Without factoring in your feelings towards the sequels or what the MCU as a whole became, what do you think of Favreau's Iron Man? What did you think of it at the time? How do you feel about it 11 (!) years on?
Without factoring in your feelings towards the sequels or what the MCU as a whole became...
i liked it when i was a kid, and i still like it now
possibly my favourite MCU flick
It's alright. The first half of the movie is a lot more interesting than the second half, which is generic "this is the bad guy, punch the bad guy, roll credits" action movie fare.
I will never forgive the movie for not using Black Sabbath - Iron Man during the movie. It plays during the credits, transitioning from the final scene, but what a waste. It should have played as he was exiting the cave and while he was blowing up the terrorists at the beginning. Would have been PERFECT
Liked it then when I assumed it would be a standalone, still really like it now. Plus it came out at a good time; Raimi's most recent Spidey was a big letdown and the two Tim Story Fantastic Four movies sucked, so Iron Man being as good as it was made me happy.
Pretty much this. It's my favorite comic book movie, with Infinity War as only a close second. Even considering the mediocre third act, there's just something special about the chemistry everyone has, something that carried over to Iron Man 2 and was the only thing that made said sequel watchable.
Third on my top 5 MCU movies. I miss its pre-Avengers techno-industrial thriller atmosphere though. Wish there were more movies like it, and War Machine would've been perfect for that.
>American genius billionaire playboy weapons manufacturer invents power armor kills terrorists with it in 2008
Was a fun movie. The quipping was actually pretty fresh and well done, and the suits looked great. So it was, and still is, a very watchable movie.
RDJ as Tony Stark will go down as one of all the time great castings/performances. Born to play the character. I get a similar feeling for Hemsworth as Thor and Evans as Captain America. I can't imagine any other actor playing any of these characters.
Circa 1986 Dolph Lundgren would've been the most perfect fantasy casting for Thor.
was already amazed comic movies like X-Men, Spidey, etc were actually good, popular, and made compatently that I was hype even in my early 20s. Never thought I'd see Iron Man done proper on screen.
my fav part was the testing scene they released early before the movie came out that had him hovering gingerly over his car collection and fucking things up.
It was phenomenal, although you could tell it was from the days of movie tie in videogames Which I miss, by the way. With the way Tony talks about "The next mission"
Speaking of 80s Thor I always have a laugh remembering his "role" in Adventures in Babysitting
>mfw college age Elizabeth Shue is mine for the taking.
Good shit. Wish it didn't get hooks in it tho.
>when i was a kid
How old were you when you watched it
Same question to all anons
I was 16
15-16 for me
It's good and tight. The quips were pretty well handled and doesn't take away from it. It's kinda sad that they didn't learn from it. Stane is a good villain but I think his suit looked poor. I don't agree that they should've killed him. This isn't Green Goblin where we killed himself or Doc Ock where he had to sacrifice himself.
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>It's kinda sad that they didn't learn from it
lol what? put yourselves in their shoes. look how much fucking money the movies make. if you're them, what is there to "learn from"?
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The've been TOO successful. It's tragic, really.
The pinball machine is great.
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No it isn't retard. There was a time when there were no comic book movies. Now every character under the sun gets a movie. This is a beautiful time to be alive as a comic book fan. Even if you don't like the movies, they prop up the comics and cause new collections to be printed. I will NEVER complain about superhero movies
I was being sarcastic. And there have been comic book serials since before my dad was a tyke.
All this really represents is a return to the superhero's popularity in the 1940's, bypassing the comic books themselves.
>I was being sarcastic.
Oh, my bad. People complain about the movies 24/7 on this board so I couldn't tell.
And further, the comics are completely unnecessary anymore. The last original thing the comics ever did was blow up their own multiverses. That didn't stick, and it was ages ago.
Now it's just rehash after rehash. There are no more original Superman, Spider-Man, Batman or really any cape hero stories to tell.
All that's left are parodies, deconstructions, homages and re-tellings.
The suits in iron man 1 looked better than any of the avengers+ suits tony has worn
I love it. I have fond memories watching this film with my dad. This, Dances With Wolves, Tombstone, Gladiator, Periscope Down, Ramey Spider-man, and any James Bond film are how my dad and I bonded.
95% of the complaining against the MCU is really complaining about NuStar Wars.
95% of the harassment towards the DCEU is just taking the shit out of the sorts who will fawn over Zack Snyder.
I love the me a good Superhero movie. I even have some fondness for the awful ones.
I kind of liked the third act other than the killing blow. I liked seeing iron man get fucked up and throw into cars just because "BIGGER SUIT"
Don't use quips during emotional plot points. The MCU has sorta become a joke in that aspect post Ultron. Ultron himself was made into a joke with his quipping and low levels of threat. This results with a dissonance when he managed to kill QuickSilver. Some of what the MCU has done is an equivalent of making a quip during Yinsen's death. The only one where I found a joke used in an tense moment viable was in Guardians with Quill dancing as a distraction.
