>Hellboy and Liz Sherman have twin sons, one demon-looking like Hellboy and one human-looking like Liz.
>Agent Meyers returns from his secret mission in Antarctica, where he has learned that a neo-nazi cult led by industrialist Roderick Zinco has revived Rasputin and Kroenen.
>Rasputin manipulates an archangel captured by the Nazis during WWII to go after Hellboy and his children as part of a masterplan to manipulate one of Hellboy's kids - who is the harbinger of doom - into opening the gates of Hell and starting the apocalypse.
>Hellboy and Liz team up with Meyers, Abe Sapien, Johann Krauss and the ghost of Lobster Johnson to protect the kids. They naturally presume the harbinger of doom to be the demon-looking one, but obviously it turns out to be the human-looking one.
>The BRPD defeats Kroenen, Zinco and their followers, but Rasputin successfully corrupts the human-looking kid.
>Human-looking kid dies opening the gates and the apocalypse begins, but Hellboy manages to harness his demonic power without succumbing to evil and sacrifices himself to kill Rasputin for good and close the gates.
>Meyers becomes the new head of the BRPD and the movie ends with the implication the demon-looking kid will be inspired by his father's sacrifice to keep protecting the world from monsters as the "new" Hellboy.
Wasn't Bruce Campbell going to play Lobster in this? Would've been worth the price of admission solely for that.
Camden Myers
Sounds a tad routine, but knowing Del Toro, would've played out amazingly.
Noah Johnson
Yikes, and this is why they should never let Del Taco adapt any existing IPs, he just wants to tell his own OC stories.
Hunter Hughes
has anyone seen the movie? is it as bad as the trailer makes it seem? there's no way the whole movie could have been as bad as that few minutes was is there?
don't care for the story t-b-h, as it's basically fan-fiction, but it still would've been infinitely better than the reboot. gdt captures the "feel" of hellboy very well - plus he doesn't use embarrassing mcu-tier "humour."
Kayden Phillips
What few minutes? And it's bad, really, really bad. I went to see it with a few friends yesterday and we were all speechless at how bad it was.
Isaac Morgan
It's the violent over-the-top comparison to Del Toro's version.
Also for whatever reason more of Mignola's lore and wankery was allowed in the new one (Lobster Johnson cameo, plus post-credits as a ghost). Baba Yaga jump-starting the apocalypse to fuck over Hellboy, etc.
Chase Ross
within minutes of the cringe opening scene/narration i knew it was going to be an abomination... i was right.
Matthew Morris
im talking about the trailer and the post credit scene someone ripped onto youtube so all in all I've seen about 3 minutes of it
would you say those 3 minutes accurately represent the film?
Brandon Reyes
>it's the FUCKIN dark ages >here comes king arthur - yeah, THAT king arthur
Simply epic *dabs*
Bentley Moore
I haven't been keeping up with the film, which characters do we see on screen? hellboy and liz yes but what about abe or everyone's favorite ghost in an empty flightsuit
Jordan Peterson
Meh.
John Green
Supposedly the director was pushing for a more grounded, horror approach while Lionsgate and the producers basically just said "give us a reskinned Deadpool". Having actually watched it, would you say this is believable?
Mason Gutierrez
Yes, definitely. It tried too hard to be funny (ala, Deadpool) and was embarrassing every time. On-the-other-hand, there were so many serious scenes that were unintentionally funny - but for the wrong reasons of course. Bad all round.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Please tell me you're joking? So it just start out cussin' like nearly all teens do when they hang out with friends? Does it get any better or is it just stupid all the way down until the ending?
Levi Murphy
Liz, Abe and ghost guy aren't in it. A very sweary Bruttenholm and an irritating Alice Monaghan feature heavily. Oh, and the were-jaguar guy.
Jonathan Flores
Why are we still alive...just to suffer?
Samuel Thomas
Abe is teased at the end, putting him at a much later point in the timeline.
This one does spell out Hellboy is the rightful king of England and heir to King Arthur.
Nolan Reyes
Honestly, I'm not joking. Those are actual lines of dialogue in the opening scene. If I wasn't with friends I honestly think I would've left then and there. The only "serious" character (ie, doesn't swear or quip) was the witch played by Jovovich.
Logan Watson
besides the pig-creature, baba yaga and nimue there was not a single likeable character. i just wanted them all to die.
Ryder Jackson
It would have been better than the reboot but then almost anything would have been better than the reboot.
I feel like originally they had a 7/10 script that some higher up ruined by saying it needed to be more like Deadpool. Id still recommend seeing it if your a fan because it's fun to get to see some of the pages come to life like baba yaga and the giant fight
Juan Russell
the giant fight bore little resemblance to the original.
