Wherein our hero goes to the disco
Spider-Man: Life Story #2 storytime
Alexander Watson
Nathan Harris
Nicholas Barnes
Matthew Jenkins
Zachary Bennett
Andrew Moore
Nathaniel Nelson
Andrew Nelson
Daniel Evans
Thomas Sullivan
Chase Bell
Nathaniel Edwards
Nathaniel Martinez
Brayden Anderson
Grayson Rivera
Evan Flores
Brandon Rogers
Lucas Rodriguez
Gavin Hill
Carter Howard
>it just starts like that
Didn't expect it
James Sullivan
Kevin Taylor
Brayden Jenkins
Jonathan Sanders
Landon Jones
Grayson Wilson
Owen Gray
Oh god my tommy senses are tingling
Kayden Allen
Justin Perry
Ayden Ramirez
Lucas Bell
Jason Fisher
I forgot ghis was out
Can ypu do issue one also?
Julian Parker
I guess this is a nod to the time Mr Fantastic took Ock from jail to help him deliver the kid they lost? Maybe they succeeded?
Hudson Johnson
Sebastian Nguyen
What the actual FUCK
Jordan Powell
Anthony Lopez
holy shit chip
Alexander Butler
Easton Ortiz
Lincoln Myers
Adrian Gray
K
Benjamin Torres
Gabriel Thomas
Juan Foster
Oliver Carter
Easton Anderson
Leo Foster
that's the worst slap I've seen in a comic with Hank Pym on it
Robert Rogers
Mason Hill
Hudson Clark
Nice they actually upgraded his suit. I wonder if they keep upgrading it later on.
Luis Scott
Sue Storm, always the cheating wife.
William Murphy
Connor White
Anthony Campbell
Isaiah Richardson
Zachary Gutierrez
Jaxson King
Jeremiah Turner
Jayden Brooks
Jose Cruz
Dominic Thompson
Eli Bennett
Jason Foster
Joseph Collins
Colton James
Caleb Brooks
Julian Davis
Elijah Powell
Nathaniel Bennett
What a slut.
Luis Gonzalez
>"Why me?"
OHNONONO
Austin Brooks
Ryan Cooper
Aiden Parker
Angel Diaz
Cameron Martinez
Evan Flores
Grayson Richardson
Easton Young
Oh wow
Daniel Clark
Samuel Stewart
We might as well pack it up, boys. Chip can't get any better than this. 10/10 will go pick up a physical copy.
Asher Gomez
This is nice.
Bentley Garcia
Man, this is so good wtf?
Pete looking quite manlet over here.
William Garcia
Dead Eugene "Based" Flash=shit AU
Eli Gonzalez
>that coloring
Thanks doc
Gabriel Scott
Jesus Christ this was depressing... I love it
Jaxon Price
This is great, I miss this kind of raw energy from MJ, people are way too sensetive to her getting angry at Peter, but sometimes he deserves these sorts of tellings off from the woman who knows him best...and Chip came up with a much better explanation for why MJ knows than just peering out the window
Isaiah Wright
uh
Jackson Lewis
And with this, Chip has cemented himself as the best modern spidey writer since early 2000s Bendis. We finally see how he tackles Peter and MJ here and he addresses their highs and lows in a way that nails their characters perfectly.
Nolan Richardson
I love how even Harry is shocked.
Lincoln Stewart
Jesus Christ
James Perez
So I guess we will be seeing Scarlet Spider in this series after all.
Michael Bennett
It's because it often comes off as really detached and self-centered when MJ blows up at Pete. Like, he'll have just gotten off from a scene where he's risked his neck to save a pre-schooler from falling off a bridge or something and you go right into MJ chewing out Peter for not having enough time for their personal life, and it's just like, really?
It's not necessarily a bad dynamic for MJ to be the one to chew out Pete when he needs to get chewed out, but I feel like it's poorly utilized often enough that a lot of people have gotten this perception of the character, that she's an unreasonable nag.
Aiden Sullivan
fffffff
Goddamn this is all good. It feels much more impactful when you know there aren't gonna be any do-overs. And man, considering how intense all of this already is is gonna be insane.
Anthony Davis
Chip really does love the 90s animated series doesn't he? This twist is right out of that, only with Gwen
Andrew Taylor
High heels, son, you ever hear of them?
Adam Wood
I agree with you, it's best used in moderation for when Peter is being a social outcast than as a superhero, as it shows MJ is trying to get him to loosen and open up to his friends when he can't be Spidey
Lucas Cook
I hope this Last Hunt will be with Symbiote suit Spider-Man.
Sebastian Rodriguez
lol, fucking warren
Blake Myers
Holy crap, these were awesome. Ill have to pick them up
Levi Thompson
Top kino
Landon Evans
Fuuuuck, that ain't a good look Harry.
Landon White
Yep,this shit is good. soo good. A spider-man who struggles because he is just a man,who can't take two lifes separate. Not because he is dumbass manchild
Gavin Peterson
I preferred norman killed gwen then died instead of this
Luis Lopez
Damn Harry, now THAT'S a fucking look right there.
Cameron Hernandez
If it's the clone Peter married and loved, he shoudl stay with her.
Seems like a cheap way to remove her in order to put Peter with Inferior Peg Bundy.
Justin Miller
Peter fighting with Reed was pretty sad too.
Both good guys. Sure, he's a dick sometimes but he didn't deserve to get cucked and I'm sure he considered Pete a friend.
Hopefully there will be nice scene between the 2 on this universe's secret wars
Jaxon Morris
Dude, it's EXACTLY what it looks like, you absolute creep.
Ian Russell
It was a little poorly explained/too rushed, but he definitely switched bodies after they married/were already a couple.
Still a little forced I guess.
Samuel Adams
think we're getting some Hobgoblin action next issue?
Chase Clark
Well, we'll be hitting the 90s with Issue 4, and the two major Spider-man things of the 90s were Clone Saga 2 and Maximum Carnage.
Carson Wright
Oh yeah 90s are gonna be wild considering Peter will be past his prime and hitting that middle age mark.
Oliver Jones
So this issue was Death of Gwen Stacy + Clone Saga 1. Next issue will be Secret Wars + Kraven's Last Hunt. 90s will probably be Maximum Carnage + Clone Saga 2. But what will 00s and 10s be? Probably Totems for 00s since that was already teased and Spider-verse + "passing on the mantle to Miles" in the 10s?
Bentley Bailey
It's unfuckingbelievable how good Chip is at writing drama and so bad at writing comedy, yet 90% of his comics are comedy. Whoever told him he was funny did the comics industry a massive disservice. Imagine getting this level of quality years ago?
Julian Hill
OMD
Grayson Butler
>old man peter vs newblood 90's edge
kino
Dominic Davis
Weird how the same guy who wrote those solid 2 issues so far also wrote shit like this
Julian Howard
Yikes, this felt like a Lifetime movie. Thank you OP for this. You're definitely a hero I will always remember.
Josiah Reyes
I don’t get it, so he left the clone version of Gwen who he married, spent his time with, and let his own clone take her?
Seems kind of dumb imo.
Chase Perez
And offensive shit like this
Caleb Allen
>60s normal suit
>70s slightly armored suit
>80s symbiote/black suit
Any guesses on what Peter will be wearing in the future? I honestly wanna say Last Stand suit will be one of them.
Parker Ortiz
>peg bundy
Go home Slot, your day is over
Tyler Rodriguez
Oh shoot. I coincidentally picked the perfect day to see when this came out.
Michael Clark
He didn't marry the clone. Warren left the uni, gwen married peter and then she went to work with her old professor, who then cloned her and switched bodies
Jaxon Brown
>sees Harry for the first time in a while
>the first thing he does is insult him
Classic Norman.
Xavier Adams
I figure the 00's will probably be Horizon labs or School teacher Pete and covering the Totem stuff for both Morlun and Shathra in one go.
Nicholas Gomez
Both osborns still alive
Brayden Roberts
Old Peter wont survive that
Nolan Myers
Shathra a cute.
Jace Brooks
He will but just barely which leads him to retire till the 10s where he meets Miles.
