It's a pity Lex Luthor has become a multinationalist; I liked him better as a bald scientist. He was in prison...

>It's a pity Lex Luthor has become a multinationalist; I liked him better as a bald scientist. He was in prison, but they couldn't put his mind in prison. Now he's just a skinny Kingpin.

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Look, if Elon Musk can be a Businessman/Mad Scientist I don't see any reason Lex can't. Mad Science costs money anyway.

I can kind of see his point if we're talking solely about '80s John Byrne Luthor. That Luthor wasn't a mad scientist at all. He was just a business man. He yelled at smart people to do the science stuff for him.

But since then, later writers fused the mad scientist and business tycoon interpretations into the best version of Luthor.

Gaiman is better as a novelist than a comic writer. Prove me wrong

Having worked in the field, if you're really good at science, you either go the insane route of continuing in academia with the constant threat of "publish or perish" looming over your head or start a business.

I think he’s equally good at both. All of his stories are about stories if that makes sense

Easy. The best thing he ever wrote is a comic, and only one of his novels is actually very good at all, the rest are boring and dull. Most of his comics are pretty good.

Good Omens and Anasazi Boys are better than Sandman

Lol. His only renowned novel, American Gods, is sophomoric trash. It reads like YA fiction.

I tried reading american gods comic but it was shit

Better than Ramadhan? (My favorite issue).

>thinking American Gods is his best novel

It's by far his most famous novel, so it's the one I read and it was terrible. I see no reason to delve further into his bibliography when there are so many other things I can read/do, such as shitpost on Yea Forums.

Read Good Omens

No thanks

But he does amazing science shit all the time whenever he's in prison.

American Gods is probably his worst work, except for the town parts. Stardust and The Graveyard Book are great, Anansi Boys is pretty good.
Good Omens is also pretty bad.

>I can kind of see his point if we're talking solely about '80s John Byrne Luthor.

It was from an interview with Gaiman from 1994. So, actually not that far off (but I think by that point they went through Lex pretending to be his own son and then the whole Fall of Metropolis thing).

Rereading Sandman Overtures was like exposition hell.

desu they didn't really embrace mad scientist Lex Luthor again until around the mid 2000s.

Go teach more grade school bio

>He was in prison, but they couldn't put his mind in prison, man!
How many layers of recreational narcotics were you on back then, Neil my dude?

Under johns he became a fucking anti-hero, fuck that too.

I don’t get this argument considering I could just argue that Lex was just another dime a dozen mad scientist Pre-Crisis. Shit, he pretty much was a copy of Ultra-Humanite when he was created.

Good Omens was a collab with Pratchett

>That Luthor wasn't a mad scientist at all. He was just a business man. He yelled at smart people to do the science stuff for him.

He was still a scientist.

Johns does that to a villain in every fucking run. Black Adam, Rogues, Luthor, Sinestro.

Lex could’ve been the Open Borders corrupt business tycoon while Supes is the working man traditionalist that puts America 1st.

What was even the point of that issue? It was completely unrelated to the overarching plot

sinestro was easily the worst of this
>we've always been friends
fuck off you retarded fuck

I like 1602 and Good Omens, and I enjoyed Coraline as a youngin’, but I attempted to read Norse Myths recently and found myself turned off by his voice. I do fully intend to read sandman one day, but I’m careful to temper my expectations.

As far as I can tell he’s pretty consistent across mediums.

Thats why I like it!
Its a standalone, plus it looks beautiful and with a messag too!

Gonna go out on a limb and say that Gaiman's opinions on capeshit shouldn't be taken all that seriously. Meh

To expand, it's not his forté or something he seems to have ever been that interested in. Which is fine. At least he's not as autistic about that as Mills or Ennis.
The guy's written plenty of good stuff himself (in other genres/mediums) I'm not doubting that before one of you tries to jump at me.

>Gonna go out on a limb and say that Gaiman's opinions on capeshit shouldn't be taken all that seriously.
Why? He’s too busy to write an ongoing, but he clearly does enjoy the genre. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he’s wrong about everything.

Now it’s my turn to misspeak, what I meant was he seems to like capes quite a bit, just because he focuses on other genres doesn’t mean he’s uninformed about another.

Eugh. Guh. UGH! No.

I actually like his comics but haven't finished any of his novels. His story collections are good, though, so I guess his strength really is the short form.

He did write one of the best capeshit out there. His Miracleman is far better than everything big two is printing.

He's absolutely at his best as a short story writer. That goes for his prose and his comics, the best issues of Sandman are all the one and dones.

With Moore so he shouldn’t have all the credit.

This goes for most writers.

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If Gaiman is talking about the time he'd have read comics, that would've been maybe the 60's, maybe early 70's. Ultra-Humanite only got used briefly during like the first two years of Superman and fell into obscurity until he got brought back in the early 1980's, so Luthor being a copy of Ultra-Humanite really wouldn't matter at that point.

I can't think of other mad scientists Pre-Crisis that were being used during the 60's at DC on a regular basis. Sivana wouldn't get used by DC until the early 70's, Hugo Strange also wouldn't return until the 70's. Surely there's more, right?

Mad Scientist Luthor was eased back in, though still acknowledging him as a billionaire. Had the Superman 2000 pitch gone through they would've done it earlier though (you could see elements of that version of Luthor in Millar's Superman Adventures)

BASED. But i prefer him as a evil monk

> shadow moon
lmfao it's retarded

he's an idiot, Lex as a businessman is superior because he's a problem Superman can't punch his way through, as a mad scientist he's just a dumber, more smug version of Dr. Sivanna who only has 2 idea, depower Superman or robot suit