March 2019 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 100's

> 73. SNOTGIRL TP VOL 02 CALIFORNIA SCREAMING (IMAGE COMICS)
> 74. JESUSFREAK HC (IMAGE COMICS)
> 75. BPRD HELL ON EARTH HC VOL 05 (DARK HORSE COMICS)
> 76. WALKING DEAD TP VOL 01 DAYS GONE BYE (IMAGE COMICS)
> 77. CROWDED TP VOL 01 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 78. OBLIVION SONG BY KIRKMAN & DE FELICI TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMAGE COMICS)
> 79. ARCHIE MEETS BATMAN 66 TP (ARCHIE COMIC PUBLICATIONS)
> 80. MOB PSYCHO 100 TP VOL 02 (DARK HORSE COMICS)
> 81. CODA TP VOL 01 (BOOM! STUDIOS)
> 82. NEW TEEN TITANS TP VOL 10 (DC COMICS)
> 83. STAR WARS SOLO GN (IDW PUBLISHING)
> 84. BATMAN ARKHAM RAS AL GHUL TP (DC COMICS)
> 85. IMMORTAL HULK TP VOL 02 GREEN DOOR (MARVEL COMICS)
> 85. WOLVERINE EPIC COLLECTION TP BACK TO BASICS (MARVEL COMICS)
> 87. ARIA MANGA MASTERPIECE OMNIBUS GN VOL 01 (TOKYOPOP)
> 88. WHAT IF? WITH GREAT POWER TP (MARVEL COMICS)
> 89. SAGA DLX ED HC VOL 01 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 90. DEADLY CLASS TP VOL 07 LOVE LIKE BLOOD (MR) (IMAGE COMICS)
> 91. BOYS OMNIBUS TP VOL 01 (MR) (DYNAMITE)
> 92. SANDMAN TP VOL 06 FABLES & REFELCTIONS 30TH ANNIV ED (MR) (DC COMICS)
> 93. STAR WARS EMPIRE STRIKES BACK GN (IDW PUBLISHING)
> 94. SGT FURY EPIC COLLECTION TP HOWLING COMMANDOS (MARVEL COMICS)
> 95. DEADLY CLASS TP VOL 05 CAROUSEL (MR) (IMAGE COMICS)
> 96. ISOLA TP VOL 01 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 97. STAR WARS EWOKS TP FLIGHT TO DANGER (MARVEL COMICS)
> 98. CURSE WORDS TP VOL 04 QUEEN MARGARET (MR) (IMAGE COMICS)
> 99. DECADES MARVEL 60S TP SPIDER-MAN MEETS MARVEL UNIVERSE (MARVEL COMICS)
> 100. BEASTS OF BURDEN WISE DOGS & ELDRITCH MEN HC (DARK HORSE COMICS)

Source: previewsworld.com/Article/228893-Exclusive-Marchs-Top-100-Best-Selling-Graphic-Novels

Oh I know. But the way Yea Forums talks about Superman sometimes, I just feel it bears reminding now and then.

> 1. DETECTIVE COMICS #1000 (DC COMICS)
> 2. BATMAN WHO LAUGHS THE GRIM KNIGHT #1 (DC COMICS)
> 4. BATMAN #67 (DC COMICS)
> 5. BATMAN #66 (DC COMICS)
> 22. SUPERMAN #9 (DC COMICS)
> 28. HARLEY QUINN #59 (DC COMICS)
> 29. CATWOMAN #9 (DC COMICS)
> 31. ACTION COMICS #1009 (DC COMICS)
Goddamn. Even Harley Quinn and Catwoman are selling higher than Action Comics and most of other DC characters. The other character above them, aside from one Superman title, is Green Lantern.

I feel that the only reason the Catwoman ongoing sell so much is because some dedicated Batcat fans still feel that King's run will end up with Batman and Catwoman marrying. So they're following both Batman and Catwoman religiously to see if there are any hints here and there to support their hope.

I say this because recently the shippers have been making Joelle Jones life a living hell for having introduced a black love interest for Selina in the Catwoman ongoing.

