Would he have pulled off War Machine in subsequent MCU movies all the way to Endgame if he wasn’t an arrogant prick and decided to ask for more money to reprise his role for Iron Man 2?
Would he have pulled off War Machine in subsequent MCU movies all the way to Endgame if he wasn’t an arrogant prick...
Owen Brown
Isaac Gonzalez
Nah I'm glad they got Cheadle. He sells it better.
Dominic Edwards
Next time, baby
Mason Stewart
>if he wasn’t an arrogant prick and decided to ask for more money to reprise his role for Iron Man 2?
This is a common misconception that Terrence Howard was fired because he asked a pay raise
he was fire because he refused a pay cut and wanted the pay initially mentioned to him in the multi film contract he had signed when being cast for Iron Man 1
Terrence Howard was the biggest name attached to Iron Man 1 and Marvel studios then hoped he could help in the sequels for a potential War Machine storyline, so they decided to sign him with a total fee of 7 or 8 million dollhairs iirc
But when Marvel Studios realized Iron Man had became a surprise hit at the box office with praise showering towards RDJ performace, they reneged on the 7-8 million and instead low balled it to 4 Million realizing that Terrence would be dispensable to the franchise even if he refused
So Terrence turned that offered down and wanted to renegotiate better terms but Marvel Studios (I strongly suspect Ike Perlmutter here) just decided to drop him from the contract because it was not binding at Marvels end which Terrence Howard foolishly didnt realize
Parker Edwards
> "Two inch" Howard
Biggest bullet dodge marvel ever made
William Russell
He would've been a fun 90's black guy action movie throwback, which would've been better than Cheadle sleepwalking through these movies. I don't get why people seem to prefer Cheadle so much; it really feels more like they just don't like Howard in real life than them actually liking cheadle's performance.
Elijah Scott
>if he wasn’t an arrogant prick and decided to ask for more money
Why do people keep saying this?
Because its objectively wrong.
He got paid 4 million dollars for IM 1and had in his contract, if the movie got a sequel he would get 8 million dollars. The first movie was a massive success, and Marvel basically said no to his contract. Not only were they not giving him the 8 million promised, they lowballed him and tried to offer him around 2 million. Less money than he made in the first movie.
>people mad at Howard for Disney/Marvel trying to fuck him out of money he was promised
Also he was willing to take less than the 8 million in his contract, and was in negotiations with them over a new deal. Then they just hired Don Cheadle while still in negotiations with him.
>his real life buddy RDJ also didn't come to his defense
Reminder Howard is the one that talked Marvel into giving the Tony Stark role to RDJ. They didn't trust him since he was going through his drug issues at the time. But Howard vouched for him. I believe Howard to this day hates RDJ for not having his back like he had his.
Gavin Ward
Don Cheadle did an interview last week with Variety and he said he met Howard the day after Don got the role from him and he said he was cool with it and that there's no beef
Bentley Brooks
Speaking up against a huge pay cut for potentially a bigger part in the sequel is now arrogant?
Brody Lopez
Numbers never lie.
Isaiah Morales
I honestly think there was a low-key smear campaign against Howard. yeah he says some stupid shit but so does almost literally every other actor . does. Plus everyone spinning it like he asked for some outrageous sum when the truth was they wanted to pay him less for more work. Its the type of shit we rightfully hate on Perlmutter for doing when he had more control but for whatever reason its Howard who gets shit on instead of Perlmutter and company.
You can't even say it was a bad career move since Cheadle is barely in anything besides these movies(though to be fair, I see him and Gwyneth Paltrow as actors who were already planning on slowing down so these movie schedules eating up so much time isn't a big deal to them)
Xavier Baker
>arrogant prick
History revision. He either had to get a massive paycut or not be in the movie, he had no good options.
William Myers
>he fucking thought
Nolan Smith
I think he looks weird and has the voice of ten year old boy.
Justin Perry
Didn't Howard go nuts for a time after getting fired and tried to start his own form of mathematics or something?
Jaxon Nelson
Fuck you he stood up for himself and they knocked him down
Austin Garcia
The man's a shithead wife beater, but he was in the right for standing by and not agreeing to a pay cut.
Parker Brooks
I'm only just now finding this out. After finding out about other instances of Perlmutter's fuckery the last few days I feel bad for thinking Howard was just being greedy.
Cameron Taylor
>Terrence Howard
More like poor man's Cuba Gooding Jr.
Joshua Thompson
He has better chemistry with Downey than Don Cheadle.
Jaxon Jackson
Aiden Phillips
>How can it equal one? If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told its two, and that cannot be.
Owen Rodriguez
Cheadle seemed very standoffish with everyone.
Brandon Brown
>I was always wondering, you know, why does a bubble take the shape of a ball? Why not a triangle or a square? I figured it out
This is ridiculously. We already know why a bubble is a sphere
Camden Johnson
Nah dude, Cheadle IS Rhodey.
The "i'll make my own math" dude would have just tried to out-quip Tony in his every scene while making the life of everyone in the set a hell.
Jacob Reed
wow check all those seven man, there is at least like 42 of them!
Evan Adams
This, Howard is much better and energetic actor
Was excellent in IM
Landon Bennett
The man unironically thinks 1 x 1 = 2.
He literally argued with actual mathematicians that ONE TIMES ONE EQUALS TWO
As far as I trust his math skills, he probably thought the exact same pay was a cut.
Josiah Brown
This is the moment I think of whenever an actor talks about politics
Ethan Scott
Damn, legit stabbed in the back by his own friend, through i can somewhat understand it, back then RDJ's career was in the toilet, he just did this because for once he was finally getting work and now he owes not only his friend he backstabbed to his revival but he's now officially done with Marvel, he got to go out a huge hero, he got to leave it at it's highest moment, nothing they do now short of Galactus would ever have the impact this flim did and not once did he ever try to stick up for his friend or kill the narrative of him being fired by the just Marvel because how dare he demand more money for a project that's actually starting to grow legs after already taking a pay cut?
That's hollywood for you, nothing but traitors and pretenders
Blake Jenkins
>this guy was a bigger star than RDJR in 08-09
sometimes life can really fuck up your existence
Hunter Phillips
>Reminder Howard is the one that talked Marvel into giving the Tony Stark role to RDJ
It was Favreau who suggested RDJ
Camden Evans
Not the same guy but here the source
variety.com
Evan Mitchell
>Don Cheadle said he was given an hour to decide if we wanted to join the Avengers. And if the pressure wasn’t high enough already, he received the call while putting on his daughter’s birthday party.
>Cheadle said Robert Downey Jr. and producer Kevin Feige called him during his daughter’s birthday party to tell him that Terrence Howard wouldn’t be returning as War Machine. They gave Cheadle an hour to decide if he wanted to replace Howard. “‘You just gotta take a leap of faith,'” Cheadle remembered them saying. “But that’s, like, ten years. That could be 12 years that we’re talking about,” said Cheadle. “I said, ‘Well, I’m at my daughter’s birthday party.’ They said, ‘Oh, take two hours.'
>Cheadle said he coincidentally saw Howard the very next day. “We never had any beef,” he said. The actors have known each other for years, most notably working together for the Oscar-winning “Crash.”
variety.com
Joseph Cook
I wish Cuba Gooding Jr. was cast as Rhodey.
Michael Young
im still laughing