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Cute
>having to draw that stupid symbol on her shirt in every fucking frame
WHAT'S THE POINT??
Reminder this show will be better then Owl House and Infinity Train and the creators seem to have their team and mental state in check unlike the other two. This is the one to follow
But how deep is the LORE going to user? that is the important thing about children cartoons
It feels like she is a Harry Potter character who just fleed Hogwarts
The fact those characters are not anime design bootlegs like Owl House is already plus to me.
what a shitty voice acting
it's EPIC to reference your corporate tribes dude.
Ah, thanks to Star vs., we're now getting young girl characters that sound like late-twenty-somethings. The ASMR sound-splicing community is going to have a field day with Anne when it comes to getting people's rocks off.
Very cute. I need more cartoons of the "fantasy world with cute wholesome girl" genre.
ironic you say that since star came out on XD but this is going straight to disney channel..
>Have a series like Gravity Falls that is more generic and predictable then even something like Ducktales
>Put up a facade that it’s a dark mystery while making the most standard and safe show ever, knowing the audience won’t notice despite thinking they have high IQs
>OMG GOAT GOAT
Two minutes and I already hate that pink piece of shit.
>complaining that the character designs are TOO detailed
This show heavily features frogs and takes place in a big swamp land
I see that this is going to be a high-quality cartoon
>Amphibia
>Infinity Train
>The Owl House
>Villainous
2019-2020 are gonna be great years for cartoons.
Thanks. I hope this is good. The Owl House is guaranteed garbage since Cotugno's got her claws in it.
NO SHUT UP WE HATE EVERYTHING
Lore is what will get the kiddos interesting in reviving it years later when the nostalgia kicks in
That's the CalArts generation for you.
Unfortunately, I don't want to fuck the MC so I think I'll have to skip this.
>Villainous
I thought it was kill.
What’s happening with Infinity Train?
Holy fuck this animation looks bad. It doesn't seem to be flash shit but it might as well be with movement like that.
This one at least will be released.
>I don't want to fuck the MC
What are you, a fag?
a frog is fine too
>Stilted animation
>Ugly MC
>Inappropriate voice cast
Probably gonna have to pass unless the world is really good.
>The Owl House
>Good
What you think of as pain is only a shadow. Pain has a face. Allow me to show it to you.
>Not wanting /ll/ with a 14 year old girl and a 1000 year old witch
i love brown girls in lazy american modern cartoon style. we need more of them.
she's thai
so is this the next show that's gonna get SUBTERRANEAN SUMMER'D?
>/ll/
Cuck
the fucking state of this board
/u/fags are not welcome.
Looks more like a Latina than anything.
It's just so.... Boring.
I mean, maybe it's the first episode so it'll pick up, but everything about it felt like a first draft. The dialogue, jokes, character inaction, choice of acting for the drawings itself (Not the voice acting) was really boring to watch. It was the same feeling I get when I watch We Bare Bears.
Trips of truth. The fact the MC is a short-haired brown tomboy and that her dragon mascot probably doesn't talk only makes the show look more promising.
Even if you like that stuff, Cotugno will force other heavy-handed ideology in it which will suck all the joy out of it. Mark my words.
Still brown. Don't you know what LBFM stands for?
With Star ending, this is probably going to be their new it show, unless until Owl House airs
Maybe OK K.O. has spoiled me but the lack of any acting in the animation at all is fucking killing me. This is so sterile.
>acting in the animation
What?
You were spoiled by shit?
In live action, acting is a singular thing performed by one person. In animation it is performed by two people, the voice actor and the animator. The voice actor does an OK job, even if she sounds too old, but the animation does not convey the emotions properly.
Spoiled by constantly inventive and expressive animation.
>Spoiled by constantly inventive and expressive animation.
Having an inconsistent art style and making stupid faces every once in a while isn’t good animation
There is nothing wrong with flexibility if utilized properly. Maybe you're thinking of Steven Universe?
>but the animation does not convey the emotions properly.
Looked fine to me. My favorite part is when she gets grossed out by bugs when they’re in the log.
Well duh. It's pretty obvious that the owls are a metaphor for the long lasting ramifications caused by British Colonialism.
Why does she ruin everything?
She already has her own webcomic she doesn’t need to take over animated shows.
>OK K.O. has spoiled me
More like it deprogrammed your brain ability to watch good animation.
Here, a randomly picked, similar length video from OK K.O.: youtube.com
Turn the volume down and compare the movement of the Amphibia teaser to this. If you're afraid of Cherrypicking feel free to choose any other similar length unedited OK K.O. video.
Maybe you'll see the dynamic animation i'm talking about. I think flash cartoons might have caused you to equate stiffness with consistency.
But this literally flash tier.
I suppose you don't know what flash animation actually is? OK K.O is not puppet rigged.
>Maybe you'll see the dynamic animation i'm talking about. I think flash cartoons might have caused you to equate stiffness with consistency.
Wow, OK KO fans are retarded
Does that mean the male leads in these shows will sound like Funky Kong?
Not an argument? Puppet rig toons are essentially Hanna Barbera tier in terms of movement.
Here's a GIF
I learned to ignore Yea Forums's taste in cartoons after they forced to like TTG and She-Ra.
I agree that the animation acting sucks, but using OK KO as an example of a show that has spoiled you feels like you're in a drought for something good that you've latched on to shit just so you won't die.
Here's an example of good, fun, professional cartoon acting where every face and pose has a purpose while also being done by DisneyTVA, same studio making Amphibia.
She seems to be a thirsty self-inserting control freak like that. That scene of a turned-on Star asking to be pummelled by a grown-up woman was her self-inserting.
>Anne will transform from monster to hero
So she's a monster to start with?
What about it?
That's uh... good for flash animation?
Are standards today so low that OK K.O can be considered something that "spoils" anybody?
>Ryona
It's just a GIF.
Wander over Yonder isn't flash.
Isn’t it Toon Boom or something like that?
I like frogs. I'm a frog guy.
>Flash animation
It's Toonboom, and it's Toonboom puppet rigs at it's peak. Toonboom rigs can look shit times more better than the 2D hand drawn work because they can actually afford to do cartoony animation on a budget. OK KO looks horrible, entire thing looks like it was doodled on napkins with interns doing the clean up work.