>BLACKED Cat
what was DC's big idea cucking Batman
I'm willing to bet it was bendis' idea

> 29. CATWOMAN #9 (DC COMICS)
> Catwoman #8 was at number 48 in Febuary
glad to see good writes likes Ram V who made a fun Catwoman story for once featuring about Selina being a tease and thief getting rewarded with good sales.
I don´t hate the woman who currently writers and draws Catwoman. Lady Killer was pretty fun. But she is a terrible fit for the character. Selina needs to be drawn and act sexy again

see
Catwoman selling this high is a huge exception not the norm.
Issue number 9 was a one shot written by a different team because the current writer/artist needed a break. The one shot actually had Selina flirt with a cute blond police officer and was really good

>I say this because recently the shippers have been making Joelle Jones life a living hell for having introduced a black love interest for Selina in the Catwoman ongoing.
good. fuck this cuck shit.

harley quinn #58 sold 36,010 in febuary.
you think here being this high this month means that comic sales overall were really bad in march?

>the shippers have been making Joelle Jones life a living hell
That's some hyperbole.

>> 8. SUPER SONS THE POLARSHIELD PROJECT TP DC ZOOM (DC COMICS)
>> 10. MERA TIDEBREAKER TP DC INK (DC COMICS)
REALLY hoped it would be reversed. I'm really curious about the total copies sold of those two.

I would guess something between 10k and 20k copies

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It sell well because of the variant covers. Same case with Batgirl and Supergirl.

when do we get real numbers?

Tomorrow

No, it isn't. Batcat shippers are fucking made. They almost drove the girl that played the character in the Gotham TV show into suicide, because the girl said in some dumb interview that the Batcat relationship was toxic and she couldn't see the characters together and happy in the future.

>22. SUPERMAN #9 (DC COMICS)
>> 31. ACTION COMICS #1009 (DC COMICS)
>46. YOUNG JUSTICE #3 (DC COMICS)
HAAHAHAHAH poor Bendis.

>1. DETECTIVE COMICS #1000 (DC COMICS)
Good.

Ok. I'm sure getting some angry tweets on Twitter is a "living hell" in your mind, but it isn't in the minds of normal people.

>> 46. YOUNG JUSTICE #3 (DC COMICS)
Nobody Likes Conner Kent or Tim Drake.

>tfw Image comics sells less than 10% of floppies, but 50% of the top 20 TPBs ( and 70% of the top 10 )
I'm starting to think that they should just push more directly to the book store market and bypass the LCS altogether.

You're talking to someone defending black cucked shit. Of course she thinks rude tweets are the end of the world.

it's nice but when will they give the actual numbers? for all we know anything below top 10 could already be under the cancellation line.

> 27. IMMORTAL HULK #14 (MARVEL COMICS)
> 17. IMMORTAL HULK #15 (MARVEL COMICS)
Goddamn that's some high returns... I wonder how high it could get if it gets that Eisner.
> 14. COSMIC GHOST RIDER DESTROYS MARVEL HISTORY #1 (MARVEL COMICS)
Just why, man? This shit only exists to sell covers, it's a stupid character.

> 73. DOCTOR STRANGE #12 (MARVEL COMICS)
This is also too low... It's a shame people aren't reading this more, it's been amazing.
>32. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #3 (MARVEL COMICS)
This, on the other hand, isn't low enough. But we'll see how it fares in June.

Maybe a decade and a half ago.

Superman title still have the lifetime sales tally

normies gonna normie

Also this is just Diamond and not retailers. Mera might have done better in places like Target and standard booksellers.

>25. GREEN LANTERN #5 (DC COMICS)

beautiful

Man, DC doing good

Hey it improved from last month, so it ain’t that bad. Strange has never been the most popular anyways

They cool, bendis a shit. It's for their good.

Based on what? It's only issue 3 but according to that they're outselling the rest of their family members (obviously excepting Batman and Superman).

>I-I'm not a c-casual, I was actually making a different point
Fuck off. Batman's been THE about chip for years.

They always do.

his books will be huge in the summer now that he is about to go event mode

Remember what happened with Civil War 2?

Civil War 2 actually sold very well, despite being terrible. Secret Empire was the one who sold badly, though not too awfully.
There was a chart a while ago explaining the sales for every Marvel event, I'll try and find it.

