So can we have a serious discussion about this specifically?

So can we have a serious discussion about this specifically?

Was there any earlier foreshadowing as to why Cassandra would betray Rapunzel specifically? Not just her not being a great friend or even the hand thing. It still feels so sudden and baffling.

Is the implication here that she was evil the entire time and everything she's done or pretended to be was an elaborate con? How does her father play into all of this? Did he know? Is he even her real father? I'm pretty confused.

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Never watched this but she always struck me as a baddie

I do not know, man.

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Literally super saiyan blue

> It still feels so sudden and baffling.

Really? The entire time she felt inferior to others? Couldn't do her job because people around her were changing/ didn't need her help? Got her arm turned into an overcooked carrot that can't he healed? Whatever was going behind the magic shell door?

WE

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Also adding the feeling of being useless in past situations probably pushed her to wanting power.

Why doesn't Rapunzel just rape Cassandra?

What if the sun drop and moonstone originally belonged to Zhan Tiri and just want his shit back? Like a Te Fiti kind of thing.

The foreshadowing happened when Cass entered to the door of the shell house in “Rapunzeltopia”. After she successfully gets out, her personality changes in some extent. Maybe season 3 would explain what happened in that door.

Theory going around is that she was SHOWN SOMETHING

Maybe reasons to hate Rapunzel
Maybe reasons to love Rapunzel and protect her

I kinda wonder about something in that vein. Like the great power in space that was broken resulted in some entity losing two pieces of its body/powers in the event and Zhan Tiri is this lesser being that remains

If she really took the stone because of her selfish desires and ambition, watch as she is easily forgiven and redeemned in comparison to Varian, who acted out of desperation and revenge.
Was she even at Punzie's wedding? I don't remember.

I agree that the door shit would explain or could explain it. But her troubled feelings alone don't cover why she'd even risk grabbing a Death Stone let alone how threatening she is at the very end. If this is a Dark Pheonix, Goddess of Destruction turn she needs more than that to explain a shift to straight-up evil. It's too at odds with her personality.

Almost nobody that's in the series was in the original movie or wedding short

so the question is whether Disney will be reasonable and allow for those differences, or they'll force the new characters to have reasons to be elsewhere

Varian's gonna be fiiiiiiiine my dude

Claiming this thread for best girl.

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stop trying to compare what happen to your glittered turds from Yea Forums
Shaftshit is garbage

My uncle works at Disney they'll remake the short with Cass, Lance, Varian, Adira, and Eugene's dad in the background for a split second

Oh I'm not worried at all, but you betcha i'm gonna call out the double standard if it ends up going in this direction.

A Cassandra who did this just for Power and her ego is far less redeemable than Varian who was trying to do the right thing, fucked up, tried to save his Dad then finally went berserk from despair. But we don't know why Cass did it yet.

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why would it? none of the characters have shown any real hostility towards Varian since his defeat, with Rapunzel still visibly guilty when Adira brings up the memory of Quirin

Even Frederic the most anal man in existence said he was going to try to help Varian rather than just throw him in prison forever

>trusting this woman

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True, maybe I over exaggerated. We'll just have to see where that Cass storyline is going first.

>one female character is a good aligned semi-Goddess figure with positive powers
>dark haired other female character seems to have a thing for her, acts as her protector, keeps getting hurt
>dark haired female character with maybe a vague crush suddenly betrays first good Goddess female character, usurps her role, becomes negative maybe "bad" Goddess and her cosmic opposite, upsetting some fans
>her motivations and morality are ambiguous, so is the new state of their friendship

I mean there are some surface similarities this time. But far more differences obviously and completely different shows and characters in nearly every way.

Was Eugene just standing there while Cassandra snuck up on Ranpunzel? We didn't hear her run or jump.

in my opinion she was somehow corrupted hen her hand was burnt/damaged or that incident left her with some grudge.

Stupid bitch, contain your fucking spoilers. Ot maybe the show is so shit it's not worth the respect Tangled fans dont deserve. Fucking girly cartoons watching faggot.

He was off banging Stalyan in another room.

He was probably dazzled by the lights n shit, I know I was

Also Cass is fast as fuck boiiiii

>Have i ever told you the tragedy of Cassandra the femcel?

Fuck off Hubert, you and your quads

>fall for thot
>get burned

Silly femcel, Rapunzel is for Chad.

Her life this season has just been one prolonged, ever more powerful JUST'ing

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Ostensibly, she feels resentful and wants a turn in the spotlight.

She seems to really want to be recognized as a hero. Maybe she thinks she can fight Zhan Tiri on her own.

Cas is a cunt. Always was.

>jobs to adira
>jobs to hector
>jobs to edmund
>jobs to pretty much everyone in season 2
>wants a round against zhan tiri

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>lmao everyone is turning le evil
This show went to shit pretty fast.

Cass isn't evil lesbians just don't know right from wrong

>1 guy turns evil in season 1
>1 girl turns evil in season 2
that's hardly a big evil turnout.

this is what you get for not fading off the intro correctly for 2 fucking seasons.
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>2 people
>we don't even know what Cass' deal is

Also even if she is, Edmund turned out to be a swell guy so it balances out

I dunno, I think she got the DROP on Hector after finding her feet

Is Cass going to get the Vergil vs Mundus treatment against Zhan Tiri?
>I-If Demanitus can do it then I should be able to do it too! RAAAAAAH- *run over with her sword only to get btfoed*

Makes sense seeing as how the guards in Corona have a hard time catching common thieves and didn't start getting better until Eugene started teaching them.

her hair shouldve been a bluish silver rather than cyan

Oh god. I am so glad I just finished watching the episode. WTF dude. There is a reason for the Spoiler feature, Jesus Crist

But whatever, For her father I guess you mean the Capitan of the Guards, right? Well, she had said before that she was an orphan just like Eugene but she was adopted by The Capitan. So it only left us with what she saw when she was on that weird castle, My guess is that she is from the dark kingdom too and the room shows her the "truth" and that her real father was this evil dude who wanted the moon stone or some shit like that so she is seeking revenge.

I mean it was pretty clear something was going to happen to her by the end since she is never seen when Rapunzel and Eugene get married. The end of the series is promised to be very dramatic.

>both Cass's and Eugene's solos are too good for their episodes
Now that I'm thinking through it again, I'm glad they aren't shitty. Disney has always been great with character songs. Even Sofia the First had some pretty good ones

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>spoiler
Sofia the First had no right having so many good songs.

it has been quite the suffering ride, ain't it?

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Cus black hair means evil dud

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>Was there any earlier foreshadowing as to why Cassandra would betray Rapunzel specifically?
high chance it's a bad case of "the black end is possessing her, the stone is evillllllll and call for a host"

her lipstick needed to turn blue too, or purple.

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aside from the different situations across the series that have caused friction between them, including Rapunzel burning Cassandra's hand?
yes, 3 episodes ago Cassandra entered a magical door and spent the entire episode in there, we as viewers were never told what she saw inside the door but when she exited she seemed very disturbed.

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Cass VS Elsa
Who wins?

We don’t know what power she has. Presumably her outfit is made of black rocks so good armor

Wait, is this the show that has all those animatics made because of that "ready as I'll ever be" song? Does she get her own version of that song? Would be cool.

It’s not evil. Just far too powerful. It needs a controlling force to tame it.

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We barely know anything about Cass's abilities, but we know she can terraform with unbreakable multplying spires and manipulate entropic energy

Assuming Elsa isn't immediately impaled or desiccated, Cass could cut through any defenses Elsa puts up.

reminder cass is now literally naked all the time

CASS PLEASE SIT ON MY FACE ALREADY

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Just like Ashi and her sisters!

where is this from? twitter? tumblr?

youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk

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Eugene can be Gordon and Varian be Harley Quinn

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Is Eugene going to have a pimp ass beard when he gets older too?

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Getting Lich King vibes from this

The piggies... THE PIGGIES!!!

Bruh, what the fuck happened? I lay off the show for awhile and all of a sudden Varian turned evil and now so is Cass.