Andrew Morgan
>where he meets Miles
Fuck you.
Jack Rivera
Disco is pretty scary, desu.
Luke Green
I think the big problem was that he had Fraction to bounce off of which for a while Sex Criminals was a critically acclaimed comedy book. His solo work like Kaptara which was basically "He-man was really gay guys, isn't that funny?" and for a while ironic stories were in vogue so he was trying to do what was selling well at the time, or at least was critically acclaimed by certain people. Sometimes it takes an outsider to be really good at something. Most guys who write drama sometimes do funny really well.
Nathan Wood
guarantee he's gonna meet Uncle Bens ghost
Anthony Ross
What the fuck, MJ?
Hudson Foster
suit is pretty ugly but it's still a good idea to have him upgrade it
Henry Howard
Seems kinda fan fictionish. Still interested.
Luke Morris
user, there is no version of this story that doesn't end with Miles taking over as Spider-man in the last issue. Peter will be ~70 years old in the last issue.
Thomas James
A slap? Not a punch?
Wyatt Cook
>hey MJ, how are you and Harry holding up?
>wtf peter I’m so tired of you fake ass preacher talk bullshit, t’s your fault Flash is dead
Grayson Young
>Black Goblin
Harry's never gonna be Green again, huh? Still, that's a pretty snazzy look.
Matthew Ward
>Miles taking over as Spider-man in the last issue
Fuck you.
Blake Young
Horizon labs is 10s
00s will be the jms stuff + 9/11 +civil war and maybe back in black, if peter starts wearing the jms last stand costume all the way to the end of the series i will love chip forever
William Perez
MJ's drunk, Peter even says that in the next page
Easton Cooper
>everyone reacts in horror to the Clone Saga
kek
Brayden Scott
Sorry, meant to say same page
Maybe I'm drunk
Isaac Perry
The sooner you accept that's how marvel wants thing to be, the better.
What, you want peter to pass the torch to his daughter or something? Hah
Oliver Martin
Aw gross. I saw he was getting a little handsy earlier, but I thought I was reading too much into it.
Justin Thompson
It’s even stranger because his Howard run was actually pretty solid. Still, I really hope he writes a serious non-big two book in the future.
Jordan Gonzalez
>Harry destroys the Clone Saga
Liam Johnson
Idk, MJ still seemed peeved and was willing to vent about it to Harry when she had coffee
Andrew Ward
What the fuck, man?
Jaxson Nelson
Harry really is the hero we don't deserve.
Jeremiah Richardson
Solid read, really enjoying this so far. Also I don't know if it's the coloring but bagely seems in top form here so that's nice.
William Thomas
So was this reverse clone saga where the Peter and Gwen in the tanks were the originals but the ones outside were the clones?
Eli Miller
No the Gwen in the tank was the real one while the Peter in the tank was the clone.
Levi Gutierrez
I reacted the same way. It really didn't make any sense that it happened like that
Honestly I'm dissapointed
Austin Russell
This artist drawn like 4 separated clone saga stories
Eli Green
Looking kind of Insomniac there Pete.
Chase Butler
He had to remove his facade of "haha isn't this so funny do you like me guys"
When he did the Jonah issue, which was probably the first time he was earnestly writing something and taking a chance putting himself out there and it got acclaim it almost transformed him overnight
Jackson Myers
No, the Peter in the tank is the clone, the clone Gwen replaced Gwen at some undetermined point, probably long after Real Gwen and Peter married.
Camden Rogers
It's not even a "how marvel wants things to be." If you're doing a Generations for Spider-man, which this is, that's the logical narrative conclusion to the story. What are the most important things to happen in the Spider-man mythos for the '10s? The introduction of Miles, Spider-verse, Superior Spider-man, and Parker Industries. Superior Spider-man doesn't work because by that time Ock will already be dead from old age, and there's no reason for Ock to transfer his mind into a 70 year old Peter anyways.
So what you're left with is Miles, Spider-verse, and Parker Industries. The logical conclusion then is to have Parker retiring from superheroing while running Parker Industries, has his big team-up with the spiders of other universes, and then decides that his world still needs a Spider-man and passes the mantle onto Miles.
If May survives the 90s or OMD doesn't happen in the 00s then you can also have Mayday/Anime as Spider-girl, too, but you can't do a comic that hits the most important beats of the '10s while pretending that Miles doesn't exist.
Cooper Price
You're half right.
Luke Bailey
It's definitely after she actually went to work for him and it would have probably been some time after that considering funding and what have you
I'm thinking a year tops
Matthew Watson
Problem is we don't know exactly when the switch happened.
Isaiah Lee
More of this stylish Goblin please.
I never want to go back.
Ryan Clark
So how come Marvel decided to do this story anyway?
Luke Sanders
Huh, that makes sense.
Jack Adams
Zdarsky probably elevator pitched them after he got turned down for Amazing
Cooper Miller
Norman would hate it.
Cameron Gutierrez
Haha.
Fuck man. Straight up jinkies right there.
Caleb Gutierrez
>>Still a little forced
As painful as it was for me to see Gwen die yet again...I think it was a clever reveal. I would've preferred live Gwen...
Aiden Jackson
Peter wont let osborns get away with it
Landon Harris
PETER STOP
Gavin Roberts
This just confirms what I've always thought. Capeshit's biggest flaw is that time isn't allowed to advance.
Julian Ortiz
Cause it’s a relatively interesting elseworlds. Why shouldn’t they let Chip tell it?
William Clark
>clone saga only appears for a few pages and already makes the story more confusing than it needs to be
Ian Myers
>you want peter to pass the torch to his daughter or something?
Yes. Fuck you.
Matthew Roberts
>cucked by your own clone
Andrew Bell
I foresaw this comment the moment this book was solicited. You know this is probably going to spawn a number of knock off “capeshit in real time” books from the big two as it’s quite successful.
There’s plenty on non big two capes that integrate that into their premise? Right?
Andrew Moore
Nobody remembers MC2, don't make this any harder than it has to be.
Nolan Robinson
Yeah, the impression I get is he's hitting major points in the history but deliberately not adhering to the original years (like for instance the Death of Gwen/Norman happened in the early 70's and the Peter and Gwen clones showed up in 1975.
I'm guessing Mary Jane and Peter could be married by the 80's issue. The solicits say he has a family in the 90's.
Adam Morris
>clone saga only appears for a few pages
H a
Ha
H a
Gabriel Nelson
Mayday doesn't exist anymore. Editorial doesn't want Peter to settle down. And if they're going by the outline she's going to get OMD'd in this series if Pete and MJ stay together long enough to have a child.
Luis Watson
She also said she'd talk to Peter later about it, so she was calming down and wanted to make peace with him
Levi Anderson
They did say they have plans for a few more Life Story comics.
Elijah Jenkins
I mean, Clone Saga 1 really wasn't that confusing. It's Clone Saga 2 that was a complete fucking mess. So, y'know, look forward to issue 4 when Chip has to condense all of Clone Saga 2 into 1 issue.
Michael Young
Mayday never existed in 616 you fag. She was a literal stillborn due to editorial.
Nothing is new. Nothing is ever new.
Connor Williams
Shut yer fucking trap
Carter Rogers
>he doesn't know
I can't wait for issue 4 when Miles reveals that the Peter in the tube was actually the real Peter all along and this one is the clone, and then the issue ends with the reveal that that was all Osborn fucking with him the whole time.
I hope Judas Traveler shows up for a single panel just to say some cryptic shit.
Michael Rogers
Who's talking about Mayday? This isn't the MC2 universe, just make another random daughter and call it a day. I'm sick and tired of the Miles parasite being shoved into every Peter story.
Jose Morris
I wonder if Gwen and the Norman clone are actually dead or not.
Adrian Murphy
>Nobody remembers MC2
Yes we do.
William Brown
Everyone who counts doesn't.
Adam Williams
Maybe peter's kid in this not interested to follow his step
Peter know he is not clone
Mason Campbell
>editorial doesn't want peter to settle down
So explain why Slott ressurected MC2 Peter and let RYV Peter and MJ live in spidergedoon?