The contrast between Comic books sales and Graphic novels sales is huge. Others companies from Marvel and DC barely exist in the former while they dominated the later.

Which displays the contrast in operational ability between slow, GN based release schedules and weekly/monthly books that may or may not be collected.

There's a reason they're called the big two and why the big two still focus to a large degree on floppies; consistent, return customers are more reliable than quarterly or even less frequent trade waiters or trade only readers. The GN market is better served by crowdfunding based on fact that trade waiters are really thieves who will only pay when theyve read and like something or think it's worth a social media post. With crowdfunding you know your audience and have up front payment. Floppies have this upfront payment already built in because of the drug dealer way in which LCSs buy comics on the front.

Kek

Didn't it give an initial push for the books that tied in, then immediately killed sales for them on the second issue?

was PAD too busy to come back??

Can't say for sure, but the actual issue with the event came near the end when Bendis decided to do some last minute rewrites, making the main event come out much later than every tie-in and longer than initially reported, and some of these were also delayed and came out AFTER the event was done. The whole thing was a disaster in terms of scheduling.
In terms of sales, well that's another issue altogether. Too bad I can't find the chart because in it you could see the dip between CW2 and Secret Empire.

So the top 10 is just a bunch of DC stuff and some spiderman? No surprise there

Found a version of it

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Yeah, I saw that, don't think it'll go anywhere. Selina's back in Gotham in this week's Harley Quinn and still isn't over Bruce and is drowning herself in whisky

I was gonna bitch about some selling too much, then I looked again at the names and it dawned on me... all of those were shit. I was gonna say Infinity sold too little, but then I realized it was Hickman's one a few years ago, not the recent Infinity something.
Fuck that noise.

Additional: Besides when has paring up a popular love interest with a black and cucking the lead ever stuck? Babs had Luke and that was dropped when she briefly left Burnside and then went right back to Dick, and MJ ditched Peter for "Pedro" in Spider-Man only to dump him off-panel, work for Tony in a professional capacity and never had another love interest until Spencer paired her back up with Peter. Selina isn't going to have a serious relationship with this new nigger, all this is is solace.

>68. MAGNIFICENT MS MARVEL #1 (MARVEL COMICS)
>#1 starting off at 68
>miles's 4th chapter beat her #1
>there are people that thought Kamala was the most successful legacy

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>Overshipping hasn’t happened to any significant extent for years
Bullshit. It was what, two years ago retailers were complaining about it at SDCC?

>Superman and Action that low
Jesus Christ Bendis sank it.

based Ram V

He did say "for a couple years now". Time flies, my user. We should start counting by Carol reboots to keep track of time.

I think this one you can thank solely on Bendis. Even his die hard fans probably can't take his shit anymore.

IIRC it sold well compared to Original Sin and Axis, but looked like a drop from Secret Wars and underperformed compared to Millar's Civil War. Problem is, there was a lot stacked in Civil War II's favor, it had Bendis, whose events (even while bad) would still sell better than some other events, there was a Civil War movie out that year, and they also had solicitations saying a character would die, and the first Civil War continued to sell well in TPB form so you'd figure people would go and buy out of curiosity. But it didn't have good reception, and the death received an indifferent reaction.

>Walking Dead used to be in top five or ten now it is in the thirties

What happened? Understandable this arc is kind of boring but it was really exciting at the start. I guess some fatigue from the TV show is one of the reasons.

Fatigue from TV show, but still doing vastly better than before the show started. Back in 2008, it was usually at the 23,000 range.

Miles got the advantage of having a really good animated film a few months ago.

savage shores is easily the best american comic I have read in years

I remembered the tie-in issues DID get affected by CW2, but in a negative way. Usually tie-ins get a boost from connecting with an event. This time around though it either had little effect or actually hurt books tying in.

This. You'd have to wait until Bookscan chart shows up next year to find out how well it did outside of comic shops.

>Just why, man?

Retailers were still going on the popularity of Cosmic Ghost Rider. The real question I have is how well it sells in the subsequent months.