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cute as fuck

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>for awhile
>varian turned evil
user, you dropped the series over a year ago

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kanazuki no miko was bad then and it's bad now

I was late into the series, started some months ago this year

When's Rapunzel Blanco?

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If you think about it's Raps fault both of the times
probably in next season finale Eugene is going to turn too

end series twist: Raps was always evil and did it on pourpose

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Shit like this is why we need a Disney Princess tier list (Not taking into account any sequels until Frozen 2.) With shit like Tangled, Frozen, and Moana we're at the point where we're just dealing with very cute deities now.

She's covered by black rock armor, she's not naked, she was just naked in her transformation scene.

this thread is a society

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Told you she was gothel's daughter. Even the show did from episode 1.

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1 main character turning villain per reason is ridiculous.

>RAPS LOOK!
>I'm giving a ghost a handjob! Yeeeaaahhhh!
>RAPS LOOK!

not gonna lie, I loved the look on rapunzel's face as she struggled to believe what was happening was real.

How come Rapunzel keeps betraying her friends and pushing them around like they are things? Does she values them so little that they are willing to go rogue?

Every single time someone ends up hating her and leaving her, its because of her own fault.

>this foreshadowing from the beginning of the season

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varian was barely a main character, he physically appeared in like 4 episodes of season 1.

Lol. Lesbians love to see what isn't there and never will be.

She was always doomed by canon anyway. Something was going to happen to Rapunzel's seemingly new bff since she's nowhere to be found in Forever After and probably didn't even exist as an idea yet at that point.

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All that? Rapunzel's fault.
Varian going rogue? Rapunzel's fault.

It's a bit hard to see her as a heroine after all the shit she pushed her friends into.

Literatly this

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Rapunzel is a shit friend.

Finally, Cassandra and Varian can become a couple.

>I fucked up! I FUCKED UP AGAIN! WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?!

she's a dumb teenager who keeps fucking up, I honestly can't be mad because the show has made a really good job portraying her.

>me opening Incognito Mode for the 17th time today
>the fbi agent watching me through the webcam

Can someone give me a quick rundown? What did Rapunzel do to make Cassandra go full edgy? I've been out of the loop with this series.

You can't but I can. I keep myself on a higher standard even when I was a teenager. So, I really cannot imagine why someone would be that stupid.

she burned her hand with death magic and then cassandra went through a door that messed her up somehow

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she stole her spot as best girl in the eyes of the common folk at the kingdom, she made cassandra put her dreams of becoming a royal guard on hold to help her pursuit her own dreams, she stopped taking her advice into consideration, she put the group in risk multiple times because of this, she ended up crippling cassandra

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Was it more like Rex Dangervest, or more similar to a Prince Lotor betrayal+quintessence corruption

She forced Varian to ignore his dad.
She forced Cassandra to forfeit her dreams.

Rapunzel is worst girl.

>Rapunzel is worst girl.
and as such she ends up happily married and eventually becoming a queen.

Varian had a good song

Also Cass is going to be related to Repunzles ‘mom’ from the film

I haven't watched the Lego Movie 2 yet and I kinda dropped Voltron after Season 2 so I can't really tell you

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Varian is the worst little bitch. Why is he so popular?

Okay so it just dawned on me that I'm writing way too much to include it all in a post. I'm not finished yet but does anyone have recommendations for where to post writefag stuff once I'm done? This is my first time doing this so I have no idea.

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looks just like

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Because he's cute apparently despite being an obnoxious little shit. Never liked him just like I never cared for Cassandra despite the writers trying to force her as Rapunzel's new best friend. I'm only here for cute Eugene and Rapunzel scenes.

I'm right there with you, satan, I hate that faggot.

Yes. The irony is painful and cruel. But it is what it is.

Nice try, Satan.
Varian did nothing wrong.

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Going on an adventure to save the world would bring more glory than standing guard in front of important doorways. And deep down Cass knows that.

Everyone would have died if Rapunzel hadn’t used the reverse incantation.

Shut up faggot. He relatable, not perfect but relatable. He was even betrayed by Rapunzel. The person that promised everything. Lying and even then won't do anything and everythkling to help. As seen when she won't let Varian have the flower to free his father.

>The person that promised everything.
There. Right there is the issue with her.

To everyone saying Raps is a shit friend, keep in mind that her issue isn't that she doesn't keep her promises. It's that when the receiving person needs that promise fulfilled the most it's always contradictory to what should be done in the big picture. Yes it's horrible she couldn't be there for Varian, but it was either going over to his house, seeing Quirin encased in the amber and going "Well we've done all we could" after numerous failed attempts, and then they and all of Corona fucking die from the blizzard OR take the mantle as a leader for once and try to save her entire kingdom, no matter how slim the chance was. And as for Cass, Rapunzel admittedly did clown on her a few times. But with things like the hand, what could Raps have done? She was going full eldritch abomination mode and couldn't control it. And let's not act like Cass was a perfect friend either with shit like the memory wand and the challenge of the brave.

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Well actually, the biggest problem people have with Raps concerning Varian, is that she didn't come see what the problem was with Varian's father after the snowstorm. She was too busy with her "art block" issue, and didn't talk with Varian until a few weeks (months?), and even then, he's the one who initiated the contact.

But after the blizzard did she go to help Varian? Of course not, Varian had to get help from her again.

>he's the one who initiated the contact.
Man, she really is kind of a shitty friend.

WHERE IS VARIAN?!

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hanging from a tree to warn other traitors

in ur butt

>Sorry I couldn't be there for your village. Hm? Oh, you mean now? Sorry, my brain can't imagine what fuschia looks like anymore, how about some other time?

Hot.

I'm okay with this.

Ok you've got me there. But in all fairness, when they DID go together, Varian outed himself as the autistic creep he always was.

>the blue hair jobber turns evil/possessed
I see Disney is sticking to its old tropes again.

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like I said in the last thread, I think he got a cameo in eugene's song.
TAKE IT AND BE GRATEFUL

I’m doing a run of Pokemon Y with a Varian themed team. Does this match him, Yea Forums?

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Yeah, cause he was straight up pissed from what he percieved as a omega level betrayal.

>The lesbian turns evil
Based and redpilled after all

Anyone who was not in the short, is doomed.

He needs a ditto, since you know, it can transform into any type of matter, kinda like transmutation in alchemy.

Wasn’t Varian reported missing for months though?

Shit, you're right, I might replace the Umbreon with that.

>lesbian
literally tumblr tier headcanon, as far as this show is considered she might as well be asexual. don't understand the explicit need by fandoms to turn any female character who isn't in an explicit heterosexual relationship into a lesbian.

calm down he's right here

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That's cute as fuck, do you know the artist?

>Maybe reasons to love Rapunzel and protect her

I don't think it's this. Her song "waiting in the wings" boils down to "fuck being the side kick, i wanna be the protagonist". On top of that, when she takes the moonstone, she goes full villain. There's no "im sorry, but its for your own good" or "you just need to trust me". Whatever was shown to her behind that door was probably related to how she could gain power/glory from the stone.

Is this show any good? It sounds stupid af. Sounds like it kind of ruins a lot of what was great about the movie. Why would Eugene's father ever need to be introduced?

That's just a fake, user. An illusion from an idol.

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Was he? I'm pretty sure he spent the rest of his time inside his lab trying to free his father and making his revenge plans. Where else could he have built his mechas and potions?

You can't even prequelmeme right.
>Do you know

No he wasn't. Why do you think his lab was so messy? He was spending all his time trying to free his dad.

It depends user, do you like lorefests?

Fuck off, Satan. Can't wait until the real good guys team up to take down that bitch Rapunzel and her shitty incompetent family and free Corona.

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God I wish

No. That was brought up in the episode where he breaks in to the castle vault to find the sundrop flower. He was missing.

