Endgame

no time travel, Reveal that Thanos' explanation about balance was just bullshit to cover up his death fetish

No because it doesn't make sense. Maybe just remove Wasp from the scene then.

someone's mad

While I respect the decision to have the film start out with the stones destroyed, I feel like it would have been more crushing if Thanos had them, actually fought the Avengers for a bit, and then committed suicide by destroying the stones and the gauntlet.

Cap gets killed by Thanos while Tony grabs the Stones before sacrificing himself, both of them dying in battle for the greater good.

Nah she barely got anything to do, plus I liked the way she popped in

Only incels would defend her tho.

The A Force thing wouldn't be so bad if it was just 4 or 5 of the female members. Having every member and Rescue opening her helmet was bad. Still not enough to ruin the movie.

When Doctor Strange and his buddies open a bunch of portals to bring in the Wakanda army and every restored avenger, also bring DeadPool and the X-Men. Basically confirm the merging of both Fox and Marvel Studios.

There's not much to fix. I'd add ten seconds of Rocket finding out the Guardians are dead, five explaining how Carol found Tony, ten more of rocket reuniting with the Guardians at the end, and ten to show a Black Widow memorial.

Have Cap shown how he returned the stones, and have him come back as an old man in the timetravel-suit instead of just sitting on a bench when it's explained that's not possible, because he would be in alternative timeline instead the original timiline.

Carol annoys the hell out of me because they're selling her so goddamn hard. I'm pretty sure the writers are working under a huge number of restrictions with her compared to the other characters.

Can't ever be helped by a man.
Never smiles.
No-sells a headbutt from a character that tossed Thor and Hulk around like ragdolls.

Everytime they introduce her they could add "Your heavyweight champion of the world!" and it wouldn't seem out of place.

Less white people, more diversity

yes

no

horrible idea

t. actual retard

Yeah, I was surprised they didn't show Rocket reuniting with the Guardians outside of him jumping on Groot to protect him during the bombing run

I want Rocket to use a heavily modified Hulkbuster like a giant mecha

I'd make a few small changes that adjust the existing plot rather than overhaul the mess that it is:
>the IW snap destroys the Infinity Stones
>Thanos himself was included but it takes time for him to be erased
>they find him in the Garden the same way they do in the film but with particles slowly coming off of him
>Thor's strike makes Thanos fully disintegrate rather than behead him
>less time passes between the snap and finding Thanos in the garden; and between Thanos dying and the time travel (i.e. shorter timeskips)

The impact this has on the story:
>don't need to bring the stones back in time because the unsnap would destroy them as well (the only reason they included this as a rule was to get rid of them in the story, they don't actually care about the timelines as evidenced by Cap's and 2014 Thanos and Nebula's destinies)
>Thanos becomes a lot more compelling as a character
>avoids the brutal and almost out-of-place silly beheading
>makes 2014 Thanos' motivation change more realistic
>gives Cap a chance at a better ending
>avoids a ton of timeskip logistics problems (if it was one year instead of five, it would fit with their formula of having the movies set in the year they're released, since the beginning of Endgame still takes place in 2018)

>No-sells a headbutt from a character that tossed Thor and Hulk around like ragdolls.

No sells a headbutt by a Thanos who has only had ANY infinity stones in his possession for about eight seconds.

She also went down with one power stone powered punch -- like, Hulk and Thor did in Infinity War.

What the fuck would daredevil do?

>Never smiles.

She smiles plenty.

Run the opposite direction to the battle.

Two more posts like this and a girl has to hold your hand user!

I chuckled.

I like how they actually gave her a personality moment when she talked to Peter. Also, despite the age difference, I really want them to fuck.

>What the fuck would daredevil do?

Rocket gives him a gun, sits back and laughs.

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>Instead of killing Thanos, the Avengers realize how useless it is to kill him now and how it would be cruel to kill a man who won't fight back
>Still cut off his hand though
>They leave him there with Nebula
>Nebula helps him cultivate the Garden out of pity, puts cyber stuff all over it
>He requests to be allowed to see the universe he's created
>Thinking it will help show him how badly he fucked everything up, she sets up video feeds
>Accidentally shows the Avengers working to get the stones back through time
>Thanos gets desperate- not angry, but desperate, ends up killing Nebula when she tries to stop him from escaping
>Sad moment where he's sacrificed both daughters to his dream
>Uses her body to make a new mechanical arm for himself, gathers the remnants of his army that still believe in his cause
>THAT'S the final battle, not 'Muh Whole Universe' Thanos

Why would anybody give a shit a about Carol, she's barely in the movie and just shows up to do basically the same thing she does in her own movie before getting her face caved in.

>I'M SORRY

Eh it was pretty good, I just feel bad for Mantis since she had to be a part of the girl power moment despite having absolutely no ability to do anything. Couldn't she have picked up a pistol somewhere or something?

Less silly humor.
Less maudlin navel gazing.

Make the movie about the Avengers becoming legends, or even just strengthen that aspect with Tony dying. Its like the Avengers that died/retired punched in their time card vs being honored by the people they saved.
Also, OG Thanos shouldve been the final villain, and the movie would've properly challeged his ideals. Wouldve been WAY more satisfying than "angry CGI purple monster"

Make Thanos from 2014 come for the stones, not to bombing the Avengers Compound, and then get sucked into the soul realm when he comes to 2023, and meet Farm Thanos, whos soul still exists after death. 2014 is appalled that 2018 allowed Gamora and Nebula to betray him and got easily killed by small, petulant earthlings, while 2018 is amazed at how small-minded he was just a few years before. 2018 ends up killing 2014, taking over his body, and then ordering the attack on the Compound, since having them fight a 9 years younger Thanos was stupid.
Woah, cool! Have an upboat

>Have old cap talk to Bucky and not just Sam
YES

There's NO WAY to make the movie work (aka bring back the dead) without it mate

His arc was never about redemption, it was about learning to live with the other guy. Unfortunately we didn't see that either, we just saw the outcome.

