>Oh i guess i can upgrade everyone's livehood in a jiffy but it would make so many people out of job
>This is also why i literally let people die from cancer
>Because jobs
As technologies advance forward, it is natural for old jobs to become obsolete, it has been this way since the dawn of time. It is like complaning about why we should not have computer or smartphone because it would make people run out of telegram and cassette jobs
For a genius Reed has some retarded ass logic
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Indestructible clothing sounds like it would be pretty ridiculous, though. You'd never need to buy more clothes unless you outgrew them.
Say you
My wife has the same shoes with 3 different fucking color
Wasn't it established that Reed is paid by corporations to not release his tech to the public?
Doesnt sound very heroic.
Have you seen what people without jobs DO?
Of course he has, he's on Yea Forums.
>For a genius Reed has some retarded ass logic
You'd be surprised at how that happens in real life.
It isn't. It seems more like something Doom would do. It's funny, the depths Marvel will make it's supposed "heroes" stoop to in order to preserve the status quo.
So you're saying we need a population cull?
Reed is literally paid by big business to not do shit. Like he would rather let people die. Like just die.
Go away Thanos, nobody likes you
amusingly, the best answer is in here.
"indestructible clothing"
ok, great. But people are fickle creatures. they, constantly buy new cloths, not because the clothes are damaged.. just that they are old, and out of style.
The reality would be barges of "indestructable" clothing, we can't get rid of, can't recycle, and doesn't break down filling our oceans.
Oh god yes.
Unstable molecules can change their appearance. They arent fucking plastic
Just throw them in an alternate dimension duh. Reed can literally do that.
Pretty sure some Dr. Villain already has this motivation.
>Need to get rid of all the stupid people so that my grand inventions won't go to waste on their petty minds.
>Also need to make sure the population doesn't go back up, so I need to implement something for that
>Also need to get control of all the world's resources because I know how best to deal with them
Take over the world? Why would anyone want to do that?
Sue's clothes have been changing their appearance since issue 1.
Now you know what a Luddite is. And why they are retarded.
Just imagine what Reed can do. Not super science but just normal science.
>nuclear fusion generator
>efficient electrical motor
>5g
>lab grown meat
>cure for cancer
Like do any of these and see how far humans can advance.
Looks like everyone is in need of someone abit...superior here
So you're either underage or a jobless parasite.
Man, i remember when Tony refused to use the Infinity Gauntlet to cure fucking cancer because it would "hinder human kind's process somehow because everything would be too easy"
The best solution for this problem is for Reed to just not trust mankind. Like Einstein split the atom and the first thing people did was make a weapon of mass destruction. So Reed should just be hella skeptical and unsure about applying his tech to humanity at large because they could do terrible things with it like Doom and other villains do!
Go back to playing with your beeper, grandpa
Who wrote that?
Eh but aliens. Aliens he could trust am I right?
Alien aren't his responsibility.
I'd either go with that, or what Stephen Tolworthy suggested about Reed's inventions:
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>But being such a rich hypocrite
At least he cops to it, I'll give him that
>Bendis
Ok why am I not surprised?
You only need one person. Literally only one person to establish an easy get cure for cancer. Any author that does that in Marvel, I would respect them forever. Like just one. Force them to acknowledge that yes there is a cure for cancer in a world full of super scientist.
There is a cure, there are multiple cures actually. They just arent used because of lol reason
>Use a virus that makes everyone have a 1/2 chance of being able to reproduce or not
>No one dies, and the population would stop expanding at the current rate
>Medicine could be used to increase fertility if they really wanted it.
Would this work for overpopulation?
There was a character who would've cured cancer but marvel civilians lynched them to death as a teenager for being a mutant
Worth it. Dirty muties
How much does it even cost to make unstable molecule clothes? They probably would cost millions per suit.
Is it easy to get? What I'm suggesting is more of a marketing thing. Like they sell this anti cancer pills in the local pharmacy kind of thing.