Cass could be bi but I don't think the subtext with Rapunzel is totally unintentional in this case. But she's probably accepted Rapunzel and Eugene are together. Or not? Now I don't really know any more what's going on with her.
He'll get a redemption arc in the last season. He's either going to team up with Rapunzel against Cassandra or team up with Cassandra against Rapunzel. Or if this is a big misunderstand maybe just help save and reconcile them to be redeemed.

user PUT THE GUN DOWN YOU PISSED HIM OFF

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user I rewatched the episode 3 times today because I'm suffering from Varian deprevation and he never said anytning about that.

I like this one as well

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It's only an illusion. WHERE ARE YOU KEEPING THE REAL VARIAN, user?!

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Looking back at the clip that one image of Varian and Cassandra is the only one that has literally no relation to Eugene in any way.
Every other image it's either Eugene with someone, or someone closely related to him like Rapunzel or Lance.
That's weird.

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You were jacking it, weren’t you?

Reminder that what cassandra saw inside the door was all of her disney store merch in the clearance section

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He's with the new Rightful Queen to help her take down the Pretender, Rapunzel because Rapunzel would never love Cassandra back so she'll have to take the Consolation Shota instead .

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N-no...

He's dead, user. I killed him. He has given Corona too much trouble and he created me to end the suffering of his enternal life in solitary confinement. It was the only way to cope for his father. What I plan to do next is to avenge my creator's sorrow and bring an end to the one who screams for his presence.

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Thanks my dude.

Maybe it wasn't that episode but for some reason I DEFINITELY remember them saying something along the lines that he was missing or that they looked all over and couldn't find him.

I-it can't be!

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It obviously means Varian and Cassandra will team up in season 3 and do something horrible to Eugene

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Evil alliance incoming
>"You know I'm a lesbian, right, Varian? Oh well, you sort of look like a girl. We can pretend...let the pegging commence."

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>gothel's daughter

You know what... Cass kept talking about destiny. Gothel was one of the minions seeking the sun-drop. Maybe what Cass saw behind the door was Gothel and just like Eugene picking up his destiny as a protector or whatever, Cass is doing the same with Gothel's path but was told to seek the moonstone.

Don't you know? Any woman that can swing a sword is a raging lesbian.

>Season 3 happens
>Rapunzel is mean to Eugene
>Eugene goes evil too in the S3 finale
>Season 4 is Varian, Cassandra, and Eugene vs Punzie

I'm glad there's more on-screen romantic cute kissing in cartoons. I remember growing up to cartoons where showing kissing was like a taboo. Always interrupted or obscured behind something.

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not a fan of game of thrones but I did like these redesigns

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artist's name is qu-r in tumblr btw

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She was a Femcel tho
those aren't human no matter either gender

>Lived through years of people shipping any guys interacting as gays
>Now living through years of people shipping any girls doing ANYTHING as lesbians

Why can't characters just be characters? I get fandoms will fandom but shoving it so far down the throats of people to the point it effects the show is disheartening. I just want fun adventures and lore.

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In the shows defense, Cass acts pretty gay.
And it's not like people interpret it as Mutual. She's just the sad lonely lesbian pining for the straight girl.

Or maybe she's the daugther of mother Gothel.
Actually, we don't see any of the other characters in the wedding of Raps and Eugene.

thanks

>In the shows defense, Cass acts pretty gay.
This
I also like Frozen but have never thought Elsa was gay, or Oaken, but in this case Cass is just too much sometimes.

>She's just the sad lonely lesbian pining for the straight girl.
That hurts.

>She's just the sad lonely lesbian pining for the straight girl.
Savage, user. Right in the feels.

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> lesbian
Yet she dated a guy

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Bisexual

I wonder if you could get a seven sins list going for all the villains.
Gothel - Greed
Cass - Envy
Varian - Wrath
Edmund - Sloth
Can't think who would be Gluttony, Lust, or Pride though. Maybe Hector for Pride if he comes back next season and is still a baddie.

youtu.be/7_mx-Biv0Cc
>kino song wasted on a conlfict resolved in minutes
Damn shame, probably my favorite song from the show.

Bi makes more sense than straight up lesbo.

I like this. Not many solo sad songs of Eugene.

This makes me miss Varians singing. Dude got some amazing vocals.

It was the absolute BEST kind of bad.

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Pride - Hector
Gluttony - Tromus
Lust - Sugracha

I feel sorry for all the inhabitants of Corona.

so season 3 when

Varian is the new Magnus the Red.

Hopefully we see more echoes to the conflict in season 3.
Not like he resolved his thief/prince conflict. Just pushed it down to help Rapunzel out.

according to eden espinosa not that long but she's only a voice actress so I don't know how much does she know about the production schedule

Next Sunday morning ;_;

>Why can't characters just be characters?
The shipping you mentioned started as just porn and having fun. While some people do just pretend to support things to virtue signal, people who like porn, fun, or just the idea of two characters together still exist, too.

The virtue signalers are all probably abandoning Cass/Raps as we speak as "abusive" which will leave only people fucking around with fun and porn behind.

I'm curious about the show, might give it a watch. Any episodes I can skip without missing anything?

>a season 3 episode is titled "Cassandra's Revenge"

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Power through them all.

Alright Writefag here
Got the old Deviantart up and running
"Octopugilist" if you're interested

>disney+ comes out in 211 days
please please please please please please have tangled

>Cass could be bi
Or get this, maybe she's just a regular female fucking character who doesn't need to be slapped with "lesbian" or "bisexual to pander to mentally ill fucktards like you.

>Whatever was going behind the magic shell door?
Im 90% certain this isnt Cass betraying Raps but Zhan Tiri possessing her.

wut

Evil Cass is my new waifu

Not only is it confirmed (Maybe not right at launch, but confirmed nonetheless), but it's probably our best bet to save the series if we can spam the viewer stats

Anyone have a webm of Cassandra going SS Blue?

Varian is going to be redeemed and heal Cassandra

don't know how else to share it because I can't upload webms with audio so here's a sauce to tumblr
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she just said soon, they always say soon
that means NOTHING

No. I want Varian to stay evil and broken. I want him to grow up into a proper full time Disney villain.

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>Cass and Varian Columbine throughout Corona

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i want varian and cassandra to get together and become codependent!

>black rocks jutting out of her skin and turning into a suit of armor
is she invincible now

"Cassandra's Revenge" is a mid-season two-part episode

833T 313/314 Two production codes Eden Espinosa must've been excited to record something in it that she had to hype and share

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A cover of the Hurt incantation, in case someone else likes it too:
youtube.com/watch?v=2IiVSRWdmnM

what about adira's rock cutting sword material?

She was straight curius and then went full dyke.

Post it here faggot it's not illegal.

Neat but too much auto-tune.

That means at the very least Cass will still be evil/possessed/jealous/replaced by midseason so I doubt she turns good anytime soon In fact, I'm almost absolutely positive she kills Edmund, it's the only way to explain why he isn't at the wedding unless he dies otherwise

Fuck don't. Don't spam it here.

Yea Forums jannies usually delete writefaggotry

You people know they can just retcon the wedding into having characters from the show, right?

I'd be surprised if they do it.

This. Stuff like that is a downward spiral into turning these threads into a shitty genera with a shitty niche.

even some of the boarders get into it and Cass's VA apparently

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yikes

she was literally honeytrapping that guy

You know what? Fine. All men are gays. All women are lesbians.

To hell with it all. Let them get it out of their system.

>I'm gonna force my views!

Well now I'm glad Cass is leaving for good at the end of the series.

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This

So no fan content can be here?

>Pride
Rapunzel. The devil's favorite.

Why not make them all bi

we're reaching anime levels with this disney princess show that shouldn't be possible.

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Fan art seems to be ok since it's usually from everywhere and this is an image board after all.

More like lust~ Heh

You're taking this very personally that this one character who acts pretty gay is considered kinda gay.
It's not like people are saying everyone is gay. Pretty much everyone else in the show is happily accepted to be straight.

Dude, shut the fuck up and suck a dick like everyone else.

How long until the next season? :'(

Not that user but this view is plagued pretty much in a LOT of cartoons in Yea Forums. Like seriously over-saturating to the point straight people are becoming rare or hated if you like them that way. It's getting ridiculous.

