Wanada is objectively the best female MCU superhero. She's morally complicated, faces challenging dilemmas that make her rethink her beliefs, suffers loss and grows as a character every movie.
Wanada is objectively the best female MCU superhero. She's morally complicated...
Black Widow is better. She's unflinchingly loyal and single-minded in her dedication to the Avengers because she's arguably the most committed to the team as a unit, mostly because they're her family and she has nothing else to commit herself to. She's professional and seemingly aloof, but when push comes to shove she always seems to make the moral choices because it's always been more than a job for her. You get a sense that there's a lot of self-loathing and loneliness to her character, but she never lets it stand in the way of what she has to do like some of her teammates. Winter Soldier, Civil War and now Endgame really made me appreciate her role in the team as the one who's subtly trying to keep them all together.
she has nice tits :)
Yes that too
Agreed, but she's not enough of an antihero as I want to see her be in the MCU. She's too genuinely good natured. Wanda has had more antihero esque moments than her, making her more morally complicated
hopefully we'll get more of an anti-hero Wanda from the web series
She's getting shafted with that shit
She could 1v1 Thanos using her raw magic.
I want an interaction of her and Strange in the future. She need her own movie. Not a series, dammit!
Agreed
yes she deserves a movie with Strange maybe the lead of the MCU X-Men if they come around to doing that
>She's morally complicated, faces challenging dilemmas that make her rethink her beliefs, suffers loss and grows as a character every movie.
Can't wait for them to drop Magneto on her.
I know right? You got a witch and a wizard, they need to hang out,
Magneto literally wouldn't make sense for this version of the character.
just say she was adopted
How?
Her powers come from an infinity stone, not for a mutation
I mean I guess she could, but then why would she not be a mutant?
She's also got a hot smoking bod like YOWWWZAHHH
Magneto does nothing for her character. They should bring back Quicksilver though.
look at those magumbos
Magneto would just be more of the same in terms of what Wanda has, they need to do something different with her character or what she needs to overcome
*what Wanda has to overcome,
I love how Carol made other MCU girls popular
Hydra "giving" her powers could just be a placebo, a sugar pill she was told would her powerful but in reality she already had powers and just didn't understand it before.
So how are they going to introduce mutants ?
Same as how they introduced the sorcerers, they just exist
>that boob peek and erect nipple
unf
that sounds dumb and also pointless and also would literally retcon established facts about the character in the MCU
Elizabeth Olsen is just pure UNF material
Carol > incel fantasies
C-Cute.
>would literally retcon established facts about the character in the MCU
Oh noes! Retcons? Regarding Wanda? What an unheard of horror!
>30 uninterrupted seconds of staring at Emily's face
This is a fetish film, isn't it?
Why did Disney not try and force Olsen's Scarlet Witch as the female face of the franchise? She's undoubtedly their prettiest lead and she comes off as very nice and charming in interviews.
Is it because of the Fox lawsuit surrounding her and Quicksilver?
retcons? in a comic book franchise? NO WAY!!
>Is it because of the Fox lawsuit surrounding her and Quicksilver?
Most likely yes. Sad part is she seems very keen to play Scarlet Witch more since she knows enough about her comic version to know she's meant to a big league character. She even wished there would be a House of M movie adaptation.
She had the rematch against Thanos and the Hulk can not have
They could even do a reverse house of M where she creates mutants
Unfortunately she has one of the worst MCU suits
It looks like a colorful version of Underworld
I like it, sexy neo goth/industrial leather weimar nightclub shit is amazing to me
No. MORE mutants.
Mutant world, or magic world which should she enter into?
>Wanada
Why would you condemn anyone to spending time with mutants? I couldn't imagine anything more horrible.
imagine Wanda sitting on your face
Lol imagine the smell haha
Kill yourself carolshill
Wanda will forever be tied down by coming from the shitshow that was Age of Ultron
Why didn't she just explode Thanos' heart?
That exposed cleavage and push-up bra are quite silly.
>the sexuality and form of women are a joke to me
Go back to your moms basement incel
>you will.
She out Batman'd Batman.
I hate the marvel knights to now approach to Natasha, 80s Nat is best, movie Nat also good, I'm glad the mcu kept the edgy stuff away.
>forever useless
Agreed,
What a good little slut
>still can't smile
lol
Wanada forever!