>An app that gives you a literal god-like muscular body with peak strength, speed, stamina....with a low price of 99,99$ a day
>You dont even have to work out and can eat as much trash as you want, just turn on the app and you will have the body of a god
Would you pay, user?
>you can be a human god for $36,500 a year
The rich would become a new race
>go godmode for a day
>knock over an ATM
>go normal mode for like a week until all the avengers have lost interest in me and go after the jobbing crew or whoever
>use stolen bank funds for a week of godmode and expensive hookers, strippers and prostitiutes
>blow it all on a week of sucking and fucking
>die a week because annihilus came to earth for revenge against adam warlock or a sentinel dropped the statue of liberty on my apartment or some such bullshit
>content in all my life choices
I'm sure Reed would have next to no issue finding an easy means of replicating them.
None, Osborn used his as weapon, Reed refused to make his public because sell out, Wakanda refused to make their public because they are literal niggers ( no seriously)
>>Oh i guess i can upgrade everyone's livehood in a jiffy but it would make so many people out of job
I wonder if we ever get to a technical point when having a job of any kind becomes obsolete, what will happen?
>Reed refused to make his public because sell out,
When did that happen?
Couldn't the manpower and resources that went into the defunct industry go into education and producing of other necessities?
Wakanda is right to not share it desu. Let the rest of the world figure out how to not be fucktarded and maybe then they can be rewarded with the cancer cure. There are twenty billion super criminals half the "heroes" waste time with pointless civil wars and trying to arrest the Hulk or whatever, and no one has mastered the art of not raping mutants to death yet, so fuck 'em. Maybe give Spider-Man a little something for not being a huge fag; fuck the rest of them.
There was also this faggot
If you remove the jobs of 98% of the population all at once then you didn't improve their livelihood, kiddo. Capitalism doesn't work that way. It's perfectly reasonable to withhold random superhero tech like invincible clothes since it's just going to fuck society over.
There's no defending withholding a cure for cancer though, or sources of clean energy, or infinite food. That's just bad writing.
heh nothin personel kid
As presented, there are way too many unanswered questions, and that's before you get into the legal issues.
Go away Matt
That would just be a hilarious rebuttal
>You want to know the truth, Parker? I don't really know how to make more unstable molecule suits, I just took them from the Skrulls I brainwashed.
Reminder that Pym created a mansion full of infinite resources connected to everywhere in the universe and he used it as a living space for the Avengers and teleportation device instead of ending all conflict for resources and creating an intergalactic renaissance.
Did anyone ever stop to ask if dinosaurs get cancer?
>Spider-man has hacked Tony's shit before
>Tony 100% didn't patent/copyright/etc that shit
>literally just ask Spider-man to make it free
>all villains are now heroes
>all heroes are now villains
>ITT: entitled children whine about how the mean ol superheroes won't give them the shiny toys
Fuck you. No seriously, what planet do you live on? Cause here on Earth, the very first thing human beings would do is absolutely turn the cure for cancer into a weapon. People are monstrous cunts who only care about dicking other people over, even at their own expense. Stop being a cunt, and then you will have the right to cry about it.
Collectivist totalitarian philosophy like yours is what has lead to the worst crimes humanity has ever encountered.
>smartest man on the planet
>can´t figure out that tony stark and iron man are not the same person despite his "body guard" and him never been seen at the same time
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
The whole of human history stands as indisputable proof that we are psychotic morons who cannot be trusted with any technology that has even the slightest potential to cause harm. The worst crimes of our species are the fault of the fact we exist, nothing more.
First you make indestructable clothes. Then before you know it the fashion industry is turning kids trans so they can sell more cute skirts.
Maybe both? Like Reed is one of the few people who can work with jury-rigged alien technology but he also knows that shit is too dangerous for the public at large.
Reed is thinking of those fourth worlders slaving away for pennies so that corporations can make billions of dollars. Good man.
Yeah, a combination of the two works, too.
