Alternate Timeline: Bruce Wayne decides to be a doctor like his father before him, meets Harleen Quinzel in med school, they marry and live long, happy lives. For the first years, Bruce is still tormented by his survivor's guilt, but having kids of his own cures him of his survivors guilt, shown by telling his parents' grave "I now know why you would put your bodies between the mugger's weapon and me. Because I would do the same for my children."
Would you read this? Even if only a couple issues?
I'd give it a go. Give it the plot twist Harley gets tempted by the guy who becomes Joker or Joker himself but decisively rejects him due to her love for Bruce. Actually show Bruce and Harleen being truly and genuinely loving to one another for life.
Asher Stewart
I'd go with the second one which would happen after possibly marrying Bruce or very close to it, either before or after getting engaged.
Also Bruce trying to help Frieze with his wife
Brandon Clark
God no. I wouldn't even read the previews.
Ian Rogers
Only if it ends with Bruce getting mugged, but stopping the mugger
Caleb Perez
Would Harley try to cheat on Bruce with his ward Dick Grayson?
Josiah Russell
Could be nice. Personally, I'd like an AU where Dr. Quinzel falls for Batman instead of the Joker, either becoming his main contact at Arkham or actively joining his crimefighting.
Benjamin Walker
I concur with this.
Colton Lewis
Nice.
Cameron Evans
>Only if it ends with Bruce getting mugged in front of his son but not fighting the mugger and nobody gets hurt.
Jaxon Gomez
So...most of his Rogues are still created, but with no Batman to fight them?
That can't possibly go bad.
Jason Mitchell
Thing is, almost all of his rogues end up in Arkham. So you can still have them getting taken down by Police or Alan Scott or some other superhero and have them meet Bruce and Harley in Arkham.
Zachary Diaz
True, but aren't most of them created directly/inadverdently byt Batman or their issues worsened by him leading to them being his Rogues? I'd like that too
Ethan Morris
>but aren't most of them created directly/inadverdently byt Batman Not really. Clayface, Freeze, Ventriloquist, Riddler, Mad Hatter, Penguin, Ivy, ManBat...all made independently.
Also, anyone that wants to see a comic where Bruce is a doctor should read 'Batman of Arkham'. Thats exactly what it was, minus marrying Harley.
Why is it the idea of Batman and Harley Quinn so appealing? I think, for me, is because they're both glutton for punishment and abuse.
David Adams
There's more interesting scenarios with Harley and Bruce in an alternate universe come on.
Think of like, Bruce becoming more of a dashing rogue thief and them becoming Gotham's Bonnie & Clyde or something.
Owen Smith
I would like a series where Bruce became a cop and is basically the protege of Gordon. He would work to fight crime, both super and non, from the force. Now that I'm typing it out it sounds like a sequel series to Gotham or something.
Jayden Diaz
>'Batman of Arkham I cannot express the joy I feel that this exists, thank you
Jordan Perez
>without Batman, the Red Hood is sucessful in that heist >he retires from crime, invests the money he got, gets rich >he takes the pregnant wife and kid to the theater to watch an old classic movie he loves, The Man Who Laughs >after leaving the theater and walking through Crime Alley, a knife wielding thug tried to rob them >wife gets murdered, he gets a glasgow smile >he swears that from that day one, he will haunt Gotham's criminals as a fearsome spectre for their worst nightmares
They complete each other in a weird yet logical way. Batman's stoic-yet-compassionate personality gives Harley the sort of partner she needs, while at the same time, her goofiness and psychiatric knowledge would help Bats come out of the shell he built around himself after his parents' deaths and generally deal with his many, many issues.
Camden Allen
Idk where this meme comes from but it never fails to make me laugh
Tyler Perry
Alternate Timeline: Bruce Timm didn't invent this shit annoying character and we where spared 2+ decades of her annoying LOL SO WACKY bullshit.
Kayden Young
Basically, we were trying to troll people who'd post images of Gordon while demanding to know the reason why Batman doesn't kill the Joker. Then it sort of took on a life of it's own, as is memes do.
Cameron Morris
Kino. Fuck, this is goddamn kino.
Isaac Butler
The only problem I see there, why would he call himself The Joker?
Landon Howard
>walking through Crime Alley He didn't believe the meme and paid for it with his sanity.
Landon Walker
>meets Harleen Quinzel in med school, they marry and live long, happy lives Until she cucks him with the joker
Hudson Wood
stop copying and pasting posts from funnyjunk faggot. i can see through your bullshit
Jack Edwards
>meets Harleen Quinzel in med school, they marry I don't know how you think this would happen
Zachary Jenkins
Pretty much what said. Plus, Harley's huge kiss of gratitude to Batman and request for him to "call her" at the end of Harley's Holiday makes it a lot more believable than you'd think.
Jaxon Baker
Which is weird that years later Timm had her "raping" Nightwing.
Nolan Howard
That does make me wonder. Are they any good what ifs where Joker is actually a good crimefighter?
I know there's a good ever. of him in a parallel universe but from what I've seen he is heavily underutilized.
I feel that the idea of seeing what a villain could do as a good guy is super interesting.