The rise of DC

Hope the GotG annual sells well though the guest talent is pretty decent.

>Fantastic Four and Immortal Hulk outselling every non-Spider-man Marvel book

Carol's movie made over a billion dollars and is behind miles. Movies don't really help comic sales much if at all.

>Carol's movie made over a billion dollars
Minus self-bought tickets budget

>> 1. DETECTIVE COMICS #1000 (DC COMICS)
>> 2. BATMAN WHO LAUGHS THE GRIM KNIGHT #1 (DC COMICS)
>> 3. DOOMSDAY CLOCK #9 (DC COMICS)
>> 4. BATMAN #67 (DC COMICS)
>> 5. BATMAN #66 (DC COMICS)
>> 6. HEROES IN CRISIS #7 (DC COMICS)
>> 10. JUSTICE LEAGUE #20 (DC COMICS)

>> 2. DETECTIVE COMICS 80 YEARS OF BATMAN DLX ED HC (DC COMICS)
>> 7. BATMAN TP VOL 09 THE TYRANT WING (DC COMICS)
>> 8. SUPER SONS THE POLARSHIELD PROJECT TP DC ZOOM (DC COMICS)
>> 10. MERA TIDEBREAKER TP DC INK (DC COMICS)
Yep, it's us again.

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I heard Marvel has him under a contract where they pay him to do nothing so he doesn't go back to DC.

Hopefully Zoom's Supersons does well enough vs Bendis's shit that Jon ends up getting deaged.

>Bendis literally crashing the Superman family with no survivors
Why is this allowed

>Bragging about these
Shame on you, shame on your house, shame on DC

no its so he has health insurance

PAD still writes stuff. Symbiote Spider-Man is excellent and redeems him for how awful Scarlet Spider was. PAD never liked Ben Reily.

Since the 1960’s. That’s why Brave and the Bold went from being a book with stories about different heroes to Batman’s team up book. It simply sold more.

I don't read comics so I don't care.

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go fuck yourself, you dumb internet moron.....literally the human race collective iq would increase tenfold if you ever were toleave the planet.

Oh wow, so, you like watching grown men in staged exhibitions of sports entertainment.
You probably even wear jerseys with other men's names on posted on your back.

I blind buy everything user, especially omnis. Over sized and new to me is how I want my comics. Reading on tablet sucks compared to paper, or I’d use Marvel Unlimited.

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>Even Harley Quinn and Catwoman are selling higher than Action Comics and most of other DC characters.
Well maybe if they didn't deliberately ruin every single Superman comic by putting Bendis in charge they'd sell more. It's a total failure on DC themselves, not from the character.

Yikes This nigga's upset

Are you retarded? Where the fuck have you been dumbass? Spider-Man took the crown from Supes decades ago, and now Bats took the crown from him.

>DC IS DEAD
Sure it is, Marvirgin.

I have never seen anyone on Yea Forums claim Superman was a more popular hero than Batman. Nice try kid.

as any sane person he is probably fed up with the influx of idiotic posts from the usual incels

Don't worry I definitely believe you bought a ticket

It's where they're heading imo. They have already started to put out series that skip floppies and go straight to trade.

>MCUcks
>sane

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They’re at the same point they were under Tomasi and Jurgens so nothing has really changed.

>that obsessed user again

Why should they? You do know all the financial risk on creator-owned Image books is on the creators and not Image itself, right? There's no good reason for them to switch to tpb obly.

>Civil War II selling that well
At least it got the biggest dropout of all events.

Secret Wars had a beautiful free fall after the first issue, though. At least 8 variant covers if I recall.

Marvel may got a movie formula down, but DC doing it right where it actually counts, for the readers.

Indeed, at the very least that's the GOTG issue I'd like to buy, given who are involved. The rest can sink for all I care.
Yep, nobody was happy over those tie-ins, they derailed everything in a bad way. Ms Marvel in particular took a long time to recover from that hit.
It's funny how the actual comic is awful, specially #1 in particular, but retailers got duped into buying it based on the character anyway. Not sure how long it's gonna take until that bubble bursts.

What titles?

but the miniseries right now is more fun than the original

The story go nowhere, this shit is just a gorefest without any message or purpose.