And I know what OK KO is TRYING to do. It's trying to be like those old animes (such as vid related) where they do these simple drawings with choppy animation and that's part of the appeal. The problem is these nips actually know how to draw, so doing simple chibis is a walk in the park. Half the artists on OK KO would probably have a work out just drawing a Disney character on-model, so their simple shit just looks ugly, not charming.
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>Jerry Beck: Is this Flash animation? Someone said that it’s being
done on computer, but obviously you’re drawing it.
>CM: It’s done in Toon Boom Harmony, a program almost like a
mix between Flash and after-effects. With Flash you draw a character, clean it
up, illustrate it and put it in the computer
where you can slide it around
like a toony virtual puppet What
they’ve done up at Mercury Filmworks is basically liquefy our toony drawing and
sculpt it into any pose. So, if we send a special hand-drawn pose, and tell
them this is what we want the character to look like, they will take the
virtual 2D puppet and mold it to that drawing, or even redraw parts if they
need to . It’s a weird mix between 2D and 3D . All the original pieces are
based on drawings. With all these different planets and characters, it’s even
more complicated because you’ve got to have new puppets for every single one. I
really admire the “ink lines”, even though there’s no ink involved. It’s
smooth, really great.
So not /literally/ Adobe Flash, but a similar process. It's not the same process as OK K.O. or Amphibia.
True enough. No amount of groupthink can save a shit show.
I didn’t even pay attention to the animation there, that shit was funny.
Not being puppet rigged doesn’t really help your argument.
It looks like shit.
We can have that discussion, but calling it LITERALLY FLASH ANIMATION is incorrect.
Well you have a point...it’s some how worse than some flash shows
I'm sorry i'm going to have to disagree with you. If this is as you say Peak Toonboom, then i'm gonna say that toonboom can't touch traditional.
That's the same for all these feminists. Like Kate Leth having that dying cancer guy she seduced into cheating on his wife. She used to have him tie her up and beat her and drew art of it. All these feminist girls love being called a whore and roughed up in the bedroom when they're not complaining about microaggressions like being asked out or complimented in their day to day lives.
Anyone have that comic of the girl annoyed by sexism on the bus, etc. and in the last panel her bf is calling her a whore and she's agreeing?
Look I just wanted to make a quick comparison, I didn't realize I was going to raise the autists up from the dead. I don't want to derail Amphibia any more. In short, I think this animation is lifeless and boring. We'll leave it at that and save OK K.O. for OK K.O. threads.
It's all about the technique and skill of the animators.
>We'll leave it at that and save OK K.O. for OK K.O. threads.
So you’ll get three of your friends for a thread
>then i'm gonna say that toonboom can't touch traditional.
It'll never compete with hand drawn Richard Williams-tier animation, but it sure as fuck can compete with TV-level animation. Especially when compared to stuff like Simpsons, OK KO, Scooby Doo, or Amphibia.
Just being drawn by hand doesn't immediately make something good.
haha owned epic style
I just came here to shitpost Owl House. What the fuck happened?
Like Titmouse
Some OK KO fag is trying to shill his show.
BEST YEAR.
Am I the only one who likes OK K.O.'s ugly animation? It reminds me of these ms paint comics parodying other shit.
But this is an Amphibia thread, or at least it used to be.
>actually responding
>sneak peak
>Look I just wanted to make a quick comparison, I didn't realize I was going to raise the autists up from the dead.
I didn’t know calling garbage what it is was suddenly autistic behavior.
Comparing OK K.O with The Simpsons, Scooby Doo Where Are You and Amphibia is disingenuous. OK K.O., if it has a problem at all, is not consistent enough. The rest are consistent to a fault. Completely different "issues"
and yes, what you've posted is better than the average hand drawn Television production. It's an outlier.
I just commented that OK K.O. has so much more movement and life compared to this. This could be a puppet show and there would be essentially no difference.
Yeah, if you can't handle flexibility in cartoons you are kind of outing yourself as an autist.
>But this is an Amphibia thread, or at least it used to be.
I think that might have been the joke
>Inconsistent and lazy animation is flexible
Right, it’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Well, call me OP and tell me to suck another dick, because I don't get it.
>Puppets
youtu.be
Nothing is more lazy than doing the same thing over an over.
I’m pretty sure you have to be an autist to enjoy OK KO
You mean making sure the end product looks professional rather than a high budget newgrounds series?
It's less that it's too detailed, and more that it's too detailed in the wrong ways. Having the leaves/twigs in her hair, the SJMS crest on her shirt, and the missing shoe as consistent parts of Anne Boonchuy's design just adds needless details that the character designers, animators, and directors will have to keep an eye on in every fucking episode.
Plus, they imply that despite finding herself on an island inhabited by civilized frogs in clothing of their own, Anne will never once find a pond to wash her hair in or get one of her new frog friends to make her some new clothes/shoes.
It's a cute design, but it doesn't make sense in a production standpoint or in the context of the show.
Why are you saying it’s lifeless based on two minutes of footage?
Newgrounds series are great tho. You can almost feel the heart and soul that were put in them.
Nothing screams professional like mass produced uninspired puppet rigs. Total Drama siiiiip, now that was good animation.
Because those were the two minutes they showcased for their product and the only two minutes we have? I'm still going to watch further, it's a bad first impression though.
It’s kind of a long shit but maybe she gets cleaned up as the series goes on?
Like you said, it’s kind of weird for a character to have a messy design when they’re not Pig Pen. Maybe it’ll change.
no one would walk around with a sock and a shoe, that's just uncomfortable as fuck
So someone animated shitposts is somehow full of heart and soul.
>tfw they had to add cute lyrics and slightly change the theme music to be more happy and inviting for the target audience
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If I had the talent, I’d edit out her twigs and add a shoe, just to see if it’d be an improvement
I think that’s just one version for the YT channel. The sow will use the first version.
This.
I wanna know what made the crew decide to change her torn-open shoe into a wet sock during series development.
>he doesn't put effort on his shitposts
This is why Yea Forums is dead.
>a long shit
Gross.
>Total Drama siiiiip, now that was good animation.
Real talk, do you have autism?
nope there was an interview thing uploaded on the cn la youtube, running joke is that was made quiet often was that the crew better be working on that pilot
Do you have a retort or are you just going to crumble under mid to low effort banter?