That would've been really cool, but there's no way they can "fight for a bit" when it takes less than a second for Thanos to make them all vanish from existence

No. Cap's ending was beautiful. One sacrifice was enough, I'm glad they didn't do any bullshit that took our attention away from it.

I really like this because then they go against the same Thanos, not one that they never met before. I know it's the same guy, but the stakes are different (less personal).

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My only complain is that Thor was a real fucking joke, not the good balance of badass/humor that we usually get. When he gets a panic attack in Asgard, it's really off tone with the overall plot and character, as of anyone he's got the most anger and desire to get revenge on what happened. I would have appreciated a moment after saying goodbye to his mother where he realizes what kind of man he's become, and makes the conscious decision to get back on track.

Other than that:
The time heist was super cool
Hulk was fucking jarring
Hawkeye turned out to be way more compelling than he ever was, which was really nice
Cap doing wombo combos with Mjiolnir got me giggling like a damn schoolgirl
Nat's death actually hit me like a brick
Tony's was even worse, in the good sense. His heroic arc is unparalleled in Hollywood recent memory. Iron Man is our generation's absolute best hero.

7/10 movie by itself
10/10 conclusion to the MCU

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>There's NO WAY to make the movie work (aka bring back the dead) without it mate

>stones scatter like Dragon Balls after the snap
>movie is about collecting them again to undo it
Bam, done. Although the time travel was done more as a meta element to reminisce about the old movies and give the OG characters more focus and development rather than strict story reasons.

Alright you make a good point haha

Add an extra 10-20 minutes of characters talking that didn’t interact much in IW. Ex. Ant man and Spider-Man, Cap and Strange, etc.

>Have Stark and Hank Pym meet
>Red Skull and Cap meet
>One scene of the Defenders walking out of a portal...maybe the SHIELD crew too
Honestly it's not a perfect film,but it's damn good...Nat's sacrifice and Stark's funeral hit me hard :(

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How do they defeat Thanos and his army if the stones are destroyed after the unsnap

>One sacrifice was enough
There was two in the movie alone.

Kick back and let CAROL do it
I'm kidding of course

At the end I mean. Black Widow got her moment, and Iron Man too.

>war machine joins tony and pepper in their wombo combo attack, and he gets a segment during the gauntlet run

>Captain America doesn't completely go against his character about moving on and fuck off into the past

>Give banner a scene during the final battle

kys

I was really curious about how they'd prove to Thanos he was wrong, when Cap starting talking about how earth is actually getting kind of better after the snap I hoped they'd touch upon the morals of both sides, but then they just made Thanos even more crazy with the "I'll remake the universe to my liking" and tossed all that moral stuff out.
Your idea is shit, though.

>>Captain America doesn't completely go against his character

He doesn't.

>Captain America doesn't completely go against his character about moving on and fuck off into the past
The whole point about about his "moving on" bits is that he's advising others about it, but he himself ironically isn't able to do so.

He talks about it with Sam in Winter Soldier.
He fantasizes about the past in Ultron, he talks about it with Tony too.
Two films are devoted to him trying to save his old best friend.
After all this time he still has a locket with Peggy in it.

Duty came first, but he clearly always longed for the life that was taken from him after WWII.

I'm sure it's been said, but
>Earth at 3.5 billion people for 5 years
>suddenly 7 billion people again
How are they dealing with the mass starvation happening shortly after Endgame?
Wakandan super-science? Magic?

Dr. Hulk grabs the gauntlet and says: "Since Nat aint coming back, Im gonna make you go away for good." -snap-

>Hulk loses the arm but Tony makes one for him out of vibranium.

Literally any buildup for Nat's death. They just threw her away. I'm not exactly gonna miss Scarlett but damn I actually felt nothing

this was honestly on my mind, garbage piling in the streets looked like earth was in economical and industrial collapse
then suddenly everyone reappears, what do

>uuuh honey, this is suzan, i'm sorry i really thought you were gone for good...

All that needed reconstruction will create an economical boom.
And I assume the food production is still enough to feed everyone in the world, just like now, they only need to distribute it better and stop throwing excedent into the garbage can. Maybe that will be the start of a true socialist world, idk.
Or they can use ant-man tech to make food bigger, there's lot of ways they can bullshit the food shortage away.

>7/10 movie by itself
>10/10 conclusion to the MCU

fucking this

Actually you're the retard.
Past cant change future.
End of movie the past changes the future.
Hurr durr.

>End of movie the past changes the future
how

>Wakandan super-science? Magic?
Uh, yeah? No really, this is a setting where wizards can just create matter from nothing and nanotech exists. They'll be fine.

captain america travels to the PAST and ages and is old in the PRESENT.

>accidentally steps on a button
>saves all of humanity
Why haven't you recognized the true hero of the film?

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to be fair it took 5 goddamn years for something that random to happen

Nick Fury, Maria Hill and the remnants of Shield joining the final fight in the Helicarrier.

Iron Man actually has the Proton Cannon.

Like a really minor background cameo of the Punisher or Daredevil.

