Hot take: the Joel Schumacher Batman movies are the best Batman movies

Hot take: the Joel Schumacher Batman movies are the best Batman movies

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I would probably agree, with the proviso that Batman Begins is the best attempt at a "serious" Batman movie.

In terms of campiness they are but I can't say that for them being actually good.

Batman and Robin is the best batman movie, it doesn't take itself seriously and pulls all the bullshit the batman from the comic does pretty well.

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They felt the most "comic booky". In a good way

Batman and Robin wasn't that great, but I loved Batman Forever. Why can't Batman be light hearted every once in a while?

Do Jim and Tommy still dislike each other?

I'd stil say the Burton ones are better, but the Schumacher ones gets more crap than they deserve. And Batman 66 is in a demented league of it's own.

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Let's be honest, Batman & Robin is basically just 90s Adam West Batman.

I'd agree if somebody could show me a Batman 66 villain that had the same sort of weirdly melancholy moments Mr. Freeze had, like the bit with the snowglobe.

If Batman '66 gets a pass for being fun and campy there's no reason that Batman Forever and Batman and Robin shouldn't either. Joel made some creative missteps in deviating from Burton's movies, but fanatics harassing the poor guy even to this day is excessive.

I don't know about that (Returns 4 lyfe) but I always liked Forever and was kind of surprised to find out it was so looked down on. I can't remember much of Batman & Robin, but the vitriol has always seemed overwrought. Especially when it's dumb shit like complaining about Mr. Freeze making ice puns, come on.

Batman Begins and Dark Knight is the best serious Batman. Can't leave out Dark Knight

To be honesty, I kinda have some appreciation for Batman & Robin for being so Silver Age. I just hated Shoemaker's version of Robin.

Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy was my first boner and I still fap to it regularly.

Batman > Forever > Returns > And Robin

I feel like no film director has ever really "understood" Batman. Like I remember Nolan saying that "there's no way Bruce would want to do this forever", hence why he retires at the end of Rises, but I'm pretty sure that Bruce is incapable of giving up that fight. He just can't. Even if he does retire, he'll get back into it eventually anyway. He can't stop.

Literally flip it all and you're correct. As it is, this is truly shit taste.

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In a world where the MCU have the best comicbook movies... yes.

I like his version of Gotham; covered in neon and statues the size of skyscrapers. It's like the city planner was on shrooms.

The reality is that comic book characters' motivations, power levels, and everything else always change depending on the writer. Batman, just like all the other long-running comics characters, is basically just a handful of tropes that each writer then interprets according to his liking to create a more or less successful version of the character. There's nothing much to "understand" here.

As a kid the logo got me hype as fuck for no goddamn reason

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Right? All the excess of the rich and famous. The score helped too. I was always soft to the "main theme" of the Schumacher films, though I do miss the little end theme they played at the end of the first two films.

Funny enough, I recall them using it for the trailer for Forever but it was never heard in the movie.

At least stop making him kill people. Also, having him actually be a detective would be great too.