Dylan Wilson
I honestly hated that the films made Liz and Hellboy lovers. It ruined their relationship. I also didn't like how it seemed they were aping off MIB it trying to keep things, like Hellboy and Abe, secret. At least new film let Hellboy go out in public like the comic does. yes I do think the del Toro movies are objectively better but there are things about them I don't like and there things about the new I do.
Joseph Morris
with any luck they'll try again in ten years and get tim sutton to do it
I've seen the movie, and the horror stands out best in the Baba Yaga scenes. The only Deadpool similarity is in painfully contrived quips that lack wit or proper delivery. What a loud disappointment it was.
Tyler Collins
there were so many british soap actors in the new movie. it was weird.
Jack Rivera
That's even more fanfic tier bullshit than his prior movies were.
and it's still fifty times better than that new gory capeshit turd of a film the studio shit out without him
Jonathan Wilson
Definitely. It's clear the producers and probably Harbour wanted an action-comedy while the director leaned more to action-horror. The film's flaws are the result of conflict between those competing visions.
I didn't like how Harbour played it, which is why scenes like the after-credits with Lobster Johnson are sobad.
William Kelly
its something that sat in development hell, and you can tell watching it that it was heavily edited/reworked into trying to be something different than what it was originally planned to be.
Tyler White
I remember complaining about how wildly different the Del Toro films were...I feel like I did a monkeys paw guys
Robert Evans
First line of the movie goes “they called it the dark ages, and for a good fucking reason.”
Justin Moore
From what I hear, they included the Mignola mythos almost at random. To toss in bits of the Wild Hunt and some endgame stuff from later volumes. That's insane to me. Why the fuck would you rush that stuff into your first movie of what was supposed to be a new franchise.
Plus I read about that post credits scene with Abe and the one with Lobster. That sounds almost as bad as a "yellow spandex" tier easter egg, not a good use of the characters.
Xavier Torres
Why was this scrapped again? Did Mignola gave Del Toro the boot?
Thomas Collins
lame
Andrew Bennett
It wasn't totally at random, it was all a part of the man vs monster angle that dovetailed into Nimue's story. That's what most of HB has been and I could see something like Wake the Devil adapted after this one and still work.
Luis Perry
I liked the movie because of the more direct adaptation of the comics than GDT, which was more a tonal adaptation, but it's unfortunately not a great production and there were a couple things that really triggered my autism. The prologue scene with Arthur dismembering Nimue is said to be 517 ad but for the rest of the movie Ian McShane refers to that specific incident as the 5th century. That's just not right.
Gabriel Jenkins
Basically the new movie was dogshit, but picked the right stuff to adapt and would've been great if done properly; whereas GDT's stuff is fanfiction-tier, but gets the overall aesthetic and feel right. Why can't someone just do it properly? Pretty depressing tbqh.
Mignola didn't control shit, he sold the rights to jewlywood producers and all 3 movies were made at their behest. Del Taco didn't get this one made because he had a conflict because of his attachment to The Hobbit, despite that never materializing and then time just kinda moved on. I've heard he also maybe asked for too much compensation or production budget, or both. Pearlman's availability may have been an issue as well.
Josiah Wood
>my uncle works at nintendo
sure kid.
John Powell
I think that's pretty apt.
Christopher Moore
have sex
Jack Diaz
I know what you mean. Men in Black 3 had a really weird mistake where Will Smith gets shot three times and travels back in time immediately to remember where the bullets went and dodge them. The problem is that the bullets are in a completely different pattern...
Julian Hall
Not an argument, kid.
Grayson Morris
Have sex, /pol/.
Ryder Lopez
>I honestly hated that the films made Liz and Hellboy lovers. It ruined their relationship. I also didn't like how it seemed they were aping off MIB it trying to keep things, like Hellboy and Abe, secret. Agreed. Clearly the biggest problem with all 3 films is fucking Lloyd Levin.
Easton Garcia
Not an argument, kid
John Fisher
and?
As long as the story is told and presented well, that's ok.
Why do adaptations keep trying to make Hellboy a comedy when the source material and its spinoffs is straight up Lovecraftian in tone and plot?
Like in the movies Hellboy's this wise-cracking action hero when in the comics he's a surly old man who just wants to die.
James Gray
Yup. There's a couple scenes that give an action-horror vibe, although one of them is trying way too hard to copy the Grudge but with really bad CGI. The rest is the movie trying to be Deadpool or Marvel without know how that actually works.
Easton Hall
It's what the audience wants.
Kayden Clark
Even if they say they don't.
Jacob Roberts
It's not the worse thing and is actually kinda watchable but that's the best I can say about it. At least it isn't Suicide Squad bad, but it still aint anywhere close to good.
Face it, because of how horrible the last movie is and considering no one reads comics any good memory most people will have of hellboy will be because of del toro
This to be honest. Only thing I can hold against Del Taco is how he turned Abe Sapein into C-3PO.