I saw other boards with a lot of writefaggotry and even threads dedicated to them, I thought you could do it in any board.
And in the reportable stuff list has no writing.

Nothing saying when it's restarting yet. My guess is at least the end of the year

About half a year to 3 years.

sometimes drawfags get banned and their posts deleted. Posting art from anywhere else is usually not an issue

Well you can go ahead and gamble.

People hated gays for a long time, like when they hated black people we are in a time of change where black mediocre movies win oscars and straight character will be censored to give their place to the homosexual master race. May the gay god bless us all.

"Queer" and "wlw" could and probably does just mean bisexual to whatever degree here though.
The show says jack fucking shit about anyone's politics or even sexuality (not political or about "views" by the way). Some people making the show are bi so their personal experiences shape the show like they always do and that's it. I know this is going to shock you but many humans are just a little bit bisexual and they just plain write from experience, every single creator does. Calm the fuck down. There's no views, agenda, forcing or any fucking shit going on, you're just paranoid.

The only drawfags I've ever seen get deleted are those who didn't know /aco existed.

>straight people are becoming rare or hated
This is some next level crazy fucking shit. No they aren't you psychopath.

Well, gamble dude. I think you will be fine as long as you don't go turbo autist in your writing.
The janitors can't be that salty.

That's fine but god damn make up new characters that are gay from the start and stop shoving the agenda down pre-existing ones.

>The janitors can't be that salty.

You'll be surprised.

But Cass is a new character. She was invented for the show, played by Eliza since her conception.
What are you even complaining about? That her first scene wasn't her shoving her tongue down a scullery maid's throat?

I've done it before in a previous thread and was asked to set up a Fanfiction account. Only reason I'm shilling.

If you want I can post it, but it's been copy pasted in every Tangled thread for the last three days.

Then why didn't they show her dating a girl instead of that man-bun guy?

Homosexuality is like a dormant cancer user, you don't know when it will awake.
Out of the blue they can make characters like Brock Samson from Venture Bros. gayer than Shore Leave.

>That's fine but god damn make up new characters that are gay

Oh fuck, you mean like, say, a brand new best friend that's an entirely new character for a tv series?

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Nigga, no one's forcing their views. Cassandra is neither gay nor straight. She's a drawing. It's just that the fans and crew have noticed that her being gay for Rapunzel kinda explains some of her actions.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality

You either havent been here long or havent been paying attention. Quality drawfags have been getting banned for doing completely SFW and pure art

I remember that in a writefag thread they post the stories in the thread and they post the links to the pastebin/fanfiction and so in the begining and at the end of the story/chapter/so on.

Bi I'm ok with. It's the whole "SHE'S A LESBOOOOOOO AND NOTHING ELSE" thing.

Is queer "only likes same sex" or is it a catchall term for nonheteronormative sexual orientation.

I always thought it was a slur.

Asked by who?

It's the latter. It hasn't been a slur for a long time.

Maybe the mods are drunk with their own power and get salty with anyone that draws something they don't like no matter if it is quality SFW.

>Quality drawfags have been getting banned for doing completely SFW and pure art

If there's a janitor floating around I like to know why.

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This sounds reasonable. I had my posts repeatedly deleted from a pissy janitor for pointing out a power trip.

If Disney wanted to be save this show and test out different launch strategies for their programming for Disney+, they could always drop the whole season there in one go and promote the show there as well on the splash screen like Netflix does for things like Dragon Prince or their other shows. But I'm pretty sure they're just trying to kill it since they caught on that Chris and his crew have been making a (Mouse forbid) genuine passion project with the company's infinite money hoards instead of something more appealing to the masses of typical cartoon fan wallets.

Can we talk about the show again or post more super saiyan Cass fan art?

Maybe they are more autistic than all of us together and think that Yea Forums doesn't need writefags or drawfags. Only text discussion.
We can't user, we may get banned.

Nah user. We're gonna be like SVTFOE, SU, or any other horrible thread in Yea Forums and bitch all day, ship all day, and throw fetishes around.

As the door shut behind her, Cassandra took in her surroundings. She stood at the entrance to Lost Lagoon.
'Too good to be true,' she thought, as she ventured into the cove, she heard splashing and giggling. She stopped as her foot caught something. A discarded violet dress.
Rapunzel splashed in the shallows, all grins and giggles. She lit up when she saw Cass and charged over to her, shamelessly nude.
"There you are Cass!" She beamed, taking Cass' withered hand. "The water is SO lovely!"
"I-I can't," Cass stammered, her face turning red as she turned away.
"You can't swim? Don't worry, I'll teach you," Rapunzel crooned as she pawed at Cass' shirt. "Let's get this off so it doesn't get WET!"
"Rapunzel, no! St-stop it! You're... YOU AREN'T REAL!"
Rapunzel froze and dropped her hands from Cass's shirt. Slowly, her expression unreadable, she leaned in and softly, so softly kissed her cheek. Her warm breath tickled her ear as she whispered.
"You're a sharp one. I like that."

Suddenly, Cass was in the palace kitchen, mountains of dirty dishes in front of her. Her shirt was still wet from Rap's hands.

"Cassandra, what are you doing?" Old Lady Crowley voice interrupted her thoughts. "You can't wash dishes with that hand of yours!"
"What? Don't try to trick me, I know you're not-"
"Hush, we've already established that. I'll wash, you dry." She pulled up a stool and put her hands in the suds. Cass robotically picked up a towel.
"Who are you?" She demanded, with all the force she could muster as she wiped down a plate she was handed. It was the finest china. The Coronation china.
"There are so many names," Crowley mused as she polished a stubborn spot on a salad fork. "But Xhan Tiri will suffice. What is it you want, Cassandra?"
"What?"
"What is it you want out of life? Love, respect, power? Everybody wants something," she crooned as she pulled a sword out of the foam. "I'll dry this one Cass, Lord knows you can't handle swords anymore."

Cass shook her head clear and saw the dimly lit armory. Her father stood at attention, staring straight ahead.
"Try the bastard sword," he demanded, not even looking as she pathetically try to swing it. Her withered hand had no strength, her healthy one no finesse. She'd seen peasants shovel pig shit with more grace. "Try the hand-and-a half, the rapier, the claymore, mace, flail, axe, shortsword!" He rattled off everything in the armory.
"I can't," she croaked hoarsely. She felt her eyes burn.
"Try the dagger then," he sneered, his features taking on Fitzherbert's. "That's a woman's weapon. Though I can't tell if you wanna put it in Blondie's back or cut her out of her clothes with it!"

She was back with the caravan, they'd stopped for the night. Fitzherbert and Raps cuddled sickeningly by the fire.
"Envy is a green-eyed monster Cass. All the monsters in your life have green eyes, don't they?" Shorty burbled as he sat up from the dirt.
"I'm not jealous of them!" she spat, turning away from them. They were doing a lot more than cuddling now.
"That's not what I said."Shorty slurred, stumbling to sit next to her. Envy is wanting what others have. Jealousy is having something and being afraid to lose it. And you... have nothing to lose."

Didn't you already post this? You just want (You)'s don't you?

Stop spamming this. This is why these threads are becoming shit.

I thought you had something new. You already post this.

I told you I've already have
There's a lot of reasons these threads are shit.

But it's a bitch to paste these anyway

>all this time there were theories about Moon Varian and Moon Eugene
>But never Moon Cassandra

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She was never thought special enough

Because it wasn't as interesting and it still isn't

They knew we knew plan A and B. They went with plan C.

What if it was Moon Lance?

Moon Eugene turned out to be kinda right, no?

Mmmm... kinda

He is Prince of the Dark Kingdom

the world was not ready

Moon Shorty

Cassandra kinda stole what belongs to Eugene by birthright when you think about it.

I hope he bocemos a villain in season 3 and get slain by Eugene in the most heartbreaking scene of the show.
Maybe shorty will become a chaos servant or maybe he is a magical and insane creature with a great insight that causes his insanity.