>morally complicated
>this makes a good superhero
nah lad. superheroes should unironically be paragons of good value and morals. superheroes should do good things for the sake of doing good things. they should save people because its the right thing to do. boyscout superheroes are the best kind of superheroes. but the mcu characters arent superheroes, theyre just sci fi action adventurers and there is literally nothing wrong with that.
yep. now, superman, hes a hero.
its not fair bros
Yes I too do not read Superman but lie about it my friend
what did you mean by that?
If you actually read Superman's (actually just mainline DC) comics you'd know that he's a smart guy and he's a paragon of good. He is morally complicated but reaches a simple conclusion
>He is morally complicated but reaches a simple conclusion
hes not morally complicated though. the guy just does the right thing because its the right thing to do
Wrong, that's his initial state as a kid from Smallville (and maybe if you only watch the movies). He deals with situations that constantly cause him to put his morals in check and he still reaches the same conclusion
He starts off doing good because it's what he was taught to do, later he does good because he validates that it's the right thing to do
>later he does good because he validates that it's the right thing to do
right. he does good because it is the right thing to do. theres no moral ambiguity or complication. thats what im saying.
GOD
DAMMIT
>theres no moral ambiguity or complication. thats what im saying.
I just stated that there are moral complications, it's just that by the end he always justifies doing the right thing in them. You saying that him reaching a simple conclusion and therefore not having moral complications is like saying Ozymandias has no moral complications because he just really believes in himself
Do you honestly think that over 80 years of Superman comics it's just been "dude punches villain" with no moral complications
Captain Marvel getting a movie before either of these two and most other MCU female heroes was a travesty.
>"dude punches villain" with no moral complications
for superman, yes.
...
Wanda was always popular here, Mantis too. Carol has nothing to do with that.
Yeah so I'm just going to ignore moviefags and just list some awesome heroines
>Zatanna
>Mera
>Wonder Woman
>She Hulk (before Marvel ruined her)
>Big Barda
>dat zettai ryouiki
Truly best girl in every way possible.
Not to mention Winter Soldier and Civil War involve her making very real sacrifices just going along with Steve's actions. Putting her record out there, being forced into hiding, she loses all the legitimacy and freedom she earned working for shield over the course of a few years, not to mention the only human being she felt romantic attachment to bailed in the middle of a crisis and vanished for two years.
Nat's professional and personal life have both been ruined by the Avengers but she still loves them like family.
If you have to wear a push up bra to have hot boobs you don't have hot boobs.
If only she didn't like wearing bras, so we could know for sure.
And here's our proof.
wrong
>yfw Elizabeth Olsen is more famous than her sisters now
What the fuck are Mary Kate and Ashley up to these days?
>He thinks Wanda is a good character
>He thinks Wanda has grown since AoU
Yeah, sure. Call me when she gets to do something besides brood and scream over people dying around her.
she's getting a whole tv show. calm down
I gotta say, Marvel always does a great job of showing her tits
when they turned 18, they quit acting and instead whent into designing fashion clothes and shoes.
ARGH
I am SO fucking torn
>those arms
why in gods name did they never show her muscles off in any movie
>What the fuck are Mary Kate and Ashley up to these days?
Being skeletons fueled by cocaine
>gets ripped
>her film costume is highly practical, so it covers her arms
welp
Nat > Nebula > Wanda > Pepper > Okoye > Hope > Gamora > Mantis > Shuri > Valkyria > Carol
I just wanna bang her gay son.
I forgot about him, that little fuck boy
>be bi
>imagine the threesome
>the carolfag returns
get a life mate
Did Disney forget to tell the paid shills to start promoting Endgame and they're all still shilling Carol?
>she's getting a whole tv show.
Truly a wonder women
This.
How long until she meets her real father?
The MCU should keep her having nothing to do with mutants.
Reveal current Marvel U is the House of M world without mutants and she has to snap out of it in a vaguely psychological horror influenced movie. She snaps out, mutants are back because they were always there but they weren't but they were.
MUH DICK
Pretty sure she tried to blast him from the inside,but you know...the ship and all that.
Carolfags, get a load of this user
We didn't appreciate what we had until we were shown the worst possible addition to the franchise.
Same.
>6 X-Men movies
>7th movie this year
>3 Wolverine movies
>2 Deadpool movies
>New Mutants movie this year
>2 live-action X-Men TV shows
>At least 4 animated X-Men shows
>1st ever Wanda/Vision show
>Want to make it about mutants
>Want to make it about Magneto
Why are X-fags so selfish and entitled? Everything you get given and it's still never enough, you need to take this as well?
I know right give the MCU some breathing room before X mania.
Oh god.
