Who would win in a fight?

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Disney Shere Khan? Khan wins, no contest. Scar would be a thin red paste on the ground. As goofy as Khan was, he was absolutely a fucking menace. Scar is just a manipulative runt. And old, really old.
Book Khan? I'd still put my money on him. Pathetic as he is in the book, all it really takes is one good swing from a tiger to basically vaporize skulls. Even a runt of a tiger like him will still have the crazy muscles that let tigers one-hit-KO most anything. He gets a single hit in on that old, crotchety bag o' bones Scar and he's down for the count.

It really can't be understated how much more "fuck you"-per-inch is in tigers compared to lions. Lions are no slouches, but in a life or death one-on-one fight, it's hard to think the lion will win. And in this particular matchup, it's really, really one sided.

Can't be OVERstated, not understated.
Fuck.

They should have teamed up.

Disney Shere Khan is not lame or a runt, that's book Shere Khan. In the film Mowgli never defeated Khan, he won by away by scaring him away with fire while Shere Khan was occupied effortlessly stomping a fullgrown bear. Based on their respective feats in the films, Khan takes this unless Scar can employ an army of hyenas or his pride to help.

They'd fuck

Kahn kills Scar in the fight immediately, and then Kahn wanders off to die of his injuries alone.

Khan would kill him

How much time does Scar have to prepare

thanks, satan.

Scenario 1: none
Scenario 2: 15 minutes
Scenario 3: a day

Khan, plus tigers usually win fights with lions in real life.

1. Khan
2. Khan. 15 minutes is not enough time to come up with a scheme
3. Scar, but definitely not unscathed.

Now I want a Talespin version of Scar with him in charge of a nation that's the Fascist rival of Thembria.

Wouldn't Scar be a revolutionary communist leader?

Tigers > Lions > Skinny Lions

Khan.

Even irl, tiger would beat lion the overwhelming majority of the time.

His ENTIRE army? Of course. Just the usual three idiots? Probably not, unless Scar helped.

He'd be whatever gets him into power and keeps him there.

Scar was a little bitch desu

Shere Khan easy

>Walking on two legs more anthropomorphized Nala

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Better question: Adult Simba and Mufasa both versus Shere Khan

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keep in mind male lions are actually just lazy assholes who are there just to fuck, female lions are the real deal, so i think Nala would have a bigger chance of succes
but for how they are portrayed in the movie? yeah, in combo they'd win

It's a common misconception that male lions are useless, but in reality they hold the position they do in the lion chain of command for a reason, and they are are stronger than a lioness in a straight fight.
If you really want a species where the female dominates the males, look at hyena.

Not true

True

youtube.com/watch?v=0yIOTkBnw88

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_versus_lion
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youtube.com/watch?v=gawfKd_0aYQ

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They already have that on the show in Thembria though.

Exactly.

Someone draw this.

You now recall that Ligers exist, and are as big as a horse.

Shere Khan. Tigers are way stronger and have more muscles than lions. In a 1 v 1 an adult tiger will always beat an adult lion.

Single Lion < Tiger < Jaguar
youtube.com/watch?v=ROPTP0yyroA

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This thread makes me wonder why some people keep Tigers as pets. They can easily kill us if they are having a bad day.

Pretty much no animal in nature could actually beat a tiger more often than not. Unless you get into technicalities like mosquitoes I guess.

People get off dominating large animals?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=rtHJU032NL0

Several big herbivores could, actually.

That's kinda true of dogs, yet here we are.

The true champion.

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I also recall that they suffer from crippling bone problems and arthritis because they are a genetic mistake that should not exist.

I kinda get the impression from what I’ve seen of big animal trainers that tigers seem to be easier to train than some other big cats like lions. So if you want a big cat that’s still really large and impressive but is comparatively easy to handle than your other options, a tiger would be of interest. They can be pretty adaptable and a few of them have chill personalities.

Cheetahs are probably even easier to handle but nowhere near as big or impressive.

All adult male Lions do is fight to defend their position as pride liders, unlike Tigers who are primarly solitary and mostgly develope hunting skills.
tl;dr Lions are better fighters

Shere Kahn hands down.

tigers and lions when put against each other in areas historically it would be tigers that won 2/3 times
they're slightly smaller, but usually weigh as much as 150-200ish pounds more of basically pure muscle

tigers are biggest cats and large than even male lions

For all you dumbasses trying to assess this based on Kipling's Shere Khan, then you need to put him up against Shakespeare's Claudius.