Moon Lance is too beautiful for this world.

>Adira will never crush your head between her thighs
Why live

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>Varian going rogue? Rapunzel's fault.
I'd rather blame the writers making Rapunzel act out-of-character. There was nothing stopping her from going after Varian immediately after the snowstorm. Nothing. And yet, she sat on her ass. God damn it, writers.

>There was nothing stopping her
status quo

I got the impression she was blocked from seeing him because he had a freakout and had to be escorted out

With such power he can rid the world of spiders.

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Most likely. She had to stress to the guards Varian was not attacking her afterwards.

Also he sneaked in to see her didn't he? I assume he tried to get in normally but that wouldn't have happened if what you're saying was the case. Of course this wouldn't have been an issue at all if they just wrote her to see him earlier reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Bare in mind that originally Queen for a Day was intended to air as the 11th episode, not 16th... Making Rapunzel an even bigger bitch.

It's ok Lance

>Everything I've yearned for/Everything I planned
>All my sweetest memories were castles made of sand
This one got me good. It's not even like I relate to his situation much but this line just hits hard.

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So is Cass controlling the black rocks now?

Yes

Mostly the later, unless you're talking to someone old enough to have been involved in the gay rights movement at its peak. A lot of them still take issue with it.

Reminds me of Coldplay's Viva La Vida.

One minute I held the key
Next the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castles stand
Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand

She probably has control over them along with anything else the Moonstone Opal can do, yes

>the hand that Rapunzel withered is blue now
>so are lines leading to Cassandra's blue heart

Really activates the almonds.

so now that rapunzel and cass are the sun and moon drops, what happens if they touch each other?

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They go Gogeta

if they have sex it causes an eclipse

I wonder where will Season 3 take place
Season 1 was Corona
Season 2 was one long road trip

check PornHub for the answers you seek my friend

>8 1/2 pages of fanfic
>12:30 AM
>still not satisfied enough
Goddamn writefagging is hard. I need sleep. You fuckers better have a thread up tomorrow because by God I did not spend 12 hours + however more are needed to finish this just for it to sit on my computer. I don't even care about grammar at this point I just want to finish

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and then they can only be defeated by Shorty, which is actually Lance Blanco Calvo con Barba from the future.

>tfw never write fanfic but thinking now of unironically writing a story where Rapunzel apologies to Moon Cassandra for breaking her heart

Fuck this series

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dude, make a pastebin so it doesn't get lost in the threads.

I'm not finished yet I still need to connect two scenes and finish one. I'll post it in a pastebin once I'm done

They fuse and become the Summer Witch, which is the Snow Queen's sister in some versions of the tale, and then they go play the bad guy in Frozen 2.

I'll bet Season 3 will take us back to Corona

Sad betrayed punzie is the best

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>Cass VS Elsa
>Who wins?

They don't fight. They go out to drink and sob because tfw no gf and bitch about evil princess whores who won't date them. They accidentally destroy a few towns along the way.

Weaponized /r9k/ feelz are terrifying.

This could have been avoided with a single pity fuck

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you think she realizes it's all her fault or is she too distracted by the betrayal itself?

That means Varian!

>Corona...
>Home...
>Least it was before I fucked it all up

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corona to deal with varian and cass

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hive mind

Imagine evil Cass taking advantage of Varian's boner for her to manipulate him into doing her bidding.

that's literally what's going to happen but my guess is Varian's redemption will come from betraying Cass.

Fuck off pressed retards, lesbo Cass is here to stay, memes or otherwise.

Hive mind? I know nothing of the sort! Now how about we look at that mirror over there...

Love that face. I wonder if she realizes it's all her fault.

We Kid Icarus now

Cass promises to free Varian's father and doesn't deliver.

Why the fuck would she need his help now when she's got all that power (probably)?

RAPS DID NOTHING WRONG
VARIAN AND CASS ARE JUST SEETHING AUTISTS
WATER IS WET

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the only down side of having Cass as a villain is she'll probably have way less screen time over the season compared to regular party members.

maybe she wants to raise an army and thinks the automatons are a fine solution, considering they could only defeat them with the rocks, which she now controls.

But that means we're getting a god tier villain song too so that balances it out

Rapunzel is the worst friend to have because she's not inherently malevolent. She's selfish and ignorant of other people's emotions. Traits all sociopaths possess. Varian and Cassandra chose to help her out of their own goodness, traits that Rapunzel exploited for her own benefit while completely unaware of how much it was costing them to care for her.

That's why they couldn't tell her how much of a jerk she is to her face, they felt guilty due to her upbringing so they kept helping her, all while piling up resentment every time she let them down.

Since they were guilt tripped into accepting she wasn't at fault, the anger built up until they exploded and drove them both to insanity. Meanwhile Rapunzel went on her merry way to pursue whatever picks her fancy.

To reach her destiny, she will gladly step on the corpses of her followers, using them to build a stairway to her dream. She will offer her friends and lover to unspeakable horrors on a whim, all while keeping that smile on her face.

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Are you kidding? We'll probably get way more focus on her now that she'll be a new antagonist. There were times in this season that she just dropped off the face of the earth
also that

thank you for writing this m8.
I like her portrayal a lot but still think she is just the worst person in the group, worst friend and worst girl.

>We'll probably get way more focus on her now that she'll be a new antagonist.
She'll get a ton of screen time during perhaps the first couple episodes and then we'll only catch up to her during plot episodes. Now, how many fucking plot episodes does a season from this series have? Very fucking few, that's how many.

I think that exactly like Lord Demantius, Varian's science ("alchemical") engineering uses for the "magic shit" like the drop and stone are potentially limitless. He's not ready yet but it presents new possibilities for innovations no one has achieved before. What role he'll actually have to play isn't clear, though. It would make a certain amount of sense for them to team up against Corona, but he also tried to kill her. But does this new Cass (if it's even Cass) care about that or anything else any more? And might Varian fight against her instead in an echo of the past? Or maybe they'll all team up to fight the real big bad?

Shilling my theory from last thread

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I'd believe it and her leaving to do her own thing will probably actually happen. BUUUUUT she sounded pretty fuckin evil with those last lines.

losing the cape was a mistake

Those black stones are crazy strong. Probably strong enough to break the amber.

>Eugene auto combo Raps into an unblockable whirlwind attack
>Raps slide and kiss is an instant full recovery
Nerf when? Princess Fighter 9000 is literally unplayable now.

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As a joke

I like it but I agree she suddenly sounds sinister af at the end

>Entire character is built from the ground up as a sidekick, even her title is basically "sidekick"
>All of this season, hell, a good chunk of the last one too, deals with her inferiority complex and wanting to be more important
>Ends up becoming the moonstone, the exact opposite of Rapunzal
I didn't see it coming, but it makes a ton of sense when it did.
Also, she has the exact same eye and hair colour as Gothel, I'd say it's probably not a coincidence.

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>they removed shrek swamp madness from EVO for this shit.

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>Cass transforms
>Eugene say something like: "oookay and I bet now you want to take over the world and destroy everything?"
>Cass puts on a serious face and a calm posture
>"No, why would I do that? I just wanted to be all mighty and powerful"
>Raps and Eugene looks at her with doubt
>Cass: "Fine. I kind of wanted to originally... but if the princess agrees to become my ever loving companion I will let the world go."

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Damn, evil Cass would have been better with long hair, especially because she didn't have a cape.

>have to play Elsa&Anna to counter this shit
>EVO is a borefest now because solo girls can't compete with duos now
Being an Alice main is suffering.

ah the todd howard approach i see

Why fucking azure hair tho

Silver/crimson/white much better

>Cass
>Armor
>Thicc ass

Muh dic

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how long until S3 how much time do I have to catch up?

Months really

and here comes the fan art

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is there a gif of this head turn

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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

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So.....pure.....

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>Raps is the sun
>Eugene is(was) the moon
>the sun and the moon needs to unite to bring peace
>now Cass is the moon
Raps has to take one for the team and make hot sweaty love with Cass.