> How dare you fall in love with a robot, Wanda! We mutants are better than all life on this Earth! Kill the humans my daughter!
i'd much prefer wanda get to have a peaceful meta existence in at least one universe
i think she's single
goodluck
You're right about one thing: nobody fantasizes over Carol.
>What the fuck are Mary Kate and Ashley up to these days?
counting their millions
>You're right about one thing: nobody fantasizes over Carol.
Carol fantasizes about being that cat that's more popular than she is.
The comics won't let Wanda and Vision be together and be happy, the movies didn't do it either, this show needs to let her save him, and give them a happy ending for once.
I mean, I guess this would be okay.
As much as I dont like the Wanda+Vision pairing, cause Vision is a fuckn robot lol
>adventurer
so now the mouse wants us to think CEOs are the real hero? cringe.
Olsen: 2 minutes of screen time.
Larson: 15 minutes of screen time.
"There are no small parts, only small actors"
Olsen's delivery of "You took everything from me" is fucking heartbreaking and terrifying.
Meanwhile, Larson's delivery of her dialogue is more wooden than Groot.
> Agamotto totally REEEing when he finds out about Wanda's magic.
> Doctor Strange talking to a huge caterpillar who is losing his shit.
>boobveins
hot
> Powered by an evil, dangerous Elder God, who sees himself as her dad, the supreme master of dark magics, feared by Agamotto.
> Wanda uses his Chaos Magic for good, but its nature is very ambivalent, and because he is literally part of her, he is no easy to defeat villain.
> Magneto poses zero threat to Wanda, whereas Chthon is the ultimate existential nightmare.
>As much as I dont like the Wanda+Vision pairing, cause Vision is a fuckn robot lol
It's a story about the two weirdest Avengers finding love together. It simply isn't as interesting or compelling if you replace him with a human, as the comics have proved repeatedly.
> Chthon actually develops Wanda's character and makes her fight for ownership of her powers, to defy his corrupting influence. Chthon orbits around Wanda.
> Magneto is always the center of the story and Wanda is pretty much a satellite to make him look sympathetic.
Gee, I wonder which one is better for Wanda's character.
She beat the living shit out of Thanos. Dominated him and made him have to beg for help like a huge coward.
I know Feige has said the characters can go back to the movies, and I think that is the case with Sam and Bucky, but with Lizzie and Paul I'm pessimistic. I think Bettany will never appear in a future MCU movie; he was not even mentioned by name in Endgame, and Lizzie's screen-time was so small it screamed demotion.
Honestly, I dont disagree with you, as far as the comics, but in the MCU I'm not sure if I buy that.
Hawkeye is surrogate dad, Widow was surrogate mom-sister? Cap surrogate big brother
So I mean, yes theres no one left to pair her with besides Peter or Carol, and that really doesn't work with the Carol we know thus far.
I guess theres Bucky or Sam, but eh
So I guess Vision wins by default, but in context of the MCU I dont think it /has/ to play out that way. Or course, this means she'd need to be paired with a new character, so meh.
yeah Paul Bettany isn't coming back lol
Lizzie's screen time has been pretty small in all of her appearances desu, but that really speaks to the strength of her acting/characterization of Wanda.
With that two minutes in Endgame she stood out almost as much as the rest of the cast who were on screen the whole film and that says alot.
This, She has her own lore and history, and the mutant stuff leads to her stories getting sidelined so she can be used as plot device for the X-Men. She's never been treated as a proper character by X-Men writers.
Her mystical lore not only offers great stories for her, it also has the potential to pit Doctor Strange against the Vishanti and his fellow sorcerers,including maybe even Doctor Doom, leading to Kamar Taj even splitting into two factions, one led by Strange the other by Mordo.
>Doctor Strange sequel is him teaming up with her to stop Doctor Doom
I hope its about Wanda trying to restore Vision's emotions, Chthon putting a new soul in Vision, then possessing him.
Agatha Harkness trains Wanda to harness her own power and save Vision from Chthon, the creepy alien dad being who is part of her, who embodies her darkest emotions.
That is pure kino and actually feminist in a cool way.
Her story is one of actual empowerment as she has to truly fight for her humanity and place in the world. Her growing into a witch, at last finding her calling, would be fucking beautiful.
is that actually lizzie??
w-where did you get those
Is Wanda and Vision's show a prequel or what?
Ok, I don't mean to pry or come off as pedantic but what the fuck is going on with that outfit?
