's an extra timeline because of Loki running off with the Tesseract.

That's not how it works.

Also even though Cap returned the blue stone back to the 70s Loki still stole it in 2012.

I didn't get the time travel, first Banner says they need to interact as little as possible with the past. But then Loki scaped with the cube, and Thanos, Nebula and everyone else got killed. Hell Nebula killed her past self, how fucked up is the space time continuum now?

It's clear bait for the What If series

That is how it worked in Endgame. They borrowed the stones from the past, temporarily create a new timeline but upon returning to the past and putting the stones back where they came from it deleted that branching timeline. It was even explained with a visual model. There are completely fucked timelines though, just not the one OP mentioned. You've got a 2014 timeline without a Thanos, Nebular, or Gamora and there's a 2012 where Loki escapes. There may be another but there's no branches from removing the stones.

I feel like the biggest timeline everyone is forgetting about is when thor TAKES MJOLNIR RIGHT BEFORE HE FIGHTS THE DARK ELVES

also loki escapes also red skull is left to his own devices, also quill is left unconcious in a cave with thanos/ronan around. maybe dies plus gamora and nebula arnet around so the guardians dont form in that timeline.

BUT ALSO the mind stone is taken away from hydra, and i dont think any avenger would give it back to hydra, so maybe quick silver, scarlett witch, and most importanly VISION are never created, maybe leading to a comic Age of Ultron time line...

litterally the only stone that didnt create a fuck up was the time stone. MAYBE the soul stone but that one is shrouded in mystery as it is

heres the thing guys:

ancient one said they can take the stone, but must have it returned the MOMENT they toook it. this doesnt reset the timeline, it just throretically has no effect because the ancient one can be without the stone for litteraly one second and be alright.
however
when stuff such as - loki escaping, cap living with peggy, thor taking a hammer, removing gamora etc etc - happens, then that itslef creates a different timeline with a hole shit load of consequences.

I fell this will lead to the intervention of some cool characters:
kang? then the F4?

maybe what if stories?

lmk what yall think

But couldn't Cap just travel to the second after fat Thor steals his own hammer and just toss it at Thor's feet from that time?

When only Cap went back, he took Mjolnir with him, most definitely to return it to Thor.

I think Banner just didn't want the ripple effect to fuck them in the ass, like it did when an Alt-Timeline Thanos showed up.

>During the final fight against Thanos alt-timeline versions of previous MCU villains keep showing up to try and take the Gauntlet for themselves

Because creating a bunch of doomed alt timelines in your bid to save your own timeline is, at best, ethically irresponsible, and at worst, as evil as anything Thanos did with the stones. That was the whole point of the discussion with The Ancient One. The problem with taking the time stone and not returning it isn't that it's some time paradox shit, it's just that you create an alternate timeline where Strange doesn't have the time stone and thus can't stop Dormammu from fucking the entire universe up.

That seems to be the Crux of the argument. During the conversation between her and Banner, and later Banner and Cap, they talk about snipping branches and show timelines merging. The question is, and is in no way answered during the film, are alternate timelines only created by fucking with the stones, as the Ancient One said how the stones affect the flow of time, or do the deaths and other manipulations create other timelines too and the Ancient One merely thought the avengers wouldnt do anything but borrow the stones for what appears to be no time at all

Who's to say Cap wasn't already an old man in their timeline?

Yes, especially considering 2014 Thanos and his 2014 army weren't there either.

IMO, MCU is over now. Well, maybe Guardians of the Galaxy 3 will still count.

Creating an alternate universe is unavoidable because alternate universes already exist based on choices and events that take place. The reason why the time stone can be used look at every possible outcome is because all those outcomes already exist simultaneously.

Hard to tell. Ego really got interested in Quill after learning he survived touching the Power Stone and his plan wouldn't work without Quill. Xandar is probably dead but overall it may be the happiest possible timeline since the Snap never happened.

No. Replacing the Infinity Stones back into their respectful timelines will prevent the the universe within those timeline from collapsing. The Infinity Stones serves a cosmic function for the universe. If 1 goes missing for too long, it will start to collapse.

>The Infinity Stones serves a cosmic function for the universe. If 1 goes missing for too long, it will start to collapse.

oh boy.

Bad news for the prime earth of this dimension then, the stones have all been destroyed by Thanos for 5 years now.

>thor taking a hammer

I have to wonder what Past Thor was thinking the moment his hammer just decided to fly off on its own.

Its possible they'll just reform, if they're so integral to the universe.

The timeline in danger is the main one, thanks to Thanos destroying the gems
the put the stones back to the alternative one

Wrong

technically he just reduced them to atoms and scattered them, they still *exist* in the "matter and energy can never be truly destroyed" sense, they're just impossible to retrieve again. so I don't think it would have the same effect as outright pulling the stone from the timeline and taking it to another universe altogether.