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>(drunken slurring) hey baybee im the moon and your sun get behind me n lets make a beautiful eclipse together

Did they ever give a shit about anything the Disney channel did in the shows in relation to the theatrical releases?

kek

Shit like autistic posturing over who’s waiting is better?

>So, I really cannot imagine why someone would be that stupid

I’m sure growing up relatively alone with no people your age to learn how to socialize leaves you a little socially retarded.

It’s not that rapunzel is actively fucking up, people jut expect her to understand their problems when it’s a miracle she even knows how to look people in the eye.

Season 1: Varian betrays Rapunzel Season 2: Cassandra betrays Rapunzel Season 3: her parents betray Rapunzel Season 4: Flynn betrays Rapunzel Season 5: Pascal betrays rapunzel Season 6: Griffith betrays Rapunzel Season 7: Joseph Stalin betrays Rapunzel Season 8: Rapunzel betrays Rapunzel

A lesbian invented the term incel. Making it feminine is unnessessary.

>destiniescollide.flac

Hookfoot got a gf.

How the fuck did this turn into a gay thread again? Cass is for Varian. Go away fags.

RapsxCass is more supported by canon than VarianxCass was ever.

My ship doesn't need to have any suppprt in canon. I mean isn't that how fans have been getting show creators making their gay ship canon?

We've been posting in the threads before Varian was even introduced in the show. You go away.

The show's storyboarders admitted to making her as gay as possible.

>consolation shota
My life has been shit, I'm a girl with short hair who likes weapons, and I've gotten exactly zero of these.

>dates a guy specifically to stop him from commiting crimes
>never kissed him
>didn't want anyone to know
>"yet she dated a guy"

Things keep getting snatched away from Punzie.

>being this triggered over a fictional character having a crush

That's what I said initially but I changed my mind.

Rapunzel has a compulsive need to help everyone and everything. This is both a product of her naturally kind and agreeable disposition, but also her childhood truama. Gothel would lose her mind if Punzie ever rocked the boat. To her, keeping people happy is not just a personal preference but also necessary for survival. This is why she acts so autistic about Monty. She can't have people hating her because she cares deeply what others think and when she was in the tower being hated meant eating gruel for a month and isolated.

This is bad because, as queen, Punzie is going to have to piss people off because you have a finite kingdom with equally finite resources. A good monarch can try and keep everyone happy but have to accept they eventually won't.

Enter Varian. He's a nice kid Punzie liked a great deal. She lets him down - for a very good reason, I might add - but still feels terrified of the fallout. She might have had good reason but the consequences were dire. She's never pissed anyone off this badly before.

Needless to say, Punzie is terrified. She avoids Varian because she could barely handle minor dislike from Monty or Gothel for reasons as petty as redesigning the seal or asking to see lanterns. Now she has to explain to her friend why, from a utilitarian perspective, it was ethical she let his dad die.

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You are wondering why is a supported ship more popular than a non supported one.

I'm fine with asexual because I'm a degenerate who gets off on both but the girls act too friendly. I'm saying too friendly because I barely interacted with women in my life and the ones I know are very reserved towards each other. So girls hugging and touching each other all the time could be normal but it is too much for me. As for the need of putting girls in a relationship, yeah it is a bad habit of people. I'm guessing because women put a great focus on it in general.

Continuing on Rapunzel and Varian:

Is it right? Nope. Does it make sense? Oh yeah. And the great thing is we see that Rapunzel has learned her lesson albeit Varian was the price for that lesson.

Throughout season 2 Rapunzel has been repeatedly offered chances to relinquish responsibility (and thus any position of power where she disappoints and hurts others), and yet she insists she has to move forward anyway.

We see this with Cass. Cass throws a temper tantrum because Raps isn't the naive little ingenue fresh from the tower, but a Queen coming into her own. She complains Raps "stopped trusting (her) judgement". Raps is upset Cass is upset but sets her straight. Being Queen means making decisions and mot everyone is going to be happy all the time. If Cass was given special treatment it would be unfair to Raps' subjects and cripple her ability to make good decisions as a leader. And what do you know - Raps was right! Adira was helpful and the only reason Cass said otherwise was because she was bitter about being second fiddle to a sexy Amazon.

The epitome of this occurs in Rapunzeltopia. Raps gets a world where she makes no one mad. Her tad is perpetually delighted. She doesn't reject Eugene's proposal. She even doesn't have to feel bad about Big Nose and Freiborg since they're hooked up! Note that, despite only appearing in the storyboards, the description for this episode includes the phrase "a world where Varian never happened".

And that's because, despite not appearing, Varian is key to this episode. He is the instance where Raps realises she doesn't need to be afraid of pissing people off, and that running away from upseting others is only going to make things worse. She needs to do her best as queen, and try to explain her motivations rather than acquiescing, fleeing, or retreating.

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>She avoids Varian because she could barely handle minor dislike
Fuuuu.
This.
So much this.
I'm a pleaser and rather severed ties with long time friends than face them again about things that might have offended them.

Fuck it, I feel like doing more analysis. To answer the OP :

Cass' character is defined by her ambition, and it's what juxtaposes her from Raps and Eugene and alligns her character with Varian, a character who highlights this attribution.

All Cass wants is to be a great, recognised warrior. In the confines of Corona society, this means being a palace guard. Cass expresses this multiple times:
>the S1 games episode where she faces off against warriors
>Great Expotations where she obsesses over getting guard duty
>the entirety of Waiting in the Wings
>the Valentines' day episode
>Fitzgerbert PI
>her anger at Adira
Cass wants to be a hero.

A common thread here is that Cass resents anyone that gets in the way of her status as hero. In the games episode,
>Cass shoots arrows
>crowd of kids appear, cheering
>Cass smiles
>realizes that the children are cheering for Princess Rapunzel and not her
Cass is furious about this. She is so unbelievably mad that Raps is stealing the limelight that she REMOVES RAPS' WEAPON FROM THE CART DURING THE MELEE. Raps could have - at worst - been seriously injured because she had no weapon and at best was looking at a crushing defeat. Thankfully, Cass has a change of heart and helps Raps. Despite this small redemption, Cass doesn't admit the truth to Raps. Rapunzel just thinks Cass was being a cunt all day (which she was) and says she's sorry oblivious to the fact her friend just put her physical safety in jeopardy because said friend is an attentionwhore.

In "Fitzherbert, PI", we see Cass relishing the prospect of Eugene failing guard training. She likes to think she's the tough one.

In fact, a lot of Cass' antagonism towards Eugene could be a product of jealousy. Eugene, like Cass, is an orphan. Unlike Cass, Eugene goofed around living as a thief for years, then stumbled ass backwards onto the princess and got to become a hero after years of humiliating her father and his men.

Cont'd

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Cass, on the orher hand, worked her ass off every singlr day and did what she was told (put a pin in this!!!) and she got fuck all. I'm sure Cass' feelings aren't entirely selfish. She comments on aspects of Eugene's behaviour that do make him a bad future monarch and boyfriend. In Queen for a Day she calls him out on ordering servants around for laughs (probably because she IS a servant). These are fair criticisms. However, just because Cass may have some good reasons to dislike Eugene, that does not mean all of her vitriol towards him is justified. Cass clearly has a chip on her shoulder where Eugene is concerned and is a cunt to him for basically no reason a good portion of the time. Cass is blunt to most people, but with Eugene it's a little much. This suggests she's mad about something else and jealousy over his dumb luck at being the deuteragonist of Tangled seems reasonable.

Finally - Adira. Adira triggers Cass so fucking bad she begins to replicate her jealous, petty pattern of behaviour with Eugene now in over drive.

Cass does not initially dislike Adira. That's because when Adira first appeared, it wasn't Cass' role she was taking over, but Eugene's. In the forest episode, Adira makes Eugene look like a laughingstock. This is also the episode where Cass says that she likes this lady!

Then the mid-season special comes along. Adira is no longer infringing on Eugene's role in the group, but Cass'. Now suddenly Cass has a fucking problem. Now Adira can't be trusted. Now she needs to lip off exactly the same way she did in season 1 to Eugene. Now Cass wants a fucking fight.

