Both WB and Disney are pursuing their own platforms

Then why are they bothering to use the mcu actors?

Nobody's stupid enough to subscribe to disney and wb's shit. They'll die off within the year just like DC's thing

They'll be fucked if they lose Dreamworks since they will need to find a new partner to make their own crap like Voltron with, since Universal now owns Dreamworks, and they will be stuck with whatever foreign made stuff they can get, plus Laika and (even when they do better work) other lesser known studios.

The Blue Sky stuff, which was formally aligned with Fox, is now Disney crap. So with Netflix having to fear that it won't just be the Office that Universal takes when Comcast makes their own streaming service, they will lose Minions and all the Illumination stuff, since Universal owns them.

DC Universe is not dead nor even dying. The plan is to offer it as a add-on to the WB service and that will increase user as well.

Disney will likely easily get as many people that added on Disney XD and the die hard Disney animation hard cores who will suck up anything with mouse ears on and that will be enough to carry it for a few years. And again, Disney will end up packaging something that's Hulu and Disney+ or ESPN and Disney+ and increase their subscriber count that way.

>The plan is to offer it as a add-on to the WB service

That is literally the definition of dead.

Netflix is pretty trash too right now, ben heck did a vid where he tried to find the newest non-netflix original non-disney owned title they had and pretty much everything was 2010 or older.

>since Disney+ ended up being trash
Holy shit you retards are fucking delusional

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>The plan is to offer it as a add-on to the WB service
Because it's dead

>actually defending Disney Minus content
You're such a company cuck holy shit.

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You still have more options to pick and choose which service to subscribe to and when. And you can subscribe for a show and drop after binging it. Up to customers to be smart. Now I can see some streaming services stop the release all the eps at once thing and start releasing weekly eps so people will to subscribe for longer. Netflix kinda screwed themselves with the binging thing.

Disney+ shouldn't even exist, just put this shit on Hulu.

Speaking of WB and Netflix

What's going to happen to Sabrina and this guy?

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All of Netflix's most popular animated shows are by Dreamworks tho. They're not losing a significant audience by not having a handful of older shows in syndication anymore.

>Netflix kinda screwed themselves with the binging thing.
they screwed everyone else with the binging thing by setting the new expected consumer standard. if streaming services stop dumping entire seasons for binging, people will drop them like rocks.

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This is what DC found out the hard way

>Dreamworks

See >They'll be fucked if they lose Dreamworks since they will need to find a new partner to make their own crap like Voltron with, since Universal now owns Dreamworks, and they will be stuck with whatever foreign made stuff they can get, plus Laika and (even when they do better work) other lesser known studios.

sure, but that's a dumb hypothetical. even the idea that they'll lose syndication of old shows that disney and WB don't necessarily care about or see as a draw to their platforms is a dumb hypothetical. so far the only thing netflix has actually lost is, what, two or three Marvel TV shows with second or third tier heroes that are part of an ongoing MCU trend that Disney wants exclusively on its own platform, but even then not a huge draw or subsequent loss for netflix in the first place?

Nah I can see Disney getting away with this. Have enough kids shows and back catalogue and people will accept it. And if the show like Mandalorian is good as well. Also feels like weekly shows makes more of an impact. The weekly discussion and theories really fuel a show like Game of Thrones.

>Netflix will have no competition.
Netflix will also have nothing in its library too beyond shitty originals. It doesn't matter if these other shitshows hit the ground with their face first into a big steaming pile of jagged glass. They're still running away with content that used to be Netflix's. Sooner or later, Netflix is gonna have a loss of the content people actually subscribe to them for.

At least Netflix is not retarded enough to subsidize and divide up what someone can stream from the content they own into different packages (Like WB and Disney having multiple streaming services, what the fuck), then again. Problem 1, they're still not there in the amount of content they need.

Though, with Netflix's aggressive international expansion. We might see cool new foreign shows rise up. Kingdom was pretty neat, but I'm not a fan of the other K-Dramas. The pleb in me just wants them to collab with Toei and Bandai and get international streaming rights for Toku shows.

If other streaming services start having must see shows that dominate the discourse, customers will start picking and choosing which streaming thing they'll keep. Amazon is just gearing up with Lord of the Rings and Disney with Marvel and Star Wars. Not to mention Netflix's quality has been dropping.

anyone who can afford to "pile on" will do so as all of these new streaming services combined are still a fraction of what they used to pay for cable television, and poor people will stick with what they already have and watch the rest elsewhere.

Comcast probably has enough money to buy Netflix. It would be more logical than creating their own service. Either way some big media corp will buy Netflix in the end.

Disney+ gets them out to the world where hulu doesn't. There's money to be made outside of America.

Literally Hulu has already hit its peak exposure and is still a niche. Disney is a universally recognized name, and an officially licensed platform named after it will attract a massively larger base.

They probably have a contract for X seasons of both.