There was a movie about indestructible clothing back in the black and white movie days already you dummies.
The lesson was "don't make a good product", capitalism needs failure and planned obsolesence or we'll kill you.
Don’t pretend like reed can’t science all of the worlds pollution into non-existence if he wanted to
100 dollars per day is a rather good price for a perfect body with no illnesses whatsoever and there is no drawback to the app other than its high cost.
Haven't encountered so many buzzwords in a single post in a long time.
Any attempt at engagement with the contradictions inherent in big two cape universes, in which wondrous technology exists and yet the world is very much the same, always feels hollow. Their given justifications vary in reasonableness - this one is pretty bad the - but you know the real answer is always the same. The world can't be too advanced because it has to feel like ours.
I think that comics would be better and readers would be happier if everyone just kind of accepted that fact. No efforts to explain why Reed doesn't solve poverty and world hunger. He just doesn't, okay? It's a book about the stretchy science man fighting villains. If you want experimental fiction about how tech that borders on magic would change the world, go dive into some harder sci-fi.
>go dive into some harder sci-fi
Sure, as soon as some sci-fi comics get published, I will go read them. What's that? There aren't any sci-fi comics because the industry is near exclusively saturated with superheroes? WELP.
If anybody knows any I would actually love recommendations for hard sci-fi comics.
>He just doesn't, okay? It's a book about the stretchy science man fighting villains.
No, not okay in this instance.
The book in question is Spider-Man: Life Story in which the series starts from Peter's actual year of creation in the 60s and each issue jumps 10 years ahead.
In that vein since the story actually illustrates the times changing it becomes difficult to shrug at its state relative to our own timeline.
This series is going to cover 60 years time total in fact, and it'd be a bit odd given Zdarsky's own premise if we start with well funded and respected geniuses since day one and yet it's no different in the end.
The real reason is that the textile industry is paying Reed off to not release his shit, like this user said
The thing is, the Future Foundation was already advancing things going by what Ock said: mobile communications, advanced prosthetics, safe dimensional travel. There should be ramifications by the 80's. We also don't know what effect Peter's words will have on Reed till we see the rest of the run.
Reed doesn't want to change things. He wants Earth to evolve at "its own pace", whatever the fuck that means.
>Reed has some retarded ass logic
you say so, but people apply the same logic to letting whoever have kids which is severally destroying the planet and any hopes of human beings establishing an equilibrium with the environment, but still it's allowed because implementing restrictions or in this case of a product would make some people uncomfortable
it's actually an incredibly realistic human way of looking at it, and it's also why humans are doomed
Pretty sure Johnny tried making money out of unstable molecule clothes once only to find out it would cost too much to produce and no one would buy them enough to turn a profit
Reed doesn't want to change things. He wants Earth to evolve at "its own pace", whatever the fuck that means. He wants to use his super science for his own adventures, but doesn't want anyone else to benefit, because clearly plebians should figure things out on their own.
OK user, I'll bite. Would a weaponized cure to cancer be any deadlier than the countless weapons humanity already has? Why would anyone even bother using the cure to cancer when bullets and bombs are better and probably less expensive? Not to mention all of the deadly biological weapons we also already have.
In other words, nobody would bother turning the cure to cancer into a weapon even if they could, because there would be no point. By your logic, the cure to any disease ever could be used as a weapon, but so far nobody has ever done so because it's inefficient and stupid.
Well, guess that teaches me not to comment on panels I don't know the context of. Though I do think that the principle still applies in most cases.
I'm glad that somebody else remembered that. That was indeed the perfect justification for why unstable molecules aren't available to the public, but sadly nobody seems to remember it.
>There aren't any sci-fi comics
You must be retarded. Like, genuinely, actually retarded.
>caliban
>Valerian and Laureline
>2000 AD
>screaming planet
>Black science
>alien 3
>Golden Age
>Men in Black (mostly)
>atomic robo
>black hammer
>atlantis
>brave old world
You don’t get to bitch about capeshit when you clearly know less than nothing about the medium or any non big 2 publisher.