>Have Cap die in the final clash against Thanos, I felt his reunion with Peggy was too saccharine for a character who is built around the concept of sacrifice.
>Have Thor and Loki interact on Asgard, the fact that the Russos ignored their relationship almost entirely was pretty weird to me.
>Take out the Girl Power shot, it didn't serve much purpose other than being a callback to a line from IW.
It was still a pretty fun movie though, and I didn't really have any major issues.

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In the scene where Cap and Thor trade weapons, you can see Mantis in the background climbing one of the big aliens and putting it to sleep.

Remove captain marvel, start the movie with a longer scene focusing on the development of tony and nebulas relationship. Either have him hack her into the sip to fly it home or send a beacon to earth to get picked up. Its important to have him learn about nebulas backstory and what Thanos did to her. Have past nebula destroy the ship as a fuck you to her father and have thor piss off hulk enough to get him to have the last punch em up with thanos then end it with tonys snap destroying thanos and restoring Nebula

Time travel was easy enough, after all there's a Time Stone. And there's the kicker. They didn't need to go on an Easter Egg hunt for all the Stones, they merely needed to get a copy of the Time Stone, which turned out to be the easiest to obtain really. Once they had that they could just undo Thanos destroying the other stones, which was, after all, something they should know since he did it in the last fight to bring back Vision and the Mind Stone. So get a copy of the Time Stone, restore all the original stones including that Time Stone, give the borrowed one back to the Ancient One. This way they avoid a huge mess of time travel, they don't let a version of Loki escape with the Space Stone, they don't create any more alternate realities, they don't run the risk of Thanos finding out and have to go toe to toe with his entire army and risk everyone they just restored. It's a much shorter film. They also don't get a new alternate reality Gamora but oh well.

This leads me to wonder if you could use the Time Stone to undust people, too. I'm sure not on the same scale without all the stones working together, but you could probably do so on an individual basis. Doc Strange fixed all kinds of shit with it so if they need an expert and can't convince the Ancient One to take a field trip to help them they could aways undust Strange.

Of course this doesn't fix anything with the plot. If you change it to this they'd find another way to add in more conflict. Like Nebula goes back to the Battle of New York instead of Morag and gets caught by Thanos of that time.

>because he would be in alternative timeline instead the original timiline.
No he wouldn't if he came back to his timeline and stuck there and lived in it. Time doesn't have to work the way we want it to - Captain can both not exist and exist at the same time, as a guy who both was left in the ice and travelled back to just live his life.

I think the "girl power" moment would have been better if instead of having literally every female character randomly appear it was just Scarlet Witch that came to help. Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch are the two most powerful female characters so just having them working together obliterating Thanos troops and some fun dialogue between the two of them would have been way better.

Also it should have been fucking Bucky that got to be the new Captain America. Caps entire trilogy revolves around Bucky and it would have been the perfect end to his arc. He could finally stop being the weapon Winter Soldier and become the hero Captain America. It makes no sense at all for it to be Falcon. He hasn't earned it and he isn't even a super soldier, just some normal guy with flight gadgets.

I've seen some claims it was subversive. After all, Captain Marvel could have soloed her way through the entire army no problem, she did just one-punch Thanos' entire doomship and no sold attacks he'd previously used to beat the goddamn Hulk into submission. Every other female hero showing up, the claim goes, a bit of a slap at Marvel that they already had a shit ton of female heroes before Carol essentially rendered the lot of them largely superfluous without plot contrivance sidelining Carol a la the movie sending Poochie back into space because all these other planets needed her.

TO have fun dialogue requires a likable actor, which brei is the opposite of. Besides Olson is pissed at brie, not only does she get her own movie but she gets more screen time than she does.

And I agree that winter soldier should be the next cap, Falcon has a name and a presence all his own they should build that rather than try to saddle him as just another legacy hero

Not canon, retard

He didn't seem to want the job, and that makes sense. He's still dealing with a shitton of issues being a Hydra weapon, despite the work done to help him in Wakanda. Consider how he just accepted his lot in life when offered a new arm. He knew he was going straight back into being a weapon in someone else's struggle.

Sam at this point represents hope and trying to live up to the ideals of what being Captain America means and what the name means to the country and world. Bucky would end up being angst and worrying no matter how much he tries to live up to the ideas of what being Captain America means he can't wipe out the red in his own ledger, thanks Natasha. I don't really mind what they did as long as he's not dropped and instead helps Sam live up to the Captain America mantle, serving much the same role he did for Steve without having to just follow in Steve's footsteps.

This thread is full of bad ideas but this takes the cake for the worst one

This person here don't sleep
and always the first to respond

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Did anyone besides Wanda see him restore Vision? I think everyone else was busy having been beaten. Not that it's the reason she was taken out of the equation. She did pretty damn good against him (when he didn't have the gauntlet) and it was so much more satisfying than seeing him manhandled by an emotionless android like Carol. Everything he did to her and Vision and she finally got to cut loose. I'm sure some people find it inconsistent since she struggled with the Black Order goons, but let's say Thanos inspired her to put so much more effort into her powers than she probably previously thought possible.

My biggest issue was Thanos. Kind of just feels like they reverted his character arc from the last movie. At the start of IW he loved being a villain and killing people, by the end he hated it and saw it as a tragic thing he was forced to do by his own morals. Then they just go straight sympathy-less supervillain in this movie

>Besides Olson is pissed at brie

Fake news.

>No time travel
This, unless your movie is specifically about time travel leave that shit at the door.

