So what's the deal with her...

They used her for what they needed. You've been so caught up in fucking twitter arguments to see that. She saved Tony and Nebula, she destroyed Thanos' ship, she saved Peter, and she was strong enough that Thanos needed the Power Stone to overpower her. She's off saving other planets because she knows the Earth has the Avengers to protect it, the rest of the universe has basically jack shit. This is literally spelled out in the most simple way possible, so simple that even you, OP, should be able to understand it.

The Russos aren't upset at her character. The public backlash you want to believe there was is a minor thing relegated to 12-part youtube video rants and twitter bitching that the public at large doesn't actually care about. This simply wasn't her movie any more than it was Dr. Strange's movie or T'challa's movie or Peter's movie or Bucky's movie. It was the swansong for the original Avengers, especially for Tony and Cap. She was just a heavy-hitter who made sure Tony could be around to save the day.

You want to project your anger about her onto something and you're looking for excuses to do so. But the simple fact of the matter is that you're wrong about how you see this. Like says, even if there was some need to change things over some supposed backlash, they didn't have the time to do so.

>poor public response
>makes a gorillion
Absolutely, also buying all those seats for Cap marvel was a major factor. Btw she filmed Endgame before her solo.

/thead

>half of the remnants of God with power to warp the universe as we know it at will exist on this planet that shes from and should be familiar with
>Literally never checks on it

Stop going against the Yea Forums narrative.

Because she doesn't need to babysit the planet. The Earth has the Avengers.

You saw how easily she fought him. Thanos was no big deal really.

>>So they just deliberately made her completely irrelevant for 85% of the movie?
It's a movie about the original Avengers. She's there for the battle scene where they pass the torch.

lmao, yes OP, Disney frantically rushed a complete plot rewrite of Endgame in two months because you didn't like Captain Marvel.

The 'deal' is that she's ridiculously overpowered and the only way to include her in a movie and still have it make narrative sense is to only have her show up at the last minute.

So she's a plot device

>carol shits on everyone for jobbing
>jobs the hardest
>even fucking pepper was better than supersaiyanalienthot
like, I dont even like her, but she felt so hamfisted into the film, why even bother?

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but the stones are a big deal, and with half of them located on a single planet you'd think she'd check in occasionally as they are literally the most powerful objects in the universe

Does she know they are there?

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What? She is. That's not bait. She shows up to save Tony, and then fucks off until the last 20 minutes to blow up the ship that was glassing the battlefield

The stones are all destroyed by Thanos. The whole plot of the damn movie is the rest of the Avengers slipping into alternate timelines to steal alternate versions of the stones to use. For some reason, they did this without waiting for her to show up. She gets there about fifteen minutes after the Hulk snaps people back to life, which probably alerted her some shit was going on.

The first female movie should have been Natasha's. She's been there since IM2.

Considering she got her powers from the Tesseract and was a member of Starforce she had to know about them and the location of at least one

Im talking before Endgame, when the stones were very much in play

She doesn't shit on the Avengers. She literally shows she respects them.
She first saves Tony and Nebula at the beginning.
She saves the entire army of heroes from Thanos' ship.
She no-sells Thanos headbutting her.

She's a sledgehammer they use against targets that need it. She's used exactly as she should be used.

Not him but she kind of gives off the impression that she thinks The Avengers are rookies defending a backwater planet and she's doing all the important shit. Which I guess you can partly blame on Brie's attitude, I don't know. It's never great when a new character shows up to undermine the established cast

By the same logic ANTS is a plot device.
Just one that pissed his pants.

well, to be honest she did feel like a completely massive tool

No Scott actually contributed a lot to the film, and was there to bring faith back in the Avengers.
>Explains how The Quantum Realm works and gives the idea for the time heist
>Practically the only guy from the start to have any optimism
>Saved Hulk, Rocket, and War Machine.
Scott was there to get the ball rolling, and was the kick in their collective asses to try one last gambit. Cap was the first to support him

She doesn't though. She very clearly shows she respects the Heroes of Earth. But she can't be there to help deal with their problems every time because not every planet has a team of Avengers. If you want to interpret that as arrogance, that's on you, but the scene does not play out in that way in the slightest.

Only one that really came off like a tool was Starlord.

Do they know the tesseract is the space stone? Thor didn't till he went into thst weird well on aou

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>She was just a heavy-hitter
I've read it as "heavy-hitler" and it reminded me of that webcomic with fat Hitler rolling over jews

You would, fatty.

The answer is

based Russos

>She very clearly shows she respects the Heroes of Earth
You're welcome to think that too, it's just kind of sabotaged by Brie's performance.
>But she can't be there to help deal with their problems every time because not every planet has a team of Avengers
Yeah no one really cares because it's a hand wave explanation to bench her for nearly 2 hours. We keep HEARING about all the shit she does out in space but never see it. Show, don't tell, because ultimately all we get is a lot of off screen development that does nothing for the audience. We have zero frame of reference as to what Captain Marvel's presence is in the galactic community. With the GotG we know they're famous heroes who are mostly hired help, loved by some and hated by others given there actions/personalities. Carol? Fuck if I know

Honestly, she felt really lame in the movie. Like she did cool shit, but pretty much all the dialogue around her was:
>So why can't you help?
>I am helping
>Oh, ok then, makes sense
There wasn't any conflict between her and the Avengers, just quick dismissals and praise. Like it wasn't enough to ruin the movie for me or anything, but it just felt hamfisted and pointless overall.

>Hey, Peter Parker. Got something for me?

okay but what the hell did she mean by this

If they kept cutting over to such hypothetical scenes it would take away from the focus of the three hour long movie. It's explained as needed, and Carol comes in as needed. Plenty of people, a vast majority I'd say, are fine with that explanation because the movie isn't supposed to be about Carol, it's supposed to be about the original Avengers. You might as well demand they show how badly things have become in Wakanda.

Peter had a boner. You could see it through his suit. They tried to edit it out but it's still clearly there.

She meant his ass. Spider-ass. She wants to grab it.

wait are you joking or did peter really pop a boner?

Why did they make her so repugnant in this movie? She seemed okay to me in her own movie. But in this she acted like hot shit despite not doing much... and it didn't help that the other characters didn't seem to care about her ether. I was expecting everyone to have a lot of questions for her.

I understand that we couldn't do those scenes, that's not my point. Carol shouldn't even be in this movie to begin with given how tacked on she is and how little investment there is with her with what's happened already. You know that shot of all the heroines assembled to give Spider-Man a hand? Each and every one of them is better than Carol and had more reason to be there given the past few films. For example I'm super happy Wanda got her moment to shine kicking Thanos's ass, and arguably she probably could have destroyed that ship instead. Carol is just fucking there. Marvel desperately wants people to care about this character both in film and comics, yet for the most part reception has been "meh". I would have preferred her solo film and debut be after Endgame. It might have done her character some good

I don't think the Russo's disliked her, they just didn't know what to do with her.
It even seemed like she blew up Thanos' ship specifically because she blew up a lot of ships in her own movie.

Nah Carol is the best and everybody loves her. Keep seething.

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1. I never said Captain Marvel would flop. That's foolish. We all know Marvel films print money regardless of quality
2. Why try to paint a person as a sexist incel when they just praised other female cast members who did a good job?

Christ you can't even shitpost competently

It's not visible.

>she kind of gives off the impression that she thinks The Avengers are rookies defending a backwater planet and she's doing all the important shit.
Same... which also seemed weird to me since she specifically aims this at Rocket who is more known for intervening in the matters of planets besides Earth.

>the rest of the universe has basically jack shit.
No way this can be true. If a shitty place like earth got a bunch of people able to face Thanos, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of heroes in other systems.

Captain Marvel came out, like, one month before Endgame. They were WAY past even post production.

I remember this was my logic going in to Dragon Ball Super, with the universe tournaments they have, but it turns out pretty much everyone worth anything hangs out on earth and the rest of the universe didn't mean shit.

>poor public response

lol keep dreaming

For one thing the Russos didn't care about a one-off character only there to steal screentime. For another she has no character at all except being a smug cunt with infinite power.

>Carol shouldn't even be in this movie to begin with given how tacked on she is and how little investment there is with her with what's happened already.
Carol lost Fury to the Snap. She has a reason to be there to help stop Thanos because of that, and that's what they called her in to do. And she did that, both times. She didn't need to deliver the killing blow. But she had a reason to be there. You're clearly projecting your dislike of their push of the character onto this, when looking at it objectively she had exactly as much involvement as needed both for the pace the movie was going and for what she was capable of.

>Explains how The Quantum Realm works and gives the idea for the time heist
I thought Tony had been working on the idea of time travel for a while, but didn't believe it'd would work for some reason.

I mean, speaking objectively, this was almost always the case in Dragon Ball since Frieza died. Shit, Gero built things stronger than Frieza in a literal cave. With a box of scraps.

He had the idea but didn't want to invest into it since he became a dad for obvious reasons. He only got back into it because they clearly wanted to do it.

>a lot of off screen development
That was a problem with this movie in general.

I agree her debut should have been left for after Endgame, but they needed a passing of the torch moment for marketing purposes, so it was inevitable and I'm glad they at least minimized her role in the story to let the original cast get the spotlight.

>So they just deliberately made her completely irrelevant for 85% of the movie?
It should've been 100%
They should've put Carol off until after Endgame because she's kind of irrelevant and it's not her story. She doesn't trigger any nostalgia and doesn't get any callbacks.
Fucking Howard the Duck shows up for the final battle but no kree or skrulls so her movie doesn't even matter.
Does Carol even see anyone she cares about get snapped? Because her after credits scene wasn't to tie into Endgame like Ant Man's was.