(Khan still wins)

He probably fought off leopards and shit. And if a lion ate nothing but bugs, it would eventually die from malnourishment. There's literally no way he'd be able to survive.

You're a fucking moron. Male lions are built for fighting, it's their primary role in life to act as the pride defender however it isn't all that they do. From the moment a male is ejected from a pride he has to provide for himself as he no longer has a family to do the hunting for him. His hunting skills are typically formed from participating in hunts with his original pride prior to being ejected. Upon fighting another male and winning to succeed his rival he has to spend just about every day plodding around miles of territory to mark and remark boundaries and vocalize that it's his turf. In addition the male will also participate in hunts of larger game such as buffalo and giraffe because compared even to his female companions he's fucking powerhouse. Any time not spent participating in these activities is used to sleep because at any point in time the male must be prepared to fight off a rival male or worse still, two or more rival males in a coalition (this is not uncommon, males will often band with their brothers if ejected at the same time). Being at anything less than peak performance risks his ejection, death, and the death of his lineage. Tl;dr, the fucker earns his right to take naps whenever he fucking pleases because a power nap could be the difference between life and death.

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You have to factor in species. Your average male bengal tiger like Khan is typically about the same size as an African lion give or take some kilos. It's not like Khan is a Siberian tiger.

let me clarify more, lions will tend to be taller than tigers, but have short body length and slightly less mass/weight

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>t. lazy-ass lion

Go back to your nap, asshole.

After I finish eating your mom's ass like the Tsavo man-eaters ate those dindus

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Scar pretty much only got where he was in life through scheming and using his minions to do all the hard work, pretty much everyone outside of a fucking toucan considering him a joke.
Merely uttering Shere Khan's name would make pretty much everyone panic because he was well known to be an unstoppable killing machine.

Khan would absolutely stomp Scar.

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Sick burn.

Khan has the physical advantage but his fear of fire is real easy to use against him. I know that cinematic motifs and musical numbers aren't really 'canon' but fire tends to appear when Scar does. If some conveniently dramatic lightning strikes a tree anywhere near their fight, Scar just needs to see Khan flinch ONCE and he'll know exactly how to win.

The real question is; who would be the better lover?

Both would be shit since cats are shit at sex like most animals.

Khan, Scar basically says plain that he's not the fighter type.

The White Man

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Young scar with bullshit magic roar from the lion guard

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Khan is Megatron while Scar is Starscream

Shere Khan
youtu.be/yMSQfxDLc4k

Wait is this supposed to be in the '67 one or the sequel one? I don't think they are going to fit Buldeo as well in the 67 movie.

Tigers literally kill Lions

Cheetahs are easily the most tameable of the big cats. The only reason they're not domesticated is because they require aarge area of land to mate.

This is a good point. If Scar can move the fight to the elephant graveyard he can use the thermal vents to throw off Khan and go for the jugular.

On a flat terrain, Khan takes it. But Scar would never fight on a flat terrain anyway, he'd tip the scales in his favor.

tigers are better at ambush and climbing also they love water while lions avoid it

Yeah, but Shere Khan has probably never seen a thermal vent.

It would take a shitload of luck, but if Scar can get him into the elephant graveyard when it has its mightly seismic event, Khan's brain would overload with HOT, RED, EVERYWHERE. From there it's a matter of just knocking him into the Earth of going for the throat.

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How about a fucking cobra?

The tiger.

The bigger bears tend to be powerhouses

He couldn't even beat ann unarmed whiteman

Even the Blackadder Toucan was still brave enought to be rude about him to his face.

Female lions do all the work but the males are still physically superior

Biology wise lions acctually have the upper had in a fight due to the mane offering protection to the neck but scar is a pussy so this goes to khan

Tigers are much more agile than the biggest bears and can quite easily ambush them. Motherfuckers hunt elephants.

could he beat Gaston though

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Yes, Clayton has a better/more advanced gun. He can fire more accurately, from further away, and reload much much quicker. Hand-to-hand is a bit harder to determine though since we don't know how much training each has, but I'd lean more towards Clayton having some skill or training in boxing.

We didn't specify the terms. It's an egg eating contest. Can Clayton eat FOUR DOZEN????

>Ruler of the Pridelands? Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be Ruler of the Pridelands?

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In a gun duel, absolutely, unless Gaston gets a really lucky shot. That oversized blunderbuss is an archaic weapon with absolute shit range and accuracy, fired with black powder that impairs your vision, deafens you and gives away your position, and needs like a minute to reload - in fact, I believe it was given to Gaston to underscore his vanity, as using a gun like that for hunting is incredibly impractical.