Ian Wright
>more life story books come out
>”fuck, this is what all capeshit should be, fucking solid, non-malleable storytelling”
>even more life story books come out
>”fuck this, it’s ruining the basic premise of these characters, try-hard garbage that wants so desperately to be seen as ‘real storytelling’”
If capeshitters didn’t behave the way they do, nobody would hate them.
Cameron Parker
Every true fan doesn't count 616/mephistoverse faggot.
Grayson Sanchez
These Osborns not hate him enough to do thT
Juan Powell
THIS WAS GOOD
Austin Sanchez
Miles and/or May. I hope there's May at some point.
Lucas Sanchez
2 'what-if' stories?
He's the literal conclusion of Parker's story. Why would he not be present?
Sebastian Miller
>2 what-if stories
MC2 has pretty much the entire history of the original comics as it's backstory, and omits the last ten years which were never worth shit to begin with. It's a more authentic canon than the Mephistoverse crap you're a slave to
Oliver Lee
...
Lincoln Adams
I'm liking spencer's run too but this series and spec makes me wish for him in amazing as well
Jaxon Turner
>He's the literal conclusion of Parker's story
Says who?
>Why would he not be present?
Because he's a garbage character.
Isaac Hill
I mean, the reason they didn't allow May to be born in the 90s was because they didn't want to age Peter too much. By this book's very design, having May be born actually benefits the story being told. The solicits for the 90s issue ever refer to Peter's family, which to me implies more than just MJ.
A 50 year old Peter trying to protect his wife and daughter from a super-powered serial killer should make for a fun story. Or, well, appropriately tragic. Given how this issue was, I really don't see them getting through the 90s without a body count.
Cooper Hill
>he's the literal conclusion of Peter's story
Except he isn't. Miles wasn't even the end of Ultimate Peter's story because Bendis revived Peter and Miles was exiled to the Mephistoverse. I hope the irony that Miles himself comes from a WHAT IF STORY hasn't escaped you.
Matthew Jones
>Old Peter passing the torch to a younger Spider-Man
Even if the rest of the comic somehow sucks, this would be really great to see if it was done well.
Parker Fisher
There's a video from ComicPop with Chip Zdarsky. There he says that he pitched it as a story about Marvel in general not just Spider-Man but he was told that it was too big so he limited it to Peter.
He also says that he regrets not getting a mini for each decade instead of an issue per decade.
Isaiah Sullivan
00's
Morlun, Ezekiel, Shathra, etc Hopefully ignoring OMD/BND, and Sins Past though.
10's
Miles, Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Verse, and if there's some weird swerve there might be a version of Spider-Gwen?
Benjamin Martin
>if there's some weird swerve there might be a version of Spider-Gwen?
I could easily see Spider-Gwen being the daughter of Ben and Helen.
Colton Young
Death of doc ock
Elijah Ross
>Miles, Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Verse, and if there's some weird swerve there might be a version of Spider-Gwen?
Good god don't give them ideas.
Lucas Johnson
Ah yes. The canon MC2 with no active books, and it's last appearance being a bit part in a lackluster event.
He's a legacy character. That's what legacy characters do.
Jaxon Green
Man this decade had such shit stories, even the 90s at least had dematteis
Colton Gomez
It should be may that’s the best way for this to happen she’d have to be born in the 80s for it to work well but that’s fine
John Roberts
Miles has been around for almost a decade and he has done nothing but detract from peter. His true successor is always gonna be mayday since she was organically written into the story Miles is just a marketing tool always has been always will be
Jordan Scott
Ultimate got shuttered with Miles being it's only survivor. He's been elevated to canon. That's more than most What-if stories.
Brandon Smith
In the original MC2, May was a teenager during the late 90's. If Chip sticks to that, then she's going to be in her 20's during the 00's and 30's in the 10's.
Cameron Anderson
Ditto I want Mayday and with Ben and Helen we might get other Spider kids too (Reilly Tyne maybe? But his name is George Parker).
Sebastian Cook
So Namor one this round and reeds loss to a fish man
Noah Powell
Oh right, that's why MC2 Peter is The Other and why RYV Annie is the new master weaver of the multiverse. That's more than most what if stories too. Pfft.
You're losing the argument very easily.
Jace Collins
And the Ultimate Universe exists again, Bendis revealed that before he left. Miles ain't the conclusion to any story, Ultimate, Peters, NOBODIES. And the existence of the web warriors means EVERYTHING IS CANON DIPSHIT
David Stewart
>she’d have to be born in the 80s
Except she was "born" during Clone Saga 2, meaning the 90s issue. It complicates things a bit timeline wise because it means that Peter would be pretty old by the time she's conceived though. I could see the 80s issue ending with the stinger of MJ revealing she's pregnant though. That gives you child May in 90s, teen May in 00s, and adult May in '10s.
Jace Lewis
This. Yea Forumsmblr is finished.
Mason Torres
This part I'm also interested in, it looks like the Vietnam War actually got stretched out further because of Captain America and Iron Man's presence.
Caleb Perez
Both of the those facts that every writer can and will safely ignore until Slott or Editorial want to shit out another Spider-verse story. Both of those titles mean nothing until that event happens in like 2-3 years.
Jason Robinson
Makes sense. Iron Man's involvement means that the USA would be more hesitant to admit defeat. Meanwhile, Cap saving people on both sides means less casualties all around, which drags out the war by having more combatants.
Carter Price
MJ will 100% be on menopause by the 90s so they don't have much time to have a kid.
Bentley Brooks
Holy shit
Adrian Mitchell
We should or Harry going even nuttier.
Evan Johnson
>Except she was "born" during Clone Saga 2,
Yeah, I know. But the MC2 comics usually set her stories in late 90's/early 00's, which was weird but considering they wouldn't know what 20 years from the 90's would be like it made sense to be contemporary.
> It complicates things a bit timeline wise because it means that Peter would be pretty old by the time she's conceived though.
Yeah, if Mayday was born according to the time in Clone Saga, Life Story Peter would be in his late 40's.
Plus don't forget the Zdarsky has the benefit of hindsight and can switch stuff around, like for instance Clone Peter and Clone Gwen going off together instead of Clone Peter being dropped in a smokestack. I don't know how much of 70's Fantastic Four that Zdarsky read but 70's was around the time Reed and Sue's marriage was getting strained and they separated.
Isaiah Hernandez
looking forward to Spider-Boomer vs the Xtreme 90's and Maximum Carnage.
Carter Peterson
Here's another thing, what happens with Frank Castle if the war's still going on?
Brody Thompson
>fan fictionish
>A big two comic
Oh wow
Adam Barnes
I fucking love this book.
Ethan Cruz
Thanks, OP.
Matthew Richardson
my heart will not be ready for this.
James Evans
>Spider-Man never showed up in Nam
>Peter didn't even make the train to see him off
that's gotta hurt
Benjamin Gray
>Spider-Man never showed up in Nam
Well, not in this timeline.
Cooper Butler
>He also says that he regrets not getting a mini for each decade instead of an issue per decade.
I'm torn on that because doing it as a miniseries per decade could work, but doing each decade as an issue forces him to condense down to the most important parts possible. It's a real contrast against other comics that just seem to drag out.
Samuel Allen
I think two issues a decade could have been nice and would wrap up in a clean 12 issues but this condensed version is forcing him to tell what he probably thought the most important parts of the story were so there's no fear of page space going to waste.
Connor Lopez
Right, it's so refreshing to read a book that is just economical with its storytelling and every page is purposeful. I definitely would love to see him get a chance to do a similar treatment to other characters when this series is done, so we could see this universe from their perspective, but as a self-contained story, the restrictions are working in its favor.
Benjamin Jenkins
Well, the 80s issue solicits say that the Vietnam was has ended, so it's not like it'll be a perpetual war. In this setting, the superheroes' involvement just meant that the US didn't pull out so the war dragged on a few more years than it otherwise would have. The real question is whether the superheroes' involvement results in south Vietnam actually winning the war.
Ian Baker
Feels new universe ish.
How do we know Harry isnt a clone?