Julian Gonzalez
GDT’s interpretation was alright, it’s about as fanfictiony as a reboot of a comic series. As much as it’d be cool to get a Hellboy movie done exactly like the comics, the first two movies were watchable, fun, and introduced a bunch of people to the comics, which at the end of the day is better than most comic book movies these days
Jose Johnson
It was OK. I liked the monster designs at the end , the action scenes were good and I liked the characters. Hellboy himself was for the most part alright but a bit too fucking angsty for my tastes. Mila is fucking hot though, isn't she pushing 50 now?
Jaxon Butler
ALL I FUCKING WANTED WAS TO SEE ROGER THE GOLEM FOR FILM DAMN IT
Zachary Johnson
It's obvious what needs to happen. Netflix series!
David Walker
Literally who Surely you meant Joe Golem, Occult Detective?
Andrew Jackson
all i know i my grandmas neighbors went to see it in a packed theater and they and a lot of other people left some even crying because of the over the top gore and showing shit like skinned kids
Adrian Gomez
>not an argument XD just like my favorite youtuber says!!
Ryan Long
Motherfucker you know NOTHING about the hellboy comics.
user I was making a joke It's a reference to that time Mignola got mad because he drew Joe Golem and someone thought it was John Constantine Don't you go getting uppity with me
Because Hellboy has plenty of dead pan comedy elements. It was never a pure horror series. That's what BPRD and Abe's series became when we got to the apocalypse.
Juan Murphy
Agreed.
Charles Davis
>is it as bad as the trailer makes it seem? Worse.
Joshua Morris
This, I was expecting Steve McGarrett and got a breakdancing basement dweller.
Luke Baker
>dead pan Key words here. Neither production got the tone of the character. One's too snarky and arrogant the other is just dumb.
Jonathan Taylor
this , hellboy's humor is dry and situational, not marvel-esk quips
Joseph Thompson
>Guillermo Del Toro's HELLBOY 3 Pitch >Would it have been better than the reboot?
Yes.
Hunter Torres
Meh
Josiah Martinez
anything would've
Adrian Young
>Hellboy and Liz Sherman have twin sons, >one of Hellboy's kids - who is the harbinger of doom That's fucking stupid, and I feel it go against one of the major themes of Hellboy
The reboot has issues but it's far from the dumpsterfire that people would have you believe. Frankly people hate it because it's not Del Toro's Hellboy. Need to get over it it's never going to happen.
Personally I think the only way Hellboy will ever be done justice is in the form of a TV series. Either animated with Hellboy voiced by Perlman or live action series on something like Netflix or HBO with a good budget and actor willing to wear the Makeup/prosthetics through multiple seasons.
Hell I would bring back Harbour for it, he was written a bit whiny for the movie but overall wasn't bad as Hellboy
Henry Gomez
why?
Evan Bailey
it is but the question should be would it have been better than the shitshow we got?
Noah Collins
The animated movies were already more Hellboy than any live action.
Camden Cook
Well, that was the PITCH, not necessarily the end result. Plenty of films change after the pitch, sometimes for the better and sometimes not so much. I imagine Del Taco might have just had that as the general premise and then would have changed it as he went along.
James Peterson
Sounds like a damn good time. A simple story but effective.
Noah Moore
Undoubtedly.
Joshua Cox
I like movie Abe. C-3PO vs K2SO pic here.
Bentley Cox
One of the major thing about Hellboy is the prophecy, that he will open the gate for the dragon. But he always fights against this prophecy making sure it will never come to pass, but if they just go >Actually it's your son who will open the gate Then that just throws away a big part of his character
Thomas Rivera
Because Hellboy is attached to the Right Hand of Doom.
Juan Murphy
What fucking retards were these people? The trailers made it very clear that is was goona be an edgy gorefest. Anyway I just needed an excuse to post this. youtube.com/watch?v=loqYlYqtsmY
Robert Cooper
Only in that he can pass on the responsibility so easily (albeit unintentionally) by fathering children. It's not exactly an unheard of concept, but it does certainly lead to questions like what about his hand like pointed out. If anything, a better twist could have been that the villains maybe have groomed their own kids to siphon Hellboy's power/role to get what they want (think something like the plot of Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow), and in the end he saves all the kids by giving up his life.
David Powell
Did no one else find the reboot epic? Are there really so many plebs on this board?
Owen Young
the having kids thing is dumb. he should never have got with liz. it was a dumb idea.
Ryder Nelson
Still mad that we'll never get more of those.
Gabriel Rogers
any reason in particular? there could be a chance, right?
Jacob Rogers
I think I prefer that over them halfassedly trying to adapt a story they can't properly do in film.
Adam Barnes
but the reboot handled the story admirably well. did you even watch it?
Kevin White
It handled the story ok, but it was aggressively noisy, gave no room to breathe between scenes, the CGI was not great, and they were all dicks.