>trade waiters
>thieves
>for buying only quality content they know they want to own
So you either work in the industry or what..? Sorry user, I'm not required to pay for a product twice (floppies + trade). I don't even have to buy new. You might as well call second (and third, fourth, ect) hand sales theft too, as the publisher sees profit only once.

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>trade waiters are really thieves who will only pay when theyve read
How did I miss this? This is a nuclear take. How the fuck are they thieves when they're purchasing the collected editions? You're assuming all of them are pirates who read it off the internet and not people who can't be arsed paying extra for floppies when trades are cheaper, no ads, better presentation and overall much more quality.

>purchasing the collected editions
This. Fuck that user. I just bought the Gotham Central and the Seven Soldiers omnibus collections new in foil. And somehow I'm a thief because I saw them in storytimes and that was what actually inspired me to buy.

Well, I mean. They could make more quality content and then release it in trades, that would really help sales. Are they re-releasing Annihilation trades? Or just floppy runs written SPECIFICALLY for trades which take six issues for a crappy story instead of six good ones?

No. Tomasi and Jurgens made top 10.

Half my current collection are things I would've never paid for unless I read them on the internet first, or things that are more rare and learned by association... Not because I spent hundreds of dollars in floppies just to be a "real collector".
It's ridiculous to attack trade waiters, when the real culprit here is the entire market depending on singles. >Are they re-releasing Annihilation trades?
They did because I bought it, although I think you're speaking hypotheticals here?

>They did because I bought it, although I think you're speaking hypotheticals here?
Bit of both, heard it had been out of market for a good while. The Omnibus I think?
Either way, I can only buy if they release a TP in my country. Only managed to get a few issues.
But if I were looking for shit like Civil War or Bendis crap OH LOOK, there are tons of leftovers on the shelves.

We're rapidly approaching a time where words entirely lose their meanings to the point concepts like theft become too broad to apply. Yet that doesn't stop people and it doesn't stop punitive action in some cases either. It's enraging.

You can bet that if DC felt they could win/it was worth it, they would sue someone for having read an issue of Watchmen online when they have several editions of the trade sat on their shelf. It's sickening how greedy corperations have been allowed to get.

Not the omnibus, they released the whole thing in two volumes. Really good quality too, check the pic.
What's sad is that a lot of people end up reading back issues of series and characters that haven't been collected yet, or even digitized, yet they expect people to buy everything despite not even existing anymore. What am I gonna do, scour every comic book store in backwater towns to find all issues of DP7 that come after the single volume they released as a pittance? At that point I even doubt it gives them any profit.

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It does look pretty neat

nah sjws and feminists are still the worst since they are the once with all the power killing gaming, tvs and comics

I wish DC's problems were caused by those but they're not. They're caused by Didio and his cronies wanting DC to be cross between the silver age and 90's marvel image and having a all encompassing hatred for the Titans franchise, the JSA, Legacy characters in general, Marriage and family, and the general concepts of hope and optimism.

I don´t get to stare at cleavage and ass anymore when reading a comic
I would say that is mostly the fault of sjws

LMAO
Yeah pal, the industry is failing because there's supposedly no more women wearing bikinis for battle.

it has been a huge staple of the industry and now it´s pretty much outlawed. of course it´s going to have massive negative impacts

It most definitely hasn't been. Every fucking time you outragefags complain about the same thing while lacking the understanding behind the current slump. Cheesecake is most definitely not even a secondary cause, no matter how much you try to spin it.

Fine you mouth breathers complain about a supposed lack of fanservice.

Meanwhile I'll actually care about the characters.

22 isn't even low for Superman

That's KINDA wrong, though. DiDio and friends' DC has been time and again edgier than silver or 90s anything.

>Captain Marvel #3, 58
>Wonder Woman#67, 47
So it's official. Movies are irrelevant to comic sales

the only thing that still sales are comics which come with sexy variant covers.
you guys let your own personal political views blind you from facts
the moment comics started to go "woke" is when sales started to crash and fans got rebelled.
is amazing that marvel can´t manage to break 100k even through the have several multi billion dollar films based on their ips

The Silver age part refers to their preference for the Silver age characters, like Barry Allen. And yes in trying to emulate 90's marvel/image edge they've managed to surpass it. And they even revel in it.