Dylan Thomas
>making a clone of Harry
Why would I want twice the disappointment?
Tyler Powell
Naw Peter and MJ should have a boy. Little girls are annoying.
Michael Butler
Peter always had daughters so it could be cool to see him with a boy for once
Owen Collins
Yeah, that's why I expect May to be born in the 1980's. But I also wonder if Zdarsky's going to add in the other kids Peter and MJ have, like Benjy or Annie May from the RYV universe. Not using Mayday would be a waste though, so I'd hope she gets to show up.
Christian Torres
Why must Reed continue to suffer?
Luke Wright
>Osborne creates Clone to take over
>Clone alive and well
>Gets contacted
It won't happen but it could be cool.
Andrew Garcia
Perpetual Vietnam is cool I just came off Watchmen.
Christopher Bell
damn peter i didn't realize spider powers let you burn people like that
Andrew White
Peter had a son with Gwen in House of M
Adrian Wood
How the fuck is this "offensive" it's not like he's apologizing for being a white male, he's just trying to get autographs for his buddy's kid, that's pretty in character
Logan Morales
It's still his fault even if not directly.
Levi Flores
wow, that's even more fucked than just wanting to fuck the clone
Nathan Wright
>60 year old Peter fighting both Morlun and Shathra
He's gonna die unless they introduce May or Miles
Gavin Baker
I have a feeling Tommy will be posting this page a lot in the coming months
Caleb Butler
Maybe he'll die to morlun and be reborn as the other with enough buffs to keep him spider-man at least till 70.
Cameron Bell
>Be Mark Bagely
>Get to draw Spider-man all the time
>Every writer from Bendis to Zardusky want's you too draw the clone saga
>The third worst event in Spider-man in history (at least I don't have to draw Norman's O face)
>Editor calls
>Hey Mark, we want you do draw a Spider-man event
>MFW
Jonathan Ross
>didn't end with the door close from The Night Gwen Stacy died
missed opportunity
Ayden Gomez
>Richards explains the contradictions inherent to capitalism
Landon Hughes
Wait how did Harry learn that Peter is Spider-Man?
Aiden Anderson
Norman told him. See
Camden Brown
What's the point of this mini series?
Elijah Barnes
I dunno, what’s the point of any story? I’m pretty sure this is a work intended to entertain.
Luke Clark
Looks like a cleaned up retelling of Peter Parker stories with the gimmick of Parker aging in real time.
Xavier Sanders
does this mean Peter is a virgin again
Grayson Ramirez
I can't believe it doesn't end there
Easton Morales
When do Marvel's July solicitations get released? I want a peak at what to expect for 00s Spider-Man.
Tyler Nguyen
He's had years to have sex with Gwen so I'm pretty sure they fucked before the Clone switch.
Leo Roberts
Should be next Tuesday.
Nolan Roberts
Savage
Colton Robinson
It kind of pains me to read this and think of what could've been with USM, but this was very enjoyable and different. Thanks for the story time.
Elijah Roberts
I didn't see that coming
Lucas Thompson
Aw, man!
Nathaniel Gray
Well, at least Ben have the happy ending
Ryder Morris
Wait...Secret...Wars...
Secret...
OH FUCK IT'S THE COLD WAR.
GUYS SCREENCAP THIS,THE SYMBIOTE IS A SOVIET EXPERIMENT
Grayson James
I don't know how, but I want to keep hope for a potential resurrection and becoming Agent Venom.
Joshua Gomez
A little convenient that she runs off with the clone, innit?
You'd think she'd be a bit more uncertain.
Andrew Russell
Just go for the black suit for the rest of the run.
Carson Powell
The clone Gwen had to tell Pete to try and save the bodies in the tubes, then after they found out the truth Pete went to go cradle the real Gwen's dead body rather than comfort the clone. She probably figured that he would never be comfortable with the idea of being with someone who wasn't really the person he fell in love with -- only an imitation. The same thing more or less happened at the end of the original Clone Saga. It' not a bad idea, but here it does feel a lot more rushed than it should. They should've stretched the mini out to twelve issues and tackled them in five year chunks, but whattya gonna do?
Henry Roberts
Stormin' Norman.
Michael Edwards
>Carnage is a communist
Ryder Cox
Even though like 90% of Stark's initial rogue's gallery was fighting Russian spies and saboteurs, I still don't really see him actually going to 'Nam, but maybe I don't have a read on how he was in the silver age.
Ryan Nguyen
If the Gwen Peter's been married to all these years, why would she go off with Ben?
Aaron Smith
What if the whole "merging with the Other" or whatever nonsense involved him emerging from a cocoon with organic webbing and those dumb stinger things thing winds up making him younger?
Nolan Adams
Jaxson Howard
I could see him getting overly invested considering his origin story.
Oliver Bailey
Obviously Reed Richards went and cured menopause on a drunken bender.
John Bailey
Abandons the wife who he married because she's a clone...and her rebound is his clone. That's fucked in many levels to even be an excuse, holy shit.
Lucas Foster
Imagine stealing your own wife from yourself.
Evan Gutierrez
>He also says that he regrets not getting a mini for each decade instead of an issue per decade.
I can understand why. I liked these issues but the fast pace really pushed the melodrama so some moments are inadvertently funny.
It's oddly reminiscent of the 70's writing so I don't mind to much but still.
Liam Myers
Each mini being 2-3 issues would probably be perfect, no ore, no less
Nathan Adams
peter was already showing his disgust for clones before he found out and then jumps and breaks down over the original gwen. You're right in that peter should stay with clone gwen and i'm saying that as an MJfag since depending on how long ago the switch was he was fine with her but we're not peter and he obviously didn't see it that way.
Jacob Reed
Did Harry intentionally aim those bombs to destroy the clones or was he just throwing them away.
There's something darkly funny that Gwen's death was just an accident.
Brandon Kelly
To be fair, I can understand. Imagine if someone you loved died and you had to live with that knowledge while also having a perfect clone of them in your face every day that reminded you of that fact. I could see that eating away at him.
Christian Bell
He was destroying the clones intentionally to spite Norman.
Angel Smith
Honestly they probably both went through some shit
She had to deal with the fact that she wasn't the person she thought she was and he had to deal with the fact that his wife was switched out and he never even noticed since the switch logistically had to happen after they were married at the very least
Wyatt Perez
>it’s another writer shits on MJ because they like Gwen story
Ayden Myers
A costume for every decade.
Blake Stewart
>we can’t share our electric technology, it would kill the steam industry!
Go to hell Reed.
Nicholas Bell
>when you’re such a shit your wife leaves you for a man with the blood of hundreds of innocents on his hands and has an extreme bipolar disorder to “explain” it.
Dominic Perry
Eh. I see his point. Unlike Electricity which is a replacement, more efficient power source, these would be literally indestructible clothing. You could buy 1 pair of close and never need to buy more again. I think it would lead to less sails in the long run.
That said, having clothes that always fit perfect would be cool.
Dominic Jackson
I'm not sure, do you guys think the ripple effect from Peter getting Norman arrested was better or worse than 616 canon where he lets him slide?
I mean, Gwen died both times, but are there other people Norman and Harry hurt/killed that weren't endangered this time?
Samuel Brown
The effect on Harry seems less bad this time around. We'll have to see if that changes down the line.
Daniel Scott
So in the 90s issue Peter has a heart attack?
Caleb Peterson
00s will be civial war.
Probably Ironman trying to control usa.
Owen Hill
90s.
Dominic Green
>implying this wouldn’t open the way for new industries based on reformatting and updating unstable molecule clothes to keep with current fashion trends
>implying you couldn’t make an entire industry off “clothing apps” that customize clothing on the fly—an outdoors suit that can transform into a raft or tent
>implying unstable molecules wouldn’t allow a new generation of fashion designers to create outfits unlike anything the world has ever seen and market them.
Just because Reed “fishcuck” Richards has no imagination and no faith in humanity to do anything but sit and drool with new technology doesn’t mean you should user.
What Reed is doing is evil.