Honestly some editing might change my mind on not liking it because I recognize it had good elements but overall I didn't enjoy the experience.
sounds kinda shit desu. not worse than the reboot, but still shit
Hudson Howard
Not an argument.
Tyler Moore
yes it is, tacoboy.
Jonathan Watson
No it isn't, newfag.
Nolan Young
>Would it have been better than the reboot? It's hard to imagine how it would've been worse.
Cameron Perry
yes it is, tacoboy.
Jason Lee
Still not an argument, newfag.
Camden Edwards
it still is, tacoboy.
Blake Rivera
The whole passing of the torch is a shit idea but Id be down to see a Bruce Campbell Lobster Johnson movie. I wish studios would give some competent director a million bucks and let him sam raimi the shit out of it. Profitable and fun.
Adam Stewart
the movie is bloody and not some marvel cuck film so yeah, its getting bad reviews because the only vocal people on the internet are losers and we all know journalists are gay as fuck. see the movie and make your own decision.
Nolan Rogers
107050970 (You) You can keep ad homing all you like, newfag, it's still not an argument.
Jordan Mitchell
>the movie is bloody and not some marvel cuck film so yeah So yeah what? Are you really defending this turd? If swearing and violence is all it takes for you to be impressed, then kudos I guess. But this completely shits all over comic Hellboy. It is an argument though.
Austin Wood
If you want movie adaptations to be 1:1 to the comics then stick to the comics
Levi Myers
107051198 (You It literally isn't an argument, calling people names isn't arguing, you retarded newfag.
Daniel King
>107051387 Oh yeah? Well you just called me a name, so by that logic, yours isn't an argument either.
Jack Evans
Whatever, newfag. The fact that you can't even argue why the reboot is good shows you have no argument.
Brody Ross
>107051429 Joke's on you, I'm not even the guy you originally were arguing with, I haven't seen the movie nor will, because it looks like a stinker. I'm just keeping this thread up for some reason. I prefer Del Toro's.
Dominic Jackson
>huuur, I was just pretending Sure thing, kiddo. Just shows how much of a newfag you are if you're going to shitpost so weakly.
Hudson Lewis
>107051497 Don't be mad because I decided to keep you going, you can't help yourself can you? Just reply to all the bait without even considering I'm just taking the piss.
Its alright. Less story, more lore, amazing makeup and terrible cgi (like Black panther level terrible). If you interested, you should watch that, once is enough, not gonna regret wasting your time. Also yea, fuckin pussy ass bitches cant handle gore and shit thats why its "bad". Its not for normies, but since you are here, youll enjoy it.
Nathan Reed
hmmmmm, smell then hot tacos.
Zachary Cook
Keep telling yourself that, newfag.
Robert Green
Not an argument. Keep seething.
Jonathan Long
Still more of an argument than what you had, kiddo. And right back at ya.
Kayden Richardson
The gore's not the problem, it's the constant cringe "humour," non-existent pacing and constant needless swearing. And the fact that there is not a single likeable character. No one gives a fuck about the gore.
Pretty sure people do, they're just purposefully not linking them to deny each other of (You)s
Adam Jones
>107051928 >107051879 >107051876 >107051795
Only real fans could appreciate the reboot. Too lore-heavy. Plebbit would up to your speed considering you found it too problematic.
Henry Brown
Not an argument.
Elijah Young
>107051991 >107052002 Keep seething about it, it gives me life.
Camden Williams
for what purpose? everything's too hard to follow now.
Colton James
Does it even matter? It pretty much became shitpoting the moment people stopped giving any kind of argument beyond "go/return to x" and namecalling.
Kayden Powell
Was there any dabbing in the new movie? Flossing? T-posing? Or, dare I say it, yeeting?
Ayden Thomas
you just don't get it, do you
Oliver Adams
lol give-up tacoboy, it'll never happen.
Joshua Clark
What's there to get? It's not discussion anymore if people can't actually provide points for discussion/argument.
Jonathan James
There was literal T-posing in the post-credits scene.
Gabriel Torres
Enjoy your 15% score. Even Fant4stic was better.
Logan Allen
I had to look up what that was.
Easton Walker
Too much lore from the back end of the epic with none of the proper build up or a coherant sequence. Fuck that shit.
Thomas Rivera
New Hellboy is brilliant, it is gorgeous and awesome. Guro at maximum power with weighing eyes, guts, tearing bodies into pieces, cutting faces. Its very juicy, Deadpool nervously smokes on the sidelines.There are drive rock metal soundtrack, demons, witches, intercourse of the first and second, a bunch of all sorts of creatures, fiery swords. This is what people wanted see in the Doom movie, and not this urine with Rock. For normie, of course, too cruel. Basedboys will look shit about a schoolboy man.