All this shit is going to end up imploding sooner or later. If Netflix can last out, they'll all come crawling back to either Netflix or Disney Plus. I don't have much faith in the latter but they have enough money to throw around that they could easily absorb some of the IPs.

As long as it kills Netflix I'm fine with it.

Meh personally Netflix's value proposition has been dropping like a rock. Stranger Things is the only show still on my radar but the 2nd season was rehashed dogshit. If people stop seeing them as the default streaming service, they're fucked.

>nothing but capeshit and cartoons

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I'd imagine Hulu will eventually be absorbed into Disney Plus. Disney owns like a major portion of it already.

DC Universe will undoubtedly be absorbed into WB's service.

>nothing but things people want to watch
how does someone as retarded as you remember to breathe?

Dead in the sense of it not exiting as a stand alone service, yeah. But I'd imagine (hoping) that their titles will just be added to the WB service.

Netflix just added IW and Incredibles 2. Next year, they won't be able to do that with Toy Story 4 and with Endgame.

You don't think that will hurt?

Also, Friends and The Office may be 'syndication of old shows' but it's going to hurt Netflix.

People aren't watching shit like Sabrina and Voltron and The Crown. They waste their time on Netflix watching commercial free episodes of Friends and The Office.

You mean all the things that make billions of dollars in the box office. People will get this service just for the entire catalogue of Disney films.

None of the new stuff really catches my eye but there are people that will eat it up.

Comcast still owns 33% of Hulu, supposedly what they want to do is grow that business outside English speaking areas, as with Netflix, which makes sense, another reason why Disney wanted to buy some of the non-broadcast properties that Fox owned outside the USA.

Everyones fucked because there are going to be too many different streaming services on the market. Its probably just going to drive more people to piracy. that or fees get drastically lowered or even removed and viewers are made to watch ads once more

In terms of the actual competition between platforms and people switching between them, exclusives are not relevant, price + variety value combination is everything, and none of these new platforms even come close. As soon as a platform hits the scene with more variety and cheaper sub fees than Netflix, they'll lose their entire base and get cooked, but that's not a very realistic outcome since all of these new platforms are only offering their own catalogue of IPs rather than variety.

>Sabrina
Don't fucking remind me. How hard is it to make a good horror show? You had decent material in the form of comic for that. Oh, right. Netflix horror fucking sucks, that's how.
God, I'm mad.

>Comcast still owns 33% of Hulu
>He hasn't heard

>Also, Friends and The Office may be 'syndication of old shows' but it's going to hurt Netflix.
the point was that netflix isn't going to lose those old shows because the companies who own them get MUCH more value pimping them out in syndication than they would by removing them and keeping them locked on an exclusive platform.

not everyone's an autist whos only interests are capeshit movies and cartoons. The only people that are going to have long lasting subscriptions are parents who will leave their retard children like you in front of it all day while they fuck off and do something else

>thinking non-Americans would buy Disney or Warner shit

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But if every major studio take their catalogue away from Netflix to their own service, Netflix will have nothing. They're the most vulnerable since they rely on these external parties. Also if the studios start demanding for money to keep the shows on Netflix. This is the reason Disney bought Fox for their back catalogue. They theoretically should be the best out of all the services with 2 major studios worth of history.

Sabrina's a horror show?

They should've bought out studios or IP's from bigger companies while they had the chance. Companies were apathetic to online streaming until now.

Well, that's what it was advertised as, at least. Then again, Jessica Jones was advertised as psychological horror and it was just drawn-out show about idiots trying to catch a slightly less stupid (but still pretty damn stupid) villain.

so you agree its the fault of capitalism demanding parents work full time when they should be focusing on childrearing

Netflix were never big enough to actually buy a major studio. They're doing the best they can but they're inevitably fucked.

Plus they have fox & abc among other shit. Don't know who owns brooklyn 99 but that show's popular and might be on it.
They'll have simpsons, bob's burgers, koth for the older audience, and sesame street for kids. Disney+ will easily be on top of the competition.

NF is pretending to be important by relying on woke representation circle jerk marketing so that's a clear sign of a dwindling audience.

>They'll have simpsons, bob's burgers, koth for the older audience, and sesame street for kids. Disney+ will easily be on top of the competition.

That's retarded, western cartoons are tiny when compared to anime, what Disney is not willing to produce, Nettflix got several adult show that are already huge like Boojack and extremely sucessful animes like Devilman and Baki.

Disney+ will need to triple the content and give it actual diversity if they want to be part of the competition

>being this delusional
The only anime big enough to compete with shit like The Simpsons is Dragon Ball.

>Disney Minus

Oh god. You honestly thought that was cool and clever, didn't you?

I kinda thought that this is Disney's weakness - keeping to the American family-friendly image - where some company might be eager to take advantage of the empty niche.

Hello Kitty, Anpanman, One Piece and others are all bigger than The Simpsons.

Simpsons is not that big deal that you think it is.