James Young
Keep reading
Brayden Hall
Too early to tell. Harry is the one who accidentally killed Gwen. Norman presumably was still in prison since 1966.
Levi Russell
>Gwen alive
>MJ not married to Peter
Disgusting. What did we get rid of Slott for if this shit is still being peddled?
Asher Howard
I thought this was supposed to be some kind of Elseworlds thing, why's Reed the exact same as he is normally, some autist being cucked by a fishman?
Xavier Allen
Read it
Christian Lopez
Why are there still posters who don't read threads but post anyway and think no one will notice their fuck-up?
Jackson Jones
>it's a Reed slaps someone episode
Dominic Robinson
>clones were the worst thing to ever happen to any Spider-title
>lets bring that shit back for an alt-history book
Oh fuck.
Jeremiah Long
Read the fucking comic.
Ian Davis
I did, and it's shit because Gwen didn't die.
Mason Butler
>I didn't read the comic and decided to double-down
We know.
Blake Thomas
Elijah Brown
I wish Peter being an assistant/partner ro Reed's research was a thing in the main continuity.
He's pretty much the only guy who's friends with him that isn't already a hotshot researcher with his own lab and he can keep up with him intellectually.
Heck, he's friends with the entire FF. It's super comfy when they have adventures together.
Bentley Miller
Do you think jobs just pop up overnight? There's tens of thousands of people that would be next in line at a soup kitchen because some autist released the greatest shit ever made. Some might be able to get back in, but most of them wouldn't stand a chance and have to find other employment.
Cameron Brown
plus the fake parents
Andrew Ross
Peter with Gwen and Harry with MJ reminds me of this, Earth X Spidey.
Jacob Gray
so Pete is 50 when carnage comes around. That feels good.
and then would be super anime, but good for him to be de-aged by totem in '00's and then train miles in the 2010
John Moore
Alright fags, show me on the page where Gwen gets her neck snapped in a failed rescue attempt?
Evan Moore
>Ben have the happy ending
user, this is Clone Saga 1. Which ended with Ben "dieing" in a smokestack but actually surviving and going on to live a relatively happy life. Let's see how happy of an ending he gets after the 90s issue when he comes back and we have to deal with "What if Clone Saga 2 was 1 issue long, had Carnage going on a murder spree in the middle of it, and involved a middle-aged Peter and Ben."
I'm looking forward to the 80s issue. I'm terrified of the 90s issue. There is no version of the 90s issue that doesn't end in heart break for everyone involved.
Brandon Walker
>I'm changing the goalpost
Pathetic.
Logan Gutierrez
That'd actually be a clever way of doing Brand New Day, but it being clever doesn't necessarily mean it's good for telling an overarching narrative. Having a story about Peter aging in real time then getting de-aged in the penultimate issue would be weird, even if there is a perfectly logical in-universe reason for it.
Brandon Nelson
Gwen has the exact same haircut.
I wonder if it was intentional
Landon Price
Isn't that pretty much what happened in Byrnes Generations? I stopped enjoying it around that point
Jaxson Thomas
Would it be lame or cool if Chip used The Other arc to deage Pete a little so he can actually fight during the 00s?
Hunter Jenkins
Harry seems pretty fucking broken for the entirety of this issue. Maybe not as bad as what happened to him in 616, but timeline-wise, Harry spent a decade having his body and soul slowly crushed (not to mention he now needs to live with the guilt of being the one that killed Gwen) while in 616 over the same span of time, he went nuts over the course of a couple years, died, then came back to life and lived a relatively happy and fulfilling life up to now.
Justin Mitchell
Although a bit too tied to the whole Earth X/Universe X story, the Spidey issue is a really good comic on its own and I recommend.
John Nguyen
It's condensing Peter's life into a 6 issue mini. Unfortunately, there's no way to do that while ignoring the clone stuff.
Dominic Moore
The bigger problem is that whenever his inventions manage to get stolen it’s always converted into a WMD somehow.
It’s, a bit weird how writers never let Reed just say that instead.
Justin King
Cool in the sense that it's an interesting way to condense the important parts of 00s Peter, since The Other was a big thing there, and so was OMD/Brand New Day whose whole point was de-aging him. Condensing that into The Other de-ages him is a smart way to handle that if you're doing "The 00s in one issue."
But it's lame in the sense that seeing actually age over time is practically the whole point of this mini and that would spit in the face of that idea.
Jacob Murphy
Why people keep bringing Miles? The real heir to Peter's legacy is his daughter, May.
And will be amazing if May becomes Earth X Venom.
Joseph Hughes
>she didn't die the exact same way so it doesn't count
Sebastian Lopez
Or... what if Ben dies in the 90's and resurrects in the 00's?
Juan Perez
I wish we had seen more of this in the second issue, but I understand why we didn't.
Carter Sanchez
God damn. This is so fucked up but it works really well.
Lincoln Morris
Is this gonna be a 5 or 6 issue mini?
Robert Sanders
Make this goblin canon please.
Carson Phillips
Solicits say (of 6) but we don't know any solicits past Issue 4/The 90's.
Alexander Moore
Does Reed know that Peter is Spider-Man? I don't think it's established here.
Michael Gomez
What do you mean, user?
Christian Price
Probably.
Alexander James
He's talking about that Piccolo meme.
Carson Scott
I don't think so.
Reed probably knows because of his scanners or something like that, but it doesn't seem like Peter actually revealed that to him.
They probably wouldn't have had this fight if he shared his secret though.
Xavier Adams
Dear god the thiccness has me
Lucas Foster
After you show me the part in the comics where Flash dies in Vietnam
Colton Long
where my boy Hobie at? they're not gonna use Aaron Davis, right?
Ryder Green
Jackal would be a God tier movie villain, but feminism would hate it.
James Roberts
Only way we see anything Miles is if we get a 2010 issue, I thought it was cutting off at the 2000s. Though as much as I love Hobie they don't really have time for him in this, if they did trades based on each decade than absolutely we should get a mention
Fuck Miles and fuck Bendis even harder
Samuel Gray
1: 60's
2: 70's
3: 80's
4: 90's
5: 00's
6: 10's
I'm pretty sure there's going to be six issues.
Ayden Jenkins
>spoiler tag
That's the spirit. I thought this was the general consensus, but now reading this thread I realized I was wrong.
Samuel Diaz
Spiderverse made people realize miles can be done well
David Gutierrez
anything besides you CAN have potential, its the nature of probability. But whatever potential you think Miles has is buried under the fact that he's nothing but a succusful attempt to cash in on "woke" culture. He has no good stories no villains fuck the nigga has no in universe origin and, fuck this is going to end with peter and may dying and Miles taking his place isn't it? Fuck this timeline fuck sony fuck Miles fuck Bendis and fuck the academy. Little prick has contributed nothing nd gets praised for it
Aiden Lee
Jesus fucking Christ
Anthony Cruz
>implying it's in any way possible for us to need as many programmers for fashion brands as we have people involved in the textile industry.
Also as shown by Peter himself when he made Kaine's outfit, the logical conclusion is an outfit that you can alter via your mind, and then force to become stable.
Luke Morales
DUDE were you born retarded? We legit just said spiderverse showed he is a good character lmfao and yo still double down on the fact he is uninteresting and boring? Everyone here agrees his comics suck but damn his stories can kick ass under the right guy. SEE SPIDERVERSE FAGGOT.
Jeremiah Ward
The most patrician choice for this type of story
Jordan Martin
>Didn't read the comic
>AGAIN
Isaiah Peterson
>Everyone here agrees his comics suck
I liked the ultimate run up through Cataclysm.
Mason Richardson
>She has to die in this specific way or she didn't die
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ryder Thompson
How was je done right? was he written into peters life at an interesting point? Has he added to the lore in any interesting ways? Does he provide a way of looking at the spider person concept n a way we haven't seen before? What has he tangibly added, besides killing off peter, to spider-man? Spider verse was fine, thats it we saw it all before in the lego movie but at least there they wrote more than two interesting characters
Isaac Lewis
Jesus fuck Peters life is just suffering isn’t it? AU or not his life is fucked
Joseph Wright
Miles was never bad. It was always a meme of readers being convinced of 'white genocide' happening in comics. His 1610 run is pretty good, and his 616 run floundered due to
1. Bendis making the story an unfocused mess
2. Editorial having annual events that disrupt the flow of stories.
But even after that with the new writer on his 616 run has righted the ship.