I feel like Stark's character being more snarky inadvertedly influenced how traditionally stoic characters are written. I also don't like their reductionist style. They've decided to limit the mythology of characters for a sake of looking grounded due to the how grounded Iron Man felt. Everything that used to be too grand or bad will rather be removed or phased out instead of being improved upon. See how they managed to kill the Warriors 3 and phased out Sif without mention from Thor since they were seen as weak in the prior films.
Yeah but this is all your personal taste. the fact that these movies are the biggest thing to ever happen to cinema would suggest that you're in the minority and the people in charge should feel nothing but the feeling of utter success
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The MCU has basically defied Box office gravity.
You have 6 multi-film franchises within it (Cpt America, Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, GotG and Avengers) and each sequel has done better than the film before (AoU is the sole exception).
That's really almost unheard of in a movie franchise. Let alone a string of a half dozen. No other Superhero trilogy has ever done it except the original X-Men (?)
Yeah it's really spectacular. and people keep talking about it like it's a bubble about to burst. I don't think so. Action movies always ruled the box office and Superheroes are PERFECT fodder for action movies. The characters are already made, there's hundreds of stories you can mine and adapt, there's a dozen aesthetics and genres within superheroes you can use, and many of them already have brand recognition. Special effects have reached the point where any story can be told.
This was the logical next step for superheroes. The movies will outlive the comics.
Quads don't lie.
The MCU films are kid-friendly, Grandparent friendly, appealing to the females, and pretty inclusive. Every other formula for cape movies literally subtracts potential audience.
Feige and company are right at the sweet spot for mass-market superhero action.
It was the end of senior year, so I was 18.
>Every other formula for cape movies literally subtracts potential audience.
Yeah. I'm kind of curious how well the Joker movie does. It doesn't really look superhero-y at all, more like some arthouse drama. It will be a test to see how strong the Joker brand is
heres a take hotter than the surface of the sun;
my whole gripe with the mcu and the characters is thatthey arent superheroes. theres more superheroing in the first 5 minutes of justice league than in the entirety of the mcu, and thats when wonder woman saved those people from being shot up. take the battle of ny. nobody decides that "hey, we should save these people" its just lol kill the monsters. if it was set in a desert nothing would change. as sci fi action movies theyre fine though.
I found it boring desu. RDJ was great, but fucking hell it was tedious otherwise and I've never felt compelled to watch it.
The Iron Man sequels are absolute garbage.
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I miss the box of scraps meme.
>theres more superheroing in the first 5 minutes of justice league than in the entirety of the mcu, and thats when wonder woman saved those people from being shot up.
Spidey does more Superheroing than Wonder Woman in Justice League. She takes out one suicide bomber, then spends the rest of the movie being entirely useless.
No really, she just keeps losing fights to everyone, she even takes a verbal beating down from that asshole Batman. Her only other memorable moment is shouting "KAL-EL!!" awkwardly.
Homecoming Parker is fighting crime through the whole damn film. Despite being unappreciated and taking threats and a dressing-down.
>KAL-EL!!
>NO!
I always burst out laughing at that shit. She's so beautiful, but can't act to save her life
>Spidey does more Superheroing than Wonder Woman in Justice League
good point.
I can always rewatch it, thus making it probably my favourite MCU flick. Hell, I kinda like all three of the Iron Man flicks. The character development of Tony Stark is such a strong and consistent draw I end up forgiving the stupid shit.
>I even have some fondness for the awful ones.
You sure do... Holy fuck dude.
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"joker brand"
seriously, kill yourself
Yes, brand is a word.
>Constantine
Peter's take is still one of my favorite portrayals of Lucifer in live-action media
I like how /m/ is butt mad that MCU Iron Man ruined power armor for them.
>they made a from hell movie
Mecha has its own board but we're stuck sharing this one with a bunch of cartoon watching pedos? Cool
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so good Marvel copied its formula for 10 years and people kept paying money for more
It's really less a problem with Iron Man proper which is well liked and more a problem with every hack ripping it off.
We all know only the most formulaic popcorn fests are allowed to succeed. The current crowds don't accept anything real tricky. Just jokes and explosions. And Joker may have both of those but it'll probably push the envelope a bit more than usual into the dramatic.
It could also just be shit though.
What superhero movie don't you have? It'd be interesting to try to collect them all if possible. Imagine trying to collect every cape show on dvd too. Bananas.
am a hardcore /m/an and can confirm. MCU Iron Man is the pinnacle of power armor portrayal in media, surpassing both Samus Aran and Master Chief as the standard to be measured against. There will never be another like him or his armor, and the character inside the armor is easily one of the most iconic in cinematic history.
