Why is he so strong even though he is just a fat guy with no super human enhancements whatsoever?

He nearly broke Spidey's spine in Spider-Man TAS and that was long before Netflix.

>even though he is just a fat guy with no super human enhancements whatsoever
Is he?
This is a different universe.

Mafia leaders are a common villain Trope Kingpin just takes it to the extreme being the biggest beater possible

I always imagined Kingpin to be like what if Andre the Giant trained to be an olympic powerlifter. So he's "above peak human", if peak human is an olympic power lifter without gigantism.

He was a physical threat to street level supers since the Silver age.

He's a level 100 boss

F=M*A

He's big.

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Considering he's over 300lbs of muscle it's not that hard to imagine. Not sure how it didn't prevent him from getting raped though.

He's mostly muscle combined with constantly being underestimated by supers because:

1. He's looks Fat
2. He's 'just' human

It's probably more effective than you would think.

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TAS Spiderman was a fucking jobber who literally did not know how to throw a punch.

No one knew how to throw a punch in that show, user! It would've traumatised the kids!

He is a large fellow.

>"Supers underestimate him, that's why he surprises them with his speed and strength!"

Okay, fine, but when the initial surprise wears off, that shit shouldn't matter anymore, and every subsequent encounter means that anyone even mildly superpowered would know what to expect and immediately kick his ass. The fucker has a file a mile long, no super should be unaware of what he is capable of physically.

Spider-Man, Spider-Man, punch you right in your fucking face

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>not crawler assault
meh

He is unreasonably strong for a regular human but people buy it in the same way batman can bench press 1k. The standards of a “fit human” in comics.

It's a constant arrogance thing? After tussling with Kingpin Supers go on to fight universe ending threats. Then Kingpin shows back up and that underestimation kicks in again. "He's just a gangster"

Human? Dude is almost 9 feet tall and can weight cars without effort, he's pretty much a mutant or a enhanced human like Juggernaut or the Ox.

It's been established that he's unusually fast and strong for someone of his build, but the point is that anyone that fought him before or knows anyone else that fought him should have no problem dealing with him since his element of surprise speed and strength should be expected. Instead, they have to keep belaboring the "omfg he is actually not fat, and is unusually strong and fast!" for readers to buy that he's still a physical threat when logically, he should only be a threat to the very low end of the super community, and newbies to the game.

The same reason that Captain America can fight monsters and supers and vampires who are moving so fast that normal human beings look like they're standing still: writers don't care about power levels or consistency.

Spider-man is around 70-100 times stronger than the world's strongest weightlifter, with plenty of feats that put him even higher than that.

With that kind of strength, the punch from someone like Captain America should feel like it's coming from a toddler. Kingpin trying to overpower him would be like wrestling with a small child.

But this doesn't make visual sense and doesn't make for "good" storytelling. You want Spider-man to be able to lift up a dozen tons, but you also want him to struggle a bit with some mooks. Because writers want it both ways, the relative strength is just not going to be consistent at all.

Look at how wide his shoulders are compared to his torso, the chap is built like a brick wall. Way more muscle than fat there.

Was getting caught part of your plan ?

He dirty-bulked until he made it, just like Zyzz wanted

But then he used his power irresponsibly

wow, what a well thought out and correct answer
faggot

look at him. He's fucking gigantic.

that would be an awesome storyline if Kingpin turned out to be a mutant.

Marvel should do that.

Pay me Disney bux naow.

He's fucking huge

for you

And yet in the latest comic, Kingpin was turned into a sex slave of a shitty Dark Elf.

There's no indication in SpiderVerse that he's not superhuman.
Alternate universes son.

He drinks his milk and eats his spinach

Is this autism? Dramatic tension you retard.
I can't believe there are actually people who still think powerlevels are actually what drives cape fights.

Literally this. Spiderverse answers itself. Green Goblin was different too.

>what if Andre the Giant trained to be an olympic powerlifter.
Andre couldn't become a powerlifter because his bones were as brittle as regular human bones but far too big to support his own weight. You always see it with world's tallest people, sooner or later they all go on crutches. That's why there are no mythological giants around, unless their skeletons were made of a material stronger than bone they'd collapse in on themselves.

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Not fat; MUSCLE.

He's not just strong, he's also a vicious and skilled fighter. Fighting ability counts for a lot in Marvel. Knowing how & when to dodge, block, strike, where to strike -- it allows guys like Fisk, Cap and DD hold their own and even defeat dudes out of their weight class.

Yeah right. In real life 3% would look like this and you can't sustain it for long or you'll die.

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>I demand selective realism in my cape comics

Did he also train in power walking?

WHAT

that was in Punisher MAX, and all of the MAX series are technically a different universe from 616. Different Kingpin, different Bullseye, etcetera

He's made to look fat so spiderman can crack jokes at fat people forever

He's a mix between Andre and pic related. Bloatmaxx with a touch of giantism.

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FAT FROM THE FAT DIMENSION

sumo power

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God that manga is so disgusting, it's like a muscle fetish fag sold hist private collection and everyone eat it up.

SOURCE

You see when I was a boy....

Honestly, Kingpin's physical strength ought to only be used super sparingly. Like, have his goons do all the heavy lifting, and then have him snap the hero's leg like a fucking twig when he's in mid monologue. If he ever has to fight someone hand to hand, he should be aware of how fucked he is amd use his durability to make the public thing the hero went too far.

He works out a lot.

That being said, I still think that Kingpin is a low key mutant.
He's ALWAYS been a physical threat to supers.

america's strongest looks like he can't move his neck and second generation looks like his entire body is made of diapers

He's fat gangster batman

Yeah and Spider Man can throw a fucking car.

Because character design.

He's not just a "fat guy", he's the very personification of violence and evil and how strong those are.

but user, there are other giant mammals around who don't have that problem, there were even giant apes that only went extinct not taht long ago.

>you also want him to struggle with mooks
Who the fuck wants spiderman to struggle with mooks?
Ah, yes, lazy writers who can't write a plot otherwise.
Fuck em.

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well he can

Pinhead can throw a car?
>doubt.jpeg

I always assumed all the versions of the Kingpin he's just genetically gifted. But not at the level of superhuman strength.

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A Dark Elf? What?

IT's canon that he's a bloody mutie..

That's what I like about King Pin. He's not just a fat guy with super intelligence and a criminal mastermind. He's also intensely strong and a master martial artist. Makes him much more interesting threat.

exactly, thank you

you should see what happens to the black dude

I dunno about a car, but the guy is still insanely strong. Look at that staircase.
He's substantially stronger than Captain America at any level.

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Wales die on land because their weight is no longer supported by their home medium. Apes walk on all fours.

>So he's "above peak human",
and Spidey is several times that but still a twink who gets fucked by Kingpin. the way kingpin is portrayed its like he could rival Thing

>Spidey is several times that
Is super strength the same as super durability? Would Spidey being able to punch the jaw off a mugger actually making him immune to having his back snapped by Fisk?

>america's strongest looks like he can't move his neck
Funny you should say that considering his neck has been proven to be thick enough that attacks on it flat out don't work.

Spider-Man holds back so he doesn't kill Fisk in a single blow. Kingpin is around Captain America level in terms of strength.

The only time that was made painfully clear was in Black in Black.

No, if you go for pure lifting strength. You look fat as shit. You ever see the strongest man competition? Those guys look fat, but are a ton of muscle.

for you

Aww, i found out about this by reading the Seanbaby superquiz a long time ago.

The quiz is still up but all the image links are broken so it doesnt show the panel where Kingpin is threating Cyclops, lol.