>Book Khan vs Scar: Scar since he can easily exploit Khan's lameness and mental issues

>Film Khan vs Scar: Khan unless Scar can do something really cunning

>TaleSpin Khan vs Scar: Scar is a slave in the mines before he even knows who he is up against

Bears only look fat, they're actually no slouches when it comes to agility, especially polar bears who are for all intents and purposes ice tigers. They also have excellent sense of smell, so they're far harder to ambush than elephants. I highly doubt a real life tiger would risk taking on a kodiak or a polar bear with triple its mass, unless in a life or death situation.

Tigers have higher powerlevels than lions and Scar is known for being pretty weak, at least physically, compared to uberlion Mufasa.
However Scar may be able to out-think Khan. This is assuming they're fighting in some sort of natural environment and not a featureless, final destination tier battleground. Khan is not particularly smart and his overconfidence wouldn't help him out at all. Scar is not a genius but he's certainly smart enough to know when he's not going to win a direct confrontation. He might not be able to make a literal tiger trap but maybe he could figure something out. His best bet, really, would be to ambush Khan and try severely injuring him.

Honestly, it could go either way assuming
>they're fighting in some sort of natural environment

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Fuck no.

What does it do?
Does it conjure fire?

Insects have more protein than red meat you dingus.

>was probably malnourished from only eating insect for most his life.
Those insects were both crunchy and satisfying.

Scar utilized egalitarian rhetoric, but did so in such a way that still framed one outgroup as the enemy and created a hierarchy with him on top. That's fascism to a T.

blows enemies away but if done a certain way, it can bring dead lions back from lion hell/heaven

Polar bear.

So, Fus Ro Dah?
Sounds like it could give him an instant kill in a few scenarios.

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>he couldn’t beat the most dangerous game
I’m not seeing how that’s bad

>Slimy yet satisfying

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Amateurs..

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I mean Kahn owns at least one battleship

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Shere Khan has a crippled paw.

youtube.com/watch?v=emKPydpF7Aw

Should I watch TailSpin? Sounds like there's interesting lore there.

It is "Talespin."

Talespin is great. I am biased because that show gave me plane autism but fuck it you should definitely watch it.
The pilot is a three part thing as I recall that introduces everything pretty well.

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Feeling triggered?

It is four parts. The edited version is the only one found on the box sets. It is best to start with the uncut pilot.

Disney Kahn isn’t lame or small. They even make it clear that he’s powerful. That’s why he was so chill.

Scar’s whole thing was that he was too weak to fight fairly on his own. Even the last fight with Simba was short, and only didn’t end faster because he cheated. That’s why he needed the Hyenas.

Shere Kahn is the opposite. He doesn’t need to scheme or get help, because he knows he’s a powerhouse. It took a boy carrying Kahn’s phobia, a bear, and a pack of vultures to just scare him away long enough for Mowgli to go to his village.

It’s a fun show. I hate to be that guy, but it would make for a really fun movie series or reboot as long as Don Karnage is voices by Cummings.

Oh yeah, you're right. My bad.
But yeah Plunder and Lightning is the name of the pilot.

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It’s great because it was so easy to make Shere Khan the villain and big bad but they just went morally questionable businessman who even helped the protagonists in some cases.

I bet Gaston wins hand to hand, dude is built as fuck and fought Beast.

Shere Kahn > Don Karnage > Scar in terms of fuckability.

Large Bears
African Elephants
Hippos
Rhinos

cda.pl/video/25464034d

You can watch it uncut here. The site is Polish but the video and audio English.

How come we rarely get taking ravens? Are they just not cute?

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From actual animal fights held back in the day bears win against tigers something like 9 times out of 10. They just stand up and bring their paw down on the tigers skull, crushing it.

What he lacks in physical power, he makes up in dedication and wits.

Reminder that Gaston had a whole sequence about how accurate he was with a piece of shit like the blunderbuss

Nope.

I am not any sort of big cat expert, but your statement strikes me as comparable to saying "It's easier to bench press one ton than it is to bench press 1.5 tons, so you should bench one ton if you want to lift weights."

you wouldn't be able to walk more than two meters even if a meteor was going to blast your lazy ass.

now easy now, while you eat some bullets instead, i'll take some of your relatives too, don't want to see them missing your fat ass

Unite Nations, please go.

Sorry it came off that way.