Chase Hall
Depending on how these sell I imagine they'll spin it off into the same concept for other characters over a longer period of time. If his Two-in-One is anything to go buy, I'd love to see his take on FF over time.
Levi Lee
Zdarsky has had a real string of solid auditions for books he should have gotten but didn't
Good thing he's killing it on Daredevil, maybe in five years he'll be running the place like Bendis
Charles Watson
whats his origin? Whats his relationship with peter? Why is he attached to the name spider-man when he literally works in the same city as the original? Miles is bad because he's the outcome of a fetish who activly takes resources away from his original hero while giving nothing in return. Miguel Mayday fick even Parvitar all have their own lives and personal stakes in having the name. Miles is literally "I'm proud to be black spider-man because the color of my skins defines my life"
Thomas Russell
Also his 616 run sucks because he has no reason to be there and never has to because Bendis had the clout to let his story arc continue unabated from 1610. Bombshells story begins with ultimate peter and you have to read that far back to understand it sully. Miles stole his name powers costume love interest font and even his fucking numbering from peter and all he's given us in return is the inevitable attempt to kill pete off again to push him harder
Jacob Lewis
>"I'm proud to be black spider-man because the color of my skins defines my life"
Some weak bait.
As to his origin Miles is the sole survivor of the Cataclysm that destroyed 1610. He's given a second chance along with his friends and his family because of his assistance he provided in the final battle of secret wars. The details of him being brought over are still a mystery, but the boon granted to him resets him into the minds of all the NYC heroes as 'always having been there'.
As for NYC with the original wall crawler, the city is divided between the two for patrols. Not sure what you mean by resources being taken from Pete though.
Ian Diaz
Shit post this retard is
William Murphy
~2 decades of Gwen is as good as it gets, I suppose
Gavin Reyes
Again with this picture? What is it trying to prove?
His story continues from 1610 because he is the same person from 1610.
Landon Butler
>The details of him being brought over are still a mystery
Its not he gave molecule man a burger and boom no expanding on the plot. We don't know what his life was like in the 616 before he got his powers, he apparently remembers his past life when the story needs it but never beyond that. He's a terrible addition because he hasn't added anythign he's been in 616 longer than he was ever in 1610 and nothing has happened in his story besides it being "rebooted" to bring his uncle back. And what does "always been there" mean he's obviously a 2nd generation hero so when in petes story does he pop up/Why have they never attempted to expand there relationship? Its half implied theres a mentor mentee thing going but they never do anythign with it Miles is just loved more than peter because its what the story calls for, he has no side characters no motivations no character flaws I hate him because he's been shackled to peter, dragging him down just to kill him off.
And he's taking resources away from peter by just being there and also litrally taking away peters thunder in the first spider-man animated movie.
tldr I like some black people. I hate miles
Leo Hernandez
>Milesfags ruining a good thread with their shit again
Never change Yea Forums
Isaiah Perry
I hope 00s or 10s will be with the Last Stand suit.
Juan Evans
why is it never mentioned in his book though? He is just a normal kid who at some point gets spider powers and his dramatic reveal of getting his name is asking the person currently using it if he can use it to. Miles is a text book example that no one cares about the finer details of liking comics as long as they can feel good about liking something progressive. Is bombshell the same person as she was in 1610? Miles has a larger issue count than black panther a character almost 50 years older than him, and it was a trick to make you think that there is some sort of deeper story to him and there never has been.
I was always going to hate Miles since you have to kill peter to get to him. but at least when he was shunted off to the ultimate universe he felt like he had a purpose. In 616 he has no purpose and this constant indignance about it pointing that out is frustrating
Hunter Perez
All you have to do to make miles likeable is have him have met interacted with spiderman before he retires or dies and then gives him his mantle to carry on. The problem with 1810 is miles had no connection to Peter and in 616 Peter's still around. Spiderverse solved this by miles getting powers and then Peter entrusting him the the goober before he died
Mason Smith
it doesn't though because you end a story prematurely to give it to a much less interesting character. You want to make miles work become a spider-man fan, than you'll truly realize that he'll never work. Read sideways or static or the new blue beetle if you want to see a character of a different ethnicity while not defining themselves solely on that. I don't understand why you have to take something away to add nothing
Levi Gutierrez
This made completely no sense. Why did you have Peter and Gwen married in the first place when Peter's gonna hook up with MJ at the end? Why even make Gwen end up in that tube when it makes more sense that Warren would clone his own Gwen for himself in that tube rather than use the real Gwen?
You can have Gwen die in Peter's arm by Harry. The Gwen clone would be alive and sees that the real Gwen dies saving her. Give Gwen a heroic death. Then have the Peter and Gwen clone leave together. With the recreation of that door with scene MJ comforts Peter and then they can develop later on
The thought that the real Gwen was in that tube and not the clone feels off. And pairing with MJ just like that feels forced
Parker Cooper
It's Miles' movie how is that theft from Parker?
Miles opened the gate on Spider-verse and the concept of having radically different spider-people who aren't Peter Parker, rather than being Peter with a minor variation.
Also the reformation of the champions was in part by him.
'Always been there' means people recognize him as being Spider-man for quite awhile, even though he's only been active by our time for a short bit.
The details of him popping into the universe are hazy along with how he got his powers because he placed in there by Molecule Man. His Origin is still the spider-bite from 1610.
Jeremiah Watson
Your acceptance of the piss porr explinations from Bendis is sad. The concept of a spider-verse type story line has been around since the 90s and Miguel proved two decades ago that an alternate spider person can work and Mayday proved that the fans would accept a true heir to peter the only things those two don't have that Miles does is unabashed support from Marvel.
Asher James
The asking Parker to use the name is the manufactured memory from molecule man. As to why they haven't expanded on it yet, I'm not sure. Probably getting adventures under his 616 belt before going into it. But just because they aren't using it now doesn't mean they won't later. In all likely hood it's probably the reason behind the tension between Peter and Miles in the upcoming event.
Xavier Gutierrez
Im guessing chip only briefly glosses over the situation in nam in case he gets to do this for other characters
Daniel Russell
I liked the comic, but I will agree that having Peter marry Gwen just to kill her off and then follow up by having him (presumably) marry MJ is pretty weird. They could've just been engaged or something.
Gabriel Jenkins
He's had 5 years of adventures Bendis just did;t care because he knew people like you and wouldn't care about good story telling for just bland "representation" of the whitest afro latino ever
and if there is a Miles event I won't be buying it
Logan Williams
I'm glad to see that even in prison Norman makes sure to keep his waves on point.
Connor Williams
Miguel and Mayday were initially 'future' spider-people, not alternate universe. Miguel and Mayday also haven't had a good story since the 90's. Miles is and has always been the face of Alternate Universe spider-people.
Jacob Martin
He's gotta make sure he doesn't look like shit. Like Harry.
Joseph White
This is so fucking awkward use of a time skip. It's confusing and the intent doesn't come off the way it should and you have to actually go back and reread to properly to understand it.
Ethan Lewis
>Again with this picture? What is it trying to prove?
That blacks are awful.
Same with every other complaint about Miles.
Jason Cox
WOW, there's not enough jail to handle your level of crime buddy.
Aiding a known super criminal, kidnapping, cloning.
>MJ, who'd been partying it up with a human sized wallet, was talking mad shit up until now about Peter's choices since teenagehood to protect the city from supervillains just because he made a concerned remark about her and Harry and Flash is dead due to no fault of him
Nah this ain't me.
I'm not even against the MJ pairing or anything, but any other MJ but this. If her morality takes a 180 to make her more like 616 so this can work after however long living and thinking differently it'll just feel even more artificial.