It’s the little things that can change a design.
You didn’t answer my question.
hnru?
looks cute so idgaf
>Total Drama siiiiip, now that was good animation
But Total Drama had more going for it than
>Oh look at all the moving parts!
Nobody types like that
I doubt it. The background music is very similar to the SDCC version. And what would be the point of writing lyrics for a 40-second song that's perfectly timed with the title sequence's visuals? I think 's on the right track; the theme song was changed to sound less scary and more fun.
>Nothing screams professional like mass produced uninspired puppet rigs.
None of those shows are animated in flash and use puppet rigs you nimrod
Maybe it's just so people will stop calling it a Gravity Falls ripoff
That's a different conversation altogether
lurk moar I guess? Dunno how you missed that one, it's only like a year old and was everywhere? On every board?
What shows and where did I say they were?
It’s one of those boomer memes from reddit
>lurk moar I guess? Dunno how you missed that one, it's only like a year old and was everywhere? On every board?
I’ve been here since ‘13.
The only time anyone ever bothers to type it like that is plebbit.
How would you know?
>everywhere? On every board?
Because it's a shitty forced meme.
How do you think?
I lurk everywhere.
Maybe having to add the details of a foot inside an open shoe all the time (and animating it) would've been too complicated.
It looks like the one part of Anne's design that was simplified ended up being the one part that makes the least sense. That must be one durable sock if Anne's fine running around in it.
To stop that one storyboard artist from jerking off to her toes in the building.
He was a diversity hire.
>What shows and where did I say they were?
Amphibia, the show you’re obsessed with comparing to some mediocre CN show.
Why not just let her have two normal shoes?
Seems like they overcomplicated the symmetry of her design.
>but maybe she gets cleaned up as the series goes on?
Maybe the opposite happens and she gets progressively unkempt and filthy from living in a swamp.
That’d actually be pretty neat.
regardless, it would have been different if he said fuck off faggot and left it at that. But to say he's never seen it here before? pretty odd.
Well I think we'll skip the formality as you know what i'm going to say next.
Nowhere did I say this. If I did be sure to link it.
>Obsessed
On the contrary. I made one or two posts articulating my feelings and the rest is a response to the asshurt brigade.
Yes, and that fag fucked it up. It should have been something like this:
*crack* Now Total Drama Island, THAT was a real cartoon *siiiip*
Also why the fuck are we talking about the boomer meme?
>yfw she gets trench foot and dies of a secondary infection
>I made one or two posts articulating my feelings and the rest is a response to the asshurt brigade.
Asshurt brigade?
Nigga no one gives a fuck about OK KO. We came here to talk about Amphibia. You don’t go to a Marvel thread and post DC now do you?
you make interesting points. Let's see how they handle it in the show
I’d like to see her wash her hair a couple of times only for it to get comedically messed up in the exact same way immediately after. That gag is a classic.
She'd deserve it, nasty thieving Thai bitch.
I honestly assumed Total Drama was somehow boomer related. Of all the memes to reference
...
That too. Apparently Gravity Falls was the first show in television history to have whistling in its theme song
Lmao if Marvel does something that can be compared positively or negatively to DC I just might, and that's all it is, a point, not a thread hijacking.
People who are obsessed with shitting all over OK KO have completely derailed the thread instead of providing a counterpoint that relates back to Amphibia.
>Because those were the two minutes they showcased for their product and the only two minutes we have?
And yet you’re comparing them to an entire series that has hours of animation behind it?
Not a fair comparison.
>WHAT'S THE POINT??
They wanted a catholic schoolgirl outfit, but this is all they were allowed to have so they're using it damn it!
>Sprig's voice
I wish for CN LA's success, like CN Europe with Gumball and whatever they're working on after it ends.
I can pick essentially any two minutes. So unless this is a negative outlier it's pretty easy to guess this will be less inspired visually.
I'll still give it a chance of course.
What counterpoint can anyone give? OK KO has two entire seasons while all we have so far is a two second clip. As pointed out, it’s not a fair comparison.
I WANT TO FUCK THAT FROG
You called me?
>So unless this is a negative outlier it's pretty easy to guess this will be less inspired visually.
You have to remember this is also the frost season no duh it’s going to be a little stuff in the beginning.
Anons are just mad about Owen Dennis's miracle rant. The show's gonna be just fine. It's actually really exciting to see just how heavily involved he is with the show's production, going as far as animating some Steward scenes himself. But I doubt he'll be able to keep doing that past the first season.
Apparently it’s the same VA as the title character from Miles from Tomorrowland.
We at two seconds now? lmao. If you don't have a counterpoint than I guess you concede? Talk about how you liked the rope trap animation or her reaction faces, idk, I'm not going to be able to make your opinion for you that's gonna be something you reach on your own.
Something as simple as, it looks good to me is just fine.
This is possible as well.
>I can pick essentially any two minutes.
Or you can wait until the series drops to start comparing and contrasting and passing final judgement
He's doing a fantastic job. I've already fallen in love with Sprig. I just didn't expect the character to have a young child's voice is all.
Oh no somebody gave an opinion on a trailer meant to provide context for an upcoming show and help you generate your opinion.
>We at two seconds now? lmao
I meant two minutes and you know it.
Quit acting like a smug little shit over nothing.
Not really? Type what you mean. Either way the rest applies.
And sometimes trailers can’t always be trustworthy. Some trailers can be really shit when the product is actually good.
That’s why most people wait.
Don't you dare talk shit about my girl London Tipton
Real talk...are you autistic? Or underaged? Serious question here.
London Tipton? I haven't heard that name in years.
hence my ever present clarification "I'll still give it a chance"
So we have two actors from Suite Life who ended up on a Disney cartoon. Interesting.
I have no fucking clue what you’re trying to say.
The animation looks fine I don’t get what’s so “lifeless” about it.
gimme some draw requests bois
That was neat. Didn't hate Sprig's VA like I thought I would, and Brenda Song's good as well.
Anne with longer, even more unkempt hair.
And you’ll still shit on because “not muh ko”
The animation is fine. The character design is questionable.
Anne with two shoes on.