RDJ's departure will be a massive blow to the overall quality of the MCU's interconnected setting. He really was the heart and soul of the overall canon. The MCU's going to be a lot more boring without him around to spice it up once in awhile.
>Master Chief
Still waiting for that Halo movie...
This could be the start of a franchise, I feel.
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I remember my brother storming into my room telling me he just saw the coolest movie.
So how big was ironman prior to this movie?
I am sure he wasn't a literal who, but he wasn't the A-lister marvel posterboy he is now?
Also how was tony before the MCU, I am sure the comics changed him to be more inline with his MCU counterpart right?
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He wasn't a heavy hitting A-lister like Batman or Spidey by any means, but he wasn't some literal who like some people will have you believe.
It's also worthy noting that a lot of people who grew up in the 90s but didn't necessarily read comics knew him from the Spider-Man cartoon and Marvel vs Capcom.
Also a lot of people associate him with the Black Sabbath song, which is a pretty well known song.
Solid movie.
I knew and liked Ironman because he had his own cartoon and toyline in the 90s
I was a casual 12 year old at the time this came out, and I remember not knowing any major Marvel heroes aside from Spider-Man, the Hulk and the X-men. Even if I was just insanely ignorant, I wouldn't put Iron Man anywhere near B-List in terms of general knowledge. Regardless, that movie put Tony on the map, and every subsequent film only pushed him higher.
The right actors at the right time who wrote theyr own script for a 200 million student movie.
It's hard to gauge because it's one of those movies for me that when I break it down, I know it's just mediocre. But it did so much right that I keep putting it back in my top 10 (which is filled with shit like Incendies and The Fisher King).
It's just so goddamn entertaining. RDJ's charisma is literally untouchable in this movie, he is so fucking likable. The Iron Man parts are perfect. It's just such a shame that the villain and the last fight is so mediocre.
I find it hilarious that Jon Favreau originally intended Iron Man to be more grounded, realistic, and within the realm of possibility. Now look at it, Tony is using "Nanomachines, Son" with his do-anything-nano-Suit that he literally controls by though alone. It's pretty much magic at this point.
Magic is technology in the MCU tho
Tony Stark is a super genius with unlimited time and funds to build anything and they gotta keep making something new for audiences to see when Ironman is in any MCU movie. I do like that there is a evolution of his suits from the original that he couldn't even put on without help
Probably won't do as well. I have friends who changed their mind about wanting to watch it after seeing how "serious" the trailer was.
He's a super-genius who has had at least half a decade of reverse engineering alien tech thousands of years ahead of earth. The only surprising thing at the point is that he even needs to wear a suit anymore.
Funny thing is, they actually had scenes of Cap and shiet helping evacs and stuff in the first Avengers film, but they weren't included in the theatrical release for whatever reason(it was longer than they felt safe it was?). You can look up Avengers 1 deleted scenes to know what I'm talking about.
Iron Man 3 was basically that
The trailer didn't do anything for me either. I won't judge it before seeing it, but I certainly won't gamble the 15 dollars by watching it in theatres.
Weak as fuck villain, but Iron Man didn't really have good villains anyway. Otherwise it's a great movie.
Tony Stark would be too OP if he started going full Extremis mode, to the point that he and his suit are one. Even Marvel tone down the Extremis virus once they realized that there's no way to go up from there and advance it. I mean, the only suit I can think of that could compete and as advanced was the Endo-Sym Armor. And that suit was ridiculous. A combination of liquid smart-metal and the alien Venom symbiote with none of the weaknesses that avoided EMPs because it was psionically controlled? Psychic. One of Tony's downright supernatural suits that wasn't at all technological or mechanical just to match Extremis.
>IM3 tones down Extremis and Toy heals the hole in his chest
>Infinity War Tony has jammed more shit in his chest and is basically Extremis mode, controlling the suit through his mind without FRIDAY and still getting Thanos to bleed
He can only get further by becoming full Ultimates Tony and becoming an incorporeal AI transhuman.
>reverse engineering alien tech thousands of years ahead of earth
While technically available to him, there's no information that implies that Tony even glanced at Chitauri or Dark Elf tech. Far as the MCU is concerned, everything is of his own invention supplemented by the prior work of his father.
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It's good. But it's not the masterpiece Yea Forums thinks it is
classic movie
should've been the start to a real Ultimates movie
I really enjoyed it. Thought the sequels were nowhere near as good.
Probably will do good
I recently rewatched it desu. Nothing changed, it's still a solid movie except for the second half, I like Cap's first movie just a bit more because of the aesthetics and very clever first half.
I think it's understated how much Iron Man's second half and villain suck. I guess it's excusable because it was the first one, but in retrospect it has the exact same flaws as other Phase 1 movies. Except for Iron Man 2 which is probably worse than even Thor.
Best looking MCU movie CGI-wise
Not my favorite but a good starting point.