The second post you quoted was sarcastic, I actually do care about the characters. It's why I dig some of the new series
Oh it's you again, the guy who types
Like this
Line after line, matter-of-factly
Without citing sources
Without being objective

>the only thing that still sales are comics which come with sexy variant covers.
And no my dude, Batman and Spider-Man don't need sexy variant covers to sell, neither do Venom and Immortal Hulk.

Sorry it's hard to tell sometimes

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Almost forgot
DC doesn't have any problem delivering fanservice. It's one of their few good qualities.

>And no my dude, Batman and Spider-Man don't need sexy variant covers to sell
factually wrong. the last time spider-man managed to break 100k was in November where they used black cat pinup variant covers

>DC doesn't have any problem delivering fanservice
I read a lot of dc weakly. they don´t show cleavage or big breast anymore. they haven´t for years

>they don´t show cleavage or big breast anymore. they haven´t for years
The entirety of Heroes in Crisis proves you wrong. You certainly do read a lot of DC "weakly", because if you committed to it, you'd notice.

maybe we both just have a different understand of what fanservice is
I don´t remember seeing any big cleavage shots in crisis

Black Canary's therapy session.

Maybe go read Dynamite and Top Cow if this bothers you so much. You know there's more than Big Two, right? Unless you think they banned those too.

Oh hey it's you again.

>Maybe go read Dynamite and Top Cow if this bothers you so much. You know there's more than Big Two, right? Unless you think they banned those too.
why should I just sit down and accept when sjws and feminist ruin one franchise which I used to love after another. I used to support those two companies with hundreds of dollars over the years and now I am just supposed to fuck off and let them ruin it?
I have just as much right for enjoying marvel and dc comics as the tumblrina with pink hair.
let her have her comics and just give me back comics with fanservice
also it´s only a matter of time until sjws have completely ruined marvel and dc and then move on

>they don´t show cleavage or big breast anymore
???

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one or two exceptions don´t undermine my statement
one has to be incredible dishonest to say sjws and feminist have zero impact on comics

>one or two exceptions don´t undermine my statement
I mean they kinda do when your entire argument is that they don't do it anymore at all.

>dc doesn't cleavage or big breast anymore
>one or two exceptions don't undermine my statement

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> 16. FANTASTIC FOUR #8 (MARVEL COMICS)

I can't believe there is still people buying this trash.Is unironically worse than Slott Spider-Man.

>let her have her comics and just give me back comics with fanservice
They haven't gone anywhere. Seems like you're in it for the cheesecake, there's still plenty of it, even within Big Two comics. Your complaints are based on paranoid nonsense.

I thought people didn't buy comic books anymore?

They don’t. Most of these books are under 100K and lower. Sales are in the toilet.

>Most of these books are under 100K
Probably all of them but the top 2

There's way more comics than back in the day and the offer is split. If there were less comics, more of them would pull 100K with ease. It's basic math, yet you claim sales are in the toilet even though they've been earning way more than a decade ago.

Are you illiterate? Because literally nothing you said was in that post.

This. Think about how low 100k actually is. If that was movie tickets sold then whatever movie would be taking in less than a million in total. Now realize that most comics sell a grand total of 40-60k. So two or three towns worth of people are buying all the comics in the entire world (generally speaking, of course, as given variations in interest there will be hundreds of thousands of customers just not interested in the same titles, which is still incredibly low for an entertainment medium).

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They could all be selling that, double that, and it still isn't impressive. Comics are in fact an incredibly niche hobby and at this point have become more a resource for movie/tv-show plots and a place to throw ideas at the wall to potentially become movie/tv-show plots.

The fucking stage of Age of X Man

I wonder how much stores buy comics for from DC? With it's cover price, Batman would be bringing in 800K a month for DC but that's when you ignore literally everything from distribution to paying the lettering guy .
How do the smaller publishers even stay in business?