What I mean is, I’ve seen a lot of big cat trainers that choose to work with tigers specifically, but much less that work with other cats. I don’t know how hard lions are to train, but I am pretty sure that I’ve heard that leopards specifically are very difficult to tame and to work with, and that’s why you almost never see big cat trainers with a leopard.

Hyenas also have like double the biting power of a lion.

Unexpected

Lions normally avoid water because some really mean shit tends to live in it like hippos, Nile crocs (not those pansy ass muggers that tigers hunt) and even the occasional bull shark or Goliath tiger fish. It pays to avoid water when everything living in it wants to kill you when you can't fight back. With that being said, lions that live near large water ways and swamps have adapted to get used to it.

why does this turn me on?

>Motherfuckers hunt elephants
Elephant calves. Asian elephant calves at that. And only when they're desperate for a kill. Lions in some regions of Africa will take anything short of a bull elephant because they've adapted to.

Scar just would seduce him. He's hasn't taken a knott since his old brother found Sarabi. He needs it bad

Roar of the elders scar is supposed to be pretty powerful. It wasn't until after he killed off his Lion Guard with it that he became the scrawny lion we all love

Gaston can fire like four shots rapid.

And then there's this blunderbuss.

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Dust off that TaleSpinoff project, Yea Forums
The thread is still on +Yea Forums.

>Bara Khan vs Scar
>yell "I'm FUCKING cumming" while biting his head
I don't want this

Actually, nobody fights like Gaston, or hits like him.

Poe owns the copyright for talking ravens

That's Dogs, cats have barbs

They also tend to get really fat because of something that happens with them being hybrids.

I always figured they just always get fat because they basically only exist in captivity, and it’s probably hard to figure out a good diet and exercise routine for them that doesn’t end with them getting fat. I imagine they love to eat yet hate to move, like most cats, only worse.

Tiger > Lion

Scar was a cowardly bitch. Kahn would wipe the fucking floor with him

true but it's a group effort (every able body member of the pride has to chip in) especially when it's a adult elephant.

Lions aren't that strong.

Tigers are more powerful, leopards are better hunters and jaguars adapt better. The only thing they're good for is having nice hair and lots of bitches.

>tfw no domesticated hunting cheetahs

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tigers are bigger and scar is more brains than brawn.

This man knows his yins from his yangs

Or not!

>jaguars adapt better
youtube.com/watch?v=DrY4EUirqgE
ground type beats water type in water environment

This thread made me look up the bite force of animals and apparently the strongest three all belong to the order crocodilia. No wonder crocodiles are seen as evil with few exceptions.

He hung himself though.

Tigers fight each other over hunting grounds and breeding ranges all the time

They're the best animals. We could have evolved from crocs instead of monkeys. We fucking lost the draw.

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Tigers have stuff even they can't take down in their own home range in the form of Elephants who will gladly fuck them up if they see them because they're a threat to smaller calves.

Scar wasn't Malnourished
Even when he was king and could have kept himself fed he was that size

They get big because Male lions and tigers pass on different genes. Lionesses can mate with multiple Lions and have a mixed litter with multiple fathers, like domestic housecats. Male lions pass on genes that encourages growth so that only their specific children can compete. Lionesses will pass on genes that regulate growth since they are all her offspring and its more advantageous to ensure they all survive.

In contrast all the cubs a tigress births will be from one tiger. Since its more advantageous for Tigers to have multiple offspring running around instead of one that outcompetes the others, Tigers don't pass on those overgrowth genes. So male lions and female tigers produce an overgrown hybrid.

Scar would win if he had the hyenas, otherwise he gets fucked.

Please explain to me how a tiger is going to kill a bull elephant, or a sperm whale.

>those replies
I don't know if you are aware of it, but Shere Khan is physically LAME and the only reason he went after human children (and the animals drining from water holes, which was against the law of the jungle) was because they were easy prey.

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Most people here are talking about the one from the movie.

Huh. That’s neat. I had been wondering why Ligers were always huge but Tigons weren’t.

Hippos are far, far more dangerous than crocodiles though, and are always portrayed as jovial goofballs, even though they're foul tempered aggressive assholes.

Humans just have a really strong anti reptile bias

We wouldn't have evolved from them because animals perfectly suited for their environment generally don't evolve. Crocodilians have been around basically unchanged since dinosaur times for a reason.

Then I'll have to do it myself.

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What if Khan intimidates the hyenas?
A handicapped tiger must be doing something right if it reached that size.

I would be surprised if it's not out there already.