Landon Wright
Whats the twist? Does he end up becoming the joker when he and harleen have 1 bad day?
Jose Campbell
So, Thrillkiller?
Brandon Wright
Alternate timeline: after the Waynes are murdered and eight-year-old Bruce swears vengeance, Alfred realizes that the kid is clearly troubled, and instead of enabling him gets him the help he needs to process his grief. With the money Bruce inherited it becomes trivial hiring a good child psychologist. I.e. not one from Gotham, all psychologists in Gotham are incompetent, insane or evil, sometimes all three. After years of therapy and counseling Bruce ultimately becomes a well-adjusted adult who doesn't dress up like a bat to punch muggers every night, and instead uses the wealth he inherited from his parents to help children orphaned by violent crime get the psychological help they need to not grow up into vengeance-driven vigilante manchildren.
Asher Reed
Has there been an AU where all the rogues in Gotham never happened and they all live normal lives?
Grayson Lewis
Can anybody please post that Batman image of him crying in a dumpster after he found a bunch of weapons?
The action was in Gotham and he complained about the fact that after he cleared all the hidden weapon caches, there are still more and more.
Becoming the object of Harleen's obsession/infatuation, and attempts to reform him. Turns out she's only doing it to inherit the Wayne fortune, the betrayal drives bruce over the edge into becoming the Joker.
>I'm taking notes, I might genuinely like to write this out into an actual comic.
Really don't know how to feel about something like that. It's looks pointless overall. It's AU in which there is no Batman at all so it's just a typical days of humans life, you can hear stories like this every day. There is no need for Bryce and Harleen in this story, what's the point to involve them just to show you that they also can live normally? Hut I like them because they aren't normal people. It still could be a good dramatic story but whithout anything that I like in Batman.
Dominic Taylor
>For the first years, Bruce is still tormented by his survivor's guilt, but having kids of his own cures him of his survivors guilt, shown by telling his parents' grave "I now know why you would put your bodies between the mugger's weapon and me. Because I would do the same for my children."
I like this train of thought, but what if Bruce gets this epiphany from the man who murdered his parents instead? Have him run into one of Joe Chill's descendants or something while he's out with his kids. Bruce realizes that crime isn't always motivated by superstition and cowardliness but desperation and love for one's family too, the same emotions that can make a father and a Batman. I, Joker is pretty good in that regard, though it isn't really the Joker.
Jordan Hall
>Has there been an AU where all the rogues in Gotham never happened and they all live normal lives?
>Bruce Wayne marries Harleen Quinzel >Joker becomes a hero >Frieze get's help from Wayne corp. >Gordon is the police chef >Bullock and Greyson buddy cop stories >Barbara is a thief like Catwoman >former callboy Jason Todd marries his older mistress/pimp Selina Kyle >Tim Drake is just Tim Drake with nothing special about him >Damian Wayne never exists because Bruce only has daughters You guys can add more to this alt universe Gotham
I might read it if it was a one shot or an Elseworlds kind of thing, but don't want to read an entire series about it.
Justin Nguyen
>>he takes the pregnant wife and kid to the theater to watch an old classic movie he loves,
She died before the heist though, which was part of the reason that he still went through with it even though he had a bad feeling about the mobster guys who had recruited him.
Robert Diaz
>AU Joker becomes a better crimefighter than Batman
Bruce is rich. Gun control laws only apply to poor people, not to the aristocracy.
Jayden Lewis
Bruce tolerates Kate running around aping his entire shtick and being an overall cunt to him about it most of the time just because she's willing to play by his rules.
If Harley, especially a pre-Joker Harley, became so obsessed with him that she actively tried to help him, he'd let her. Remember that this is the same man who trains little boys to dodge gun fire and knock people the fuck out.
Kayden Murphy
Because only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun, and who among us can truly say they're good.
Jayden Walker
literally everyone has the right to own and carry a gun
It's not about the right but the morality as he said can any of us truly be called good?
Jose Nguyen
>The Dark Knight and his fun loving Jester
William Powell
They are having their human rights denied
Jack Sanders
Morally, everyone should carry a gun and use it to shoot bad people who use guns for evil. The act of using a gun to shoot an evil person makes you good.
Hunter Adams
What if you're actually the evil person, and the bad guy is the good guy?
Jack Lewis
Why would a good guy be mugging you?
Jordan Price
And the mentally ill, and apparently that includes people with agoraphobia (my brother).
Becase you're bad, and he'll give the money to good people.
Gavin Lopez
Are you a mongoloid? Why am I even replying to you, I fell for window licking buzzword meme bait.
James Perez
There is no federal law in the USA banning the mentally ill from owning guns. You have to be involuntarily committed or adjudicated for that to happen.
while they are in jail, sure. But after it is human rights denial
Adrian Roberts
socialism is the single most evil thing a person can be after a gun control advocate.
Michael Lewis
I want to see The Joker as Batman's Robin continuing on the fight after Batman died and gradually growing more and more insane.
Jaxon Gomez
Guns too the people is power to the people, and power to the people is socialist thinking. Only socialists likes guns.