Sprig trying to cross a street Frogger style
But a trailer is SUPPOSED to generate hype and give a person a reason to be interested in something they've never heard of before. Yes, some bad trailers have turned away people from watching a product that they would've loved, but it's not unreasonable if someone forms an opinion after watching a trailer. That is it's point after all.
Disregarding the trailer and being open minded to every single thing that has been announced is the antithesis of marketing.
Anne dressed up like a witch from Harry Potter.
Not everyone who you disagree with can be categorized that way, sorry.
In my view the animation lacks dynamism and expressiveness. It's very flat and simple from generally a single flat perspective and a focus on mouth movements over everything else.
I wouldn't rule out the possibility, but there are plenty of good looking cartoons that aren't OK K.O.
>Disregarding the trailer and being open minded to every single thing that has been announced is the antithesis of marketing.
And? We’re not in the marketing business.
Anne dressed as Tsuyu Asui
You're being marketed TO though. If the trailer fails to hook you in, it's not the responsibility of a potential consumer to give everything a shot anyway.
>Not everyone who you disagree with can be categorized that way, sorry.
I was being serious.
Compared to everyone else’s posts here your’s are...off
I was hooked in though. You on the other hand aren’t.
Clearly we have different opinions.
Anne, Liz and Tulip sharing K.O. and a boomer's dicks.
Yes, but demanding someone, "JUST WAIT AND WATCH THE SERIES" if the trailer doesn't interest them is asinine.
>In my view the animation lacks dynamism and expressiveness. It's very flat and simple from generally a single flat perspective and a focus on mouth movements over everything else.
Disagree. The animation wasn’t over emphasized because it didn’t need to be, it was going for character introduction. If this was a more action or frantic scene, then it’d be different.
Not really, if only because it saves the “I told you so” if you do like it.
The show has other options
Wowee! When did Anne get so lewd?
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In my experience, nearly everyone actually had a better experience when they watched a show in full, explicitly saying that it was better than the trailers made it out to be. Mostly TV shows but plenty of gamers also had this reaction.
>Zalgo posting
>in current year
Is this 2012 all over again?
>I wouldn't rule out the possibility,
Oh joy
Fuck off, the animation is perfectly fine. And the show's art direction is pretty fucking stunning.
Might as well post Ben Drowned.
Fair point on the context, I still feel that even a scene as simple as this could use a bit more effort in the shot composition department.
Pretty good background. Nowhere did I say anything about art direction. I do think the MC is a little bland looking though.
Only for you, my lord.
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I was wonder why that voice sounded sooo familiar
Did you completely miss OP's clip? Sprig (and Wally) originally thought that Anne was a monster.
The series synopsis could also be referring to Anne as having a "monstrous" personality at the start of the show, what with her having fake friends before getting transported to Amphibia.
>The series synopsis could also be referring to Anne as having a "monstrous" personality at the start of the show
That's what I thought the synopsis was referring to, yeah, it just seemed like an oddly strong word to use for it.
haha
see:
See, that would be a cute running gag. The messy outfit, on the other hand, isn't the best idea.
seconding
Yep. Just like it invented the 'ancient journal' trope. I swear, GF fans can be some of the most clueless people out there. I agree that the show deserves the success and lasting fame it's gotten, but sometimes it'll just get praised for the most basic fucking things.
So, Big City Greens is dead once this and The Owl House are both on the air, right?
I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but I literally thought that was a page from J3 for a moment. The font is identical. Sorta defeated your own point
It's easy to make that Journal 3 comparison because Gravity Falls is still fresh on everyone's minds. Old journals about fantastical creatures span decades in the history of film and literature (The Spiderwick Chronicles is a recent example).
Victor and Valentino is really easy to compare to GF since it's "a supernatural adventure comedy starring two siblings who spend a summer with an older relative in a small and mysterious town where myths and legends come to life," so was a poor example on my part. But my point still stands; Gravity Falls didn't invent the 'ancient journal.' People give that show too much undeserved credit at times.
You guys don't know how fucking ecstatic I am that Ian Worrel's the art director on Amphibia. He and Jeffrey Thompson really helped make Gravity Falls look more cinematic. I wouldn't be surprised if the backgrounds were a major reason why that show took so long to make two seasons.
I knew it never came up with the idea, but I feel like the idea became a lot more common(at least among western animation) after GF aired. Like I could think of a couple examples of that trope after '12 but maybe one before.
Cute as fuck. I'll watch it.
She looks really familiar, actually. I know I've seen that 'slightly brown, dark brown hair even though real brown people have black hair, messy mop with leaves and junk stuck in it' pattern before. Maybe it was someone's OC
>that bell at 0:28
Have you ever met a female before? their voices don't change like ours do.
Puppet rigs can be used well too, look at the Tangled cartoon and Lion Guard.
naw that wasn't it, but the ORIGINAL original version of Urchin, when her name was Patty or whatever, was closer to that.
oh wait, I think I'm thinking of a little beast girl in another cartoon I don't watch. I think it's harvey beaks?
Dayum, was Mallory Grace always that cute?
>oh wait, I think I'm thinking of a little beast girl in another cartoon I don't watch. I think it's harvey beaks?
Possibly. God, that show deserved better. I hope Greenblatt hasn't been too discouraged to quit the animation industry.
Didn't you make the exact same thread not even a day ago?
yeah that show really looked like a Camp Lazslo to me, like... good creator, poor show. but from what I hear, it was a fine show, just kinda poor treatment
So what if he did? That thread didn't last because Yea Forums was still talking about Endgame 24/7. It may have taken a few tries, but it's nice to finally see Amphibia with its own standalone thread lasting more than 50 replies.
I wasn't there for that one, so you won't hear any complaints from me.
I almost wanna go back to when nobody cared about my interests.
This girl is really cute, I'd draw some fanart but I don't see any point really. All I know about her is she's cute, I'd just be drawing a generic cute girl. unless I tried actually drawing on-model. and I don't wanna do that. it's awkward drawing a vulva between legs that are each less than a fourth as wide as the torso
"Kinda poor treatment" is a major understatement.
We all know modern Nick has a history with fucking over its new shows that aren't immediately Sponge-level successes, but the way they treated the breath of fresh air that was Harvey Beaks--and spat in Greenblatt's near decade of development for his passion project--was unacceptable.