Didn't seem to me that he had much trouble doing it

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C H O N K

Technically speaking jaguars are pound for pound the strongest big cat. They also have the strongest bite which is why they favor biting prey in the fucking head.

What is that in imperial

Anyone has that video of the Jaguar entering the water to hunt crocodiles?

Man Zulu is awesome.

This is the most accurate metaphor one could think of.

Fuck that's right, Scar has(had) voice powers now. Maybe the vents going off when he does a musical number IS supposed to be literal.

TFW you'll never be a crocodile in a suit.

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Someday...

You mean this one?

He wasn't malnourished, but he was pretty physically frail. As he said, Mufasa got all the strength

God damn it Lucifer, quit shitposting and get back to freezing your ass off!

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Can't Gaston fire his gun unnaturally fast?

Like, 5 shots in a row fast?

Scar couldn't even beat a lion raised on bug protein with no fighting skills.

I heard he was partially eaten by a giant demonic chameleon, but whenever I ask those involved they said that never happened.

Because you are gay and want to see them fuck
it also turns me on T B H.

This.
He tops them all.

Khan IS smart.
That's why he was cocky. He had the brains and the brawn.

youtube.com/watch?v=YXjviLBYrS8

Incorrect is what it is, male lions can hit 250kg = 550lbs while tigers can go up to 400kg = 880lbs.

Book!Khan and Disney!Khan are two different beasts. They're not as different as Book!Kaa and Disney!Kaa, but should still be treated as different characters.

>Clayton is so powerful that he beat Clayton

That must have hurt like hell. How can you do this for hours without snapping it?

Why does the tiger vs lion shit pop up so much? Siberian tigers are big enough to put a straight up fight against bears and entire wolf packs, and that's as a creature built solely to be an ambush predator. Male lions would destroy tigers had they been bigger, because they're far more adapted for straight up fights thanks to their social structure. Tigers have huge territory and rarely run into each other, compared to the male lion that has to fight other male lions all its life.

They're both majestic, powerful creatures and being the same shape and size, in most people's minds anyway, makes them easy to compare.

The law of nature is as simple as it fucking gets, bigger = better. It's not rocket science, no fucking land creature aside from an armed human can take down an elephant bull. Tigers will always beat lions on average if you take 2 healthy males, they're just bigger.

Scar is an inherent Geomancer and a powerful host of the Roar of the Elders

Khan is a bitch.

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pretty sure by the events of the first movie scar lost the roar abilities

Huh, so is there a carnivore that could defeat a tiger in a one on one fight? Also how would a gorilla fare against a tiger?

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>so is there a carnivore that could defeat a tiger in a one on one fight?

Most of the bigger aquatic carnivores if battle happens in water. Tiger really has no defense against stuff like killer whales or big sharks.

I mean a land based carnivore. Is there any land based carnivore that could defeat a tiger in 1v1?

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Guys...are we sure we aren't underselling Scar a little here? For whatever it's worth he gave Simba a good fight when left with literally no other alternative and Simba only one because he remembered his waifu's rolling attack.

...okay that actually makes Scar look even worse because I just said "Scar barely held his own against a runaway dumbass young lion raised by a warthog and a meerkat with no hunting skills whatsoever, and still lost because that lion saw his girlfriend do a roll"

>and Simba only one because he remembered his waifu's rolling attack.

What did he mean by this?

Big males from certain species of bear like grizzly or polar bear should be able to do it.

has there ever been any recorded instances of an asiatic lion, a bengal tiger and an indian leopard duking it out?

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>land based carnivore.
Tiger's are peak land meat eater. Brown bears are the closest in strength and size but even then the Tiger will still win.

The only thing that could come close to destroying them would be a Crocodile/Alligator if the fight was in the water or a Elephant, which are not carnivores.

tigers are just red headed retards

This...isn't even a question. Shere fucking khan. Pure brute strength, cunning, and maliciousness.

What about kobra or komodo dragons? How good are they?

how fast does the whole blood poisoning thing occur again for the dragons? give enough time, the tiger would succumb if it got a good bite in.

cobra can kill it but it would be useless for food consumption.

Komodo dragons are reptiles, so they're lazy fucks.
They just bite their prey and wait for them to die from all the bacteria they have growing in their saliva to kill them.

Days.
It's not a venom.

i know. dragons have the patience to wait for the victim to die out. that or be weak enough to be torn limb from limb (assuming other dragons get in on the party)

>Brown bears are the closest in strength and size but even then the Tiger will still win.
Are you high? A brown bear can weigh almost twice as much as a Tiger. It would literally crush it 9 times out of 10.

