Ava DuVernay’s New Gods movie

I know I shouldn’t be looking forward to this DC project given Ava DuVernay butchering of A Wrinkle In Time, so why would she do so much better with another science-fantasy project? But Some part of me still hopes that she can get that Kirby Space-gods feel and aesthetic right in a way Snyder and Whedon didn’t even try to. Maybe the fact that she came to DC with the project is a good sign.

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I'm just happy they got a director with vision to do it and not some random hack

Exactly...but what if that vision ends up being horribly stupid?

Yeah, like AWIT. Is she the person to hand this kinda thing to?

I mean say what you will about Wrinkle but it was visually amazing

You mean like the unseen Josh Trank cut of Fantastic Four?

I'd at least like to see it before I see a Hollywood jobber cut.

Darkseid is basically just space-nixon so I don't necessarily mind that someone with a not-so-subtle political touch would try to adapt New Gods.
My issue is that the leftishness of Wrinkle in Time is of the Clinton-era girlboss variety rather than the Old and New left movements on the 60s and 70s which informed Kirby's work.

If Darkseid is treated analogous to Trump it will come off to me as a fundamental misreading, not because Trump is good, but because Darkseid embodies the subtle but pervasive ways in which power had come to enforce itself post WWII, and Trump is anything but subtle. If anything he would be analagous to Kirby's depiction of Steppenwolf.

What was it even about, trailers gave me nothing

I just hope she's not forced to follow the aesthetic of New Gods in the DCEU up to this point.

interesting failure > boring success

What if it's a boring failure? DuVernay had success in original, lower key projects, not big budget stuff. Few people called AWIT "interesting" and word of mouth affected box office

you empircally have shit taste
it looked cheap
and used tryhard arty camera angles and fisheye lens shit
atrocious looking in everyway, first year film student tier

Darkseid is going to be called racist screencap it now

Some black grrrl fantasy

I like Ava, and I'm hoping to God this is another one of DC's projects that falls apart before it gets off the ground.

AWIT was a directing mess only saved by the visuals. Selma was also horribly directed.

Completely agree although it didn't help Snyder and they changed their mind about Ayer

>imagining neo-Yea Forums's reaction to a black woman adapting Kirby's politics

Just kill me

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Yes, an an interesting failure is also better than a box office extravaganza that is a terribly off and uninspired adaptation (Bay's Transformers or Singer's X-Men).

After loving Aquaman and Shazam when I expected both to be shit, I'm ready to believe in this.

Not in BoP though, I'm not quite that delusional.

He would be racist but disproportionate focus will be placed on it. A modern embodiment of Darkseid would use tactics like a modern media empire. Race baiting, shame tactics, politically correct group think, using fear to control what can be said.

He wouldn't be racist so much as everyone other than himself is inferior in his eyes, including his family.

feminist new gods

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Ok but Darkseid used Glorious Godfrey and people like Godfrey are still around still incredibly popular on the American right.

>Selma was also horribly directed.
In what way? I thought it was a great movie.

Even the trailers gave me a headache.
A middle aged black woman in dreadlocks will NEVER, NEVER EVER, make KINO sci-fi, fantasy, or capeshit.
Disney dodged the hugest bullet firing her from Black Panther.

It's becoming pretty clear that alt-right is a mental illness

Yeah but no one has any hang-ups about criticizing right wing speakers. It's like the "Fox News bad" thing, that's a media narrative that sort of deflects from how shitty and misleading most of them are. Weinsteins actions where known about but no said anything out of greed and fear but to public he portrayed himself as an extremely vocal feminist and supporter of left wing causes, I mean when he was found out he thought he could earn forgiveness by going "NRA bad"

I think people have this idea of worrying about villains being cool, more than the idea of actually being villains. I mean you Loki who casually murdered innocent people and is so easily forgiven but saying the nigger is this unforgivable sin. Of course he would be racist, it's a method of control.

That poster is Islamic you racist cunt.

Right wing hate mongers have always existed and they've always been criticized. They are just as powerful today as they were when Kirby wrote New Gods.

Good larping, like I said, "progressive" politics today is thee method of control in the west.

I for one look.forward to having another great property transformed into POC female empowerment propaganda instead of being aimed at the author's intended audience: everyone.

Maybe POC females should learn to create their own things. Or learn to code.

I just want Orion to be treated right for once.

I want this movie to be so fucking good so badly and while I do have faith in DuVernay, AWIT wasn't good (or so I heard anyway) and I do have some fears about her making it too BLACK GURL POWAH. Like said, when you think about it, there's a lot of politics in New Gods, especially when it comes to Apokalips, so getting a director who knows how to work convincing and well-written politics into her movies is actually a great idea. And thanks to AWIT, she DOES have some experience with big CGI movies. Ava has to hit the right balance between capturing the gritty, realistic fascistic cult of personality Darkseid has on Apokalips and the Cold War between that and New Genesis, while delivering CGI spectacle. I hope they go full Kirby with the visuals too. I want to see live-action Kirby dots ffs.

My worries are the above or because of Star Wars and GotG, people are going to think DC is ripping those off with this movie when New Gods always came first. Like said, I want Orion to be treated right but I'm worried that with his relationship with the bad guy and his evil brother, people are going to think he's a Luke Skywalker clone or Rule 63 Gamora when that's not really the case.

>Of course he would be racist, it's a method of control.
Using it as a method of control isn't the same thing as being racist himself though. Someone can be an asshole to a black person just because that someone is an asshole.

What I’ve heard is that her movie won’t even necessarily be set in the DCEU. Make of that what you will.

why would they anchor their characters to a status quo that isn't felt by people anymore

Yeah so /use godfrey/.

That is literally all the sane people are asking. Use the right evil god for the job.

Just wait for Marvel's Eternals movie