For me it isn't even about the sjw but the mere fact that she is OP just cause and needs no development in her character that actually has impact on her personality. Carol shows up and everyone sighs in relief, she walks in dominating the entire team while not playing as part of that same team cause she acts like she doesn't need it. That last part I probably hate the most. Why not let her go through a thing where she realizes working together is much better rather than being selfish, that isn't what 'ima strong wamen' is all about at all. Her entire film she acted like she had a stick up her ass and she never got it out.

>She's off saving other planets because she knows the Earth has the Avengers to protect it,
We see what Thanos was doing in the past when she was supposedly off protecting the universe. It would've been good to many cameo her there to back up her points.
She also could've done something during the Time Heist since, again, that's something that will benefit the entire universe.
But I understand why they didn't do those things; there's no connection to Carol yet. No time. Her story just doesn't matter as much in the grand scheme of things as they stood and at the end of the day she's just too strong for a narrative; she has the Superman problem only doubly so.

>>makes a gorillion
I don't doubt the movie is ridiculously successful but it's fucking weird how whenever I ask or watch someone talk about it they go "that was just okay.".
From its box office performance I keep expecting a reaction like Ragnarok or Guardians got and it's never come.

>Does Carol even see anyone she cares about get snapped?
Fury contacts her about the Snap, and gets dusted as he dows. The same Fury she actually became friends with, and gave that pager to for emergencies specifically like this.

The irony of Carol's objectification into a blunt instrument to throw at problems is actually pretty funny.

>She also could've done something during the Time Heist since, again, that's something that will benefit the entire universe.
Do you bring a Proton Cannon on a bank heist?

Was hoping they'd have a callback to this moment when they showed up to get the stone from Quill.
>Rhodey: Hey, I'm with the Avengers
>Quill: Who?
>Nebula: 'sucker punch'
Almost missed Stan Lee's cameo. Kinda wished there had been something more, but what can you do? Anyone spot any others? I know Jim Starlin was at Cap's pep talk near the start.

And then you ask yourself why the worldly, well traveled space crew of the guardians of the galaxy hasn't heard of Captain Marvel despite the fact that she's supposedly out there protecting dozens of worlds and the only response you ever get it
>have sex incel space is big

>Carol lost Fury to the Snap.
She didn't really have Fury to lose. They spent a few days together once. A single mission.
It's not at all like she saw her best friend or protege turn to dust in her arms like most of the others did.

It's my Sunday best!

Yeah but she's not there for it. She's off doing "Something".
As a matter of fact why is she even asking where Fury is? The snap covered the universe, right? Shouldn't she have been able to put two and two together?
Where's the scene of her crying over her lost friend?

A mission they became friends in. One where she quite literally gave him something to contact her with should he need to. That was enough to get her to want to stop Thanos with everyone. Not be the one to land the killing blow.

Tony and Rhodey went, so technically yeah you do.

>So what's the deal with her?
She's cute and perfect! She's the new lead of the MCU! 'Nuff said!
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So what's her reaction to losing her friend?
Where's the part where she emotes so we feel like she's got a stake in things other than it just being a part of her job?
Because fucking Okoye gets that.
Hell, freaking M'Baku got that.

>>Where's the part where she emotes so we feel like she's got a stake in things other than it just being a part of her job?
The start of the movie, when she cries after seeing Fury died.
Try paying attention when watching movies?

Her movie?

Howard the Duck is more of a hero than Captain fucking Marvel.

Are you being dense on purpose or have you legit not seen this yet?

It seems that way, yeah.

but neither used a Proton Cannon, and I'm miffed about that

>poor public response
>$1,110,180,047
They hate her so much she's about a week shy of passing TalksToFishMan; but you do you, user.

boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel2018a.htm

This isn't a fucking argument.

Anyone else think Mar Vell (female) got knocked up by one of the Skrulls she was helping and gave birth to Hulkling. We already have Cassie Lang, and Hawkeye Disney+ series might set up Kate Bishop.

Kys incel cringelord

What is "this"?
You're not talking about Endgame.

>stop using hard numbers that undercut my faggotry
>REEEE!
You're a bit off script, kiddo. You're supposed to pretend that Disney bought their own tickets.

He used the shield, and a Thor powered unibeam.

>that one butthurt waifufag is STILL trying to play damage control for Carol
Do you sleep

I know the idea is there but it's not the same, damn it!

>waifufag
>not a mousefag

Russos really don't like overpowered character and tend to nerf their powers a lot. They might not have had that choice with Carol

I got bad news for you. Carolfagging is the new Man of Steel defense force. Yea Forums knows it's bait and they're the ones pretending she's the best thing since wrestling.
Because defending overpowered autists lacking in charisma is what they do, apparently.

This whole thread is just Yea Forums bitching. Look at all the non-arguments that both "sides" are making. It's a circlejerk over pointless bullshit.

That might be more Brie than how Carol was written. She always seems to come off as really not wanting to be in every room she is in. Like she really hates being there and wants to go home now. Even in interviews she looks like this.

They did, among other things, including getting Twitter homos to create some brain-dead campaign about getting orphans tickets to Captain Marvel for "charity" but that's not important because box office is never an argument it's a pissing contest.

I remember a while ago hearing they had an extra version made depending on how Captain Marvel was received. I think I read that here though so it's probably a pile of bullshit. Thought if it's true I would be pretty interested in seeing it to see how it's different.

I'd also be interested in if there's an extra long directors cut of the movie in general. I liked it but some parts felt like they didn't get the room they needed to breath. A couple reviewers have said that Endgame felt like a few different movies in one, but to me it felt like they added up all those movies to about 1.2 moves and then had to trim the finished product down a bit to fit a 3 hour window.

>shows up to help a character do a thing
>Isn't seen until the last moments of the movie.
I wonder how Brie, as a feminist, handled her character being reduced to an object to move the plot forward.

The OG Ravager team is actually pretty powerful in their own right. Starhawk is basically a Thor for another planet.

ara ara

Are they even self-aware about shit like that or is just having a character on screen a win for them?

She should be happy she got that much. Even the later MCU additions Black Panther and Spider-Man were in 3 films a piece before Endgame, but everyone expected this literal who bitch to show up and steal the show? Honestly, I think she needed LESS spotlight considering this film was the swan song of the OG Avengers team.

How the fuck did Gero build things stronger than Freeza when no Android could stop Goku back when he beat the RRA?

And for that matter, how does Earth tech manage to stand up to Thanos?

>She doesn't though.

She literally does though. Rhodey calls her out on it early in the film. She's shitting on them by effectively saying "If I'd been here, Thanos wouldn't have won" and Rhodey says, "Hey, you know the rest of us are also about that superhero life, right?" Pointing out that she's being incredibly condescending and self-important after showing up for 5 minutes.

She might respect them on the whole, but she absolutely shits on them when she first arrives.

RIP MCU

I kinda wish we'd gotten more post-apocalyptic post Thanos stuff. As bad as it is I almost wanted another movie or two in here. I just don't quite feel like 3 hours was enough for everything this movie needed to do.

>Starhawk is basically a Thor for another planet.
That's can't be right. Other planets don't have avengers!

I think as long as they have a character to represent every race/sex/sexuality they think they're winning. It doesn't matter that it's some ridiculous caricature of whatever is being represented, so long as they can check that list.
She really does feel like a last minute inclusion to check one of those boxes. Doesn't matter that she has the personality of a piece of wood with a nail in it - she's here, she's a woman; so they must be doing the right thing.

Brie Larson cannot carry the MCU like RDJ and Evans did. Making Carol your face isn't the worst idea, but they cast one of the most uncharismatic and unlikable actresses in Hollywood to portray her.

Yeah, did this motherfucker have as stroke? I don't remember Carol giving a single shit in Endgame and I just left the theater three hours ago. I didn't see Captain Marvel though so it it's an after credits scene there's the answer.

>She's there for the battle scene where they pass the torch.
Do you mean figuratively, or literally because they were passing the gauntlet around? Because literally that makes sense but you don't really need her there for that, and figuratively she's not really taking a torch from anyone.

I watched the CM after credits scene.
Basically Steve and Natasha are talking about something that entered the atmosphere and turn around and Carol's standing there and goes "where's fury" in her bored baby voice.
She doesn't seem at all broken up about it so that can't be what he means either.

>Doesn't matter that she has the personality of a piece of wood with a nail in it - she's here, she's a woman; so they must be doing the right thing.

They already have Wanda. My theater popped off when she wrecked Thanos, but the entire room was crickets whenever Carol did something. All MCU Carol has going for her is her powerlevel. She's a walking plot convenience. I just don't understand why they pushed her so hard.

>why didn't they let superman just do everything?
gee user i dunno maybe because they wanted a movie?
being stupidly overpowered is supposed to be balanced out by the fact that she's also the only one that can take regular trips across the fucking galaxy

>All MCU Carol has going for her is her powerlevel.
That's not even a strength. Without earning it with character moments its just a detriment.
See Superman for the original example of this.

>All MCU Carol has going for her is her powerlevel. She's a walking plot convenience. I just don't understand why they pushed her so hard.
Literally feminist power fantasies.

>the only one that can take regular trips across the fucking galaxy

Thor can also do this now, and much faster.

You're not going to reach any of them. The minds are made up and they have to change tactics to keep up the narrative Yea Forums wants to push.

Thor can't even beat a 12 year old playing Fortnite.

Which brings me right back to how she must feel about her character being turned into a plot device. Figuratively objectified by turning her into a device to solve a problem.
You're not wrong, but at least superman can be likable. Even if it's only during a post credit scene for Shazam.

Box office performance doesn't necessarily translate to quality. Look at Bayformers.

DCEU Superman has the literal same problem MCU Carol has, that's why they had to use a stunt double for Shazam's scene.