Why lewd a cute, innocent girl like Anne when exists?
did they actually mess with its content or just shit like the schedule being shite
to me it doesnt look like anything special, certainly not compared to Chowder
Underrated post
dafaq?
love ..............freaking .............beautiful.....dead cricket.
Not lewd, just nude. she seems like a dirty mudbathing hippie
GF's mystery plot is just bait for fake intellectuals
you watch GF because you miss when The Simpsons was good. that's all it is.
Are you having a stroke?
I want to ____ those nostrils
>GF's mystery plot is just bait for fake intellectuals
How so?
Braindead
>she seems like a dirty mudbathing hippie
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Yeah, that is what happens to some people after having a stroke.
Polly is cute! CUUUTE!
Most likely. Chris should've stuck with character design.
Chill, nigga.
God this was a painful thread to scroll through. Show looks good, waiting to see more.
>another ambiguously brown person
what's her race
There's more from where that came from
>Turn the W up side down
>SJWS
Thai possibly
>RENT-FREE
But I'll forgive you for posting based Hilda
read the filename, samefag
Thai definitely
I'll never understand how anyone can have this fetish. Even footfags are more understandable.
It could be worse, There are people who get off to plastic soggy bags strapped around their waist that is designed to capture their waste.
fpbp
To be honest, that's the way I think of all mystery.
hell no. why would I want to draw fanart of something I think is a bad thing
Nice double dubs.
oh I knew it was either that or mexican. those are the only languages where you can have a word end in -uy
well except weird english words like guy and buy
had to fucking ruin it. shut the fuck up about your representation. you had a fucking power ranger.
also
her hair is brown and curly and she's way too dark-skinned to be thai. she looks like Teza Maccaud
Thai people are super brown.
>had to fucking ruin it. shut the fuck up about your representation. you had a fucking power ranger
She was Vietnamese.
Braly's got every right to boast about this. There really aren't that many Thai characters in mainstream television, and even fewer Thai protagonists. Those of you who choose to bitch and moan about main characters who are PoC look pathetic and insecure. It really doesn't hurt you, and it's actually a breath of fresh air from the usual default.
I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of those guys who dismisses Into the Spider-Verse because you're mad that Peter Parker wasn't the star of the show, despite him still playing a major role throughout the film.
>Vietnamese
oh same thing
>I wouldn't be surprised if-
something tells me you make a lot of assumptions about others. But you then demonize them for THEIR assumptions.
>102 KB, 1080x1080
How were you able to post this when already exists?
Dude, you just had a show ruined because a creator made a Thai character.
Scratch that. I see what you did
Anna dressed like Akko from Little Witch Academia
Nice! Not only is she cute, but she has that meter-long frog tongue with infinite possibilities. I'm all up for it.
I don't think he's doing any.
>frog
>with teeth
>'Most frogs have small, little teeth on their upper jaw for keeping prey in place as they swallow.'
I'm surprised Misha hasn't shown up yet.
Mallory is bae
Anne and Urchin really don't look that similar. Dustin is safe to continue exploring and developing his character.
What kind of possibilities did you have in mind, user?
Anyone still got that leaked Owl House theme song?
I thought I was the only one missing him
What's the deal with Anne's voice?, she sounds deep as fuck. her voice doesn't fit with her outif nor her body at all.
Disappointing. Nothing was funny or interesting. Why does Anne sound so raspy?
>Why does Anne sound so raspy?
Someone's unfamiliar with Brenda Song
It’s Yea Forums. They know TTG is shit but its worth just to piss off TTfags who autistically screech everytime their show is insulted.
>directed by another lesbo
Kys
And that's bad because...
So I'm not the only one.
Even though we already knew Brenda Song would be voicing Anne, it's still pretty jarring to hear how mature she sounds as a character. I kind of felt the same way when I first heard Cricket's voice. Luckily, I was able to get used to that, just like I'm sure we'll eventually embrace Anne's.
Dipper would've been another case of a character sounding more mature than their design would imply, but we were fortunate enough to be officially introduced to that character through his voice first (youtube.com
Last I checked, Kim Roberson isn't a lesbian. Neither are Bert Youn nor Derek Kirk Kim.
Fuck outta here, man
>fake friends
I'm expecting a fucking gut punch once Anne realizes this. Braly better not disappoint.
Are there any funny/inappropriate Brenda Song soundclips to make a fan animation of?
I feel like you'd find a fuckton just from the first Suite Life series alone. Also,
You wanna know who else Justin Felbinger played?... ;^)
>being spoiled by choppy, floaty inconsistent animation that relies on over acting and le epic meme faces
get some fucking standards man
Finally some footage. Those are some some sexy looking backgrounds there.
Never thought I'd see you update your pasta.
>Talks about how he wanted to see characters like him in cartoons
>Makes the Thai character a girl
What did Matt mean by this?
Unlike Yea Forums being a bunch of contrarian weebs as usual here, I actually think thisnlooks promising and I will be watching it. Same with Owl House. I know BOTH will be far superior to anything in Star Vs and that's just a good fraction the motivation I need, really.
keep being a delusional fuckhead
Some anons guessed it's an outro. Sometimes, outro is the opening without words, or vice versa (like in Welcome to the Wayne for example).
But yeah, if they leave this song version as an intro, this will be fucking retarded.
>lesson learned: never have high hopes for a cool looking cartoon again
Holy fuck this is boring. I couldn't get past one minute of this shit. What's the point of creating a well designed setting with depth if you're just going to have bargain bin characters fuck around all the time?
Wow, that is some dirt poor animation quality. Jerky, static, and lacking exaggeration. God damn what is the point of making such simplistic designs if you don't take advantage of them?
Stop being lazy you Calarts abortion
The frog is pretty obnoxious, scrapy doo style.
>sjws shirt
>Cuts rope with a pointy stick
that loli is naked, dude
He's an Yea Forums poster
I wonder how well Disney is gonna treat it - as good as Star vs or as bad as Wander.
>women doing the snoysmile
yikes
As good as Gravity Falls.
>that stupid fucking hair loop
I hate it.
>2019
>male MCs
pick one
This actually looks and sounds rather pleasant. Good visuals and timing, and banter that doesn't sound forced (it's amazing how many new shows fail at this because they confuse personality with quirkiness.) I'm also relieved that the sidekick character isn't an adult doing a nasally impression of a child, nor a loud and obnoxious scene chewer.