In no particular order:
1. Carol provide better reasons for not helping them more often throughout the movie. Yeah, there's other planets, but Earth is her motherfucking homeworld and dealing with an end of the world scenario, it made zero sense she'd leave and only shows up to blow up Thanos' ship,
2. Steve reunites, or at the very least learns Red Skull is still alive. I know storywise it wouldn't work, but I really wanted that to happen.
3. Time travel rules cleaned up a bit. What I mean by this is: the entire movie essentially hinges on Thanos discovering their plan via past Nebula who somehow synced up with present Nebula, yet somehow, when present Nebula literally kills her past self, nothing happens. So there's literally no explanation as to how their wi-fi thingys connected other than utter plot convenience.
4. Thor and Rocket go back to Ragnarok instead of The Dark World. Once again, makes no sense storywise, but I just wanted it to happen.
5. Tone down the jabs toward Scott. I get Paul Rudd's portrayal of him is rather goofy and stupid, but he's ultimately the main reason they all realize how to bring everyone back via the quantum realm, and he's just trying to help and get his family back like everyone else, so it annoyed me how everyone especially Tony acted like a dick toward him and rarely even recognize him as a member of the team despite how useful he is.

That all being said, I loved the living hell out of this movie. The past 11 years have been nothing short of an experience. My biggest fear is it only goes down from here, unless they do some really crazy shit like Secret Wars, X-Men vs. New Avengers ten years down the line or some shit.

>unless your movie is specifically about time travel
It.... literally was though? Half the movie took place in different times. lmao

Kill off Carol

>when Cap starting talking about how earth is actually getting kind of better after the snap I hoped they'd touch upon the morals of both sides

I think they made it clear. The earth had gotten a little better but by and large everyone was miserable because of their lost family and friends. And expecting people to just treat it like a math equation and forsake everyone because "Welp at least the planet and resources will be better, forget those guys" is something only a psycho like Thanos would do.

Also Earth seems like it was opened up to the greater universe, seeing as aliens like Rocket and Nebula could walk around in broad daylight as well as the Asgardians parked there.

So those kinds of resources can help with that.

>Make thor’s Subplot a bit more dramatic, don’t have him be fat, depression isn’t funny, fuck you,
>remove that girl power shot, you know you haven’t earned it at all
>Steve doesn’t go back in time, he just retires.
>Thanos doesn’t die in the first 20 minutes, he follows the avengers through time and meets his past self and they work together.That’d make everybody nut and you know it.
>give nat a funeral just before they assemble that gauntlet

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I think he meant that the Avengers at its core isn't about time travel, so bringing that up in the last movies of the series.. i don't know, it could have been something else. I really liked the time heist, but a time machine is outside the scope of everything the franchise had done yet.

inb4 the time fuckery in Dr. Strange, it's related to the time stone (already more MCU-like) and used within hard limitations.

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Have Thanos hiding the stones and the heroes going on a journey to collect them

A reverse Infinity War in a way

Dehydration
Get high first.

>Defenders
Cancelled and not canon. Only Disney+ shit will be canon.

Did Hulk do anything in the final battle? He was there but I don't remember seeing a moment where he was actually fighting.

His left arm was fucked, he couldn't fight at full strength anyway

I remember he batted oene dude away and was like “we need to get the stones back where they came from!”
He also held up the avengers facility when they were about to drown
But no, no real stand out moments
He did bring everyone back thi

IMO the final showdown needed
>More Strange, have him rematch the reality bending alien
>More hulk, have him get really angry and let Hulk take full control and fight Thanos
>More Thor, have a closer 1v1 with thanos
>cree space ships come in
>SHIELD aircraft carriers come in with Nick Furry commanding them in the sky
>give more characters some screen time. Quill, Drax, Groot, Bucky, BP
>Some scene where like 10 Avengers and Guardians go up against Thanos
>powerdown Captiam Marvel

CM was the worst thing in the fight. For her I would have it so she comes in leading SHIELD aircraft carriers and jet fighters and goes directly into battle. She's powered down and has to actually be a team player not a demiGod. Either that or have her crash into the ship but in doing so she is severely weakened and damaged for the of the fight.
Also they should have played this song youtube.com/watch?v=FOabQZHT4qY while Strange was warping everyone into battle. They should have had like a 3-4 minute build up showcasing everyone. The whole point of the movie was nostalgia and remembering all the good times.

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yeah but basically everyone else had at least one moment of a fight scene, I know some people are complaining about how he didnt get a rematch with thanos but I'm fine with that since he unsnapped everyone. I just don't remember him doing anything after Scott drops him in

I don't know wouldn't you be pissed if someone came in at the last second to steal your thunder? Carol got more screen time and a longer fight against thanos than olson despite having no stakes in the plot. Hell she detracted from the movie a lot, I finally realized my problem with her (you know besides the fact that shes insufferable) Marvel was never meant to have a "superman" the entire point of the universe was that Hulk was the strongest and that was terrifying for the people of earth, being held hostage by beings of there own creation. carol coming in whenever it's convenient for her and poorly emoting a win under cuts that

it really is weird we didn't get a rocket reunion with everyone, and he's just back with them, kind of jarring. i guess that's for the third guardians movie

Absolutely terrible.

End fight wasn't bad but i had an idea of it that would be near the comic with the scene before the portals
>cap braces his shield stands up straight
>thanos says it's over
>cap walks all the way to him just as close as the comics
>i can do this all day
>bold words for a dead man
>cap receives the falcon call on your left
>thanos gets hit by something and gets knocked back
>portals arrive scene resumes just like originally

>make the ending battle 2x as long
>include nick and any other shield agents
>show big ant man do more in the final battle
Quick question, why do the giant flying monsters move 'normally' but ant man(being roughly the same size) moves like some slow motion cause he's so big un shiet?
>show the guardians do more in the final battle
>recast carol
All these "you're just an incel who likes to bully girls" posters seem to literally care for captain marvel in no way but are disgustingly obsessed with brie. I think it's been established within this board that the majority of us don't hate the character, just the actress. Why do these bootlickers love brie more than their own mothers? It's as pathetic as using incel as an insult over the internet.
Back to the main theme
>recast that garbage child actor that played tonys daughter
Thats all I can thing of at the moment.