Anyone that actually believes that is retarded

original 60s Guardians of the Galaxy basically were space Avengers

>They did
Prove it.

That never made sense ever. If it was possible to make machines as powerful or more powerful than Frieza, then he would not have been the universe ending all encompassing threat.

And done with very backward low level Earth technology too

No one knows, they just keep pushing her. She basically turned every comic page shes appeared in as “captain” into toilet paper. Somehow, in their hubris, they thought movie Carol would work. Im really worried about a new avengers, her power level is so OP I cant see her on a team, whats the fricken point? At least Superman has kryptonite, a secret identity, family, a job, and is humble as fuck. Carol is just stronger and better then everyone and somehow thats suppose to be compelling?
Id hate trying to write a new avengers with her as the leader, either you write her out like in endgame or split the threat up and have her do all the heavy lifting while everyone else just “helps”.

Other planets.
Don't have.
Avengers.
Carol said so.

like the MCU is going to be worth a damn past this. sure It'll make money but probably nowhere near enough the amount Di*ney got a taste for so they'll opt for a slow death and move on to vampirise the next big franchise.

Honestly I'd say that Cavill's worse than Larson as an actor for their respective characters. He needed three chances to get even a halfway decent Superman. Sure part of that was the awful directing, but he himself just gives the impression that he doesn't really want to be here most of the time. Larson at least is having some fun in her movie. Plus Captain Marvel as a character doesn't really have the same expectations that someone like Superman has. Christopher Reeve was a believable and beloved Superman because he could actually get the character, and wanted to help sell you on the idea that you'd believe a man could fly. Cavill doesn't have that kind of presence.

Her only defining characteristic is that she's really strong.
I guess you could make her really Bull Headed, but then you have to contend with the fact that you can never let her be wrong without pissing off the audience you're pandering to. She's basically a female Hulk, but if you say that the "sun's gettin' real low" people will bitch at you for "gaslighting" or something.

So the canon power rankings are

Thanos 6 stones used properly>King Thor 100%>Thanos 6 stones using it to shoot lasers>Thanos 5/4/3 stones>Dr. Strange>Thanos 1 stone>Scarlet Witch>/=Carol>Thanos 0 stone>Boomer Thor=God of Lightning Thor>The Hulk>Vision>Spider-man>Everyone else

Oh and Ronan is here somewhere but we can't really tell other than Ronan>The GotG, but also Thanos believes he could have beaten 1 stone Ronan.

A few months ago someone posted that he's an insider and they're making two rough cuts of the movie, one where she's barely in and one where she has a more active role, aka more scenes where she does something, but that can be removed without fucking up the movie. He said that they're planning on checking out if she's popular or not before deciding on which version to finalize, if people like her they'll release the version that has a lot of her and if not then vice versa. But this might've been fake so you know, pinch of salt etc.

Nigger you literally see her eyes water when she looks at Fury's name on the list.

It would have been WAAAAAAYYYYYY too late to adjust Endgame according to the audience reaction to Cap Marvel, so no.

THISUnless you think they already made two versions of the movie (which effects budget alone would have been insane) at best/worst they cut out extra scenes for her.

Carol was ON her planet's Avengers team 20 years before Infinity War

>poor public response
You mean over a billion dollars?

Yeah, I love Michael Bay flicks as well.

>hated by A LOT of anons and normies
>empy theathers all over the world
>disney admits to manipulating numbers and online perception of the movie
>deleted 50K "troll"reviews
>over 30K reviews with the exact same review saying it's a 10/10 appear
>"those are fine kek"
>if your search captain marvel review, the search switches to news only so you get the paid reviews and no indie reviewers kek
>somehow made more than half of what Infinity Wars made
mmmmhhhhh what do you guys think about le funny Yea Forums narrative?

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They told audiences it was important to understand the biggest cinematic event of all time.
It was released so close to that event that its still in theaters when Endgame came out.
This means there was no other way to watch Captain Marvel without helping its box office and see every marvel movie before Endgame.
People could wait to rent or Netflix every other marvel movie without missing out.

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No, you don't.

Cavill had a director and studio working against him, but had a wealth of source material to go on. Larson had everything going for her, except her source material was pretty nonexistant.
Both are shit but I can at least kind of understand why Cavill's Superman was trash. In Larson's situation the worst case scenario is that she had to create her character from whole cloth, and this is what she did with it?

I have to go now, the universe needs me.
Note: Captain Marvel will take a while to visit all the planets!

This is what the writers did with it too. It's the worst introduction in the MCU. What a travesty. Even T'Challa's entrance in Civil War wasn't this fucking retarded.

I actually gave a shit about T'challa in Civil War and he felt natural to the plot.

I'm pretty sure that charity didn't even amount to a million dollars

Yeah, here it is. It's fucking stupid but it's only 60k worth of stupid, even if it was a conspiracy it wasn't nearly enough to push the movie to a billion or any other relevant number

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>fucks off into space for the bulk of the movie
>gets back at the end only to be bitchslapped by thanos

I was very glad with all these decisions.

Even then her scenes are among the worst in the movie.

Niggerlover

The Russos are just reasonably competent. She literally got her debut a couple months before Endgame, so it wouldn't have been right to give her a prominent role in the climax of the entire franchise.

There isn't a relevant number because it's a shitty movie they intentionally set before any of the others except Captain America: The First Avenger because they couldn't have Carol interact with any of the other Avengers and have them not fucking remember it.

Poor marvel. Now they'll be missing out on you downloading their content illegally

That's random rambling that has nothing to do with what i said, geez

>even if it was a conspiracy it wasn't nearly enough to push the movie to a billion or any other relevant number
There isn't a relevant number, go fuck yourself. Is that better?

Nowhere does anyone of importance say she is suppose to have a bigger role. She showed up and saved the Avengers from defeat and then happily left and she cleaned up their mess. She even managed to piss off some incels in the process which is just a plus

We want to believe so badly that our hate is shared and justified, don't we?
This.
Her debut film is still in fucking theaters right now. It wouldn't make any sense for such a new character to usurp the throne of the main cast that have been building up to this for a decade. She was purely used as a big gun in a moment when a big gun was needed, and then she got believably defeated without jobbing.

I have no idea what you're trying to say. What i meant with that is that 60k dollars aren't a billion, as in it doesn't make sense to argue that a small charity/scam is the only reason (or even a major reason) why the movie was successful at the BO

Anything you want to add about the movie's role or perception in the franchise has nothing to do with my "relevant numbers" point

They should have made a Black Widow solo movie instead of Captain Marvel.

It made a billion strictly because of Endgame, not because the movie's own merit.

>My theater popped off when she wrecked Thanos, but the entire room was crickets whenever Carol did something
Holy shit, I just came back from it a few hours ago and this exact thing happened. There were a few weak "Yeah"s here and there when she showed up at the end, but she easily had the most flaccid reaction from the audience, it was uncanny.

There's no way they would change it in time you dimwit. Endgame plot was finalized a long time ago at the very most they could delete a scene but I doubt they did even that especially since they had no actual reason to do it because most people who aren't obsessive autists wouldn't be bothered by her. They had the sense not to make a new character the main focus of a film finalising the story of many characters, it's apparent to everyone with more than two brain cells.

No Nova corps??

Anyone from the gladiator pit in Ragnarok would be super hero tier on Earth

And all of them are trapped on the literal garbage planet. How does that help anyone?

Those individuals specifically can't, but they are representative of their species and the populations of their home worlds.

Everyone started clapping when Thanos tried to headbutt Carol and he stood her ground at my theatre

How is her movie even going to work since shes dead...?

>>she kind of gives off the impression that she thinks The Avengers are rookies defending a backwater planet and she's doing all the important shit.

compared to her, they are

> "If I'd been here, Thanos wouldn't have won"
If the avengers weren't fractured, he wouldn't have. she's right

Prequel, presumably

It doesn't really make sense for her to have debuted when she did either.

Bullshit. Brie doesn’t sell it, she just looks at the Fury file

I saw this with a friend who hasn't seen Carol's movie and every time Carol showed up on screen she just got irritated, "why is this unlikable bitch in this movie?", it was pretty funny.

Reminder that Carol is the best and is the new lead of the MCU
>things that definitely happened you guys

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>Reminder that Carol is the best and is the new lead of the MCU
Nah

yah

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WOW try again Disney had the script rewritten to include her, no one wanted her there she was to have a small cameo but she is phase 4. They rushed her in so she could be included.

Prove it then

Brie Larson is the new Jennifer Lawrence

She was standing on the porch steps by herself. The camera pans over and Fury was on the left side of the porch.

She's like Superman in JLU. He wa so strong that they basically had to knock him out with Kryptonite or magic or whatever at the beginning of a big fight to give the other JL members something to do. They could only use him to his full potential if they were fighting Darkseid or someone else who was also ridiculously powerful.

Of course I don't have jaundiced eyes, severe cardiac pain, or glowing brain tumors. Who would want any of those things?

>took a month to make what Endgame made in a weekend
>This is a good thing
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Oh man, I never thought of this.

it means she's gonna pop our boi's cherry

Oh fuck

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I'd be skeptical too, but the thread about what could had been in all the MCU movies a few days ago made it sound like movie production is very fluid and adaptible. Cut subplots, reshooting a character's scenes with another actor, reshooting scenes at the last minute because test audiences reacted this or that way, changing the movie drastically because some major character got injured during shooting etc.