Some kind of tattered frill instead of a bra, aleather shirt with a Y shape, a jacket with a high collar and zippers on the outside as well as some kind of mesh or net texture and a clamp up front and some kind of two hangtails up front, X-Box Huge bracers over fingerless gloves and pants that look like they're made of plastic.
And on top of all this they couldn't give her a tiara?
Magic Bro: Strange
Mentor: Agatha Harkness
> Fans wanted her to meet Strange, maybe have a little interaction with him...
> But no, instead she gets to stand in the background behind Carol saying nothing.
I like the idea of them making a costume that has a hood and long coat with lots of ornate details. Red and black with pink trim.
She better have a fucking new, witchy costume in her series.
Recent leaks. Check the ring around her neck, see here - It's her.
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ehhhhh, gosh this feels so creepy
You know you're on Yea Forums, right?
Girls who dress in lingerie are based, and Lizzie has excellent taste in lingerie. Sexy lady.
Lingerie is one of the greatest visual pleasures a man can witness.
They are from 2014. Olsen closed all her social media in 2015 and only uses Instagram now.
yes, but that doesn't make it any less creepy.
If someone was posting my personal pictures I wouldn't like it... the context is different given she's a celeb and i'm not, but guys perving over me still feels not good so me doing it to another girl makes me feel a bit gross
Same here. The good thing is she only has Instagram now so things should be okay on that front.
I know if it happened to me I'd be upset and hurt.
The people who did the original hacks are the bad guys. Fuck them. Once they are leaked they are out there and millions will see them regardless, there is no reason we shouldn't enjoy them also. It's normal and natural to find her body beautiful regardless of context.
> but guys perving
Perverse = unnatural.
Pedos & necros are unnatural.
There is nothing perverse/unnatural about being attracted to the adult body of a gorgeous celebrity.
This makes me so angry. When this show was announced/rumoured, all the YouTube fags and X-Fans immediately started demanding it be about Magneto and mutants, and wanted Vision, a character who has already been shafted by the Russo's, totally sidelined.
The screen-times of the X-Fags version of WandaVision:
Magneto 5 hours (endless wanking of Magneto, Wanda has no dialogue, only he talks).
Wolverine (he has nothing to do with Wanda but we have shill him!) 4 hours
Xavier 4 hours
Rogue: 2 hours
Storm: 1 hour
Wanda 15 minutes (used to introduce X-Men then put on a bus)
Vision 1 minute (brief cameo)
There are literally millions, if not billions, of photos that have been put out willingly by sexy women all over the internet. Looking at leaked photos is still wrong, not as wrong as leaking at them of course (this isn't me equating masturbating to rape as I've seen some do on the internet) but anyone doing so knows what they're doing and knows there are thousands of other places they can find similar material. And I've totally jacked off to fappening photos, so this isn't me trying to preach.
>There is nothing perverse/unnatural about being attracted to the adult body of a gorgeous celebrity.
>Once they are leaked they are out there and millions will see them regardless, there is no reason we shouldn't enjoy them also.
>It's normal and natural to find her body beautiful regardless of context.
....okay you got me there
>I know if it happened to me I'd be upset and hurt.
yeah, I found out my ex shared some lingerie pics I sent her with other people and I was pretty upset.
getting hacked is ass though, it makes me very paranoid about using cloud storage and shit like that.
Instagram seems more secure
And also it would be worse if she was a genuine nevernude like LostWasp who gets genuinely emotionally distressed about people seeing her form but Olsen has both done nude scenes on film and like 3 times worm dresses to events that full on show her nipples. See pic related.
> yeah, I found out my ex shared some lingerie pics I sent her with other people and I was pretty upset.
Genuinely sorry.
>I want an interaction of her and Strange in the future
Why? She's even less magic based in the movies than she is in the comics. She's basically just euro trash Jean Grey in the movies.
I do think sending nudes if you're a celebrity is like going to a bad part of town in a tux though. People who leak/rob you are still bad people but...what did you expect?
what the fuck happened to Yea Forums while I was gone
>morally complicated
What?
WANDAVISION
My speculation...
Main and Key Characters:
Wanda Maximoff
Vision
Agatha Harkness
Chthon
Supporting Characters:
Erik Williams -Dominic West
Simon Williams - Nathan Fillion
Holly
Vertigo (inevitable stronk black woman)
Modred the Mystic
Ancient One -Tilda Swinton
Pietro Maximoff - Aaron Taylor Johnson
i don't know but it's a shame. not to mention that she's also a much better actress than any of their other female leads.