I don’t even want you to read these books, I want you to kill yourself.
And superheroes are the worst of us.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Johnny did manage to make a bunch of firemen suits outta unstable molecules so they wouldn't get hurt right
Compare these depictions of Reed Richards with pic related. Hickman understood Reed far better.
>evolve at "its own pace", whatever the fuck that means.
It means people need time to acclimate to this new technology so the ins and outs of it can be properly and commonly understood. The public needs to ease into this stuff or else awful things will happen. Just look at what happens every time some new thing comes along. People don't take too well to change, it takes time.
A weaponized cancer cure would likely be more subtle and hard to detect, making it much more difficult to counter.
>Earth invaded by interdimensional beings mad their homeland was polluted by Humanity's waste
>Ironically their armor is incredibly strong because it's made mostly of unstable molecules
It's high cost and being addicted to the lifestyle once you have it.
>eurotrash
>indieshit
>licensed crap
>obscure garbage nobody has heard of
Any time you want to name off something worth reading, go right ahead.
>Just look at what happens every time some new thing comes along
People get used to it pretty quickly. There's usually some old folks who are all "I don't like the thing", but those people get ignored and society simply moves on with the new things and then makes even more advancements on the new things. What "awful things" are you talking about exactly? People complaining?
Also, Reed is arguing to simply never introduce people to new things period. No acclimitation.
>A weaponized cancer cure would likely be more subtle and hard to detect, making it much more difficult to counter.
Now you're just making up hypotheticals. Even if your contrived scenario was true, guess what, we already have that kind of stuff, it's called poison.
>I didn't read anything on the list so I'll post buzzwords
I'm convinced you don't read comics in general
Adorable sentiments, but seeing how Reed's already gone into space the majority of his life with ease and comfort, once even privately vacationing with his wife on Titan as a luxury, yet has not provided such opportunities or even shared the valuable information from such experience he's apparently so eager to explore with anyone outside his already well taken care of circle, well, his speech to a politely speechless, nonargumentative and considerably less influential crowd falls a little flat, at most it says little to nothing about his pragmatic proposal and more projects a lack thereof onto others.
Also the supposition that an increase in numbers not following an availability of resources can be "solved" with just "going" elsewhere is quite the oversimplified thought process.
You're not going to find a stocked grocery store waiting for you in space, let's just get that out of the way.
Hickman's efforts are unfortunately wasted against a backdrop of ineptitude or indifference until now. However, as for efforts around another individual of considerable esteem and accomplishment on his Earth and its Counter...
Men in black isn’t licensed, the movie is based off the book.
It falls under 'obscure garbage'. Almost nobody knows nor cares that MIB was originally a comic. Hell, it wasn't even exclusively about aliens. They also dealt with cults and shit.
No, I read comics, I just don't care for uninteresting swill.
Why is something bad if it's obscure?
This is the same Reed Richards who lives off the money of people buying his patents for cures, treatments, and other devices that makes life easier...Which are then sat on forever by the ones who buy it, or toned down to bilk as many people for money as possible.
Reed is an asshole.
Yeah, they buy up the patents, the money from which he uses to keep the lights on in the Baxter building and fund his other projects.
That's not even close to rich level, user. That's middle-income.
Three million? THREE MILLION? That's it? That product is worth billions yet Reed can be bribed with only 3 millions? For the world's smartest man, he's terrible at money.
Because it's likely obscure for a reason.
This is all easy to say when your family is the one with all the super-tech.
>Reed
>Osborne
>Wakanda
>Some random mutie
At this point you really do have to question the contrivances here. We'd be more willing to ignore the cancer cure problem if writers didn't keep bringing it up while *simultaneously* trying to make the Marvel Universe just like ours but with superheroes.