Based

Personally I think after endgame if they don’t either significantly improve her character or get Brie Larson to step up her acting she may not end up being as popular or profitable as Disney/Marvel are hyping her up to be
Now some anons in thread have already pointed out her solo film making about 1.1 billion work wide but remember it was released after infinity war and effectively right before endgame when the MCU hype train was in full swing and everybody wanted to see every film to not miss anything on top of the whole ‘girl power’ narrative so the box results are likely not entirely reflective of the star power of the character herself
Assuming if they are going to push her a new key central character I say it’s best to just wait and see how she and the MCU fairs without Captain America, Iron man or Thanos as well as no more infinity stones
Not to mention most people already making up their minds on whether they like her character or not and last time I checked the reception to her solo film was not entirely positive

>watching Endgame, full teather.
>everyone starts showing up for big 3rd act battle
>teather goes nuts when Spider-Man shows up
>Miss Marvel shows up, teather is dead silent, no one gives a shit

>Carol went off to another planet but died on the way there

Wish they would poochie her but we can only hope.

She doesn’t though, every opportunity she gets she tells them how much more important she is then them. Did you not see her scene with black widow? Carol is charmless she’s the ewuivelent of dr strange in ragnarok but she has no rapport with any character, she was only in this movie so we could see the original avengers like her, and if you took her out you’d unironocally have a better movie

I remember when people were posting conspiracy theories about Black Panther too. For what it’s worth I’ve seen the movie three times in three different places and each time the theater was pretty packed. Even last week after the movie had been out for awhile. I think as far as the MCU goes it’s a mediocre movie and they need to pull a Winter Soldier with her in the second movie but for whatever reason Marvel marketing got people interested in the character which is more than you can say for the recent comics.

>I know you guys are trying to restore half the universe and stop Thanos but there's a house fire on another planet

Not that I'm complaining, anything for less of her.

It made the money the same reason panther did because it came out right before the avengers only difference is the cast of BP weren’t insufferable cunts

Howard the Duck shows up besides Cap at the final battle when all the portals bringing in snapped Avengers form.

>Whole theater gets hyped when Thanos fucking decks Captain Marvel

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And then you stood up, said some shit and all people clapped?

Nope. It's just common sense to make the movie revolve around the characters who were around for the majority of its 22 episode run. You don't just give major billing to the last person to show up late at a party. Come on bro... troll harder.

No, because that would be retarded.
But there was a huge buzz in the crowd, people went "oh shit!" and stuff life that.

> 15 minutes is more than Olsen had in Infinity War, user.

Why do you people keep making this up?

Tony also doesn't have any Pym Particles lying around so the problem wasn't worth really digging into before Scott showed up.

See What is there to make up? My theater reacted to a scene yours didn't, no reason to get all pissy.

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Only reaction my theatre had was the opening of the portals (with Pete’s return going nuts) and a few girls in the front loving the yaaas queen moment with all the female hero’s (marvel shouldn’t have been front and center but what’re you gonna do)

Same. People got excited when Black Panther appeared and when Spiderman appeared.

Fuck off tumblr tranny.

How can anons use actual tumblr terms like incel and shitlord and think anyone will think they are actual posters from here?

No. She just wasn't needed that much when they have planned how the movie was going to end and they figured it would be a waste for her being in a time heist plot when she's no going to do anything. I mean what's she even going to do in Earth anyway? And what she's even going to do in a time heist? Better to just have her meet the Avengers and go into space to save Tony and Nebula, and help them find Thanos. After that there isn't much for her to even stay at Earth when other planets are facing the same situation

Honestly it made sense that she would appear after the fight so that way she would have more importance by helping the Avengers out against Thanos. Which she did, and I think she finds Peter really cute.

Stop overthinking too much. Plus Captain Marvel was one month before Endgame. I highly doubt they have time for her to do anything

Very based man

She just met them. She doesn't even know anything about them

Technically, every support character is a plot device.

Are you an idiot OP?

What is she even suppose to do in the whole movie? She wasn't really needed when Earth is doing fine with the Avengers, and there are other planets that have the same problem.

Remember the Nova Corp? Because they were completely fucked by Thanos and we don't even know who survived. Carol is mainly filling the void untilo a new Nova Corp or a new organization can be built

It'd be a waste for Carol to even be there and do nothing. She served her purpose when the plot needed it, and the next movie will have more of her since the curent ones are retiring

No, he just believed the theory that time travel is impossible until lang came up with using the quantum realm, then he thought about how to make it possible. He's kinda like Forge in that sense, a technowizard.

What did she do?

20 years later
>"Oh yeah, Captain Marvel was a thing"

real question, in ant man 2, during the end credit, after the snap, the giant ant is playing drums. 5 years later, where is human sized ant?

> poor public response made them change some things up?
The fuck you goin on about?
It made $1bil+

The reason she wasn't a prominent role in the movie is because she was just introduced a movie ago. They're not gonna let some young buck steal the fame

Now that's a plothole

Nope.
If the characters move the plot, they're good characters.
If the plot constnatly moves the characters, they're bad characters.
It's okay for the plot to sometimes move the characters, for example an earthquake or a war etc definitely causes people to do stuff they wouldn't normally do. But otherwise, characters shouldn't be pawns that are driven by the plot, they should drive the plot through their thoughts, feelings, actions, interactions, etc. That's the difference between a story and a bunch of things that happen.

Box office ≠ Criticism

I believe so, yes. At least, that's what's being rumored.
Two cuts "Captain Marvel Saves the Day" and "Hey, it's Poochie", with former being filmed first.

Don't worry. Disney doesn't need alt-cel neetbux

>The queens can live for up to 30 years, and workers live from 1 to 3 years. Males, however, are more transitory, being quite short-lived and surviving for only a few weeks.
he ded

Worker ants have a natural lifespan of less than a year

Except Antman, Nebula, and Rocket. Non OG avengers all had lesser roles.

>It made $1bil+

Yeah because it's got the Marvel name and came out smack dab between IW and EG when hype had full momentum and promised to be tied to both movies with "the most powerful super hero in the MCU (lmao)". Meanwhile every single person that I know that has seen it agrees that it was mediocre.

RIP drum solo ant

She was absent from most of the movie because she is way too OP. the fight would literally end in 10 seconds with her.

Too bad she didn't die on the way back to her home planet.

Critical response among most of the moviegoing populace has been relatively positive. Critical response is mostly positive. There is no substantial public backlash, you've deceived yourself into following a narrative that doesn't exist. It's merely seen as yet another Marvel movie.

Show evidence of an actual massive public backlash if you want people to believe you.

Cringe and incelpilled

The MCU's purpose is to be a money generator

I'd argue that the stone-powered characters are the most powerful of the good guys, probably Carol>Witch>Vision. Witch would have soloed stoneless Thanos without his ship, stoneless Thanos beat the tar out of the Hulk and DadBod Thor. Maw is probably close to Stone user levels, with Stoned Thanos obviously above that.

HOLY SHIT TWEET IT TO THEM THEY WILL SHIT THEMSELVES AND RECONSIDER
She was hot with the short hair

>So they just deliberately made her completely irrelevant for 85% of the movie?

Yes? I don't think you understand how editing works or just how long a process it is. They aren't going to completely edit out a character from 3 hour movie two months before it comes out because you didn't like a movie that came out two months earlier. You people live in a fantasy world. Take a film class, holy shit.

Critical response was between "Movie is ok" and "Movie is average and uninspired".

The thing was inflated by an aggressive advertising push, getting people back it to "stick it to bigots", and crap like that. Plus the fact it's the lead in to Endgame got a lot of butts on cinemas.

In other words most see it as yet another Marvel movie. This isn't a fucking public backlash.

I watched her movie the other day. The thing with the pager doesn't really make sense. Earth was invaded several times in the last few years. Why the fuck didn't Nick use the pager?

Who said backlash? OP said poor response, which it wasn't, but it was also nowhere near what Marvel intended.

Seeing how the signal took a while to reach Carol, by the time she'd have arrived at Earth the Battle of New York would have long since ended.

>but it was also nowhere near what Marvel intended.
Marvel wanted to make money with it. They made over a billion dollars with it. Where the fuck are you getting with this idea that it isn't what Marvel wanted?

Was she absorbing the power from the stones? Before that point Thanos had zero issues taking her punches and knocking her away, but then at the headbutt she didn't even flinch.

There didn't need to be any more thread after this.

The Last Jedi made over a billion dollars too. It doesn't change the fact that it wasn't a great movie. Same case with Captain Marvel. Got carried by the fact that it is a Marvel movie and Endgame being a month away. How well Captain Marvel 2 performs is a better indicator of whether Captain Marvel is successful or not.

They need to make money in future movies, and for that, the need characters that get people into theaters. Especially now that they retired a few.

If initial reception of a character they dumped all their advertising power into is lukewarm, the above isn't guaranteed.

TLJ was offensively bad and completely ruined several beloved and beyond iconic characters, Captain Marvel was just meh and too by-the-numbers.

There was no massive public backlash. Most thought the movie was just okay, not bad and certainly not terrible.

>Most thought the movie was just okay, not bad and certainly not terrible.
What the fuck are you basing that on?

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Keep on seething, Carol is here to stay
and there is NOTHING you can do about it

Reviews, general audience reception wherever its published.
>b-b-but paid reviews!
>b-b-bur Disney bought seats!
>b-b-but everyone HATED the SJW propaganda!

What are YOU basing the idea that everyone in the world fucking hated it on? Oh, right, nothing, you just personally hated it and can't stop squealing about muh SJWs because the character isn't male and does things.

Shut up, cunt.

There's proof of disney modifying RT scores and of good reviews being botted while legitimate reviews that were negative are deleted on site. Anyone who tries to argue that CM is well received is a shill or a troll. No one disputes that disney made it a financial success, but it was in no way a good or well received movie. And it's all because of brie.

>I'm gonna show that user! I'll post my obvious bullshit again!
Seething.