A hippo would beat a tiger every time. A hippo would beat most things every time.

More like 50/50. If a tiger gets the jugular it wins, if a bear gets the first disorienting slap it wins.

other guy specified carnivore so hippos are technically out.

good thing because cartel hippos gonna murder EVERYONE

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What the fuck is that retarded logic? Do I have a 50/50 against a bear because "If I go for the eyes, I win"? Bears have a ridiculous amount of fat and loose skin around their necks precisely because that is where a lot of bites and slashes fall when they're trying to tear each other apart.

IS IT SO WRONG
TO WANT TO FIND A GRIZZLY BEAR WITH HUMAN INTELLIGENCE
AND FUCK IT

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Grizzly chicks dumby thicc.

From numerious historical accounts, dating back from roman times, lions almost always win. They also murder bears apparently:

>quora.com/What-animal-dominated-the-blood-sport-of-the-Roman-arenas-of-ancient-Rome-all-the-way-through-modern-Rome

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>Both animals using their overwhelmingly preferred method of attack
>Retarded logic
Have you seen how fucking HUGE tigers are? Reminder that they manage to hunt elephants, rhinos and hippos despite all of them being various forms of natural panzers.

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Lions probably need more than protein in their diet, ya dingus.

I imagine that Simba had a number of parasites from eating raw underground insects.

Yes because that's not even how Tigers hunt Sloth bears in their own home range. The Jugular is a terrible spot to attack a bear at. Tigers will almost always abandon the hunt even against that much smaller species because of how dangerous they are to them.
>Reminder that they manage to hunt elephants, rhinos and hippos
Tigers don't hunt adults of any of those species precisely because they're fuck off massive and will gladly ruin the Tigers life. They'll target calves if they're desperate.

youtube.com/watch?v=Z7inua2QVdM
The King!

It's no secret that Jaguar Friend is the best big cat friend

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Are we not talking about a hypothetical situation where the animals do attack eachother with the intent to kill? The fuck is the point of talking about what they generally do or don't do in the wild? What matters is what they're capable of

>What matters is what they're capable of
>shere khan fucks the pride lionesses to make ligers

>giant, retarded evergrowing monsters
Well, I suppose that would be it. Kinda savannah's hills have eyes kinda thing.

You're failing to factor in species. A bengal like Khan will NEVER reach 800+. That shit is a Siberian trait. Meanwhile shit like the Barbary lion grew to be roughly the same size and weight of a bengal tiger.

nigga can't shoot a unarmed, no armor, no gun understanding, iq 50 full grown man

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Except there aren't hippos in any region tigers frequent and tigers only have to content with the smaller and way less aggressive species of elephant and rhino, even then they only go after the babies as a final resort before they start hunting humans instead.

You're wrong.
newscientist.com/article/dn17156-venom-is-key-to-komodo-dragons-killing-power/amp/

Because it further points out the tigers massive disadvantage and dispels the idea that the fight is 50/50 head on. We know that their go too method for stopping much smaller Sloth bears is using ambush to break their spines before retreating until the bear dies from exhaustion. They do this because a head on fight against a Sloth bear is deadly to them. There is a documented instance of a female sloth bear fighting off both a female and a male Bengal tiger in head on fight to protect her cub. A tiger does not have a method to effectively kill a bear in a head on fight but the sheer weight of a brown bear and it's methods that we know of when it comes to fighting head on grants it a massive advantage compared to a tiger trying to do the same.

Fascinating.
Thank you for educating me user.
However- it does not mention how long it takes.
Larger critters take longer to succumb to it's bite. Whether it's venom or bacteria.

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This is likely due to an accidental bias on the part of the Romans. Romans used primarily Barbary lions, a now extinct subspecies of lions, which were found all over north Africa and the like. They were noticeably larger than mainland African lions and their manes were also much thicker, making it difficult to do the throat bite thing cats love to do on them. Meanwhile the tigers that the romans likely had as stock were mostly likely imported from western India, them being weaker Bengal tigers that were likely malnourished, sick, and traumatized due to being shipped across a third of the world on archaic ships. The bears are likely in a similar situation, as the Romans also used primarily the African black bear, which is also now extinct, and like most other Asiatic bears are fucking beta pussies. Makes sense that it's such a wash if you look at it like that

>Literally only one legit source from an actual fight where the tiger blew the fuck out of the lion
>All the others are the lion getting the drop, the fight being rigged, or romantic poetry of the lion

Scar was powerful because of his brains and schemes and power of manipulation.