Aged like wine honestly.
Nolan's Batman trilogy did it too. Each of the three movies made more money than the last.
The last act is absolute garbage, but it's still my favorite MCU flick. The quips were fitting, it had good cast chemistry, and I liked the grounded, relatively plausible atmosphere of it.
I remember being positively surprised as it came after four years of no-good Marvel movies. The last good one being Spider-Man 2 from 2004.
At the time, it wasn't really treated any differently from any other 2000s superhero origin films, as it wasn't any different from those, structurally speaking.
And I remember getting excited over the Nick Fury "We're putting a team together." cameo, and thinking "Man, they're never gonna be able to pull off Avengers on screen!" Whew, was I wrong.
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He seems to be missing at least Darkman II and III, Doctor Mordrid (the 90s Doc Strange movie), new Turtles movies, lots of non-American movies.
Fucking this.
Also had a killer fucking soundtrack and I'm mad that they never bought Iron Man's leitmotif back from this movie and sprinkled it in throughout all his appearances in the MCU. Would've been very nice to hear this at some point in Avengers 1 for example.
Doctor Mordrid is pretty good, I actually probably like it better than the actual Doctor Strange movie we ended up getting.
It's a bit of a shame in a way that superhero movies have become these consistently huge blockbusters in the last 15-20 years, since they're well suited to the B-movie format. Stuff like the Roger Corman Fantastic Four and the Generation X telemovie were very charming.
The tech porn was amazing. I still get a boner when he dons the armor.
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15. Saw it in and Incredible Hulk while on a trip to New York City with my dad.
It's ironic how the Corman FF is still the best movie of the comic we've gotten.
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More of people think of iron man when you mention 'power armor' rather than one of their prefered Japanese designs.
>MCU Iron Man is the pinnacle of power armor portrayal in media
I actually do agree with that. Best power armor of all fucking time.
>surpassing both Samus Aran
Second favorite of all time. I hope that in the next game or even in a movie, they really do the Varia Suit justice and make it even better than it's always been by making the proportions make more anatomic sense but without making the suit look like shit.
>It should have played as he was exiting the cave and while he was blowing up the terrorists at the beginning. Would have been PERFECT
Fuck no. Please enough of this shit. I thought Immigrant was beyond cringe in Ragnarok.
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Because you're biased and nostalgic.
Because they reuse the same formula. What worked before, they stick with it. Plug-in-play, and you're good to go.
I wonder what that girl would think about the MCU.
Not him but I do think in 20-30 years, their performances are going to be considered iconic and if they're still making superhero movies by then, whoever's going to play those roles is probably going to have some very big shoes to fill. Possibly Chadwick Boseman as T'challa as well.
>and if they're still making superhero movies by then
iron man was b to c tier at best before the movie
I can't fucking help it, user. All the negativity here is getting to me.
You need to take the Sour Grapes of DCkeks and make wine of it. A salty vintage, but still delightful.
>what do you think of Favreau's Iron Man? What did you think of it at the time? How do you feel about it 11 (!) years on
I loved it then and I still love it now. It and the rest of the trilogy are my go-to comfort movie(s) when I'm not in a great mental spot. I only wish Favreau had been able to direct all of them.
He was a solid B-lister with his own decades old solo book, a few game appearances and a cartoon under his belt.
>Also how was tony before the MCU
In terms of personality? A lot more reserved. Don't believe the idiots that say he never quipped pre-MCU because he did. Just the MCU dialed that aspect of his character up to 11.
>I am sure the comics changed him to be more inline with his MCU counterpart right?
Definitely. And it's terrible most of the time because writers are just completely incapable of capturing the charisma and charm that RDJ exudes so most of his dialogue is cringy. Just look at Aaron's Tony in his current Avengers book.
I thought this was a "WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN" thread and I got excited. We really need one more of those before Endgame.
I was 8
12.
There are middle-schoolers who are younger than this movie.
I've limited myself to theatrically released Blu Rays for now.
Theatrically, I'm missing Son of the Mask, Steel, Blankman (none of which are on Blu Ray)
I tend to avoid direct-to-video and DVDs.
It came out in 2008, right? I was 9.
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Oh fug, they have the "Darkman Trilogy" on blu ray for 13 buckareenos.
Amazon'd it.
Imagine having taste this boring.
Not even shit, just boring
Surprisingly enough, it was the first movie I seen in cinema when I was 11-12 (mostly cause we got cinemas with western movies a lot later then other countries) and I seen it with my family and I remember being blown away by it. I knew very little about him outside of the occasional cameo in comics and his 90s cartoon, but the movie really cemented him as a force to be reckoned with and he quickly became one of my faves.
Hell, I ended up having my dad buy me an overpriced action figure of the guy (with which I played with for two weeks and cemented the idea for me that I moved on from playing with action figures).