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>There's proof of disney modifying RT scores
Yeah I'm sure Disney has a lot of sway over a company owned by Warner Bros

There were a lot of moments during the movie where the entire theater clapped.

Captain Marvel appearing during the final fight was not one of them.

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>There's proof of disney modifying RT scores
So provide it

It doesn't even have a particularly good rating relative to the rest of the franchise. You're fabricating these "solutions" to a problem that doesn't exist.

>They're TOTALLY inflating Disney movie scores!
>While the superhero franchise they actually own gets routinely crapped on
That guy's an idiot

Alright lets do this

In terms of the avengers' power levels it goes like this

1. Scarlet Witch
2. Hulk
3. Vision
4. Captain Marvel
5. Dr. Strange
6. Thor
7. Iron Man
8. Ant Man
9. Black Panther
10. Captain America
10-N. the rest
N+1. Falcon

Captain Marvel and Vision are way too high. And what sickfuck puts Cap at the bottom?

1. Doctor Strange
2. Everyone else

Nah
1. Captain Marvel
2. Doctor Strange
3. Scarlet Witch
4. Thor
5. Iron Man
6. Hulk
7. Vision
8. Ant Man
9. Black Panther
10. Captain America

YAAAAS QUEEN SLAAAY

Its like watching a months long tantrum at this point, as pointless now as back when Yea Forums decided some mediocre actress was worth all this hate and bullshit. Only winners were the youtubers treating them like useful idiots.

Why the hate for falcon fucking racist?

>mediocre

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Loved the fact she wasn't included in the "Avengers Assemble" rolecall

>5. Dr. Strange

I can only assume you are joking.

N+N+1. War Machine.
Like, he did NOTHING.

Honestly, the only person I've ever witness saying it was good was my sister, and she is a radfem.
Not even my other radfem friends liked it, they thought it was "ok, but flawed".
It did well because it's Marvel, there was a lot of controversy around it, and a lot of political hype like BP (which was actually good and thus did better).

She got the perfect amount of screentime considering she just appeared in the MCU

Loved how they had Thor say "I like her" so the audience would go "DUUUUUUHHH THOR LIKE HER SO I LIKE HER TOO"

Eh, still doesnt means she's worth the amount of bitching Ive seen so far.

>Oscars
>Meaning anything

You can't be that delusional

>Rich, privileged, arrogant, ignorant white woman is a feminist icon

Imagine my surprise

suicide skwad was also financially successful. that doesn't make it good by any means.

Because then you could enjoy Brie Larson

>Not even my other radfem friends liked it, they thought it was "ok, but flawed
How does that not equate to liking it?

Suicide Squad was panned by both critics and audiences, while reception for Captain Marvel was still generally positive despite being on the low-end for MCU movies. Just get the fuck over it already, holy shit. It wasn't great, easily one of the worst movies in the MCU but you need to stop pretending it was some retarded feminist/SJW propaganda just because the character is female and can do things.

SHE WAS TOLD SHE COULDN'T PLAY BASEBALL
BUT THEN
SHE PLAYED BASEBALL

> Yea Forums bitching on and on about a character they hate for it getring too little screen time
Youre all just schizos
What is your opinion on the *womyn squad assemble* scene? I personally enjoyed the idea of battle Mantis. Did she survive the massive explosions around her? I dont remember her being at the funeral.

>*womyn squad assemble*

I laughed. It was funny.

>Make android out of human parts.
>Saiyan destroys them.
FUCK
>Decide to lay low.
>Namekian dies on earth, scavenge some of his bits.
>Supersaiyan dies on earth, scavenge some of his bits.
>Frieza dies on earth, scavenge some of his bits.
>Make android out of Human, Saiyan, Namekian and Freiza parts.
Success!

Plus Cell had the ultimate wombo combo of DNA.

Frieza DNA so he can survive nearly any injury even if his body is blasted into pieces.
Namekian DNA so he can instantly regenerate after being blasted into pieces.
Saiyan DNA so he gets a power boost each time he is blasted into pieces.

>What is your opinion on the *womyn squad assemble* scene?
It was ultimately benign but was very out of place in the context of the story and what was happening at the moment, and it felt very forced, to the point where I could see some of the people it was clearly trying to pander to being offended at how shallow and forced it was. Like the movie just said "Fine here you go, YAAAS QUEENS SLAY, you fucking happy now?"

That said it was only like a minute long so whatever, and I liked seeing GOOPy Girl flying around doing shit.

Is there ANY fucking hope of making Carol likable?

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I think he was referring to 16, 17 and 18, who were much, much more powerful than Frieza and had presumably been built prior to Gero even knowing about Frieza, super saiyans or any of that other shit. How did he manage to create androids that were magnitudes more powerful than anything that had been built or anyone that had existed before?

Welcome to 4channel, enjoy your stay

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I kidn of saw it as expected there would be some kind of girl power pandering.

My biggest issue with it is didn't they already do a "Yass queen slay girl power!" in the previous movie with the same fucking characters and the same fucking scene when they all fight Proxima like kweens.

What did people think of Valkyrie being ruler of asgard now? They bigged her up saying she was a great role model and leader and always has been but I don't remember ever seeing her do.. Anything.. Ever. We are just told she has these qualities and now Asgard has a female black president.

Oh right. Yeah fair enough. I know they are strong due to having infinite-purpetual energy cores but no idea how he figured that out solo in a box cave, then again Tony Stark made an arc reactor so who knows.

The wierd one is how did he make Android 21 using Buu DNA from beyond the grave.

Umm Netflix won't matter to Disney soon...

>What did people think of Valkyrie being ruler of asgard now?
Fine with it, don't really care. We get to see Asgardians of the Galaxy: The Hunt for Past Gamora now.

The chick that play Valkyrie did a best comic Capt. Marvel in most of Ragnarok then Brie did...

Captain Marvel is not stronger then strange and Scarlet is a high tier reality warper at full power

>People could wait to rent or Netflix every other marvel movie without missing out.
There were plenty of Marvel releases that have overlapped before, this is not new. Black Panther was still in theaters last year when Infinity War came out, and the next Spiderman will be out in July while Endgame will still probably be in theaters.

I had no problem with it because they showed her keeping shit together in New Asgard while Thor was being a drunk frat boy. Something she was herself in Ragnarok. Her getting her shit together for her people instead of just wallowing with him proved she'd changed.

A good movie that gives her the chance to be fun and engaging, could easily happen if shes really going to be the lead

>Scarlet is a high tier reality warper at full power
not with DOOM's help she isn't.

If there's one thing I've learned from reading 20 years of x-men and friend's comics it's that power nerfs and buffs can be undone at a moments notice

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She's already the most likable hero in the MCU. Do you just not like any hero?

>She's already the most likable hero in the MCU.

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Real talk, what's the point of making ridiculous claims like this? Like even if you really love Carol a lot you have to know that most people at the very least prefer the original three and the guardians

>most people at the very least prefer the original three and the guardians

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Okay fine, just straight up shit posting then.

Living rent free in your brain, man.

>Real talk, what's the point of making ridiculous claims like this?
You gave him the (you) didn't you?

>Seeing how the signal took a while to reach Carol, by the time she'd have arrived at Earth the Battle of New York would have long since ended.
They're kind of inconsistent with that now because Carol shows up in time for the Thanos fight in Endgame which had even less warning than Loki's shit in 2012.

>They're not gonna let some young buck steal the fame
But they will position her to be the face of the franchise going forward?

How could you watch this movie and like her? She was awful and had no good moments with any characters

Honestly her presence almost ruined the movie, she's to strong and to much of a nothing character. This should've been her ragnarok, Strange in his movie was meh. He was arrogant mean spirited and bitter throughout his own movie, but Strange in Ragnarok was able to make those qualities work while being with thor and loki I'm not the bigest fan but umberbatch is a charasmatic actor and was able to work well with the other actors. Brei just seemed out of place in the movie and mad about it, so she had to come in and ruin every ones fun because they weren't playing by her rules. Either humble her or give her a personality cause this shit doesn't work

He's baiting, no one seriously thinks that she's more well liked in general then Tony or Cap

She was useless in the film and it doesn't sound like she's the greatest person irl but honestly I'm into her 90s bad bitch personality. Not every woman has to have the same motherly, cute personality.

The character is simply too strong. You saw the way she flew in at the end, she destroyed Thanos' ship with ease and then made Thanos look like a joke until she took the power stone to the face (which funnily enough still wasn't enough to leave a mark on her).

She wasn't in the majority of the movie because she would have trivialized the entire thing. Thor is strong as fuck as well, but he was at least gimped by his own mental state. If Captain Marvel, a newcomer, suddenly showed up and effortlessly saved the day it would have been extremely unsatisfying way to end the infinity stone storyline they've been building up for 20+ movies. Brie Lawson being unlikable has nothing to do with her absence.

>Somehow managed to find Stark in the fucking vastness of space and bring him home

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>Thanos' headbutt
>"Is this like a personal attack or something?"
Jesus, I fuckin hate that bitch...

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SHE'S THE MOST POWERFUL AND MOST AMAZING WE DEMAND YOU LIKE HER EAT OUR FUCKING SLOP YOU GODDAMN PIGS

>Source: My ass

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This, he can literally look up the best scenario and then go along with that.

>Most likable
What are you on about? I unironically enjoyed Captain Marvel, but she was so pompous in Endgame it was like I was watching a different character. If what we're getting in the future Marvel titles is her personality in Endgame then she is the most irritating.

It's bait, moron.

If they can have her remember an origin story that's more complicated than: Was a cunt, got super powers randomly. Then yes, there's hope.

And then that scene after Tony's funeral when Pepper asked who she was and she said Tony Stark's toxic masculinity cost him his life because she would have had the gauntlet if he hadn't been stubborn and refused to call her earlier? It seemed excessive, political even.