Like how aliens are supposed to be mythical creatures that only a kook would believe in *BUT* the last president kicked off his campaign by shooting one in the head on live television.
hes just a selfish cunt. been that way from jump. doom is the one who cares about humanity, reed doesnt consider him and his family part of the general public and has only cared about his and his family's fun and safety from the get go.
>a bloo hoo hoo nobody cares about my hipster trash a bloo hoo
Sounds like you're the one with hurt feelings, friendo.
>More advanced
Hold up, can any grognards confirm this or not? Marvel Earth has had like Atlanteans (or whatever the mariners people are) asgardians, and literal creator races that spawned galactus and other baddies. Is reed just playing to the crowd or what?
>They've joined forces with the beings from the electrochemical universe where Reed openly broadcasts his notes on the super-PDA
>They've built a 1:1 Reed mindclone to predict his and all of Earth's defense
Is there such a thing as an unwitting evil mastermind?
Reminder that everyone on Extremis 3.0 already had it in their system through contaminated drinking water. Tony just put it behind a paywall to make millions activating it.
I honestly feel like Reed is a coward. He's too afraid to deal with the inevitable things that come up with what he invents and would rather disengage than actually work up a solution.
He's damn near a sociopath in how much he would rather research and sit in his ivory tower and do right by his family/close friends
(Minus curing Ben or giving him the ability to at least shift back and forth) and especially how increasingly contrived his excuses become in sidestepping the issue of actually working and applying the things he comes up with in ANY impactful capacity.
Because of this I have always felt DC has the more competent worldbuilding specifically because they chose to do away with the issue of using the "real world" by making it fictional but "close enough" in the comics and thus, can get away with making it more advanced or altered as needed without running into this lore and setting writing brick wall.
If anyone wants to make a universe of cape books that route is a far better option.
Venture Bros? This is the same cut and jib the OSI told Rusty to keep the teleporter a secret.
Van Gogh's art was pretty much unknown when he was making it. Is Van Gogh a bad painter?
Reminds me of this.
And this ended with Superman turning around and destroying earth so they couldn't colonize other planets.
Evil Reed is alpha as fuck.
That entire comic keeps getting funnier every time I reread it. I don't think that was the authors' intention.
>Like how aliens are supposed to be mythical creatures that only a kook would believe in *BUT* the last president kicked off his campaign by shooting one in the head on live television.
FUCKING THIS.
>Well it is possible that there is aliens
>I agree with that faggot who said that there is no alien
Which retarded nigger wrote this?
>Faster than the speed of light
>"Can't be everywhere on earth lol"
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>Hickman understood Reed far better.
So how much of his fantastic tech did Reed share with the word under Hickman?
The best part is that's not the only erroneous thing in that comic
This thread is dumb.
Also Reed never created a cure, but how would you know, you are just a shitposter.
There are people in real life who believe the earth is flat, and you think it is impossible for a dude to not believe in alien which btw usually only attack new York?
>This is also why i literally let people die from cancer
But he never created a cure.
Superman, on the other hand, is confirmed to have a cure for EVERYTHING in his fortess but he doesn't want to share.
But i guess in your head there is only space for the FF, eh, Tommy?
>Adapt with you
>Stretch with you
>Doesnt get dirty
It hurts knowing you will never have Reed onahole.tm
That's Nova dipshit, he has seen more aliens than anyone in that classroom.
He is a kid, he thinks saying he doesn't believe in aliens will make the others never find out his secret identity.
Wow current Yea Forums is so easy to bait.
>user literally cant read- the post
I do believe it's possible for those people to exist, I just don't believe it's possible that the entire class wouldn't immediately start laughing at the teacher and Sam. The teacher isn't being portrayed as crazy, he is being portrayed the same way a teacher who doesn't believe in aliens in the real world is portrayed, and the Punisher fanboy is for some reason saying "I believe that aliens are real" rather than "of course aliens are fucking real".
I mean, considering nobody gave a shit about it until he died... Yeah.