They stay in business because their overhead is low compared to Marvel and DC.

keep the titcow out of comics and back to the farm

Chinese investors, selling rights to a production studio

So after End Game, I really want to read the comics. Should I really read all the way from the dawn of time, or is there a more recent part I can begin at? I'm not sure where the current block/generation of comics begins

But that guy keeps telling me Marvel is kicking DC's ass on sales, specially on graphic novels, and that DC should go under or WB sell them to Disney.

No, when you want to read a comic, all you need to find first is a run by a writer/artist in particular, with a team/character you like... You don't have to start specifically anywhere, you just need some pointers on where to begin. Nobody actually reads everything from the beginning, it's an endless task.

If you want to read something that inspired the movie, go read "Avengers Forever" by Kurt Busiek. Also read "Thanos Quest" and "The Infinity Gauntlet" by Jim Starlin/Ron Lim. Don't worry if you can't recognize all the references or the characters! Nobody does at first. Each of them have their own origin and story, and the way to learn about them is to look them up later on Wikipedia and work your way back, if you like.

You can jump into any comics by a character you like, generally. What matters is which, and when.

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DC should go under, but only because it's the best way to clear house and get rid of Didio and his ilk. WB can then try to license the characters to another company. It certainly wouldn't be marvel because they're direct competitors with WB's actual areas of interest. But whoever gets the license would almost certainly be better than what we got now.

He's been saying that shit for years. Aquaman apparently got lucky and would have bombed if it didn't release in December but try telling him Captain Marvel got a massive boost from Endgame hype and he denies it. Just ignore him.

Wonder Woman was like, 2 years ago.

You call that big?!

Of course they are. Batman is still at the top every month despite Snyder's best efforts.

They push it back later and later it seems. Has to be pressure from the big two publishers to not release numbers until the last FOC of the next month.

It is such a fucking flop. That's what happens when marvel caters to the PC crowd.

Okay. I'll dig into those. Thanks for the tip. With Ultimate, Now, and Fresh Start along with 616 and 1610, it was pretty overwhelming to find a starting place.

Agreed, not sure what they were thinking. Everyone knows you only bet on consoles for success.

No worries, those are classic stories. If I may, if you ever wanted a taste of a good Legacy/Fresh Start series of stories (self-containing also), you should try Avengers: No Surrender (2018) and Avengers: No Road Home (2019), both have the same creative team behind them (Al Ewing/Jim Zub/Mark Waid) and are pretty well crafted, specially for people who really, REALLY dug Endgame. Great art also in both of these, and surprise twists along the way.
The first has 16 issues and the second has 10. No tie-ins, no additional material required aside from learning who some of the characters are (they still give you names so you're not lost).

Go back to CBR

Fresh start is pretty good if you want to get into the characters. Fresh start Strange is the best Strange run in years

Back to kiwifarms

Kiwifarms is less autistic than Yea Forums at least

You would know, tourist.

Every time I update this thread, your dumb ass is calling some one a tourist;
It's literally been going on for half an hour now...
Is there something wrong with you?
Is that all you have to add to any conversation?
How many have you had tonight? No more than usual, eh?
Miserable drunk faggot.

SHIT DID I MISS DC #1000? WHEN DID IT COME OUT?

27th of March

Is Detective Comics 1000 a fine jumping in point to Batman?

>Jumping in on post-Morrison Batman
Just stay out

>How do the smaller publishers even stay in business?

They stay in business because they don't need to meet the sales levels that Marvel and DC need to. If you're claiming that an indie title is flopping because it's at Marvel/DC cancellation levels, you don't know how comic sales work.

For that matter if you don't understand Comichron only covers the direct market, then you also don't understand that they also get sales from digital and from the bookstore market (which would use the Bookscan list).

And this is what Kieron Gillen said about sales levels for creator-owned indie titles:

>I’ll give you some really basic rule of thumbs for indie comic commentary:

>Anything selling stably over 10k in single issues is a cause for celebration and joy. The creators are almost certainly extremely happy.

>If you’re selling over (ooh) 12k, you’re probably making more than either of the big two would pay you, unless you’re one of the very biggest names.

>If you’re selling anything near 20k, you probably have to buy drinks for your friends.