Cont'd...

Yep, I've struggled with this a lot too, user. I think people are a little too "logical" when discussing potential plot holes and forget genuine human awkwardness. This is why I love Tolkien. Fucking Frodo pisses around the Shire procrastinating before setting off in Fellowship. Classic.

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It is so clear that Cass' problem is not that Adira is a threat to Raps or the mission but to her that is the problem. Cass then formulates an excuse to justify her dislike. Just like with Eugene, these reasons aren't wrong. Just like how Cass had a point about Eugene being a dick in Queen for a Day, she has a point about Adira; they don't know her and she could be a threat. My point her is not that Cass' objections are wrong in of themselves, but that they come not from skepticism but jealousy.

A real life example would be a friend that you get into political arguments with. Whenever they find a study that supports their POV, they accept it blindly. Whenever they find something that disagrees, suddenly they're clambering for citations and want to sift through the methodology. The criticisms your friend comes to about the latter study may be completely rational and valid. Maybe the sample size was too small. Maybe the alpha value was too big and all encompssing. Maybe Eugene shouldn't boss servants around. Maybe Adira should be treated with caution. But you know your friend isn't scouring your citations because they are guided by the true light of reason - they're doing it because they don't want to be wrong! Likewise, Cass' hyper-skepticism of Eugene in S1 and Adira in S2 is a rational thing that comes from an irrational place.

Cass sings a whole song about how inadequate Adira makes her feel just to emphasise how illogical her actions are. Angry over Eugene and Adira, Cass lashes out at Rapunzel. Put a pin in that, too!!! What we're seeing thus far is that Cass wants to be a hero and is hostile to anyone who threatens her role.

Another thing about Cass is that she doesn't have much in her life besides being a warrior. Her only friends are Raps, Eugene, Varian, and the S2 crew. What's significant here is that, besides Varian, all of these friends are a direct product of her relationship with Rapunzel.

Cont'd...

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Cass' lack of other priorities is spelled out in the Valentines' episode. By the way Raps and Eugene act, this is Cass' first boyfriend... and it turns out to be a ruse. The only time we see Cass doing something besides aspiring to be a guard or hanging around Rapunzel...it turns out she's actually still trying to be a guard and also ends up hanging around Rapunzel. Cass is the sort of person who is more likely to be behind a crazy spy scheme to protect Corona than to go on a date with a boy. She's 23. Think about what that says about her internal emotional life. "Workaholic" doesn't even begin to cover it.

So Cass wants to be a hero. Hates anyone who interferes. Has nothing going on in her life besides work.

Enter Rapunzel. Why does Cass fixate so much on her? Well, part of it is her job - she is her lady in waiting. Another part is she is Cass' first true friend. However, a good proportion of it is that Raps is the only one who gives Cass the validation she craves.

When Raps leaves the tower, Cass is the coolest chick ever. She's a laid back warrior woman who always gets things done and is totally in control. Cool, confident, mature - everything Raps is not. She oggles over Cass, proclaiming that she's "just like a big sister".
>SISTER ZONED

Yeah, Cass was pissed that Raps stole the attention away at the games, but Raps was still like a little puppy. She only did it because she wanted to hang out with her cool big sister best pal and be just like her. Sure, Cass doesn't get the cheers from the crowd, but she gets one particularily adoring fan to compensate.

Cass gets to play at being the big shot hero whenever she's with Rapunzel. However, that changes as Raps matures and develops. The real devastating thing about the S2 mid season special isn't getting cucked by Adira but Raps leaving the nest. Rather than being happy her friend is growing up, Cass is mad she isn't hanging on her every word / judgement.

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I really like this reasoning. Maybe because I am so Cass?

>betrayed
She did that herself.

>lesbo Cass isnt canon, memes or otherwise.

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So Cass wants to be a warrior, dislikes anyone who overshadows her, has little else in her life and is dependent upon Rapunzel's adulation.

We've also Cass sacrifice others for her own ambition. The games episode shows her screwing over Raps. However, the most obvious example is her treatment of Varian in Great Expotations.

In Great Expotations, we get a microcosm of what Cass does at the end of S2. Like Rapunzel, Varian is a less mature person who idolizes Cass. Although a touch annoying, their over-eagerness to help eventually aids Cass in such a way they earn her fondness. Despite the fact that Varian hauled ass all day for her sake and made it possible for Cass to reach her dream, she betrays him at a moments notice.

Cass realizes she fucked up and says to Varian:
>"Thanks. And, Varian, about putting my own ambition in front of our friendship, I'm sorry."

This is one of the most important lines in the series with regards to Cass' character. Despite saying this, when Varian turns evil, Cass doesn't check up on him. She doesn't question maybe there's something going on. She relishes the chance to lead the charge on him. We now know she is exactly the kind of person who would stab someone in the back to advance her own career. She has done it before twice and she will do it again.

Cass betrayed Varian after this perfect husbando little boy with a big crush on her worked all day for her sake alone. How do you think she's going to treat someone who has prioritized their own destiny over hers...
>"This trail of black rocks is your destiny, but I dropped everything to make sure you get to the end of it! I'm taking this seriously!! Why aren't you!?"
...caused her to lose function in her arm...
>"You did this to me Rapunzel!"
...and no longer consoles her with doggish affection?
>"When did you stop trusting my judgement?"

Cass has screwed over her friends for less.

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To be perfectly honest Varian was never really her friend and everthing he did for her was out of his own volition and because he crushed on her. She didn't owe him anything.

I really enjoyed your analysis!

>Cry more you lonely lesbian.

>a fictional character having a non existant crush

Dont you know user? Women love stereotypes and if any girl acts remotely boyish, she is a dyke.

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So why did Cass do it?

As several people pointed out, something happened behind that door. However, I disagree with the posters who argue that Cass is possessed or "isn't herself". It's emotionally cheap writing. Rapunzel fighting someone with whom she has emotionally bonded to is way more effective than her fighting a stranger, and those rules apply if that stranger wears Cassandra's skin. Besides the fact that the writing would be shit, I feel that these posts have proven that it is foreshadowed and well within Cass' personality to betray people.

I do not think that Cass, as some argued, is doing this "for" Rapunzel. Eugene's line about the traitor trying to help Raps was clearly foreshadowing his own behaviour. We know how someone acts when they betray their friend for reasons they think of as right - Eugene did it. They get sad, quiet, and downcast. Eugene was trying to help Rapunzel and he looked miserable the whole time. Cass at the end of the episode sounds far too giddy, sarcastic and smug to be doing it "for Rapunzel". She's doing it for herself.

I didn't expect people to read it, haha. Don't feel bad, I have a crush on Varian because I am Varian. Romantically rejected failed scientist who disappoints everyone.

>never really her friend
Not as close as Raps, no. But he was her friend. All he ever did from day 1 was try to help her.

>because he crushed on her
Why do people do things for anybody? We do things for people because we want them to be our friends / SOs. Varian liked a girl and tried to get her to like him back by being nice to her. I think that's a wonderful perspective to have.

>didn't owe him anything
I agree in that women do not owe men (or in this case, boys) who are kind to them romantic affection or sex. However, Varian was kind to Cass and she made him a promise that she would help him. He was entitled to her assistance and a reciprocation of his kindness.

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Stay pressed

what if, hear me out guys, what if she is zhan tiris daughter.

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I think that, while behind the door, Cass was told she could have everything she always wanted if she gets the moonstone. Her arm is fixed, she gets magic hair powers, and her skin becomes unbreakable armor. Her pettiness was likely validated - Raps and Eugene were spoiled whereas she suffered and earned her happy ending. All of these things have calcified Cass' frustration and convinced her she is now entitled to the power of the moonstone to compensate for her previous troubles.

I also believe that Cass' injury was not limited to her arm. As Eugene points out, it's really fucking weird to be crawling across a gorge in armor. Cass was not making a fashion statement (armor is so last Fall anyway!), she was trying to cover up the fact that the scarring has spread throughout her body.