Shere Khan is just a big cannon.

it depends on the setting. if it's just a brawl, Khan pushes Scar's head back out his ass.
if it's a big game, Scar turns the whole jungle against Khan

I’m sure somebody like the Roman gladiatorial arenas have set up a showdown like this at some point. There would be a lot of unnatural factors fucking up the outcome, though, like how malnourished or stressed each cat would likely be after the travel to get there.

Shere khan and a lioness would make tigons, not ligers. Tigons are a fuck of a lot smaller. Only a male lion mating with a female tigress makes ligers.

The time it takes depends on external favors like the health and size of the attacked animal, the number of attacks, and the likelihood of infection. A guar for example may take days to drop compared to the hours in a deer, however guar have a nasty habit of fleeing to water which they also enjoy shitting in which infects the wounds (this is where the bacteria theory came from) which can rapidly speed up the process for when the animal dies.

>come to Yea Forums for comics
>get lessons on animal physiology and roman coliseum history instead
Not what I expected but neat all the same.

Yea Forums is love when you allow the posters.

You forgot where Khan creates an international corporation, exerts its influence on world goverments, and gets a bounty on black maned lions declared.

You're confusing elegance with sophistication.

Animal fights were a thing up until the 1900s when laws prohibiting it started to show up.
In victorian london they used to have animal fight shows, there was one particular thing I read about once where they would import lots of different animals and have them take part in death matches. At one point they had the idea to use a performing monkey with a sword in the matches, and he won pretty much every time.

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Anyone who owns large exotic animals and is hands on with them gets got eventually. Chimp owners epically. Good Lord chimps are like demons.

>Not falling for Kaa's hypnotism
>Not falling for his obvious lies
>Knowing that cooperation is easier than brute force

It's more than elegance. He may not be Einstein or Sherlock, but he is clever.

On the other hand, Scar's not exactly brilliant either.
Setting up the stampede trap is not exactly 4D chess. Anyone can do it. Also the moment Scar took over the pridelands, he ruined everything. He can't manage anything, even losing control of his own troops. That's not very smart. I doubt Shere Khan would lose them.

If anything, they're equally cunning. But Khan is also strong AND charming.

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>I haven't seen any man cub, but I was just about to enjoy a pot of hunny

>not falling for his obvious lies
>didn't investigate further despite obvious lies and strange noises

His hypnotism resistance is just his final boss plot armor kicking in.

At the start of the film Gaston took down a whole flock of airbourne geese flying away from him in the span of about 3 seconds with his blunderbuss.
During his song he also showed that he can fire his gun multiple times in a row, either because he's that good or fast enough at reloading that his reloads are invisible to the naked eye.

Clayton is screwed because Gaston makes reality his bitch.

Shere Kahn would win handedly. For one thing male lions are super weak and another, Tigers are like twice as big.

So you telling me, Disney!Khan is a dick for absolutely no reason at all?

What about Mufasa vs. Khan?
Disregarding Mufasa's good guy bonus he was shown to be a pretty big lion.

You guys are all faggots, it's obvious Bambi's mom killer would win against everyone.

>You guys are all faggots

Where do you think you are?

Indeed.

I always assumed that was Gaston

>For one thing male lions are super weak

[citation needed]

Who would win here?

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This... seems sexual

>polar bears who are for all intents and purposes ice tigers

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When is furry art not sexual?

my nigga

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Those are smaller european or asian bears. Here in MURICA, we got the big shit. Let's see a cat take on an adult polar bear or a grizzly.

Hyenas are also cuter.
Will admit, even if they were bad guys on the lion king i still rooted for them and felt a need to pet them.

Khan would wins hands down no problem, even if it was the book one. Only way Scar would win is if he had lots of time to plan and was on his home turf.

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Nobody bends reality like gaston

Neat thread going on

He also fed on the parasites, that's how he got so big.

I can't imagine who this tiger is other than Khan himself.

Tawky Tawny? With an ATTITUDE?

Megakhan
Scarscream

Okay, while the land-based combat is settled
Fight to the death in a large aquarium
Adult saltwater crocodile
Great white shark
Orca

Bonus - a pissed off hippo (probably loses, though).

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people are so clueless.

i will help. If you take a male Lion in his Prime and a male tiger in his prime. Both with the best genetics. The Lion has one big advantage that will grant him the win.
Its the Mane. Most people dont even know why male lions have a mane.