Aiden Bennett
/pol/ fucked up this board way more than some made up Tumblr invasion ever did.
Ryan Rodriguez
Man you are pretty degenerate. He meant helping in the sense of that Bruce is fucking doctor in this alt universe.
Is there a single comic from this guy that0s not garbage?
Evan Barnes
>guy It's a chick who survived cancer
Jonathan Morales
because it,s all a joke. Just a fucking joke.
Jackson Martin
Cool for her but you didn't answer my question.
Hudson Murphy
Just saying you are both wrong that it's a guy and that the comics are garbage
Colton Hill
wait... Let's think about this: Harleen would be his contact inside Arkham.
So she's physically close to all those people who hate Batman.
in otherwords: Harleen becomes Oracle in that timeline.
Isaiah Hill
>bruce becomes a psychatrist working at arkaham actually fixing criminals
Juan Carter
I think they already did that AU and the twist was Bruce genuinely improves the on Gotham's criminal underworld by successfully treating and curing arkham patience and such. Though after some reforms within arkham itself.
Carson Flores
because he cant stop smiling no matter how hard it hurts?
Jeremiah Gomez
>guy who is expressly about praying on your fears tells you the world would be better without you
... Gee, what are his sources I wonder when Scarecrow is a psychiatrist and neurochemist and has no background that would suggest an ability to see into alternate timelines.
Justin Rivera
>Is there a single comic from this guy that0s not garbage? Mmmmost of them?
There actually was an Elseworlds (I think a Victorian one?) where Bruce was a psychiatrist at Arkham. Or a psychologist. Whatever, he dealt with crazies. More compassionate and interested in actually helping his patients than the brutish Dr. Crane.
Dominic Kelly
>Bane would die escaping the prison he ruled like a king and was otherwise able to escape >because Batman isn't there
>Poison Ivy didn't murder or brainwash loads of people to make a point about MUH TREES >because Batman isn't there >Mr. Freeze didn't hit a roadblock on saving his wife and turn to crime for funding >because Batman isn't there >Riddler didn't get bored with everyday challenges and start taunting cops with crimes >because Batman isn't there
>Harvey Dent didn't suffer from pre-existing psychological issues that were exacerbated by his disfigurement, and wasn't unable to accept proper skin grafts >because Batman isn't there >Catwoman- >I mean just, fucking what
Most of these are just lazy fixfic material. It's a less interesting rerun of the old BTAS episode where even the Arkham kangaroo court concludes that Batman isn't at fault for his supervillains, they're all just pretty fucked up and broken people.
Samuel Garcia
as a side note to this, I think if I did a run of batman as like the director or something, I'd want to establish that costumed loons have been part of Gotham crime for YEARS before Batman. (I guess Gotham's established that pretty well)
They were always crazy, some of them already using meta-human level abilities (Bane for example), the most Batman might have done is made them decide to start doing brandnaming on themselves.
Tyler Russell
Looks like we got ourselves a comedian over here
Jeremiah Young
because we trained him wrong, as a joke
Mason Morgan
And so he showed them how wrong they were by making them the joke That sounds like a good idea
So basically, the reason Arkham is such a shitshow is because Bruce Wayne was born too late.
Jordan Garcia
I always start out reading it with DCAU or Gary Oldman's voice but after a few in a row it's just Rick talking to Morty. With Batman responding "I-I don't know, Jim, that, that sounds like something we, y'know, we shouldn't do that, Jim, tw-two wrongs don't make a right, y'know?"
I think my favorite part is how easily I can see it happening.
>the other doctors at Arkham ask Harleen what her analysis of Batman is; something they ask all the newcomers since no two people seem to draw the same conclusion >Harleen (correctly) deduces that he must have suffered a severely traumatic crime-related loss at a young age >now that she's thought about it, she becomes fascinated by what sort of pain the Batman might be hiding beneath that mask >her first and foremost instinct is to find a way to ease that pain >step one is to try and forge a connection with him >she starts by being among the first to greet him whenever he brings in another supervillain >their exchanges remain professional, but over time Harleen picks up on the compassionate heart beating under his surface >her fascination slowly turns to infatuation, her idle moments filling with fantasies about healing this tortured yet still loving soul
Nolan Lewis
>something they ask all the newcomers that's actually a cool idea having the newbies do quick study of Batman to start them off
Brayden Foster
>her fascination slowly turns to infatuation and if he doesn't reciprocate I bet it would become obsession
Caleb Reyes
That's were the fun begins.
Elijah Lopez
Obviously she would have to start fighting crime herself if she wants his attention
Yeah, that's not the route I see it taking. I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, so Batman would eventually reciprocate. The fun is in the journey:
>Harley trying to figure out the best way to approach him and show him that she understands his pain and wants to help him overcome it >Batman finding himself caught off-guard that an Arkham doctor is not only reaching out to him, but has managed to deduce the source of his issues with surprising accuracy, wondering whether he should turn down such an earnest desire to help or whether he could maybe allow himself to open up just a bit...
Jeremiah Robinson
I believe there is a porn comic of Harley and Batman fucking
Eli Torres
There are tons of them, and even more fan art. People are gaga over this dumb thing.