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Have sex

This phrase might actually make me leave this gay place once and for all. Not you saying it this time specifically but the absolute obsence amount its been used in the last two months.

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>When they go back to Avengers 1 NYC, the Ancient One tells Banner that "Dr. Strange is currently performing surgery a few blocks from here"
>Dr. Strange was performing surgery during an alien invasion

You really have a problem with that? it's totally in character for someone like strange to not let an invasion stop him.

It would be kind of interesting if MCU Earth gets more and more unrecognizable as the movies continue until it becomes full scifi/cyberpunk everywhere and not just what the heroes and villains have.

I was kind of hoping that Janet would show up and do some insane cosmic bullshit due to the vague powers she got from being in the Quantum Realm for like thirty years.

I'd have the Avengers actually get damaged in the final battle, maybe some in danger of being killed before the snap. For an intergalactic group of conquerors, Thanos army sure was weak as shit

The last fight needed to have the sense of urgency and danger that IW had.

The Avengers had more powers and more help this time around and Thanos had less. The victory just doesn't feel as hard earned. It's not even the same Thanos.

Don't expect it and you'll be fine

>5. Tone down the jabs toward Scott.
this
fucking nebula calling him an idiot for no reason?
FUCKING WAR MACHINE the useless crippled shit looking down on him?

Cap learned the life Stark wanted him to live. In that sense, he is built around sacrifice until he learned to be someone for himself too, and he decides to do it in the end.

I'm alright with this but we need to keep Rocket's jabs
>Hes like a little puppy! Do you want to go to space puppy?
I'm dissapointed that Scott didn't go to space after that

We do.

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Aside from my 4channel complaints, I wanted to see Prof Hulk fight someone. Could be Thanos, could be the big guy alien, I don't care. I went into the MCU being a Hulk fan but I sure as hell aren't going out one.

Also, why the fuck was Ross at Tony's funeral?

You want him to stop in the middle and guarantee the patient dies?

WHAT IS THE HIPPOCRACTIC OATH

agreed

Tony Stark should be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine

>I'm not exactly gonna miss Scarlett but damn I actually felt nothing
>Ah damn, Hawkeyes gotta go
>Huh, that turned out better than expected

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he might have been doing surgery on people getting hurt during the invasion

OFFICIAL MCU POWER RANKINGS (This is based on their full potential)

1. Scarlet Witch
2. Dr. Strange
3. Vision
4. Hulk
5. Captain Marvel
6. Thor
7. Ant Man
8. Black Panther
9. Iron Man
10. Spider Man
11. Captain America
12. War Machine
13. Bucky
14 - N-1. the rest
N. Falcon

Explain why you think people are always targeting Carol Danvers for being a strong girl when Wanda Maximoff exists?

Well?

> wanda over strange

Found the incel

Yes. Yes it was.

vision and strange literally have infinity stones in their full potential

cause wanda displays tiddy and isn't a scary feminist probably

All of the top 5 except for Hulk get their powers from infinity stones.

She was barely even in the movie. It seemed like the directors either didn't want her or they weren't quite sure what to do with her, so they sent her off to Poochie's home planet.

same desu. i didn't watch cap marvel with fear of how boring she supposedly was but I enjoyed her scenes in Endgame.

i assume getting your power from a stone is less powerful than literally wielding the stone in your head or necklace

we know that destroying the stones doesn't unpower you, at least, since carol still has hers

Alternate universes instead of time travel.

Why is Falcon so low? Eh seems like a pretty cool guy.

More Doctor Strange in the final battle.

It’s cool that they showed, what I’m assuming was, the Icy Tendrils of Ikthalon being used when he finally joins the battle. I just wanted more

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This desu, there wasnt realy a philosophical back and forth, and Thanos kind of just turned into the big bad saying before it was "Its nothing personal, i dont like killing, but its a necessity" but in the big clash Thanos is all "Im going to enjoy destroying your planet now". It went from a ind of neat guy who legitametly thought he was doing the right thing to having a petty motive. I dont mind that he wanted to restart the universe, but he became a lot more one dimentional with that line.

I actualy dont care about Larson's personal stuff, but damn, she was just nothing in this movie. The same could be said about the black panther crew, but at least they just were not very involved.

Marvel's whole character development was just people saying I like her. And she is super powerful while contributing didly dick to the movie besides im strong.

Do you read the comics? to be fair, yes the comics and the mcu are two distinct things, but Scarlet is almost always portrayed as reality altering, nigh on god levels of power, while marvel is more superman; flying durable strong and lazors.

If Falcon is at the bottom then where's Hawkeye?

i'm entirely going off what we've seen in the mcu, since wanda isn't a mageto daughter or a mutant. unless they pull a retcon when they absorb the xmen franchise

at the haircut shop.

They find Thanos.
"I got rid of the stones, sent them to other dimensions"
Using the Quantum Realm they enter other dimensions to get them, a bunch of what ifs
Nazis won
Loki won
Dark elves won
Etc
Assemble stones, Thanos shows up, big epic fight
When Carol shows up, she brings other races to fight Thanos' fleet
Tony dies

this would actually be really good and comicbooky, you could have a lot of the same interactions too.