Thor used to be pretty boring, but now he's best Avenger. I'm sure the Russos can make Carol interesting too, and Brie is capable of showing charisma.

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that wasn't too bad, though the part where she turned to the screen and said "I just want every little girl out there to know that she's better then any ol' ironman and should never forget that' and it was revealed to be Tony's daughter she was talking to was a bit excessive but it was for a good cause so I understand

At least the post-credits scene where she gave Peter Parker head to cheer him up and said she admires his spunk was funny.

>I'm sure the Russos can make Carol interesting too
weren't the Russos stepping off?

Then she's doomed

Carol might just be a dick and not answer. It would be pretty in line with the character.

Scarlet is a glass canon

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>I'm sure the Russos can make Carol interesting too,
They didn't.

They couldn't. People are doing mental fucking acrobatics to come up with ways on how the whole world agrees with them.

Yes, of course

SO WHO THE FUCK WAS THAT GUY/KID DURING TONY STARK'S FUNERAL AT THE END?
I can't remember him in any other movie before, and he was there in a single spot. Even the damn camera pointed at him the same ammount of time as the rest of the cast

He was the kid from IM3
Puberty hit him hard.

Harley, the kid who helped Tony after he flew to Alabama on autopilot in Iron Man 3.
The best / worst part of the movie depending on your personal perspective.
Regardless, it was a nice touch of continuity from a movie I never thought they'd acknowledge again.

This kiddo
He's all grown up

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[SPOILER] Stan Lee was driving around with Ditko's wife[/SPOILER]

If they wanted to go that route then Captain Taxi should have had an intergalactic focus rather than a generic amnesia plot.

Even if it meant a character rewrite she's exactly the type of OP character that needs an intergalactic focus, and as GoTG 1/2 showed theres plenty of crazy non-thanos villains out there she could have defended other planets against instead of having a EARF DA BEST origin story.

When the Wakandans appeared, you found out real quick where the black people in the audience were.

Didn't think of that but it is pretty funny.

>>what she's even going to do in a time heist?
Go back to the 90's, fully powered, and get the Tesseract from Mar-Vell. Might even potentially aid in Mar's research when she returns it.

Film two versions, duh

Plus, I'm sure some San Fransisco cop, or concerned neighbor would shoot the fuck out of the literal monster 4-foot insect running down a residential street.

So Rescue and uncle Pete when?

I handwaved that as:
She got to Earth a few days after the snap, judging by her movie's post-credits scene. Rocket probably had coordinates to where his ship was located, she must have just flown to it in a few weeks' time.

With as much as there is to hate about Carol, there's no reason to add things where you don't need to.

>stop pretending it was some retarded feminist/SJW propaganda just because the character is female and can do things.
No one uses this argument against the movie

shes busy shilling for more LGBT heroes in the next phase

Public responded with 1 billion for her movie and support on social media...

Their echo chamber doesn't accept facts inside it user.
Over the next ten years as Carol becomes as famous and loved as Iron Man is now, it will only make them more deranged and angry. We've only seen the tip of this iceberg.

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>If you want to interpret that as arrogance, that's on you, but the scene does not play out in that way in the slightest.

It makes her completely unrelatable and unlikable compared to the other heroes though. It makes her seem like she cares more about random ayylmaos compared to her own home planet and her own species. This is very fine and altruistic, but as a character it makes her seem cold and autistic and out of touch when audiences try to relate with her. This autism makes her come across as arrogant to some people.

Subjective as hell.
user, your opinions ain't facts.

The thermal drill keeps breaking so yes

The famous boast of every editor ever handed a Carol series that failed.

You're not immune to propaganda, and you're still wrong.

I don't see that as particularly relevant. What is relevant is that she clearly does not want to fucking be there during any of her 15 minutes of screentime. She doesn't emote, yet is still standoffish and bored. Other characters have to tell the audience that she's cool because she does such a poor job of communicating that on her own.

It's bad writing stacked on top of bad acting. Which is weird to me because I think Larson did a good job as Envy Adams.

That's the plan clearly

>a cop turned vigilante who puts the mission before their own sentimentality is unrelatable
never stopped such characters having fans in the past

Carol's tits got smaller when she cut her hair. Anyone else notice?

Watching interviews with Brie being with other cast members, you can see her being a raging bitch who gets fucking defensive at every statement
The Russos just said fuck it and shelved her so they didn't have to put up with her for long

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Why tell obvious lies?

If it doesnt happen on screen then it may as well not have happened at all

>Larson filmed her scenes for Endgame before beginning work on her solo film Captain Marvel, which was released first. Captain Marvel directors Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck were present for the filming of her scenes in Endgame and gave Danvers' characterization in the film their blessing.

It really doesn't matter as the MCU is concluded for me. Brie Larson can be the next be bad bitch for Disney's Presents Marvel Studios. Everyone I cared about in the universe has concluded their story for me. I am DONE with these Marvel flicks. Getting out while its on top, and before they shove more shit in that pisses me off.

I think you should to OP.

They fucked up hard she was the worst part of this whole thing god damn I used to like carol to. Turning her to captain marvel ruined her

majority opinion does not care at all about Captain Marvel. Her biggest cinema reactions are when Thanos pimpslaps her in to space with the power stone.

When exactly did Brie Larson get extensive plastic surgery?
Her face shape and particularly her nose looks quite a bit different.

If you tell me she never got work done on her nose I think you're a liar.

I'm not saying it's bad to get plastic surgery because a lot of Hollywood does it. But someone like Brie who is such an advocate on social media and shit about girls just being themselves or whatever and yet doing work on her face because she's rich is fucking two-faced.

>poor public response
user, I hate everything about Carol from Buisick’s Avengers on, but her movie made a billion dollars.

Man up when you’re wrong, dickwhistle. Don’t expect reality to pander to your lazy ass.

>Her biggest cinema reactions are when Thanos pimpslaps her in to space with the power stone.
>lying
youtube.com/watch?v=BwgideCYVd8

I honestly would hate to watch a movie with a crowd like this.

In KoalaLand, I don't think anyone knew who Carol was. Especially when she seemingly randomly showed up to save Tony. You'd have to watch her post-credit scene to understand how she got there or why people know her.

Also dead silence for BP. Lots of excitement for worthy Cap.

>a movie sold as fundamental to understanding Endgame is a good way to tell whether people like a character

You are still wrong

If you're so obsessed with carols numbers and how that makes her important why not look at her comic sales numbers

No one cares

Comic sales numbers haven't been important factors in a movie characters popularity since....well maybe never. Movies don't boos comic sales, and comic sales don't give a reasonable metric for movie success.

>comic sales numbers
>mattering at all
user the direct market is almost entirely smelly, 40 year old white dudes

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Man the fuck up.

>It made a gorillion
Because it advertised itself as an important movie that would lead into Endgame, thats also what the post credit in IW was for too. They even purposefully released it a month before because they knew people would care alot less if it didn't have Endgame hype backing it up.

I remember when Wonder Woman's domestic performance was a point of pride for DC fanboys.

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Yes, we understand that Disney knows how to successfully market films and not stupidly subvert audience expectation.
That's why we are discussing Avengers 4: Holy Shit All the Records are Dusted, and not Justice League: Darkseid Never Ever.

it didn't mention endgame at all in the marketing
and she wasn't in an endgame promo at all until after it was already out
just admit to yourself that everybody loves Carol and stop lying to yourself.

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All kinds if people read comics, user. It’s just that there aren’t many of us, so as you said, the numbers don’t matter- and they shouldn’t.

Her endless reboots are a bit shit tho

It still is to as Captain Marvel only did 1 million better with all the Disney marketing, and End Game's "tie-in" hype supporting. Captain Cunt is a no-body.

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Endgame was always going to focus on the original six. Trying to pretend that she didn't have the most to do outside the O6 (rescuing Tony and Nebs, wrecking Thanos big shiny spaceship are bigger moments than anyone else got) is a huge warning flag as to your your overt incelism and that you're just fishing for support.

Note the three who carried the gauntlet: BP, Spidey, and CM are probably the ones who are going to be leading the MCU movies in the next phase.

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There is no 'Yea Forums narrative'. Just a few incels sperging out about the character and her actress. There's a couple of even smaller supporting voices joining in from the MRA types because of Brie's political activism (as though Cheadle and Ruffalo aren't doing more in that regard) but that's it.

Seething.

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You’re boring. More boring than Carol. It’s like they can’t rest until everyone has endured their hot take.

A white lefty shitposting on Twitter isn't activism.

Sure thing, user.
>Larson and I would cross paths again during the Sundance Film Festival in January 2018. Angela Robinson, director of Professor Marston and the Wonder Women, helped facilitate my connection to Time’s Up, in which she and Larson are heavily involved. They were interested in knowing more about improving access and opportunity for underrepresented film critics, and I was asked to create a proposal that would help these critics gain elevated access at film festivals. I worked with other entertainment journalists to create the plan, and festivals across the country used it to begin a huge inclusion push, which today can be seen at places like the Toronto International Film Festival, SXSW, and Sundance. While every festival has different requirements, the basis is to provide airfare, lodging, credentials, and sometimes a stipend to critics who qualify.
>Brie Larson really helped spearhead this. Because of this, I can be in the same room with the biggest stars in the world, and partake in the biggest interviews of my career. I sat down with Larson to discuss the pressure that comes with taking on a role of this magnitude, her fondness for Rodarte, and ensuring film criticism is an equal playing field.

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She was the red herring.

Problem is Hulk, Thor and Thanos (eithout the gauntlet) were way too weak in the movies.
They all got depowered in comparison to their comicbook versions but she didn't. She was exactly as strong as in the comics (maybe even stronger) because Marvel wanted her to be Superman tier.