>Tripple the content
Disney could publish popular shows over the span of 70 years using abc & fox's huge library.
ranker.com/list/best-abc-shows-of-all-time/ranker-tv
ranker.com/list/best-fox-broadcasting-company-tv-shows/voteable?

The mainstream audience prefers live action over animation; so yes, they will be on top.

NF on the other hand, produces garage sale tv show experiments with few shows worth watching. Discovering NF original shows with their UI is such a fucking mess, shows get cancelled because they think there's no interest in it when in reality, people never even knew it existed.

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>People think that WB will be ok, when it's now owned by AT&fuckingT
>One of the shittiest phone companies there is
AT&T has a negative-Midas touch, almost everything they own turns to shit when they finally own it.

Hill house was good though.

Because Paramount TV and Amblin TV produced it, if it's good on Netfilx then usually some other company made it. Same with Manic.

It’ll be interesting to see how Dreamworks X Netflix plays out now that Dreamworks is out of their exclusivity contract and clearly doesn’t mind sticking a foot in all pools

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These aren't that big deal that you think they are. One Piece even failed in Latin America. The home of the biggest weebs on the planet.

WB has never not been shit so really there's no difference

I'll take your word for it. I've burned myself plenty of times on Netflix shit.

You are unironically retarded.

>only in US
Netflix is available in most countries now and wb and Disney are still selling the rights outside US.
UK Netflix even has titans and is getting Doom Patrol when it's completed on DCs us streaming thing.

>The Maltese Falcon,Inception,Zodiac,The Exorcist, All The President's Men, Goodfellas,Shining,A Streetcar Named Desire,Casablanca,Unforgiven,A Clockwork Orange

WB is the best studio BY FAR and is not even close. Disney and Fox movies are a fucking joke when compared to them.

>The Maltese Falcon,Inception,Zodiac,The Exorcist, All The President's Men, Goodfellas,Shining,A Streetcar Named Desire,Casablanca,Unforgiven,A Clockwork Orange

WB is the best studio BY FAR, is not even close. Disney and Fox movies are a fucking joke when compared to them.

Another user here, I did genuinely chuckle at "Disney Minus".

Nobody is going to subscribe to a new service for old shows that are already available on several other free (and a few paid) platforms, and Disney isn't going to give up on massive syndication bux just to lock those shows behind its online streaming platform's paywall.

Don't worry, I'm sure all these streaming services will group together and offer you affordable packages.

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But that's exactly what's happening to friends and the office

They should join forces and merge with other smaller media companies that are finding themselves trapped on the same shitcan. Maybe CBS and Viacom, they already work togheter, and they have a lot of well known IPs under their belt.

>wb and Disney are still selling the rights outside US.

For now.

That's speculative at best, and has more to do with whether Netflix wants to drop another $100 million on each of those shows than it does with their current owners refusing to license the shows out. Obviously negotiations would have been had over a new licensing fee if Netflix felt it needed to keep those shows at all, but I highly doubt either of those companies would refuse to license out those shows under the assumption that they would bring in over $100 million in subs to their own respective platforms.

So what's gonna happen when the streaming bubble pops?

Back to cable television for everything.

Gee I wonder.

So did I.

everyone goes back to just torrenting everything instead of only torrenting everything not currently on netflix

>All those old films

People will pay for they favorites shows/genres and torrent the rest

Not an argument.

How the fuck do you think The Mouse is better than Netflix? At least they create new IP.

>The home of the biggest weebs on the planet.

Those are the French.

I also liked The Apostle

>Discovering NF original shows with their UI is such a fucking mess

It is not that difficult.

Like what?

Read trade papers like I do and be in the business, like I am (although not in either animation or film studios): Warner Brothers definitely wants Friends on their platform, what they intend to offer Netflix is 'sharing.' And, at a comparably steep price to what Netflix had to play for 'exclusivity' - Comcast doesn't yet know what the fuck they want, they can't even decide if they want to sell their 33% of Hulu to Disney but they don't have a shit tonne of live action material that's as popular, has as many episodes and doesn't cost them shit (the Friend's actors have better residuals built-in to their later contracts, far higher than the Office actors) as The Office, so you can bet that Universal will go after the same or similar deal as WB goes after.

Warner Brothers is not going to LOSE money if Netflix balks on sharing. Netflix might lose business, if they do, based on reported representations of their own modeling (which granted is iffy at best because nearly all of it that is known to be legitimate is self-reported).

The Centurion Collection is a thing, you know. And The Criterion Plus service was a popular streaming that was profitable. The only reason WB closed it down was because they wanted to focus on less products, but now they are going to wrap it into their overall product.

All those old people may not go and spend $1.2 B watching Endgame in theaters, but they have a ton of money and it's not like they are spending it on liquor, hookers, video games and pirating their shit.

Did you forget that Japs fucking love Disney even more than Americans?

They aren't into streaming.