Parker Walker
Miles has't been AU for longer than he was, just say you like these conversations where you like thinking I'm racist for liking spider-man before Miles and get it over with. I was just talking about this spider-man comic before y'all came in defending the Bendis donut steal
Jordan Morales
nvm I wrote this before popped up good night milesfags thanks for being pricks
Hunter Thompson
I already said Bendis' 616 Miles run was an unfocused mess. And these constant events annual events don't help either. Saladin already fixed that.
Joseph Gutierrez
Anyone else irked by Spider-Man's 70s suit looking so un-70s? It's too much of a deviation of the classic suit for how early on in his history this is taking place. Not even Harry's Goblin outfit looks like a product of the time.
Jose Anderson
I'm sad we didn't have any disco ball pumpkin bombs.
Hudson Miller
Isn't a major part of this issue about how much trends and tech have changed?
James Cruz
I think its just a reflection of the darker timeline, I'm not a fan of petes design but I like the idea of him making armor so I'll wait see what the 80s look like
Evan Hall
Jeremiah Wright
>and it's just like, really?
People with this mentality always fail to understand how much of a strain it is to be a partner to someone who every day comes back battered, bruised and bleeding and barely has any time to spend with you. Imagine being a cop's wife and your husband gets shot every other week, so you're basically conditioned to fear for the worst every time something bad happens. And that's not even taking account things like bad guys like Venom knowing Peter's identity and invading your home. Like, sure, she can come off as a cunt, but any relationship is a two way street and Peter often neglects his normal life.
Noah Mitchell
>Superior Spider-man doesn't work because by that time Ock will already be dead from old age, and there's no reason for Ock to transfer his mind into a 70 year old Peter anyways.
Unless they're cloning Peter's body, again.
Nicholas Hill
Its a possibility, who knows if Miles tries to clone Peter again.
Hudson Bell
Even after safely being locked behind bars, Norman still finds away to screw Peter over
Alexander Myers
What if the Clone Saga ends with real Peter dying and Ben taking over as Peter?
Elijah Howard
Did miles appear this early on??
Jason Peterson
Based norman
Bentley Hernandez
Sort of. I think this was retroactively made the first appearance of the Jackal.
John Edwards
Based cap
Jeremiah Miller
>"God what an total anti social jerk that Parker guy is"
It's not the guys fault that he has to worry about his only living family member being in a hospital.
Connor Wood
>Why even make Gwen end up in that tube when it makes more sense that Warren would clone his own Gwen for himself in that tube rather than use the real Gwen?
Because getting the real Gwen would mean more to him than having a Gwen copy?
Jayden Butler
They still do wave checks in the pen
Jonathan Nelson
>Peter switch from physics to electrical engineering
Ehhhhhh
Ayden Taylor
The problem I think is that we didn't get much of Mary Jane's character till now. About all we have to go on his her knowing that Peter was Spider-Man and her being frustrated with Harry and then getting drunk-angry at Peter. This might've benefited from an extra issue in between #1 and 2.
Christopher Clark
Idk why put Harry+MJ pairings always make me seethe
Seeing MJ with harry drives me up a wall
Nolan Perry
Yeah but idk if she does or should really know him best in this reality since they never even dated
Jacob Garcia
The absolute madman
What a tweeeeest
Bentley Lee
You know, I kinda miss MJ having this hairstyle. Like I get why they rolled back to the old Romita-design and stuck that way, but to me that was the style when I was reading Spider-Man comics.
Evan Green
Think of it this way, he's essentially THE Spider-Man artist from the 90s/00s from how often he gets stuck drawing him. Clone Saga is basically the 90s story everyone thinks of when it comes to Spidey, and USM for 00s.
Hunter Wright
Peter and Matt are the toilets of the Marvel Universe
Jose Gonzalez
Tony would be way too old by then
Bentley Howard
>Civil War in the superhero retirement house
>over who gegts the last pudding cup
Ryder Scott
>Tony would be way too old by then
Given how technology has progressed, Tony doesn't have to be in the suit to be Iron Man anymore. He can be an old guy using an interface to use IM armors as remote puppets like in most future storylines
Aiden Clark
>his 1610 run is pretty good
Top kek, it’s just black face ultimate Peter
Aiden Davis
To be fair, it's kind've hard to condense MJ's character development in to even just a handful of issues. People here would probably be even madder if Zdarsky tried to make her more accurate to how she really behaved during the Romita/early Conway era.
Xavier Taylor
>ask Harry to do you one favor
>he fucks it up
Nicholas Wilson
Honestly I like how logically dysfunctional it was in retrospect.
Pair up the party girl and boy with daddy issues but one has commitment issues and the other has neglect/abandonment issues. That was never going to end well.
It actually makes their later friendship sweeter.
Alexander Allen
I think the issue was that Peter never spoke about it.
As soon as Romita takes over and everyone starts actually communicating, everyone get's on better.
Jeremiah Roberts
I've always suspected that Harry is actually Norman's semi-failed clone.
How else you replicate that hair?
Carter Walker
Holy fuck, that hit hard after last chapter
Austin Stewart
Yeah that's why writers keep bringing it up and why Gage undid Slott's shit in Spider-Verse.
Easton Stewart
Peter has had sons, even in the MC2verse, read more.
Jackson Watson
You guys are also forgetting the clones, Ben and Helen will probably have kids of their own with clone degeneration and fuck possibly Kaine in the 90's holy shit.
Oliver Wright
Slott is not involved with Spider-Man anymore, dumbass.
Julian Rodriguez
Earth X Peter was such a shit father, Mayday in the ground crying and saying "You never wanted me" was fucked up.
Also writers are pretty autistic about Gwen when Peter didn't even gave the clone Gwen a second look when he thought she was the real Gwen come back to life because he was in love with MJ at that point.
Levi Sanchez
Kinda. Bruce got de-aged by the Lazarus Pit but ages 1 year for every century. Clark's aging slows down the older he gets.
I think what I find interesting is that Life Story gets compared with Generations, but I think the difference between the two is that Zdarsky is probably more open to including nods to modern stuff.
Andrew Jenkins
When you think about it, MJ being a 30 years old still spending her time and money being a party girl and a walking money pit is quite a sad thing.
A woman like her would actually obliterate someone like Parker.
Dominic Sanchez
Nice mis-direction. Can't wait to find out more about this world.
Jordan Smith
Next issue should be good, Mayday, Secret Wars and Symbiote will be fun. Kraven's Last Hunt will be great if that is what is being hinted at.
Christopher Hall
>Symbiote Spider-Man during this version of Last Hunt
Would be hype
Jason Carter
>Batman and Superman are just immortals by the end of it
Whats the point of doing a lifetime story with Batman if you just de-age him to be a young again?
Nathan Watson
I'm gonna guess they will do a Life story for other characters in this universe will it be ironman or the xmen
Liam King
This is Marvel we're talking about.
Luke Peterson
I guess him being involved in both Spider-verse stories means he wouldn't be consulted for the 3rd?
Parker Jones
Which one is "the Spidey issue"? Never read Earth-X
Chase Taylor
Daredevil would make a interesting life story
Nathaniel Jones
You mean miles haters.
Jayden Robinson
Its more like miles himself trying to ruin peter
Jeremiah Phillips
Clearly you haven't seen the movie lol.
Isaiah Flores
Yeah and I feel real bad for all the poor candle stick makers that got fucked over by the electric light, but somebody always has to get steamrolled for the sake of progress. The future will be better for it. This is just the way progress works. How many genius inventions will Reed hold back for fear of world upheaval? Will he hide the cure for cancer to save the pharmaceutical industry?
Asher Allen
He’s a comic book genius whose had multiple arcs about people stealing his tech and turning it into weapons. It makes sense he’s skiddish about releasing unstable molecules into the world.
I saw the movie and all I saw was miles killing off his peter and New York forgetting about it in 2 days because this new spider-man is better. You’ve made some real revelations to what you want from the world Tyrone
Dominic Walker
This, although I'd like to see how they handle Tony getting old too.
Austin Williams
>Iron Man life story
>Tony truly becomes Iron Man in the literal sense as the decades go by
Christopher Miller
I feel a little bad that peter just straight up abandoned clone gwen right there
When was the switch made?