Isn't it just there to impress their peers?

mane protect his neck and throat

Disney!Khan has one fear, and that is fire. Fire is his worst nightmare. Humans use fire and can weaponize it, so Khan hates them.
Compare with King Louie wanting the secret to fire, despite the fact that Mowgli was raised by wolves and should have no idea about fire. Fire in the disney Jungle Book is absolutely tied to humans

We make /an/ proud.

I honestly have no idea who those 2 characters are but a tiger would kill a lion 9/10 times

You can't be serious.

The size of the mane is a factor yea, but the true appeal/intimidation comes from coloration. As it happens, males with darker manes are more appealing to females and threatening to rival males.

The question posed is if it was Scar vs Shere Khan, though. Scar is not in his prime, does not have good genetics, and his mane sucks.

Scar could barely hold his own against a insectivore lion with no experience fighting.
Shere Khan scared the entire jungle with his mere presence. This isn't a regular lion vs tiger debate, this a weak, old, fragile lion vs a tiger who's clearly at the top of his game.

Is that an american tiger?

They were only in the movie for a few seconds.

Its one of the ones kept in China by monks in a "tiger sanctuary", they overfeed them deliberately so that stupid tourists can safely interact with them and take stupid pictures.

I do want to see them fuck and I am gay

What about the leopard from Tarzan?

Who had/has the better voice?

George Sanders
youtu.be/LCFVu_mVlbw?t=159
youtu.be/_efXtu_BQa8?t=44

Jeremy Irons
youtu.be/zKmrzV3N9Fc

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Assuming the fight takes place at the climax of the Jungle Book (because some lions live in asia, but tigers don't live in africa)

Khan would have beat the living fuck out of Scar initially, perhaps even killing him. However, if Scar could hold out until the lightning begins, perhaps by using Mowgli as bait, he wouldn't have been afraid to fight dirty by swatting burning embers in Khan's face and striking while Khan is blind. It STILL might not be enough because Khan is strong and as far as I remember there weren't any convenient cliffs nearby for Scar to try and throw Khan over, but it's possible he could win in that instance. In a straight up, no-tricks fight Khan would dominate though.

Also for all the /an/ fags arguing over whether a tiger would beat a lion or a lion beat a tiger, wikipedia's got a page on it as usual lmao
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_versus_lion

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_versus_lion
>Roman Emperor Titus had Bengal tigers compelled to fight African lions, and the tigers always beat the lions.[66]
>Haughton, Samuel (1871). "Lectures on the principle of least action in Nature, illustrated by animal mechanics". The Medical Times and Gazette: A Journal of Medical Science: 625–627.

The wiki is full of references by both modern day naturalists and ancient Roman spectators talking about how the tigers almost always won in a straight fight.

Yeah reading through all the historical accounts and even looking at modern day videos of them fighting on youtube it looks like the tigers usually win, not always but usually.

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I love George Sanders but I think Jeremy Irons is a little better suited to cunning predator.

Leopards are relatively puny by comoarison and Sabor was canonically an opportunist. Would probably not strike at Khan at all and back off after Scar put up a fight

The issur is, if we go by the movie going for the throat isn't Khan's style. He orefers using his claws.

The mane trick might protect Scar once, but if he can't capitalize on it he's cat food

>that pic
>having a mane means nothing if your opponent just bites your face off

Being furfag is even worse.

>Kemonomimi garbage.

Scar would have some kronies helping him. No one likes Kahn.

khan could just intimidate the hyenas
>scar promised you to never be hungry again
>i promise that you'll live to see that day

Where is Sabor from?

Disney's Tarzan

>timon and pumbaa discover simba's secret stash of zebra jerky

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meerkats are omnivores and will eat small rodents and reptiles and warthogs will also eat small birds, mammals, and reptiles too

>fullgrown bear
Black bear, a Grizzly or Polar would've one shotted.

So Maleficent?

youtube.com/watch?v=Y0b0flbq7Ac
For me, its the Lion.

Still would set off some red flags. Remember they were FRIGHTENED of predators?

Scar is a dicky licky sissy who needed the help of literal retards to pretend he was respectable. He couldn't take on a Chad like Khan.

>Shere Khan vs The Bear from Fox and the Hound

>Nobody bends reality like gaston
Here comes the dream team.

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>giant, retarded evergrowing monsters
Actually since its a male Tiger and a female Lion it be a Tigon and normal sized. Since both the mother and the father carry the gene that limits growth.

No one could beat that fucking bear.