Strange, Cap M, Ant Man - those are the big boys
Thor, Hulk, SWitch, IMan are mid tier
Vision is useless

would be better, don't switch for a different Thanos
But they made the time travel the focus specifically to have those emotional and character moments of Tony with his dad, Cap still being a virgin etc

>no scenes of Scott showing off his close up magic to Doctor Strange

I forgot, Steve's virginity was the source of his powers

steve could go to a dimension where he died on the plane. tony could go to a dimension where his parents are in robot bodies or something

but vision has the magic lemon

Would the Dragon Balls rule work in Endgame? Use all the stones at once and then they reapear all around the universe? Only nobody realizes this until Carol, Rocket or Nebula accidently finds one of stones? At least we skip all the time traveling confusion.

What was It about Wanda that made Thanos stop in his tracks?
He didn't really hesitate to fight anyone else but something about the Witch spooked him enough to stop running

AHHHH CORVUS HALP

Chaos magic

it's scarlet telekinesis

her beautiful titties, only reason I went to see AoU, IW and EG on the big screen. sad i missed CW.

witch almost stopped him in the last movie, so he probably remembers her

I still don't get why hulk didn't heal from the snap burn in a matter or seconds or minutes.

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This. More Scott in general.

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She normally isn't that powerful since during Infinity War she struggled against only a few of the Black Order. Forcing her to kill Vision then unwinding that only to kill him again clearly had an effect on her power potential. She basically went NO MORE THANOS.

This is actually not her first time. She fucked up Ultron after her brother died, after all.

Something as powerful as the gauntlet shouldn't be made cheap. Hulk shouldn't be able to tank it or just be fine otherwise instead of people complaining his arm was in a sling we'll see people complaining why he doesn't keep the stones and solve every problem with it. Ancient One gets pissy about her timeline? He snaps himself into her reality and then snaps it into a utopia, tells her she's welcome, and then snaps away again.

You don't want that level of power to be cheap, that's why it always had a huge physical toll. People consider the gamma released as something that should have healed or made a Super Hulk rather than the gamma being the only thing that allowed him to survive at all.

Tony needed to use the Proton Cannon at least once before dying.

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>You don't want that level of power to be cheap, that's why it always had a huge physical toll.
This. The MCU took what could have felt like a cop-out instant fix reality warper, and gave it an actual toll so it doesn’t feel cheap.

it would make iron man look like a wimp for dying of it

I remember people didn't like the Gauntlet being so messed up after he used it in Infinity War, with all kinds of talk that the Gauntlet was flawed or Thanos didn't really understand how to use the Stones effectively. I think that last one may have also been a Russo interview tidbit, but it's been awhile so I can't say for sure. Ultimately it was just a good move.

One reason I hate Captain Marvel. When you no sell the attacks of a guy who beat the hulk into submission where the hell do you go from there? In her two movie appearances she single handedly and with ridiculous ease wiped out two alien ships capable of destroying/subjugating worlds. She takes all threat from the villains and kicks it harder in the nuts than Gamora did Star-Lord. I mean where does she possibly go from here? Granted since she was being thrown into the deep end of a major film that culminated years of development she had to skip the normal powercreep from gradual upgrading that Tony or Thor went through - but they took her way too far. Worst part is you could forgive her power level if she was a fun character but the actress has less emotion than a Soong-type android.

same way you write a movie with superman in it

can we talk about something else now

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You missed the point. Superman works when he has a compelling actor. That's the deal with powerful characters. You can forgive them if they're enjoyable to watch regardless. Typically it's his humanity that appeals to people, which is a reason Snyder gets shit on quite a bit for feeling a godlike alien must be Jesus not realizing that Jesus' thing was being human. Also people do shit on Justice League where once Supes shows up the villain becomes a punching bag.

>can we talk about something else now
This is a "how would you fix it" thread. People will talk about what they wish could be changed to "fix" the movie or a character in it. Deal with it.

Fix CM's nasty dyke haircut
Additional scene from 2012 where Tony realizes that he saved Peter Parker's life in the New York attack, making him finally realize why the kid adores him so much
Go all out with the final battle and have Loki and Ultron also come in from the past and have the antagonists from the previous 3 Avengers movies in a four way fight for the Gauntlet

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>I remember people didn't like the Gauntlet being so messed up after he used it in Infinity War, with all kinds of talk that the Gauntlet was flawed or Thanos didn't really understand how to use the Stones effectively

From this fact, I immediately guessed that the heroic sacrifice in Endgame would be the Gauntlet killing any human that used it

if scarlet witch or carol put the gauntlet on and snapped, what would happen? since they are gauntlet powered

>Do you read the comics? to be fair, yes the comics and the mcu are two distinct things, but Scarlet is almost always portrayed as reality altering, nigh on god levels of power

That's literally two stories. By Bendis. It's not how she's normally written.

ded

I would shoot some serotonin to my brain to be able to enjoy stuff that would have made me hyped and cry out of joy if I had watched it at least 4 years ago

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Would have just fixed Thor with the de-aging machine
Gag got old too fast.

Die like tony

Thor?

>4 years younger Thanos from different timeline who never met her (as he explicitly stated) remembers her

Girl power scene wasn't actually to pander to feminists, but judge how the audience would react to a girl team up movie

>CM's nasty dyke haircut
best part of the movie

>People didn't like Big Lethorwski
Hitting too close to home, huh?

She was full rage mode, and was about to tear Thanos apart. Scarlet Witch is a bit of a class cannon, except instead of just cannon=big powerful blast, she has direct telekinetic/chaos magic control. Thanos had no counter for that except to “rain fire” in order to force her to take cover and allow him to escape.

Why couldn't scarlet witch just chaos magic the rockets coming down as well?

