"SUMC"

what was Sony thinking ???

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There's also movies in various stages of development based on Kraven and Nightwatch as well.

Far from Home is in the MCU btw, so it's not canon to Sony's own Marvel movies unless they opt not to renew the deal and convince Holland to continue in their own movies, thus forcing their own ones into the MCU. You'd assume that Feige stuck a clause in his contract so they wouldn't do that, but you never know.

They should just rebrand it as the Venom Cinematic Universe.

Or the MCU/Sony deal possibly ends after Far From Home, then Sony can cast a new Spider-Man.

FFH is not part of SUMC, not sure why that's on there.

Anyway, why? Well:

Venom's solo comic is popular, like crazy popular right now. It's at a point where it's outselling Superman. So it makes sense to start out a not-Spidey series with him to test out the waters.

Morbius makes less sense but he is however one of the few characters in the "Spider-Man package" that has received a solo series. A total of 41 issues may seem weak but you take what you can get.

Black Cat has received 6 miniseries, admittedly 2 co-star Wolverine but like with Morbius it is at least something. That and a heist movie seems like a relatively low risk.

Silver Sable, like Morbius, does have 40 solo issues. So there is some logicial reason to pick her.

Jackpot is the first question mark up there, my guess is that she qualifies as a superhero and putting her in a starring role makes more sense than let's say the Lizard.

Nightwatch (not on that list but something they're working on regardless, as are the following) has a shortlived solo series.

Kraven hasn't exactly had a series of his own but he is the focus on several noteworthy storylines.

Sinister Six do technically have 2 mini-series. Ultimate Six (which is part of Ultimate's continuity) and Superior Foes (which might as well star a parody of the group).

So there you have it, it's the table scraps you get when you're stuck with the Spider-Man license but can't use Spider-Man himself.

Sony most definitely wanted the casual audience to think Venom was part of the MCU, hence that infamously wishy-washy interview with Amy Pascal, so given the chance they'll absolutely continue on with Holland.

More like SCUM!

>Outselling Superman

This shit real? Bendis fucked it up that much?

Yup.

Venom #11 sold 84,904 copies in february.
Superman # 8 sold 50,475.

What about Action Comics

There's no real reason they can't still keep Holland if he wants to renegotiate his contract when it expires.

Action Comics #1008 sold 44,084 copies, so both the Superman comics sold worse than Venom in february.

>If we can make even half of what marvel are making with their cinematic universe we'll be golden

Not that Bendis has been good or anything but Superman hasn't been a top seller in years. Decades even. It sells well but not in the top ten, it slips out of the top 25 a lot too.

Venom is outselling every X-Men book as well. He's outselling an X-Men "Age of" event.

To be fair, who wants to read an event about two cucks getting their rocks off over Jeannie getting niggered?

>We live in a timeline where the Goo monster outsells Superman and the X-Men

Oh great, another shared universe of bad cape flicks.

Ow, that's hard.

The MCU movies are clearly trying to establish the Sinister Six, Holland can't be done until at least a third movie where shit pays off. Sony has no reason to sabotage their new trilogy right in the middle, you guys realize they're still the ones producing and getting all the BO, right?

Oh no no no, Age of X-man is far more pointless than that
>X-men are all dead and mutants have been exterminated for the 3rd or 4th time since the year 2000, so you know it's not going to stick
>X-men that "died" are actually just in a totalitarian alternate reality run by X-man, aka Age of Apocalypse Cable, where the staff are struggling to keep the kids brainwashed because apparently Angel is just the worst
>Hank McCoy is the creator of the mutant cure that for realsies works this time because Hank is a dirty race traitor
>but wait back in the main continuity like thirty random x-men are still around for no reason and are off doing something pointless like taking down sentinels or something even though almost nobody is left

Whatever venom is up to is going to be more relevant in 1-2 years than anything the x-men are up to.

At least Shark Girl is at the lunch table in the new comics.

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woah wait, Sony has the option of retconning their movies into the MCU?

>Venom was fun because there were no connected movies it had to lean on and the characters were interesting enough in their own self-contained film
>LOL LET'S MAKE A SPIDER-MAN CINEMATIC UNIVERSE

So does Venom, FFH and the other Sony movies take place in a timeline created from Quantum Realm fuckery?

When did Superman stop being a top seller exactly?

Bendis gonna bend

The whole event was written just so that those two soys could wank it over Jeannie getting niggered.

Sony's Universe of Cool Characters or SUCC for short

t. not part of SUMC GANG.

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So is it specifically known just whose film rights Sony owns? I always just assumed it's everyone who debuted in Spidey-related comics, but then those Sony email hacks showed that Sony were negotiating with Marvel at one stage to use The Jury, who debuted in Lethal Protector, in the original incarnation of TAS3.

And Psylocke getting Blobbed. These people are degenerates.

>>>Or the MCU/Sony deal possibly ends after Far From Home, then Sony can cast a new Spider-Man.


Is that wise though, that would make the 4th reboot of the franchise in less than 20 years, and the only reason Spider-Man Homecoming did well is due to it having the MCU connection

>black cat
>silver sable
Pls

Keep in mind this is Sony, you know they don't care about what's wise. Another Spider-Man reboot isn't a good idea, but for everyone that's not a teenaged girl or a gay man, continuing indefinitely with the current Spider-Man may not be a good idea either.

>At least Shark Girl is at the lunch table in the new comics.

based

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It's difficult to say what they have without a list being made public. Characters who made their debut in Spider-Man books, yet later had their own ongoing solo titles, like Venom, Morbius, Silver Sable and Nightwatch were all included, yet Cloak & Dagger were not. They appear to have the rights to every version of Spider-Woman, despite Jessica Drew and Julia Carpenter not originating as part of the Spider-Man franchise. Riot was the villain of the Venom movie, and made his debut in the same miniseries as The Jury, so it makes no sense that Sony would need to negotiate to use them.

I guess maybe "Symbiotes" as a whole are in the package they bought? I'm thinking that because New Line's aborted Venom movie with Dolph Lundgren from the late '90s also had Venom and Carnage, but no Spidey.

I still hate niggered Jean more. She was always Marvel’s pure gal, with Sue as the Mother and Jan as the slut. This whole thing is just ugly.

Whatever other relationship drama Marvel wants to do, Sue should be married to Reed, Jean should be married to Scott, Wanda should be married to Vision, MJ should be married to Peter, and no love triangle drama or cuckold-fetish stories for any of them. Medusa and Black Bolt aren't as important to Marvel, but should probably be included too. Editors should have considered the long term picture and not allowed writers, no matter how big a star they were, to permanently ruin any of this the way they have.

>Le Sony

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