Optimism rising.
Big City Greens protag is a boy. Although, real star is a girl, of course
God, am I afraid to see how the internet will manage to lewd a fucking spherical tadpole
>I'm also relieved that the sidekick character isn't an adult doing a nasally impression of a child
This. I’m assuming Polly is also voiced by a child actress. Bless you, Braly
Miracle rant?
He was being an arrogant fag going on about how every cartoon is a miracle and you should never complain about some creator being lazy
you know what i miss on cartoons this days?
adults, competent adults, is that hard to have a competent adult in a show and not just let kids alone in the wild doing dumb thigns that could easy be avoided with a adult there to be the voice of reason?
i know that in this shows the kids should be the heroes, but this always end in the same repetitive dramas and cliches.
That one user who claimed to have worked as an intern at Disney said the letters on the crest stood for "Sir John's Mundane School".
>nothing is bad, you are just mad, you should consume in silence like mature slaves like myself. Every corporate employee is talented, you consume and die, or else.
Hilda has a really good mom who's neither overprotective nor careless about her daughter. Most cartoon parents are indeed either strict and purposely boring or fun-loving yet basically braindead.
I think it used to be the other way round - the adults were the protagonists and kids were added only to give young viewers someone they could relate to.
We all know that SJMS is an acronym for Anne’s school, but that doesn’t explain why the crew couldn’t come up with a simpler shorthand for Anne’s design rather than the overly busy model we’re left with. Tracking the bounce of the twig and leaves in Anne’s hair whenever she moves quickly, or maintaining the crosshatch on her shirt are things that will kill the animators over in Korea.
More detailed character designs are definitely encouraged, but not like this. I don’t think Anne’s design is a good example of a character model made for the TV production pipeline.
Also, we all know that “intern” is full of shit. He claimed that Polly was named ‘Polé,’ and when asked about the voice cast, the dude didn’t give a single mention that Brenda Fucking Song was the lead role.
i miss adults like iroh in avatar.
he iroh is a perfect balance between the competent adult giving good tips to the young characters but also not acting like a boring overprotective adult always saying NO to them.
wanna bet the blonde one will join the villains?
the Main girl will realise that she was a friend with a huge jerk bully all the time.
Your posts obsessing over a design that is way too late to change because season 1 production is completely done is verging on autistic, buddy.
What did Sprig ever do to you?
Leave it to me.
>stop talking about things I don't care about, it triggers MY autism
I WANT EDA TO GROOM ME INAPPROPRIATELY
>reee stop making fun of me
Being obsessive over details in a design because you're worried about the production pipeline in a show where the first season is already done isn't talking about things I don't like, it's literally just an autistic conversation you're having with yourself and spamming in these threads everytime they show up.
>I don’t think Anne’s design is a good example of a character model made for the TV production pipeline
This. The Owl House looks like it managed to have unique, semi-realistic designs while also simplifying them with basic shapes and bold, minimalist color choices.
Believe me, I’m real embarrassed about making that tweet.
>Fingernails on a character
>Two-striped shirt
>Character design with a skull, one of the most annoying things to put in a design
Nah. Owl House's designs are way more detailed than Amphibia's and costly when it doesn't have to be.
>one of the most annoying things to put in a design
Why's that?
Nigga, the designs are simplified as fuck, yet still appealing. Only a CalArts-bandwagoner would whine about fingernails on a character. Luz's two-color hoodie can be iconic while still being much simpler than Anne's school uniform, and King's skull helmet just uses basic shapes.
The people on The Owl House know how to make a detailed art style work. Amphibia's crew does, too aside from its main character.
you're the one spamming with your pointless replies
if you don't give a fuck, simply don't comment you fucking dumbass
>Two posts
>Spamming
You upset someone called you out for your autism?
If you're going to bitch about a logo on someone's shirt, then you should also bitch about drawing every single fingernail or the cutoff bands on a pair of pants. That shit adds up in animation, just like a logo on a shirt. They're both cluttered with details that COULD be trimmed down, you just hate Anne's design for some reason.
I want Eda to step on my dick
keep on replying with your rage of uncontrollable autism, it's really entertaining
>fingernails
>the cutoff bands on a pair of pants
Those are shapes that are simple enough and work well to form each character's design/silhouette. Complaining about those is like complaining about Dipper's shoes being too detailed.
I like Anne's design, but there's no reason for keeping her school crest so detailed. Showing the letters in closeup shots would be fine, but in wider shots, the colors alone should be enough. Also, her design just doesn't make any sense. I hope somebody targets Matt and asks him if Anne's really gonna go the entire series wearing the same dirty clothes when she has frog friends who can sew her new ones right away.
Ah, there's nothing like seeing classic Disney Channel stars in more mature roles.
Why the fuck are you autistically zoning in on the letters on her shirt? Why are you so obsessed with this?
>HEH HEH, IF I GET (YOU)'s, IT MEANS MY PLAN OF PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED WORKED
You can always tell when the newfag literally has nothing left to say when they resort to that.
they're unnecessary yo
Season 1 is fucking done. Whatever gripes and concerns you have about the animators having to redraw it is literally in vain because they already did it.
>Coming Soon:
>WHERE ARE ALL THE MANLY MEN THESE DAYS? WHY CAN'T MEN BE RESPONSIBLE AND MASCULINE ANYMORE? WHAT HAPPENED TO CONFIDENT MEN WHO TAKE THE INITIATIVE? WHERE HAVE ALL THE COWBOYS GONE? A BLOO BLA BLOO BLOO BLOO
Must suck being stuck into imaginary hateland wher you have to "predict" things that don't happen to feel like you won something in your life.
I'm aware of that. I just want Matt to explain his crew's thought process behind why they went with such a design.
Will she fuck the frog? This is all I care about.
>another mexcian protag
how many mexicans protaganist in cartoons are we gonna have?
Funny enough that's exactly happened with Japan, who allowed certain entertainment since the 70s and has a depression/isolation crisis.
Because it looks nice and your argument so far has been shit.
That was pretty good.
sure it looks nice, but it doesn't make sense in the context of the show. and it's an unnecessarily busy design
Sometimes a character simply has a punchable face without even needing to know them, like the magic dog in FoP or OP.