Austin Price
>90s comes
>Reed is wanted internationally for completely making all the oceans uninhabitable with some experimental poison
That's what you get for cucking the world's greatest mind.
Parker Myers
Yeah you definitley didn't see the movie.
Andrew Torres
Lifer man
Jose Anderson
I theorized earlier it couldn't have been more than a year and I stand by that
Colton Edwards
Ahh, real Mary Jane.
Bet you whining retards hate this.
Angel Wright
>A woman like her would actually obliterate someone like Parker.
Her getting with Peter is what made her change, actually.
Hunter Rivera
>>hey MJ, how are you and Harry holding up?
Actually, he was outright saying they weren't doing so well. Can be easily taken as an insult.
Alexander Flores
I did, I just still don’t see how Miles is any more than a blatant attempt at cashing in on the “sole” crowd. If he had an origin beyond killing peter, or more importantly had any interesting stories or relationships in or out of costume maybe I could forgive it but he doesn’t even in his own books he’s a vestigial part of his own spider-man story. I’m sorry I liked spider-man before the movie
Levi Murphy
The general message of Byrne's Generations was that none of the replacements were as good as the originals. That and "Superman + Lana forever".
Owen Lewis
Kinda beats the purpose of making a generations story where new heroes carry on the legacy of the original ones doesn't it?
Ayden Peterson
They invited Peter to the sad sack scene only for him to find Harry Scarfaced out while his girl knocks back drinks so she doesn't have to think about his problems or "babysit" him.
Someone with faux concern would have just shrugged with no crowd to see or straight up snickered at how fucked up it was. Peter asking discreetly if the two are silently crying for help might not be flattering but it's no insult.
And MJ can catch a bus for throwing Peter further under the Osborn Express the very next morning. Jesus, Peter so far has done nothing feasibly wrong.
Peter was wary about Flash going to 'Nam for the wrong reasons, he chose to go despite the bad news. Somehow it's Peter's fault the consequences happened as they did. Was his remark out of line? Absolutely, but he was still on the money. Should Spider-Man have gone there and caught every last bullet, every last stray of shrapnel to keep Flash alive, or beheaded every suspicious rice farmer along his route just so Flash could come back? He still goes to his grave to show his respect.
He fought Norman and tried to keep him from relapsing and causing harm to the extent possible. He could have just left him for dead and been done with it but unbeknowst to Norman in his psychotic little mind the fact he's even still breathing is because Peter did give him a second chance, not a dream come true but a chance to wake up and realize how insane he was making his own life. So what does he do? Fucks him.
Peter argues with Reed on the ethics of their practice, does he step out of line? Yes, but that doesn't justify physical assault. Pete could sue him in fact, but he just takes it, even though he could probably tie Reed into a noose, and then quits.
Now his wife was kidnapped and dead and god know what else when she was undressed and put in that suit.
Oh yeah, Peter Parker the fortunate son, the spectacular Selfish-Man. Only doing every sensible thing he can to help, what a complete asshole!
Josiah Murphy
>Real MJ
>Drunk and upset over her coked up husband
Based retard
Elijah Peterson
Wow, he really is just Professor Impossible
Isaac Powell
Ah, there it is.
You never could handle the real thing.
Nolan Foster
How is this offensive? Because he didn't want dr doom's autograph?
Ryder Ramirez
Guessing when he gave her away at the wedding
Cameron Robinson
>Doing his taxes
>It's already after April 15th.
Yikes. That shouldn't have made it past first draft.
Ryan Campbell
>YES HAHAHA YES!
t. Sicko
Luke Richardson
When can we expect the trade to hit? Because this is one I feel like I'd want a physical copy of.
Ian Watson
Sometime next year would be my guess.
Blake Kelly
SPIDER-MAN: LIFE STORY #5 (of 6)
CHIP ZDARSKY (W) • MARK BAGLEY (A)
Cover by CHIP ZDARSKY
Variant cover by Andrea Sorrentino
THE REAL-TIME LIFE STORY OF SPIDER-MAN CONTINUES!
The superhero CIVIL WAR rocks the world! A hero’s death changes everything for both PETER PARKER and his family as LIFE STORY continues into the 2000s!
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$4.99
Yep, there's 6 issues like someone said, so we're definitely getting a 2010's issue.
Liam Hall
Civil War will most likely be the main focus but I hope we get some totem stuff in as well. Also please Last Stand suit.
Austin Price
Not really excited about the 2010s, but I liked what they've done in the first issues of this series, so I'll try to read it with an open mind
Jackson Price
How old would Peter be?
Eli Smith
Somewhere in his 60s I would imagine.
Isaiah Wright
He was 15 in 1962. So he'd be 53 in 2000 and 62 in 2009.
Noah Robinson
>Be MJ
>Cucked by Gwen, takes consolation prize.
>Gwen dies
>Perhaps a chance
>Surprise Felicia
Would be cool.
Andrew Harris
The more I’m reading these the more I think each decade should’ve been a trade rather than an issue, it’s still gold but missing the smaller moments undercuts it a bit
Samuel Adams
Peter could have a thing with Felicia during the 80s. Despite Peter and MJ getting together it's definitely gonna be bumpy at first.
Carter Foster
I think maybe two issues per decade. One of the problems I feel with modern books is sometimes stuff gets needlessly stretched out.
Dominic Gutierrez
Actually based Reed
Carson Taylor
Wouldn't both of them be a little old for that steamy hormonal relationship they had?
Jordan Lee
Felicia was around during the 70's and 80's, but we don't know how much older or younger she is compared to Peter. For all we know Zdarsky might make her younger than Peter if it's implied Felicia started being the Black Cat in the late 70's.
Lincoln Gutierrez
Civil war with captain dying
Camden Bell
Felica would probably be in her late twenties early thirties at the oldest here but with secret wars and kravens last hunt this issue we may not see her at all
Charles Russell
Cap would be to old for it to be a surprise in civil war maybe his kid?
Carson Richardson
>Peter often neglects his normal life
Because the last time he put his normal life over his super life he lost the most important person in his life, because as it turns out, everybody is somebody to someone.
Honestly even in a more grounded story where it's something like you say, a woman admonishing her cop husband for putting himself in danger, it's not a very likable character trait.
Nathaniel Foster
I think you're just too bent on hating on Miles before giving him any sort of chance. Remember, there are no bad characters just bad writing. You legit hate Miles existence to the point you cant even accept any decent writing for the guy. Its sad and pathetic.
Sebastian Thomas
00s cover isnt quite as good as the other decades.
Eli Phillips
I’ve given him a chance for 9 years, despite his origin. Saladin is a good writer but the first thing he did when he got the title was bitch about white people. And his run followed suit, Miles is just a crack concept created by a Jew who fetishizes black people and his character just there to create ire in the fan base and make him royalties without making any effort.
Isaac Peterson
>subtle 9/11 reference
Kino in the 2015 sense.
Jace Flores
I think that depends on what we see in that issue. I thought the second issue was going to take place in the early 70's, But it turned out it took place in 1977, with the implication some other things from the 70's happened (Ock hooking up with May, Reed's marriage to Sue strained) but not the original death of Gwen or Norman. Everything's very much up in the air now.
David Jones
Miles is literally the least political hero out there besides aliens who would have no concept of it. What are you talking about?
Xavier Torres
I thought this at first up until I realized it was a reference to 9/11 and the death of Captain America.
Carson Murphy
That depends on whether Zdarsky is going with the idea that the Super Soldier Serum slows down Captain America's aging, or not. If he ages normally then yeah, he'd be in his 60's (taking into account how he was on ice from the mid-40's to the early 60's). If the Super Soldier Serum slows down his aging, then he'd still be able to fight.
Isaiah White
He is also the least original hero least interesting and least connected to the hero who’s legacy he’s supposedly taking on.
Jaxson Harris
The star filled with read hints at Cap dying, and the obvious 9/11 reference.
Civil War will probably related to that.
Daniel Wright
Bruh, its the best one
Charles Baker
How can one comic be so fucking based? I actually went out and bought a comic to support based Chip. I even bought Symbiote Spider-Man