Was it even possible to write this movie without time travel?

Was it even possible to write this movie without time travel?

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Yes.
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No.
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Maybe.
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No but you also keep Thanos alive and have him realize his young self is an even greater threat and he helps the heroes from stop young him from completing 100%genocide

Why would Young Thanos want to do that?

Why you fuckers are so bent on redeeming Thanos? They made a point that he was a fucking psychopath.

Keep Thanos alive and with the stones

but then it becomes impossible to beat him with all the stones

>Why you fuckers are so bent on redeeming Thanos?

Terminator 2 syndrome.

>Thanos' snap delete himself
>Leaves behind only his gauntlet
>Gauntlet like in the comics, is at half power and has no power to unsnap
>They have to find a way to bring everyone back
>The Soul Stone creates an individual world for everyone, meaning other movies like spider-man far from home at this time can happen no problem within the canon

>>Gauntlet like in the comics, is at half power and has no power to unsnap
How else does Avengers Endgame or IW deviate from the comics? Did iron man die in the comics too?

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Yeah, keep the stones around, come up with some way to get the Gauntlet off of him.

When Thanos said
> They're reduced to atoms
I was totally expecting them to
Travel to the quantum realm and reassemble the stones atom by atom

That way, you could still have Time Travel Shenanigans and Fanservice moments , but it would be more of a biproduct of having to spend so much time In the quantum realm as opposed to the directive of the characters

That's how I'd do it, anyway.

It deviates a fuckton, from the comics moviefag. Like, the avengers aren't even a fucking thing in the original infinity war run until like the last 3 issues, the rest is Adam Borelock attempting to not be boring for 6 issues, while Thanos gets cucked by Death.

Yeah. Leave everyone dusted.

In the comics, the Infinty Stone saga is almost completely different.

>The Story begins with Thanos completing the gauntlet and performing the snap

>The Avengers themselves are mere bit players. The biggest thing they do is distract Thanos while Adam Warlock and Silver Surfer carry out their master plan

>The whole thing ends when everyone has fought, everyone has lost against Thanos, Adam Warlock gets the gauntlet at one point but fucks up, and Thanos only loses because he let his guard down around Nebula, who earlier in the story Thanos put into a I-have-no-mouth-and-I-must-scream situation, very nearly (but not quite) completely incapacitating her. She swipes the gauntlet and banishes Thanos's soul to drift in space forever.
Later, we learn that Adam Warlock was
>only using 10% of my power
and lost on purpose specifically so he would let down his guard around Nebula, because he could see into Thanos's soul and saw that Thanos deemed himself unworthy of wielding the gauntlet, and he only needed the outward justification for self-sabotage.

It was pretty epic for its time, but upon retrospect?

It's kinda dumb.

No. You'd have to come up with a different asspull to reverse the damage of Infinity War. Time shenanigans were on the table the second that they decided that Dr. Strange had the time stone.

Yeah, upon trying to destroy the stones Thanos learns that new ones will take their place, so it's a race to collect all the stones again.

>Adam Warlock gets the gauntlet at one point but [purposefully ] fucks up

God that's stupid.

>God that's stupid.

So is Adam Warlock.

Adam Warlock is literally Marvels Mary Sue. He appears in EVERY major event, has met the One Above All, along with all the celestials and the living tribunal (who he was on), and has fought Thanos, Galactus, and every other major cosmic universe ending big bad effortlessly.

GOD I FUCKING HATE ADAM WARLOCK

What? That makes no sense. Thanos is... I dunno, logical sadistic/deranged? Only way I know how to put it. If anything I think they may have brought him back to earth and imprisoned him and any number of conversations would have led to him just calmly saying what’s done is done, possibly a convo asking if the avengers don’t see the difference the snap made. Resources, clean water, etc.

Wasn't there a fan theory that the soul stone absorved those whom Thanos snaped? You just need this, make him unable to destroy the Infinity Gem and create a shenanigan for him to be/feel unworthy of the glaunted (like in the comics).

Thank god there are other reasonable people here who understand what a fucking dumb character Adam Warlock is.
I hope Gunn still doesn't have him in GotG3 just so we can hear his dumbass fans whine about it like they did for Infinity War & Endgame.

He's gonna be in GOTG 3 But he's going to be a more well rounded character that isn't OP at every fucking turn. Considering both Hulk and Thor in the comics range from "Pussy Bitches to Literal world enders" I can see Warlock not being stupidly OP like he is in the comics

yeah
just make it so thanos doesn't destroy the infinity stone after he snap daddies half the universe

It would take a lot of clever writing but I would want to have them try to go back in time several times but fail somehow, until the very end when they realize its better to let things be as they happened and let Thanos live his last days alone while the universe moves on.

