Why are Catwoman and Elektra still widely cited as the all-time low point of superhero movies as a genre, but Steel is so seldom mentioned or even remembered?
Why are Catwoman and Elektra still widely cited as the all-time low point of superhero movies as a genre...
Eli Torres
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Brayden Turner
Being forgotten is worse than being hated.
Carson Lee
Gonna go out on a limb and say it's partly due to much less promotion around it. The declared budget was only like 19 mil. Elektra followed a highly marketed flop, Catwoman was a failure that they forced an award winner into.
Nathan Cruz
Because Steel was a barely-promoted, low budget failure released during an era when superhero movies were on the downswing and was eclipsed by a far more high-profile failure in the same year with Batman and Robin. Catwoman and Elektra were high-profile failures made when superhero films were in the upswing again and often cited as the central reasons why female-lead superhero movies were basically non-existent until Wonder Woman's release over a decade later.
Adrian Parker
Because SHAQ DADDY! You can't hate the Shaq. And probably because Steel was a relatively unknown character that had only been around for a handful of years when the movie came out. He still remains a fairly small character today. The other two had actual actors in the parts and actual expectations.
Juan Rogers
It's older, it was never really relevant (coming out the same year as B&R and Spawn) and nobody should really expect anything from Shaq and a director who's biggest credit was creating a rule 63 Billion Dollar Man.
Brayden Rivera
HE MUST BREAK YOU (but not the bank)
Asher Thompson
Steel wasn't as bad as Elektra or Catwoman.
Tyler Rodriguez
Though I should note that, discredit where it's due, the film's catastrophic failure along with Batman and Robin killing that film franchise did lead to DC not making any movies for years. They only wound up trying again in 2004, and the direct result of that was Catwoman, and didn't get their credibility back until Batman Begins since Catwoman was also a huge failure.
Christian Clark
>You can't hate the Shaq.
I assure you you can, you just have to watch him on TNT. Guy is a pretentious idiot who's funny once in a blue moon.
Chuck>Shaq.
Jordan Long
Owen Cruz
To be fair, Steel probably had the best TV depiction of the Oracle. Even though nobody called her that, it was blatantly obvious what kind of character they are ripping off.
Nathaniel Powell
>Chuck>Shaq.
Well, yeah. Nobody beats Chuck. And yeah he's definitely annoying when he gets into muh rings discussions but I find him to be a big goofy child that I can't straight up hate. And I like Shaqtin.
Andrew Phillips
A lot is lost in translation I'm sure but that's still pretty hilarious to me
Levi Butler
I thoroughly enjoy Dolph Lundgren Punisher. Yeah, it has barely anything to actually do with the comics, but's a solid '80s action movie through and through.
Matthew Hughes
>remembered
Liam Barnes
I have a soft spot for it too. Shit that goes for most low budget cape flicks of the 80s thru early 2000's.
Jacob White
The Birds of Prey show had the actual Oracle
Don't remember much about it though
Sebastian Hill
Batman Begins was just a year after Catwoman.
Lincoln Cook
Because incels hate women
Jack Hughes
>having sex would have magically made them good films
They were terrible and deserve their scorn
Julian Thompson
>Catwoman and Elektra still widely cited as the all-time low point of superhero movies
Josh Trank's FF was WAY worse than both of those. So were Schumacher's Batman films.
Jack Parker
>So were Schumacher's Batman films.
"No."
Charles Lewis
Hey, Forever was decent enough and B&R had Arnie lovin' life, spouting off the most wonderful ice puns put to screen.
Julian Perry
Batman and Robin honestly works as a kind of updated version of the '60s series
Jaxon Nguyen
At least Schumacher's Batman movies are entertainingly bad.
Luis Thomas
This was an era in which cape films were pretty much always bad.
Noah Green
Because no one remembers it.
And the all-time low point for Superhero movies are these
Austin Thompson
Two of those are actually good, though. And one of them is alright.
Juan Miller
Because the theme song was dope at the very least.
Justin Barnes
Because nobody remembers it exists
Parker Long
Is it?
Cameron Watson
>all-time low point of superhero movies as a genre
If only.
Elijah Myers
Still mad faggot?
Gabriel Morris
Lundgren still the best Punisher.
Nicholas Kelly
Could a Steel movie work nowadays? If it's in the DCEU?
Who would be the villain(s)?
Gavin Myers
It's cheesy but kind of acceptable as a sunday movie on TV for kids.
Matthew Russell
I don't think there's a Superhero movie that couldn't work if you just handle it properly. If it's ridiculous, make it ridiculous. Play into the camp. If it's serious, treat it seriously.
Now whether or not the DCEU would actually do that is another question and the answer is no.
Justin Cox
Top tier fetish but That movie wasn't as hot as I hoped.
Gabriel Ramirez
Shaq is an egomaniac that can't accept he's wrong, Kenny is the pretentious one. They still work very well as a four man team though, you're just a baby.
Chuck>The Great One>>>>>>>>>>>>Shaq=Kenny
Jaxson Davis
My bottom 20:
Catwoman
Steel
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Return of Swamp Thing
Son of the Mask
My Super-Ex Girlfriend
Jonah Hex
Hellboy (2019)
Batman and Robin
Blade III
Elektra
Howard the Duck
Amazing Spider-Man 2
Fant4stic
Ghost Rider 2
Sin City 2
Kick-Ass 2
Green Lantern
JUSTice League
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
Brody Hall
>Wonder Woman
>Aquaman
>Shazam
>bad
Aaron Ortiz
Damn, 21. Ok remove Return of Swamp Thing, I'm not 100% it even got released theatrically (like Man-Thing didn't).
Lucas Hill
>Can be baited with soap and a piece of string
Self portrait I take it?
Wyatt Fisher
Haven’t you watched CoCo? If you’re forgotten, your soul in the afterlife will be erased (but only if you are Spanish/Mexican).
Charles Rogers
>Son of the Mask
this is not based on any comics per say, only the first movie was an "adaptation"
Adam King
All this needed in order to be the best Punisher movie was to slap a skull on his shirt.
Luke Gray
No Ghost World?
Josiah Gonzalez
I kinda' like Steel.
Caleb Hall
>people still denying Man of Steel’s greatness
Luis Ortiz
Honestly the Mexican version of pagan Christianity is bizarre
Easton Allen
Catwoman killed Benjamin Bratt's career
Cameron Barnes
Yeah it just needs to be a Reign of the Supermen movie that ends before Clark comes back.
Either that or his story from 52 where he takes on Lex and his "Infinity Inc."
Ryan Walker
this.
Xavier Lee
Was the wheelchair chick from that movie their version of Oracle?
Nolan Gray
>all those movies together can't reach the grossing of one Marvel movie
kek
Gabriel Nguyen
oracle wasnt put in a wheelchair when this movie was made
Christopher Mitchell
Isn't the DCEU fun and silly now since they canned Snyder?
Carson Young
In a perfect world Steel would guest star in a new Superman movie. I like Henry