The context of the show is that she was probably at school which has a mandatory uniform code and found the box immediately after being dismissed and saw it in the parking lot or some shit.
Anne taking off her socks.
Funny that you have to make up a scenario to combat the real scenario of women acting like there have never been women characters on TV or in film before.
and now she's stuck in that same filthy outfit until she eventually finds her way back home
Yes? What do you want her to do, go back to Earth, change, and come back?
There is a whole society of well-dressed frogs and toads that Anne will make friends with. How isn't she able to ask for the local tailor to sew her up some new clothes?
How do you know for a fact that this is a society of independent talking frogs and not a society of frogs where random human objects have gotten sucked into the weird magic box and they just started claiming it? How do you know she isn't very attached to her uniform because it reminds her of home and she wants to stay emotionally close to Earth?
After a certain point, it becomes the, "Why doesn't the government show up in Steven Universe" where the answer is because Matt Braly designed it to be that way, that's why.
You got me there, boss. Fair enough.
Anne cunny
Sprig boipussy
She's Thai.
Not the artist taking on requests, but I felt like giving it a try
here u go, this ones on the house
Thanks!
Horny mofo
Shaddap Irwin
Kys
1 minute and I already hate you.
not gonna lie, that's a pretty sexy frog right there
>This is the first I'm hearing of 'Celica Westbrook'
Same here. Who dat?
see: and
they could have just...not had the letters. they add nothing and attract too much attention to her chest. unless the logo is magic or some shit.
i'm not a huge fan of dana terrace's style, it feels too anatomical to appeal to me. though i respect her draftsmanship abilities.
Now I'm upset because now I want Anne to slowly progress into a wildgirl swamp princess as the show goes on and I know that's probably not going to happen.
>the letters attract too much attention to her chest
What if that was Braly's plan all along
Amazingly intricate staging as usual. The same sideways perspective that's been used by almost everything for the past century.
>Why aren't sitcoms on a TV budget trying to re-invent the wheel
It's not a matter of budget at all.
>the past century.
So nearly the entire history of animation?
It is when it's a comedy cartoon. There's no reason to have swooping dynamic camera shots when two characters are introducing themselves.
Nigga, calm the fuck down. 2D lends itself to keeping the characters' heads in 3/4 perspective. The staging was fine, and the characters' poses were fun.
No, it really isn't a matter of budget. This is how American animation has always been, whether it's been a TV series, a theatrical short or a feature movie. Always that same basic cartoon perspective. Besides, American shows have big budgets and all the work is handled by cheap peons in Korea. If they were so seriously starved for resources that they can't change the camera angle, they wouldn't have so much movement.
You can do nearly anything in 2D that you can do with a real camera.
TIGER TIGER TIGER UPPERCUT
>wearing a blaser over a hoodie
Goddamn, aren't they in California? How fucking cold are those Disney offices?
I never knew how much a person could talk and still have nothing to say.
Very cold specifically because of how damn hot it is outside.
t. guy who worked in Texas offices where it could get to be so cold, I would take a walk outside in the heat to warm up
Why are you lying?
Why are you acting like you understand animation, film composition, or even the industry pipeline when you've probably never even drawn a stick figure before?
Are you the same guy who said an MCU movie doing over the shoulder shots was cliche because everyone does it?
It's true that I'm bad at drawing (not that I ever said or implied anything about my drawing ability, so you were just making a wild guess based on nothing), but that doesn't mean I don't understand those topics.
>Are you the same guy who said an MCU movie doing over the shoulder shots was cliche because everyone does it?
No, but I'm sure you wish I were so you can divert the argument in a different, more convinient direction.
Complaining about a comedy cartoon using a flat two-person shot is the most retarded complaint you could have about a sitcom for kids, but amazingly, you still think they're trying to make the next Breaking Bad with this show I guess.
This has the same character designers as Gravity Falls and Big City Greens, right?
Comedy anime doesn't do that. Children's anime doesn't do that.
Here's where I would post the .webm of the 60 different animes flashing by all with the exact same staging and even similar character designs.
That was already debunked, as you know. So why bring it up?
there's no point in arguing with Yea Forumsutists user, there just here to shit up the thread for epic (you)'s
>Rips from shows were "debunked"
Care to explain that retarded logic? I'm interested in what mental hoops you've created, seriously, I am.
Where have I shitted up anything? Where have I baited? Cite specific posts and explain in detail.
There is a huge amount of anime, and anime utilizes a huge amount of camera angles, so obviously you can cherry pick specific ones and make a supercut out of them. And some camera angles repeat more than others. This is completely different from the systemic repetition of American animation.
Everything, user. EVERYTHING
based and frogpilled
You're right, it is completely different in that we only get a handful of new cartoons a year, often made by the same creative teams, whereas anime gets about 100 a month.
Don't compare shit that's wildly different in pipeline if you're going to whine about your precious anime being cherrypicked during the argument.
Anime seasons are three months long, and it's more like 50 if you count absolutely everything.
The "pipeline" of American animation production does not mandate reusing the same perspective for a hundred years.
Go back to Yea Forums if you want to talk about anime, stop going off-topic. This thread is about Amphibia, not anime. No one gives a shit about anime.
It has some of the same background artists as Gravity Falls (Ian Worrel's the art director), but the only character designers I'm aware of are Brandon Wu (OK K.O.!) and Joe Sparrow (AT's Minecraft special).
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>"UGH I'M TIRED OF THESE SAME COMPOSITIONS SUPERIOR ANIME DOESN'T DO THAT"
>Some do, in fact, quite a few use the same shots as each other.
>"THAT DOESN'T COUNT. DEBUNKED!"
I wish instead of a robot captcha test on this site, there was an autist one. Not even worth giving you the (you)'s, work harder, bitch.
...
Stop having a total freakout because someone mentions anime in a discussion that's about animation.
>No one gives a shit about anime.
Why do people say this when absolutely everyone, including themselves, can plainly tell it's not true?
I just explained why you're wrong. Right here:
>There is a huge amount of anime, and anime utilizes a huge amount of camera angles, so obviously you can cherry pick specific ones and make a supercut out of them. And some camera angles repeat more than others. This is completely different from the systemic repetition of American animation.