I heard rumors that he is some OP chad dudebro that kinda challenges Quill but that might be redundant after Thor joins the Guardians

Honestly, cut out all the "WE NEED TO MOVE ON" parts of the movie, and give me more time shenanigans This movie would have been 10/10 had they failed and had to redo the entire thing over and over again and theres a quick 30 minute montage of them failing every time until Dr Strange holds up 1 finger and they succeed, to make you think that out of 4 million, even when they thought they would win they would still lose. Instead of being the literal 1 in 4 million odd right off the bat.

>tfw after like the fourth time everyone just gets bored and starts shaking their head and walking back bored as fuck to try again
That would have been kino

1. Infinity stones are destroyed and Thanos dead.
2. Movie about scouring the cosmos for an alternative power source to the stones, with various characters splitting up into groups.
3. Several characters like Steve, Tony, and Thor reminisce and multiple arcs come to their conclusion, with several characters sacrificing themselves as a post-snap universe seems to be more treacherous than ever.
4. Captain Taxi reunites with Tony and Nebula looking for a stone in Kree space, but is forced to abandon them to deal with an escalating conflict between the Kree vanguard and another unnamed faction.
5. Movie ends with the surviving heroes reconvening some time later at Thanos's Garden, preparing to undo the snap through a reconstructed gauntlet.
6. An echo of Thanos begins to manifest as the realms between life and death begin to weaken, and a final boss fight ensues as he summons remnants of the past to fight the Avengers, including Crossbones, Obedias, Ego, etc. etc.
7. The gauntlet's circuitry is damaged and Tony elects to reroute the power through his power source, killing him as he frantically tries to fix the mass death, not just Thanos's snap.
9. Various characters begin to resurrect, but it takes time. Steve ends up sacrificing his life to allow Bucky enough time to revive.
10. Thor ends up Supercharging the Gauntlet, drawing all of his strength to see the revival process complete, which helps but also causes Thor to collapse and fall into the cosmos with his status unknown.
11. The gauntlet fractures and the process ends without being fully complete. Thanos fades, with his victory largely undone and many of MCU heroes perishing to allow that happen. A sizable portion of the universe remains dead
12. Epilogue:
1. A resurrected Gamora finds Thrall drifting through space, the two unsure where to go from there. GotG3 tease.
2. Bucky and Falcon honor Captain's memory and legacy, laying his SHIED down to rest before Bucky pauses and picks it back up.

You can have Thanos hiding the stones and the heroes going on a journey to collect them

A reverse Infinity War in a way

I mean having a third chad challenge the constantly undermined Quill and thicc Lebowski Thor will probably be the impetus for them to see eye-to-eye and connect as brothers instead of challenging one another for leadership.

Yes
Thanos said he reduced the stones to an atom
They could use the quantum realm to search for the stones

Wow user. That sounds like utter shit

I'll honestly be surprised if Gunn doesn't write off Thor offscreen.

Largely.
Some bits wouldn't have worked without it, or at the very least would have needed to be reworked in order have them happen without it.

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Isn't this just that shitty movie with John Cena?

Considering how childish he has been in the past about characters he doesn't want to use (*cough*Nova*cough*) I wouldn't put it past him.
But, considering his recent firing/rehiring by Marvel, he may not have the level of creative control over the Cosmic side of things he used to have. Fiege may even strongarm him into keeping him around.

Ferdinand?

After Gunn's meltdown some time ago I wouldn't be surprised if Disney leashed him hard for any future employment.
Then again there are far more disastrous people employed by Disney that have been given free reign like TLJ/Lucasfilm, so who knows?

i have an idea
What if they fucked and sucked?

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The only way to write it without time travel is to do what the Infinity Gauntlet comics did:
>Thanos does not destroy the stones
>all the Avengers come for his ass
>Thanos kills them all
>cosmic beings turn up
>Thanos kills them too

But given that a straight adaptation of said comic might telegraph things too easily, what we got wasn't too bad. Plus it would be boring if it was just Thanos fighting everybody.

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Look, as petty as I am about Nova still not being properly introduced yet, there's nothing -- and I mean nothing -- Gunn could do that would screw the MCU up as much as Rian did SW.
He actually cares about the franchise, and Guardians probably would've been a shitshow had he not been helming it. He isn't just cashing in a paycheck on the promise he can fuck with the fans.
That said, I feel like he may understand the comedic and character potential that Lebowski being a Guardian now could hold.

Multiverse

Just like in spoiler