>And in a real way, if Phonogram settled around 6k back in 2006, I suspect Jamie and I would have settled into doing it for another 40 or 50 issues.

>There’s all manner of exceptions to the above, but if you look at the charts and bear that in mind, you’ll be closer to how the industry looks at those numbers.

>when you are selling to a crowd that could fit into Harvard Stadium three times it's a good thing
>when a crowd that would fit in Citi Field is pretty good for the 'big two' is considered pretty good
>when the biggest number of sales could comfortably translate to seats in Michigan Stadium with thousands to spare
Is it a case of crippling speciality as far as distribution goes (Yea Forums stores and online/digital) or just not knowing how to advertise? There are 19 million people in New York alone. I'm almost certain you could entice a million or so kids up to teens with some glossy action packed Spiderman comic if it wasn't hidden away in some sidestreet store or a nerd-cred store full of massively overpriced hunks of plastic that scares parents away all placed at the front and the comics at the back.

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Does anyone know how those numbers have changed with inflation to the modern day?

That's pre-90s talk, and also paper costs have gone up.

>there being millions of kids and teens in any given city attracted by shinies, action, and some sideboob as they get older is pre-90s talk
>paper costs have anything to do with advertising and selling anywhere but specialised stores
Reply to the wrong post?

It was the modus operandi to sell to as many kids as possible but since the rise of the specialty store, the money has become concentrated. And even before then, comics were losing out to arcades and nowadays would struggle compared of normies playing videogames.

Let's be real here, the vast majority of indie comics wouldn't be sold on the newsstand/grocery store/etc to begin with. A lot of that has to do with either cost or content. They are being sold at Barnes and Noble and any other bookstore that stocks TPBs. Monthly comics are seen as short-term gain that keeps a readership going on a regular basis, TPBs and stuff like that are long-term.

>I'm almost certain you could entice a million or so kids up to teens with some glossy action packed Spiderman comic if it wasn't hidden away in some sidestreet store or a nerd-cred store full of massively overpriced hunks of plastic that scares parents away all placed at the front and the comics at the back.

And they did try. But no one paid attention to it. Borders used to stock monthly comics on specialized racks in the 00's before they shut down in 2011. Barnes and Noble used to stock Marvel and DC monthly comics in their magazine section. And the first year they did it, it wasn't even hard to find. But it didn't do well because Marvel gave up on the newsstand/grocery store/etc market permanently in 2013.

You need to take in account that's for floppies only, which is the most specialized format. There's digital and trade/HC numbers to add to at, which are the formats most casual readers use. It's still gonna be a small number, but it's a niche subset within a medium which is pretty niche itself.

This. Even better to avoid using as a good jumping point is any Batman story from the 21st century.

When will DC give him the boot lads? He's been getting more and more books

>dc
>doing good in comics

This. It's mostly sustained by Batman and Batman adjacent books, every other book in their roster pulls low numbers. Imagine if this were the case in Marvel, and you'd have only Spider-Man and Wolverine series, while every other series hits cancellation numbers.

>almost certain you could entice a million or so kids up to teens with some glossy action packed Spiderman comic
only if marvel would stop putting anti white male sjw and feminist propaganda in all of their comics

Do you EVER go to sleep?

Dc numbers are mainly sustained by Batman, While other historic titles are down. Take Aquaman since Deconnick took over its in a free fall despite a highly successful movie, because idiotically deconnick instead of capitalizing on the movie, went to do her own story with no connection to classical Aquaman.

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Actual sales numbers are up: comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-03.html

>Immortal Hulk #15 3/20/19 53,120

FUCKING BASED. /ourguy/ Ewing is raking in the dough.

It was about time. Look at him go.

The Top 500's and their estimates are now online: All is flipped.

Finally an Ewing comic that can't be cancelled.

>I was gonna say Infinity sold too little
With that art, its sales will always be too much.

Remember that these sales are preorders. Civil War II seemed like a sure bet for retailers, and it had a lot of variants for the first issue. #3's spike was due to them hyping it up as the death of a major character and keeping it secret.

I remember there was a tweet from a retailer, during the week #3 was out, where he said that there were more people coming in to play Pokemon Go than pick up Civil War II #3.