Give some moments to guardians.

There would be a Rule 63 scene.

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She’s ultimately a human with limited focus, and access to a powerful ability. She could chaos magic the missiles, but then she’d still have to take her eye off of Thanos. I didn’t see her red energy in the wide shot, so I’m forced to assume she hid under the sorcerers’ shields.

Kill someone she loves, and she opens up her 8th Gate Bankai. She popped ultron like an adamantium tin can after her brother, and for her Vision died twice, like an hour ago.

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I was hoping for some crazy Hulk shit. Ant-Man was great though.

okay, but this in you could have a great casting gag with a bunch of actors and musicians cameoing as genderswapped avengers

I actually liked the A-Force thing

At least Hydra and Kree didnt go full kick the heroes while they are down as we see in AoS where they worked to stop Thanos.

I'm okay with the time traveling, feel like I'm one of the few, but there was still plenty of other issues.
>Remove Carol, she has no place in the story and stands out like a sore thumb
>Scale back the "humor" by like half, the world is largely in ruin and people are desperate, keep that tone that was established in the first 20 minutes of the movie
>Don't turn Thor in to a straight up joke character, "the dude" outfit should not have happened.
>Give 2014 Thanos a good 20-30 minutes more screen time for him to be more fleshed out about his change of plans due to having knowledge about the changes of the timeline, include more scenes with him and his daughters since that also was never that fleshed out.
EG was a solid 6/10, with those changes alone could be a 8/10

DoFP style realities would have made Thanos felt like a villain by making the Avenger face the realities where they fail. As Cap helps a doomed resistance get the the space stone. Nebula and Rocket tryimg get the power stone from a Ronan controlled Kree Empire that liberally uses the power stone on planets that pisses him off and the Time Stone in the hands of Dormannu who plays around with it

>Dormannu killing all salespeople, executives, lawyers, anyone who would ever use the word 'bargain' in his presence

They have a time machine now. One that works with Pym particles which, unless those hacks fucking retcon that, are way too plentiful .

How I'd fix Stark's death since it was pretty idiotic no one was able to kill Thanos:
>Thanos dies by way of axe.
>Another Thanos comes and dies by way of bitch that no one likes.
>Another Thanos comes.
>Stark uses the gauntlet to erase all the Thanos and associates in that timeline cluster.

>Another Thanos comes and dies by way of bitch that no one likes.
don't be mean to scarlet witch

Change the name to "Ant-Man and the Time Heist"

Turn it into a porn "parody".

I'd just add a bunch of extra bits to the final battle

>Strange VS. Maw rematch
>Valkyrie kills Corvus
>Hulk destroys a thresher (did we even have threshers this time?)
>War Machine buster
>Drax getting a few licks in with Thanos
>Cap/Cap tag-team

The Dragon Ball Z anectode just fucking sucks mate and it's lazy.

shots of the Baxter building post credits

Instead of destroying all the stones, Thanos keeps the Soul stone and Time stone. Using the time stone Thanos foresees the Avengers killing him and accepts it, but before he is decapitated he uses the Soul Stone to keep him alive as ghost and haunts the Avengers of and on for the rest of the movie, eventually haunting his past self and ridiculing him for his eventual failure.

Have Thor skull fuck Captain Marvel to death

>too convoluted
Endgame has really revealed how many brainlets are on this board, you couldn’t understand how time travel works in a kids movie after it’s explained multiple times

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> brainlets who bitch about thor understand how much he was in survivor guilt and went full lazy alcoholic for FIVE years

Damn, that's actually pretty genius it'd definitely make Thanos's death and Past Thanos's presence more meaningful

Add hulk smashing, remove feminist scene
t. a chad

>add man with gun and man with nunchuk
absolutely retarded, why do you think both hawkeye and black widow didnt show up in the big final battle ?

daredevil would even be ale to "see" in the final battle considering once some c tier villain used a megaphone to make him deaf

pre magic r Strange helping anyone at all is fucking retarded, his whole character was about being a rich selfish son of a bitch

this, I mean, they would be pretty useless, but if Howard the Duck with a gun was there, they could be there too

Lmao the winter soldier as the new captain America? Thats going to go over well

>lol random bad guy can completely control winter soldier.
Muh white captain America

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ooh thats good

>power ranking
>cool
Those are totally different things
I don't dislike Falcon, but he sucks ass compared to everybody else, and he should learn how to fucking shave properly desu

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this is pretty cool

he literally says to her: I don't even know who you are

he probably stopped in his tracks because she was flying, surrounded by energy, and landed right in his face

100% this
we needed more time of Thanos figuring out some shit or planning a more clever way to win with all the new knowledge he got from the future

and then the ghostbusters 2016 team joins the fight? get the f outta here!

>Falcon last
??????????????????

It was sitting there as a checkov's gun in the workshop too

>the ghostbusters 2016 team
living in your head rent free, incel?

nice buzzword you got there

not a buzzword if it's true sweetie

Weren't they having a sort of romantic tension thing going on for a bit when they teamed up together in the comics?

I think that was a reference to that.

Reality Stone: Dark Elf controlled earth where life struggles to survive as Malekith liberal use of the Aether has render all life bare

Mind Stone: Loki controlled reality where he mind controls all of the population to loyalty.

Soul Stone: ???