>Marvel wanted her to be Superman tier.
But they didn't give her a kryptonite.

Kryptonite is a crutch for bad writers.

then whats her red sun?

Supermans physical weaknesses are Kryponite and red sunlight and maybe that magic works on him.. yeah, but his real weakness is that he won't go all out when their is a risk that someone could get hurt by that.
He wouldn't let civilains or teammates die for the sake of winning.
His boyscout attitude is his bigget weakness and most villains know that and use it agains him. (MoS is an exception kinda)
CM on the other side has limitless power who doesn't need recharging by sunlight or whatever and she doesn't really think of casaulsties. Just think about that scene when she wrecks the spaceship... without Doc Strange that could have ended very badly for her own teammates.
She probably would've seen it as coleteral damage, I mean she is a Soldier and that was a war.

Anyone and everyone who thinks Carol's role was changed because of personal dislike or public opinion is deluding themselves. Look at poor Star Lord and how he constantly got shat on in each movie:
>Masculinity and leadership challenged by Thor
>Fell right into Thanos' trap trying to get him from taking the first stone
>Failed to kill Gamora like she asked and got taunted by Thanos for it, resulting in Thanos getting another stone
>Became the reason Thanos kept the gauntlet when he had a fit over Gamora's death
>Gets dusted
>Rhodey calls him a fucking idiot and knocks him the fuck out in the past
>Comes back and sees Gamora is alive
>Past Gamora hits him in the dick and generally hates him now
>Boomer Thor joins the Guardians and keeps threatening his masculinity
>Literally all of this was planned by a fucking wizard

Carol by every comparison got off light compared to Star Lord.

I was very very happy to find out while watching the movie that she was barely in it at all. I really thought they were going to ruin it by giving her massive amounts of screentime, as it was her total time was like barely ten minutes at most.

With Tony and Cap gone the MCU is over for me, so they can use her in as much stuff as they want to as many times as they want to. It won't make any difference for me. The only one I have even the slightest interest in seeing in the entire next phase is GotG3, nothing else interests me at all.

It wa a hell of a ride though, ten solid years of entertainment. Nothing lasts forever.

That's what probably most MCU fans think.
The movies will still make a ton of money but it will never be as hyped as it is till now.
Maybe the MCU version of the X-Men is going to be the new core for this franchise in a couple of years who knows.

>You're not immune to propaganda
That's were you're wrong kiddo.

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based

The X-men self destructs every other movie for some reason though.

The Last Stand, Apocalypse...

Plus the MCU already has their own mutant stand-ins, and nobody cares about the MCU!F4, or the MCU!Cyclops at this point.

I was disappointed nearly every time she showed up
When she rescues the ship, I thought it would be the guy who took over Yondu's ship and mowhawk who'd received a distress signal instead of her just randomly finding them.
When she was chatting with the Avengers I wanted more banter between interesting characters
When the ship started firing into the air I was hoping it was the ravagers/Nova Corp come to help
I was literally never pleased to see her, she was always a disappointment

SO now that bruce hulk is basically she hulk does that mean that if we ever get Jen in the movies its going to be her current form?

>Bruce
>basically she-hulk
I get what you're saying, but you're fucking retarded. Either way I don't think we're going to get a shulk movie she's probably regarded as fetish material.

>The X-men self destructs every other movie for some reason though.
What does that even mean. As if the MCU X-Men will be the exact same as Fox X-Men. Or is this some kind of superstition?
Plus first Class and Logan were great movies.

>the MCU already has their own mutant stand-ins, and nobody cares about the MCU!F4, or the MCU!Cyclops at this point.
Who do you talking about? Wanda?
Or the Inhumans that nobody wants to see.
MCU won't introduce the X-men in the next cpuple of years but some mutants will be introduced and the firt one will be Wolverine, mark my words.
Not only his popularity but also that he is connected to Captain America is going to be the reason he why we won't have to wait 5 years to see him on the big screen again.

A logan that won't be played by hugh jackman and an cap who's not only retired but not played by Evans

Every time the x-man movies, over the past two decades, do something moderately Ok, writers and directors sabotage the ip

I'd rather have one developed Wanda movie than mutants infesting the MCU, which again already has plenty of mutant-standins ready at their disposal.

Ehy the hell should anyone sabotage the X-Men of the MCU. Fox was retarded that's why it happened there.
What are even those stand-ins your talking about?
Also the MCU will 100% introduce the X-men, but not in the next couple of years.

>Ehy the hell should anyone sabotage the X-Men of the MCU. Fox was retarded that's why it happened there

It's just strange. The MCU, barring gems like the Winter Soldier, has always more-or-less has fluctuated between mundane capeshit and slightly above average movies. With Fox's Fan4stick and the mutants the quality is far more bipolar, the fact that you can have Apocalypse and DoFP adjacent to one another is surreal. Even if its made by Marvel I half expect the Fox curse to carry over.

>What are even those stand-ins your talking about?

Besides the Inhumans, which were introduced with storylines and origin stories 1-2 years prior to Ike's Imax wetdream, the MCU was known for introducing freaks of nature like the Ghost Riders, ghosts and the darkforce inspired heroes/villains, freaks of science including various cyborgs/abominations different from Hulk, and random freaks of nature like pyromancers.

In the early stages of the MCU around phase 2 there were numerous attempts to circumvent the mutant problem. Even if it is possible to use the mutants not it just seems more economical to use what threads and premises already exist in the cinematic universe first.

To be fair, he is a bit of a dick.
Like, when your chaotic good swashbuckler is hanging around with lawful clerics & paladins & heads of state, he better be pulling twice his weight (or canning the 'tude) if he doesnt want to get bullied. (just like say Cap would need to chill out if he had to tag along with the Guardians)

>has always more-or-less has fluctuated between mundane capeshit and slightly above average movies.
4U.
They aren't making movies to excite autistic manchildren (primarily).
This is why they are winning.

Mark my words, the Eternals movie will examine the Celestial Hosts and their experimentation with early man, and start building the rationale for the mutant gene. Then there'll be a link to the Snap's released energy signature (from Endgame) serving as a trigger for those dormant, forgotten experiments.

I'd not be surprised if Wanda, Quickslav and even Carol are simply Stone-unlocked Mutants.

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>churning out shit is winning

Can I just watch more on this eternal? He looks cool as fuck.

>Autism posting intensifies\
I don't mind if you dont like it

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That's one of the Celestial Host. The guys who made the Eternals, out of humans.

>Carolshills triggered

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Celestial Host comes to Earth to modify the primitives into a race that will defend the planet against their predatory enemy (Galactus) using the Stones. Thus the Eternals are created at the dawn of human history. The seed/egg for a new Celestial is dropped into the Earth (The Wakandan Vibranium asteroid, which the Wakandans have barely scratched). The warlike Asgardians splinter from the other Eternals, go on a spree of off-planet conquest. The early experiments to create Eternals continue to breed among humanity, passing on traces of their mutated genome.
Snap occurs, Earth is bathed in the intense energies of the Stones (as shown in Endgame), and old mutant genes are triggered, creating random mutations instead of the more unified Eternal gene.

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1. Thor at full power
2. Dr. Strange
3 & 4. Scarlet Witch or Carol (depends where they go with SW power)
5. Fat Thor
6. Hulk
7. Vision
8. Iron-man
9. Ant-man
10. Black Panther
11. Cap
12. Spider-man
>Literally everyone else

>Forgetting Tony's half dead, oxygen deprived speech about how Carol is the new blood they need to replace the Avengers

Brie Larson's charming personality is sure to pull that off well.

>Rocket probably had coordinates to where his ship was located
But they spent 2 days of fuel moving from that position. Not even hating on her since I never saw her film, it's just an annoying plot hole.

Carol is literally just Female Tony, which is something you can't stand in a female.

>But they spent 2 days of fuel moving from that position.
That doesn't imply a massive search area, since they were completely unable to reach ANYTHING in 2 days. Also, they were stuck there a long time, implying a bit of a search.

Tony is smart dude. He's smart, charming and charismatic.

>1. Thor at full power
>2. Dr. Strange
Strange so far out classes everyone power wise it's not even funny. Magic is OP as shit

>Carol is literally just Female Tony
Hell no, not even close. I have no idea how you can watch both of their movies and think that Carol is ANYWHERE near as charismatic as Tony was. Like even if you really really love Carol there's a point where you're just lying to yourself

Yeah but Thor was able to overpower the 6 stones at least when Thanos was only thinking Lasers and not reality bending, plus Thor also gained the ability to teleport, but I can concede that Strange could still be the strongest.

Tony has flaws, Tony fails, Tony learns and grows and changes. Carol had NONE OF THAT. Even in her introductory movie the only thing we see her do is dispute male authority. It's the most agenda-driven piece of shit identity politics film a studio has made in this genre.

Stop making up excuses for your retardation.

>Clear and coherent argument as to why Carol isn't female tony
>lel retard

C'mon, you gotta shill better than this

God damn, that was hot.

I'd say the biggest difference between them than any of these is the smarts.
It's the same reason I'd rather have Shuri, or eventually Tony's daughter, take over the Iron Man role instead of Pepper or War Machine (even though I like them doing their thing too). Because the best part of Iron Man stories is the futurist who is always pushing the tech in different ways to solve problems.

Do we even know what exactly happened to her to get those powers? I was hoping they adressed it in some way, maybe like Purple Man saying she was like a living fragment of one of the stones or something like that. All we know is it had something to do with the tesseract.

>but honestly I'm into her 90s bad bitch personality. Not every woman has to have the same motherly, cute personality.
But that's what Gamora and Nebula are for.

Black Widow, Gamora, Nebula, and various other character in the MCU say hi.