>Not even worth giving you the (you)'s
Show me where I have baited and provide evidence or logical reasoning to prove your accusation.
Not an anime thread, stop going off-topic.
What the fuck is going on anymore? First the thread was derailed by shitting on OK K.O.!, and now we're wasting space talking about how "flat" American cartoons are.
Will future Amphibia threads always be like this?
I'm gonna assume the show will be like Big City Greens where there's literally nothing to talk about because it's so boring, so yeah.
It's starting to feel like most of these showrunners are just making a show for a paycheck, which sounds incorrect because artists don't get paid that high.
Then stop turning it into an anime thread. Stop blaming me for your own derails.
nope just one dedicated autist wielding his nippon steel sword and shitting themselves
Autism doesn't exist, and you're the ones who who freaked out just because I mentioned anime.
>this retard again
well that explains everything
>I'm gonna assume the show will be like Big City Greens where there's literally nothing to talk about because it's so boring
Fuck no. This has lore and adventure. Disney clearly wants it to be Gravity Falls's successor, and I'm sure it'll be just that. It may not grow to be as globally popular or innovative as GF, but Amphibia and The Owl House will definitely become standouts in the 2020s era of cartoons.
Showrunners make a lot. Especially if their show pulls in a lot of viewers. Just look at Justin Roiland and Alex Hirsch for that.
>Lore makes a show good
>Thinks actual adventure shows exist anymore and not just comedy shows that sometimes have a monster chase once in awhile
So naive.
I never said that lore makes a show good; just that it's what keeps people interested discussing and theorizing over it. Big City Greens gets practically no attention because it's not only a mundane slice-of-life cartoon, but also doesn't do much with its setting or the few characters it has.
Not my cup of tea at all personally and I probably won't watch, but I think it looks nice enough.
Looks good, I hope it's good, and I hope you all enjoy it!
>>Big City Greens gets practically no attention because it's not only a mundane slice-of-life cartoon, but also doesn't do much with its setting or the few characters it has.
It doesn’t, considering that the setting is taken within the large metropolitan area with a little to so of limited characters with a numerous amount of them that rarely appear so often much like the MCs, the lack of originality of the characters that appears aren’t experimenting anything strong enough to make em like if they worth the attention.
>It's Toonboom, and it's Toonboom puppet rigs at it's peak.
Amen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS9xsAbs4Kw
trips of good manners
This I was expecting him to have the voice of an annoying nasally older man.
So yoda?
I guess his description as "a young frog named Sprig" was as literal as can be. I don't think many of us interpreted him as a little kid.
>just that it's what keeps people interested discussing and theorizing over it.
Right, because Star Vs. and Steven Universe have great talkback threads.
That shot really stood out to amongst all the other shots with chill, leafy-green backdrops. Goes to show just how little we really do know about what this show will offer.
I'm hyped, bros
It looks aesthetically pleasing for one, and I think the characters have great chemistry. But (And I know where the fuck we are) it's a bit too childish for me. I'm sure I would have loved this as a kid though, and I hope other Anons appreciate the good work and effort put into something like this. And honestly, there's much more of a tangible reason to be excited for something like this than say The Owl House which looks like it's been having a ton of issues production-wise. I hope it doesn't go full SU or Star Vs and you guys all enjoy it. It's a lot more fun to browse here when Yea Forums likes something once in a blue moon. And who knows? Maybe I'll give it a watch if the buzz is good enough.
I think he meant outside of this board user.
double-dubs of wholesomeness
Porn WHEN?
why does it have tits
How else would the crew let everybody know that she's waifubait?
>The dude needs to draw more thicc milfs, tho
Couldn't agree more
Why, the better to squeeze and suck on, dear!
T H I S .
>HA
betcha your ass would stay the fuck outta loli feet
Do frogs even lactate?
Why are you so angry?
Why are you so late?
*sneak peek
I didn't expect him to have a young kid voice either.
No.
I'm pretty sure and were being sarcastic. Every now and then, Gravity Falls will get credit for common tropes that it clearly didn't invent.
*shrug* Stay angry that some people don't worship anime like you secretly do, my obvious dear binary weeb.
They secrete mucus
>Apparently Gravity Falls was the first show in television history to have whistling in its theme song
Much as I believe in human stupidity or bad memory, I doubt this a lot. You must've pulled this out of your ass. Otherwise people are uncultured jackasses.
youtube.com
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and the most fucking classic of them all
youtube.com
I'm fairly certain that user was being sarcastic, as they heard someone else make that claim, I'm glad you posted some nice whistleing listening.
>and the most fucking classic of them all
I thought for sure you were gonna post this absolute bop: youtube.com
Most definitely, honestly the hype for this show would probably be more exciting than the actual show.
POST MOAR MOMMY SCULLY
user was being sarcastic because people have been making so many wild claims about things being rip-offs of each other because of basic imagery or themes.
>It has a mystery.
GRAVITY FALLS RIP OFF!
>Character uses magic
STAR VS. RIP OFF!
>Show is about three kids in a small town
ED EDD N EDDY RIP OFF!
Etc.
It probably would’ve been a better VA than what Cricket was voiced
>Good treatment
Putting the 2nd season into XD channel
I’m happy it’s a kid. Between dipper, the duck tales kids, and cricket I’m sick of the adult trying to sound like a little boy thing. It works for gumball and could work here.
That angelic laughter is music to my ears
God, I love Gillian IRL, but as Scully I just want her to look at me with mild disgust and general apprehension.
I'm of the exact opposite. I think most kid voice actors suck with just a few exceptions. One of the few times where it was consistently good was in Hey Arnold. I'd rather have professional voice actors with good comedic timing and performances like in Xiaolin Showdown than risk bad kid casting and have them butcher the reads.
But kirby is so adorable.
Not you, retard. I'm talking about the faggot frog with a punchable face.
Man Disney had a kick back in the early 00s where they were mostly *not* using korean studios outside of a few specific shows like Gravity Falls. But since GF ended most of their stuff has been at korea
He only voiced in the pilot, the rest was a different dude.
It's split up all over the place, but I think Taiwan and China still do a respectable chunk.
I guess if there's one thing going for the current style of cartoons, is that's it's not as noticeable when multiple studios work on a show.
I don't see Pepe anywhere.
>Garbage
It is a cartoon, what's your point retardo?