Technically the time travelling is taking place in alternate universes

Make hulk cooler.
Thor not far.
Clint die instead of Nat

These changes would objectively fix the movie:
>Remove fat Thor. Instead, after killing Thanos, Thor entrusted leadership of New Asgard to that valkyrie chick and started wandering through Europe. Have him stop wearing his false eye but keep that he's a drunkard. For five years he just wanders, drinking and fucking criminals up. When Hulk finds him he's living in a tent surrounded by "worshippers" who he ignores just pounding beers, make it an homage to that scene in the Ultimates. Thor's personality is just mega-depressed and sort of edgy.
>Have Thor encounter his old self on Asgard and fight him to take back Mjolnir. It didn't make much sense to have Thor just steal it from him, how would the hammer determine who is more worthy? With a bout of course.
>Be more clear on the time travel rules.
>Have old Cap have the last talk with Bucky and give the shield to him rather than to Falcon.
>When Tony dies a teary-eyed Cap gives him a nod and tells him that he's proud of him or simply thanks him, have Thor also present at the send-off
>Also have a memorial for Black Widow or a funeral scene shown for her even it its just quietly among the Avengers
>Give Ant-Man a little less screen time
>In the end include a scene where Peter offers a position on the crew to Thor after seeing how low his losses have taken him
The rest of it is honestly quite good. I was surprised with how much I enjoyed the movie. Fat Thor was the biggest mistep.

Asking here because it's pointless making a new thread. Is there some sort of universal translator in these movies, or are we supposed to believe all these aliens just happen to speak English?

I can't believe people don't like fat Thor. The guy opens a beer with the Stormbringer; that's like genuinely funny.

Are you the same faggots who want him to just be a stoic mass of muscles making condescending quips all day? Why?

gotg and captain marvel both mention translators

honestly the only thing I would do is make it longer, which introduces its own set of problems
its honestly a satisfying ending to 11 years of buildup
far from perfect but it was good
also I would have kept Cap around but this is honestly a better ending than having himself sacrifice in another movie

Superman actually has an heroic personality tho, so you can challenge him on a moral level.
It's hard to picture Carol caring about anything but results.

Too much shit for one movie. Should have been two. Everything feels rushed and you get no time to care about anyone or anything. It's hard to get invested.

Hawkeye is a mass murder now - oops no time for that let's ignore it and recruit him back onto the team because....we need him?

Prof Hulk was cool to see, but it was unnecessary and felt tacked on. No cool fight scenes for him.

Lebowski Thor was stupid. Why is there so much goofy comedy forced into this drama about an entire universe mourning the deaths of half its people? What tone is this movie going for?

Leave Tony Alone. Pym should have worked with Banner to crack time travel. I like Tony being a super genius, it works, but you have other geniuses, spread that shit out a little. Plus Pym is a great character, and it's his fucking technology. Tony is like, nope guys can't help sorry, and the next morning he drives over and jumps into a portal.

Thanos was the best part of infinity war. Great character. Here he's a jobbing bitch in the present, and a one-note asshole in the past. "I am inevitable"? "It's not personal, but now it is"? That shit is so cringy.

Captain America's passing a kidney stone face in the final fight. Somebody get a director over here to teach this guy how to look hurt and desperate without looking like he's taking a post thanksgiving shit.

How cool would it have been to end up with two Nebulas?

More Captain Marvel. Yes, you fucks, she's a badass. Fite me.

Tony didn't have to stay dead. Soul stone does what now? Nanotech does what? I know the glove fucks everybody up who wears it, but Hawkeye was able to hold the soul stone. Bring Tony back.

Widow and Hawkeye seriously debating which one of them should die. Its like dude, you're trying to get your kids back, throw that bitch over the cliff. You're a psychotic murder now, embrace it.

That would be really cool

Can't believe the fucking second Deadpool movie had a better death scene and time travel than this

I actually liked when Thanos sent her face to the ground with the power stone.

Remove
>Tony and Steve going back to the 70's
It added filler to an already bloated section of the film

Add
>At least one more fight scene, larger scale than Cap v Cap but smaller than anything in Infinity War
>One more true Hulk fight. Maybe combine this with the previous point
>A few more minutes mourning Tony (and Nat). They were Avengers for years and next to no one shed a tear at the funeral.
>Hulk soul stone scene like Thanos got
>Maybe a few shots of Cap returning the stones and deciding to stay.
>Coulson cameo

Change
>Cap passing the mantle to Sam to Bucky
>Cap appears back on the platform to solve any possible plotholes instead of sitting on the bench
>Tony's holograph speech didn't feel like a good send off
>Keep some of the tension from Cap and Tony's first meeting in the film to their second.
The sloppiest part of the Russo films by is that Cap and Tony flipflop between friends and being at each other's throats faster than teenage girls.
>The explanation for why they couldn't use the present Infinity Stones. Them being used to basically destroy themselves doesn't feel right

Why was Brie at Tony's Funeral? Also posing like a total douche in the stairs looking down at everyone?

Tony gets to live with his family, Cap dies using the gauntlet one last time to bring him back, tells them not to bring him back. The dancing with Peggy scene is from within the soul stone.

>Be more clear on the time travel rules.
Tone down your autism you too
>Have old Cap have the last talk with Bucky and give the shield to him rather than to Falcon.
>Cap passing the mantle to Sam to Bucky
Bucky doesn't want to fight anymore, and is still wanted globally.

>One more true Hulk fight. Maybe combine this with the previous point
>>A few more minutes mourning Tony (and Nat). They were Avengers for years and next to no one shed a tear at the funeral.
>>Hulk soul stone scene like Thanos got
These are good

>Tony gets to live with his family
>But RDJ is still gone after this so they pull a Fast and Furious on him and have him ride off into the sunset after splitting paths from Rhodey

Thank god you weren't involved in the films making

Instead of Carol taking the gauntlet and trying to run it to the van she would give it to Wasp and then go kick the living shit out of Thanos.