What if Sivana and Luthor made a deal to destroy each others enemies?

What if Sivana and Luthor made a deal to destroy each others enemies?

Luthor goes after Shazam, Sivana goes after Superman.

Would they succeed, or atleast come closer than usual?

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Luthor isnt gonna chase for some magical kid.

Sivana gets a Kryptonite knife

Neither of them would let anyone but themselves kill their arch-enemies

True but someone can always double dog dare them to do it anyway and appeal to their vanity.

I still like Sivana's plan of just slitting Billy's throat.

Sivana would succeed because he's pretty ruthless. If his inventions fail, then the doc will stab Superman with a kyrptonite prison shank.

Pretty sure this was covered in Superman/Shazam: First Thunder but it's been a while since I've read it.

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I wanna know why Sivana is so frail.
I mean he isn't that old right?

Even though I liked First Thunder, god the art is painful to watch

Being old and just having a rough time for a good chunk of his life.

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There's a number of factors at play, but underneath it all, Sivana's just an ugly goblin of a man. You can see the genetic component in his kids.

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I think it would be much more interesting if it was Mr. Mind and Brainiac instead.

Now that would be based.

Jeezus the apple doesn't fall far from the tree huh?

One half the apples got the beauty and emotions of their mother, the other half got the genius and conniving of their father. One could only imagine the danger upon the world if they got both.

Depends on the apple. Here are all four of his kids.

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>Mr. Mind plants a microscopic device on Clark without him noticing
>it's a "Shazam machine" that replicates the magic lightning using the power of Kryptonian gods whenever Clark says "Superman"
>but the lightning turns him into a human child instead, and the word to reverse it is different
>Mr. Mind uses the opportunity to kidnap him
>now Superman has to rely entirely on his was to escape and learn the magic word
>the magic word is Namrepus

*rely on his wits

That's exactly what Mr.Mind would do!
But what would Brainiac do to Shazam?

it would be the ultimate /fitlit/ villain

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>Brainiac intercepts Billy on his way to the Rock of Eternity after baiting him there
>Now his captive, he throws him into the "Omega Zone", an artificial, hyper-evolving reserve made by Brainiac himself
>Billy has to learn to survive the deadliest environment in the known universe
>but the catch is that the Dome also saps his magic the more he uses it, with Brainiac ultimately trying to use his magic as a battery
>so while Clark has to deal with no powers at all, Billy has to use all of his powers, but as wisely as possible to escape before he's drained entirely

Sivana looks awful without his lab coat, the businessman look does not fit him

Nice! You should do this with other villains user.

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>Luthor goes after Shazam

Really? Youd think he'd go after Captain Marvel. Shazam is just the wizard who gave him his powers.

Isn't Beautie the mother?

What about Black Adam and Zod
Or Ibac and Bizarro

I'm curious as to what other match ups could work.
>Shazam! Vs Parasite
>Billy hits Parasite with the Magic Lighting
>it backfires tremendously and turns Parasite into an almost perfect copy of Captain Marvel, with some minor difference to tell them apart like a reverse Thunderbolt insignia or something
>But now Parasite still has his cravings for more power
>it's now a race to stop Parasite from infiltrating the Justice League/JSA and draining as many heroes as he can
>bonus points if a second villain tries to manipulate Parasite in his new form in an attempt to smear the Big Red Cheese's good name in the process

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looks like he wants to go to six flags

Nice Quads!
But I think resolving this issue will be very simple. Superman and Billy will trick Parasite into saying his name and reverting him to his non-powered form. Then they proceed to beat the shit out of him.

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Kek

No, she's his daughter.

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Honestly I didn't even think of that, that's way better than what I had in mind.

>Monster Society vs Bizarro
>the Monster Society wants to make an alliance with Bizarro World, in an attempt to trick them into invading Earth.
>Mr. Mind and Bizarro arrange a meeting as ambassadors to their respective teams
>this goes disastrously wrong as Mr. Mind gets increasingly more frustrated and confused by Bizarro's obtuse way of thinking and backwards logic
>eventually he completely loses it and launches a full-scale invasion out of rage
>but this also fails spectacularly, because Bizarro's logic is so alien to him he's unable to adapt to his new opponent and they end up retreating

Post more hot Georgia pls

>spoiler
I see he's learned a few tricks from Mr. Myxzptlk.

Sounds like a Wander over Yonder episode.

You can't kill shazam he is even stronger than superman, Billy on the other hand is no more bulletproof than any other 12 year old, if Mr mind wasn't stupid he would just RPG the orphanage or something.

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>orphanage
Foster Home*

Heh heh heh, it has windows right?

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Pre-crisis, their mother was the queen of Planet Venus.

Post-crisis, their mother was just a supermodel named Venus.

They already coordinated in Superman/Shazam First Thunder - not quite in the tropist way you describe, but they shared assets so that Sivana could kill Billy which was a major plot point in the book.

Yeah, that was a mistake, trying to make him too much like Lex was in those days. Full On Mad Scientist is a far superior look for him.

Also a huge mistake by Cereal Lord and for the live action movie.

Damn, Sivana does not fuck around.

He tried to murder Billy in his sleep on three separate occasions.

Cereal Lord was trying to give Sivana some kind of arc where he starts out as a Lexlike but then slowly evolves into Classic Sivana over time.

Which might have worked if there hadn't been a five year gap between Shazam stories.

Twinkee snarffer stripped Sivana of his uniqueness and turned him into just another Marvel derivative like Black Adam.

>Cereal Lord was trying to give Sivana some kind of arc where he starts out as a Lexlike but then slowly evolves into Classic Sivana over time.
I noticed how that seemed to be the case with a lot of DC characters in general during the new 52. Have them start off radically different, only for them to slowly morph into their original counterparts over time. Problem is it was rarely ever executed well and just felt sloppy at best.

isn't beautie his wife?

No, Venus is his (ex)-wife. That's where Magnificus and Beautie get their looks.

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What happened to that robot?

When did they separate ? For what reasons ?

This is the Sivana household. It was probably just doing the laundry.

Why so Rusty though?
Also its giving me a lot of Helper vibes, I feel like that robot is a bit mistreated.

Not sure.

>rust
That's adorable

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Wasn’t it because Sivana cheated on her?

Looking up that panel it sure seems like it.

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They separated because he kept banging hotter women. Not even kidding.

He's Jewish

Well he was kicked out of every country in Europe if I’m not mistaken but its more allegorical than flat out stated.

The best part about that comic was Sivana being an asshole in congress.

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So Sivana is a Kavorka man?

I want to protect his evil smile

In his youth. He seems to be a bit old for such foolishness now. Venus still had enough feelings to ask Black Adam & Isis to go looking for him in 52 though.

Does Sivana love his family? Does he treat his daughters and sons well

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He does, he has a good family dynamic for an evil scientist.

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I wanna hold hands with Georgia

He hated the fact that Darkseid mind-controlled her. I think that's the only reason he helped Lex during Final Crisis.

Sivana loves his children as he loves his inventions

Sivana is so chad that he cucks his wife
not otherwise

The Sivana family are actually rather close. Even the non-chad members helped out with crimes, before DC got their filthy mits on them.

It's also implied that bubble head Beautia is pretty competent at the mad science as well, at least enough to help Sivana Snr. build doomsday machines.

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This is why Sivana might have the edge on Luthor when it comes to killing Superman. They're both narcissistic geniuses, but Sivana isn't above using dirty, simple solutions to his problems.

I like to think both of them consider the other their ugly friend that makes them look better in contrast.