Carol Danvers is the first female protagonist in fiction according to her shills

Her scowl and white man hate get me hot.

She was the least entertaining hero in the movie who actually had dialogue.

Her personality was essentially
>I'm great, fuck you!

Isn't it explained in her movie? She got caught in the blast of a Tessaract/Space Stone-powered engine, and somehow absorbed its powers into her vagina.

Well yeah, but that's retarded even for MCU standards. My guess is either she's a mutant and didn't know it or she was subject to some cosmic fuckery that will be explained later.

Instead it's the same bad bitch no nonsense badass personality Black Widow and Gamora and Hope were all initially. The same bad bitch no nonsense badass that's a stock film character at this point.
Fuck, Mantis was a breath of fresh air. Do you have any idea how SAD that is in retrospect?

are you me

Yet you'll bitch when the male heroes are silly and comedic like Mantis, instead of being stoic badasses. Do you have any idea of how IRONIC that is in retrospect?

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I think Brie Larson's snappy attitude, negativity, flat ass and ugly boobs is all an elaborate set up for Captain Marvel 2, where they adapt the pregnant Spiderwoman run. It turns out Carol was a virgin all along and was filled with femcel rage. Her pregnancy fixes all her flaws, including giving her bigger milkbags and an actual ass.

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I can't believe you people are dumb enough to take the bait.

both infinity war and endgame could use the lord of the rings extended edition treatment with an extra half hour each of character building

Marvel fucked up by not making her a powerful but mildly retarded chick who gets led around by the arm by a confident dude.

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I was thinking as I left the theater "Are they really going to have Banner be the team smart guy from now on?"
Then I remembered they have the rights to Reed Richards again.

>Yet you'll bitch when the male heroes are silly and comedic like Mantis, instead of being stoic badasses.
Do you have any idea how well-liked Ant-Man is?

>Yet you'll bitch when the male heroes are silly and comedic like Mantis,
You mean like Star Lord, Drax, Spider-man, Tony, BASED ANT MAN, and Thor in the movies where he's finally good?
Get better bait. You're practically a Snyderfag.

>Tony is smart dude
Tony invites a terrorist organization to blow up his house. Tony is a long string of dumb choices from the opening scenes of Iron Man onward.
He compensates for this by being better-armed than most anyone he comes into conflict with, not because he outsmarts them. He never outsmarts anyone until his last scene in Endgame.

Still less than he should be.
Ant-Man saved the entire universe.
And he did it from the back of a fucking van.

>All the QUIPS threads were just a figment of your imagination!

It might have been a touch too Looney Tunes but when Rocket started mocking Carol she should have appeared in his telescreen for the rejoinder.

Correct. Tony's smart.
He's not wise.
He's not tactical.
And he's not even really all that experienced if you think a bout it.
Those are all different things.

They were shitposting too.
Likely done by you, actually.

Quiplords don't work when you get it wrong; luckily that has been an exceedingly rare occurrence.

He's comic book science smart.
He never really applies his "genius" onto anything more than making a meaner weapon to smack people with. He doesn't outsmart Ultron; Fury saves his bacon. He dogpiles Whiplash with Rhodey's help. He dogpiles Killian with his weapon suits. He tricks Stane because he almost stupidly died the same way. He cures his own poisoning only because his Dad left him the literal "how to do this" blueprint.
Plot-wise he's absolutely no smarter than Carol.

The only way MCU trolling has significantly changed is it has gone from "The MCU is mostly terrible with some bits I find OK" to "The MCU would be fine if it weren't for Carol, she's now the obsessive focus of my outrage".

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Shut up Carolfag justify her character being stupid enough to wear a nicotine patch capable of restraining the space stone.

Thor had a nicotine patch capable of knocking him on his ass WITH ELECTRICAL SHOCKS.
Carol was an amnesiac who thought she was a Kree with a device giving her S.I. granted powers.

Nah, Carolfagging is the new Snyderfagging. It's the exact same arguments as "You're complaining because you obviously didn't watch man of steel and aren't smart enough to understand the kino"
Carol couldn't even get her own memes and shitposts. She;s that boring and pointless. Instead, she got repurposed DCEU lines with the serial numbers filed off.
And you've proven my point, with your smug ass Yea Forums avatarfagging.

>Nah, Carolfagging is the new Snyderfagging.
Snyderfags were making the Snyder threads.
Carol fags are making a very, very low percentage of the Carol threads. None of them now that Endgame is out.
It's the same fags being faggots. Faggot.

>Carol fags are making a very, very low percentage of the Carol threads.
Except...That's the exact kind of shit a carolfag would say.

Link me to the pro-Carol OP threads. I see more than one Carol Haet Thread up right now. Including this one.
I don't have a problem with you being an OBSESSED Carol hater but turn down the dumbfuck routine.

>Thor had a nicotine patch capable of knocking him on his ass WITH ELECTRICAL SHOCKS.
Man I'm glad I never saw those sequels.

>Look see the counter offensive?! That means there's no offensive!

You're literally creating/bumping Carol threads to bitch about Carol getting attention, discussion and fans.
When the rest of the board is content to make threads about shit they loved in Endgame.

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Can the CGI department do it? Give her a non concave ass?

Quipping is in line with the established personalities of those characters. It's not problem when they do it, it's fitting.
The problem with quipping comes when absolutely fucking everybody is doing it even when it's completely out of character for them to do so.

I honestly find Carol so dislikable and antagonistic I'm starting to like her ironically, every scene she's in I have to contain myself from bursting into laughter, specially when she does the "captain marvel face", I might even watch her movie now after seeing her in endgame.
That interview where thor's actor gets her really angry is 10/10

Exactly the opposite, in fact.

Her movies' awkward and protracted production/release schedule made the IW/EG production unsure about whether or not they could include her at all, so the wrote her into a minor role that could be easily excised if necessary.

This isn't the first time this has happened, either; Captain Marvel was originally set to debut both during Avengers 1 (to be replaced with Black Widow), and at the very end of Age of Ultron (During the "role call" scene at the end, where Scarlet Witch is hovering? SW in that scene was hastily wallpapered over Captain Marvel. That's why she's flying there, and at no other time in the movie.

>early reports say there are two cuts of endgame and Carol features prominently in one of them
>Carol's in maybe 15 minutes max of the theatrical cut
Gee I wonder which one they used

Source?

Reddit post from Feb, also claimed Gamora was the only one from IF who would stay dead

Go back.

Thor: best avenger, lol
In Endgame his role was reduced to constantly whining manchild

Holy shit

Imagine how terrible would be to watch a whole movie with such overreacting crowd
I bet they cried when Tony suicided

This is the first Marvel movie I haven't really been interested in seeing at all. The character in and of herself seems uninteresting, there's no real "hook", and she feels like she's come out of nowhere yet she's somehow really important.

In another thread they're talking about how her solos are going to be filling in the gaps as to where she's been and why she's not helping out with the stuff we've seen already and that just sounds like nonstop damage control and retcons to me.

>was the big reveal in the IW post credit scene (something every normie stays to watch at this point)
>scheduled release literally a month before Endgame
>press articles and interviews stated she would play a significant role in Endgame helping the surviving heroes
>every person I've seen and spoken to who aren't even remotely interested in the Cpt Marvel movie said they went to watch it just to stay up to date for Endgame
user, maybe get out from under your rock and talk to people instead of fapping to Carol femdom porn.. .

Hawkeye oneshots Scarlet Witch in Age of Ultron with a taser arrow thingy, therefore he is number 0 on this list

Renner just gets a 1000% damage bonus against sluts

That can be explained by the fact a shitload of people suddenly materialized out of thin air all across the universe, so she tries to call the Avengers to find out wtf just happened but can't establish a connection since the Headquarters was destroyed.
The logical thing to do in that situation is to haul ass towards Earth because something has obviously taken place there.

Also, while the signal from Fury's device is shown to take a shitload of time to reach other galaxies, standard intergalactic communication can be in real time as shown by the video conference in the beginning of the movie, and also in previous movies like GoTG.

>world
These spaghetti arms

I want to see a sexy southern bombshell Rouge steal her powers and put her in a coma

>The logical thing to do in that situation is to haul ass towards Earth because something has obviously taken place there.
Is she really so overpowered that she can get to earth from anywhere in the what, five, ten minutes it took from the snap to her showing up?
>She was probably close by
Then why not drop in to make sure it goes without a hitch is this not a big deal?

>Is she really so overpowered that she can get to earth from anywhere in the what, five, ten minutes it took from the snap to her showing up?
She can fly at the speed of light.

No retard.

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>All kinds if people read comics, user

Please, try to explain this to Disney and Kevin Feige, they think they have to separate comics just for women and others for the rest

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I'm pretty sure she must be able to access that wormhole network too.

Honestly, normal people don't deserve to have comic book writing inflicted upon them.

>When she rescues the ship

Cap could have traveled back in time at the end of the film in the 90s and told her, on this date be in that coordinates.

So yes.

Bad writing
Professor Hulk It's not Bruce with the Hulk's body.
It is a new personality
Banner is the nerd genius
Hulk is the dumb
Grey Hulk is gangster
Professor Hulk is the young and cool
As I said before, these MCU writers do not do the basic homework, do not research, and do not talk to people like Dale Keown
It's an arrogant lazy job and everyone realizes the mistakes.

and this "women" comics fail in sales
one of the reasons its because women want to see heroines hots and not heroines that look like princess ariel

wtf is that buzzword

It's a classic comic book origin. A deeper explanation could be nice, but as it stands I don't see how it's any different than Bruce getting super powered from a burst of radiation.

Her movie should have come out before IW, it felt like she had no place among the other guys we have already seen around for a while and interacting with each other. She also seems to not give a shit at all about earth.