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Having seen Endgame I now believe part, not all, of this story, might have a slither of truth.
Wanda: You took everything from me!
Bendis: I don't even know your lore!
Wanda: You will.
Did he though?
>One problem. I now can't jerk off to Lena Paul anymore.
She was a baddie in AoU and she accidentally killed people in CW but didn't want them to put her in a cell afterwards even though that's where a FILTHY ugly MUTIE like HER belongs.
>HOLY SHIT HER LORE IS TOO DEEP!
you aren't wrong, but its ass not being able to do normal people things just bc of your job
sending nudes or selfies to your then bf/gf is fun
true true true
a lil nipple isn't that much, but yeah she's done full nude scenes so you have a point there
i really like the dress there desu, do you know what the event was?
>Genuinely sorry.
thanks. i got over it, since I realized she was showing people to brag about me, but its still weird knowing that a number of people have seen me nude without me knowing lol
and that was how I learned not to take nudes with my face in them kek
>Did he though?
wanda is still recovering from the character assassination bendis did 15+ years ago
she's not actually murdered anyone though, has she?
Wananda Forever!
> When Thanos says, "I don't know who you are", he sounds like a Marvel Comics editor.
Wanda was actually absolute hype. Her and Strange tag teaming would have wiped the floor with a gloveless Thanos. She was grrl power done right and they chose the right female to kill off. We started this shit with Natasha. Shame the first female movie was with Captain Mungo instead of Black Widow.
Tom Brevoort does have a genuine encyclopedic knowledge of the Marvel Universe, he helped with Busiek and Perez's run, he just doesn't care.
I think it was my favorite moment of the movie, or at the very least of the final battle scene.
Feige has said has literally said she is wielding "chaotic magic", and her eyes turn red only when she is feeling specific emotions, i.e anger, hate, etc.
Its my favourite fight scene. It has emotion and it is shot fucking beautifully; the shot of Wanda rising into the air, and that amazing shot of her charging at Thanos and fighting him head on.
Its like a great concept art come to life.
And that fucking smile...pure fucking hate.
They get everything, we get next to nothing, and they still want to take even that from us. The way they inevitably always seem to get what they want means there is a real risk of MCU Wanda getting connected to Magneto eventually, but there's a greater chance this show is just a vehicle to introduce Wiccan or Viv Vision, for a Young Avengers movie, while Wanda and Vision never appear in another movie.
I dont think Lizzie would do it if it was just a backdoor entry for some other characters and not wanda finally getting her due
Ii get that she doesnt want to wear the sw hooker outfit, but cmon put on the circlet/headress/crown.
When she binds Thanos
What's the context of that webm?
Actually after seeing Endgame I now get why Olsen was unhappy about the cleavage situation.
All the other actresses get to cover up and most had way more screentime. She gets 2 minutes screentime, and cleavage galore.
Now, I love looking at Lizzie's Olsen twins, but that is fucking unfair, the other ladies should have cleavage as well, or everyone should get to cover up. Even my boner agrees it's unfair.
This. She and Bettany should keep out any "Young Avengers" and X-men shoehorning.
> WandaVision gets announced...
"OMG They should totally make it about Magneto, and have Wolverine in it and have Wanda be like Magneto's princess, and they could have her make mutants! Have her say more mutants, and then she can fuck off now we've pumped and dumped her!"
"Let's just make Wanda a mutant, even though that deprives her of an arch nemesis and her entire rogues gallery and Agatha Harkness, whose totally not important to her character arc, so let's dump her, and who cares about Vision he's just a toaster.
These people make me want to go postal.
I’m glad someone is saying it. I’d much rather a deep mystical dive with Agatha Harkness, Chaos Magic, and Set or Cthon than Magneto daddy issues and reality-warping mutant stuff.
Why would a character be good let alone the best just for meeting a mainstream Writing 101 checklist?
>tfw casuals care about and want to see more of Wanda and fucking Okoye than "main" heroines like Carol.
This is pretty much the best thing about the MCU. If this ends up actually pushing Marvel to explore their characters who fall outside the established A-list (yeah I know Wanda is a very important, old as fuck B-lister that's straddling the line, whatever) instead of trying to force characters into A-list with "WOOO GIRL POWA" and unearned legacies, it's be nice.
Go read Pre-Crisis. Clark's just a weirdo pushing himself to do the right thing.
Shredder killed Splinter at the end of season 3, in season 4 they travel back in timeand change the timeline so that doesn't happen (just so he can be killed at a slightly later date).