I believe this to be the case for three reasons. First, is that it explains Cass' refusal to remove her armor under any circumstances. Secondly, I think it is the push she needs to betray Rapunzel. It isn't just that she lost her arm - when that first happened Cass was still determined to be a hero by training her other arm and did make some progress. It's not just her arm anymore, Cass is slowly losing everything and now she is completely desperate. She's not facing inconvenience or setbacks - she has dealt with that - she's dealing with death or encasement in a fashion not unlike that of Quirin.

Finally, I think it makes symbolic sense. Cass' jealousy, ambition, and envy has been slowly engulfing her and hardening her heart to the people around her. The rocks are swallowing the world. The scar is climbing up Cass' arm and will swallow her whole. Gothel used the power of sundrop to fight off the corrosive power of time. Cass uses the moonstone to fight off the trauma of injury.
It's a perfect metaphor and parallel. It's like pottery.

>non EXISTENT
I think you mean "a crush supported by the cast and crew".

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owl saw everything

I'm not saying there's anything wrong in wanting to impress Cass, but at the same time she didn't owe him anything because of that.

Also it pains me to say it but I enjoy the show much more without Varian. I think it's more cohesive this way. I'm just so allegric to kid geniuses in fiction.

If it means I can hate you more. Then so be it.

8 / end

So what will happen to Cass? My theory is that, like Varian, she will eventually be redeemed because this is a Disney show. I'm not exactly sure how.

One final point I want to make is that the series draws comparisons between Cass and Varian which juxtaposes them with Eugene and Raps.

Cass and Varian want to be admired by people. Cass sings about wanting cheers during "Waiting in the Wings", a song that relies heavily on theater conventions regarding center-stage. Varian wants his town, but especially his father, to regard him as the one who "saved the day" and to "come back triumphantly".

Raps and Eugene never sought adulation. Raps dream was to "see the glowing lanterns dream". Eugene's dream is Rapunzel herself - having a family and a home. Raps and Eugene have never sought power or prestige over others. All they have ever wanted are the simple things in life - a fun night of lantern gazing, someone to love them.

I'm not sure where the show is going with this, but I find it interesting nonetheless. The similarity between "Waiting in the Wings" and "Let Me Make You Proud" - Great Expotations even alludes to this!
>"Dads, am I right?"

>"Let me come through for you!"
>"When did you stop trusting my judgement?"

>"I'm gonna fix it! Just watch me!"
>"And so I keep on keeping on..."

>I know I make things a mess..."
>"While pretending that it barely stings..."

>"Anyone who stands or stood in my path they are going to pay."
>

Anyway, I'm done autistically rambling. Might rewrite this when I'm not cooking breakfast before work so it's actually legible to a person who isn't sleep deprived. Hope y'all like the artwork.

>owe him
When she made a deal with him and he fulfilled his end of the bargain, she certainly owned him.

>insulting my husband
MODS. MODS. MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS.

>kid geniuses
Yeah, I feel he's more 17 than 14. Jeremy Jordan's voice is like Dipper's in Gravity Falls. Way too deep for this tiny child man.

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>she was trying to cover up the fact that the scarring has spread throughout her body
This was my headcanon even before the episode. Maybe we get a flashback from her perspective about the last days.

>"a crush supported by the cast and crew".
That still doesnt exists anywhere but in your head.

>being this buttblasted
If Cass was confirmed straight by the show's creators you'd be touting that as proof. You only dismiss it now because it contradicts you. She's coded as gay, get used to it.

t. Someone who shipped Cassarian but is okay with my ship not being canon because I'm not a spastic retard

>physically exists in the statements of the show's creators
>in your head
Pick one.

Wait what? Cass betrayed her? Last I watched they were all going off into the world together to follow the stones

>She's coded
Pathetic.

And none of them reflect anything in the show. Great!

Underrated

Someone post that Last Jedi Tangled Poster

>storyboards and voice acting aren't in the show
Imagine being this buttblasted over shipping. Ex-Zutarian, by any chance?

When the actress says "I make Cass act kinda gay" it's rather unreasonable for you to insist that everyone saying "Cass is kinda gay" is wrong

Do you have a link? I'm curious.

I dunno why but since the beginning she felt like a reincarnation of Gothel

>really is turning into a princess battle shonen
based
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Off the top of my head? Sorry. I'm phoneposting. But TLDR Eden, Cass' VA, was shown Cass x Raps fanart by one of the former storyboarders who has since moved onto DC Girls (sp?). Apparently Eden approved greatly.

Said storyboard user posted here. Maybe check th archives? Super sorry about this.

I never really bothered to get into any genuine analysis of this show's themes or whatever (Since it's a fucking babby show and I don't have the time for that), but this is really good shit user. Especially the stuff about Raps and Varian, makes the situation make a whole lot more sense and easier to swallow. I could see a moment in S3 where where Cass betrays Varian after they team up or whatever and instead of leaving Varian for dead, Raps saves him and over the course of a few episodes they both get a redemption: Raps for not being there for him and Varian for being the autist creep he was.

Probably could be updated a bit now that we know what happens

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I guess I found it

desuarchive.org/co/thread/106444399/#106458809

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>unreasonable
Unless she munches a muffin in the show. She isnt gay.

i wish this show was my gf

>Cass has an entire song about being stuck waiting in the wings and blinking and losing her chances to matter
>anyone surprised that she betrayed everyone to sieze destiny

Waiting in the Wings was a low key villain song to make her sympathetic.

That's a really interesting take on it. I had always read the way Cass disliked Eugene as just her being a lawfag who shared her fathers dislike of him getting off scot-free, but this is a much more interesting interpretation.

I'm not sure I agree about Eugene not seeking adulation. A large part of the film is him learning to get over his image consciousness and be more authentically himself. And a couple of times in the first season he gets annoyed by people not recognizing the skills he has from his old life. Sure, 'be recognized as a dashing rogue' is pretty different from the kind of acclaim Cass and Varian want, but its there. Perhaps if Cass or Varian get redeemed that's going to be a theme going forward? Rapunzel being someone who steps into peoples lives and cures them of self destructive glory seeking?

This?

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Seems like Samurai Jack rules. The sword can cut through anything but Adira has to hit it just right/hard enough

It was literally her leading him on to figure out what bullshit he was pulling

>constantly feels one upped and inferior to their richer and happier friend
>lets shitty things happen to that friend out of spite
>feigns a caring relationship as to not arouse any suspicions
>given the opportunity to gain power, glory, and importance through supernatural and immoral means, they take it without hesitation
Son of a bitch, how did I not see this before!

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How many shows do you know feature blowjobs? Would you say those couples aren't straight?

I have a very basic understanding of the show after Varian, did Rapunzel seriously turn ANOTHER person evil?

*Cassandra snatches the Moonstone.*

Rapunzel: "Cassandra?"

Cassandra: "Not Cassandra, dear Rapunzel. MAGIC EMPRESS CASSANDRA!"

Eugene: "Magic Empress?"

Rapunzel: "Cassandra, no...."

Cassandra: "Oh, no. Cassandra, yes! Someday, people may mourn this day. But my glorious destiny can only begin with this rebirth!"

*Cassandra shoves the Moonstone into her chest, transforming, much to everyone's horror*

Cassandra: "The Moonstone shall be the cornerstone of a new order. My world order. But.... who shall be my queen?"

*Cassandra looks down at Rapunzel, who looks quite frightened*

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Fuck, that got me good. Love your edits man!

Rapunzel didn't turn anyone evil, Varian and Cassandra are just seething autists who bite more than they can chew because they're stupid.

Varian is one thing but Cassandra literally got crippled to indulge the whim of Rapunzel I'm not sure your argument holds up

Nobody expected a literal anime villain to be hiding out in a Gisnep cartoon

I really like this except she should take both of them as her pets.

T-Thanks

You act like Rapunzel did it on purpose, Cassandra wants to be trusted but she also needs to trust Rapunzel.
Don't forget being a lady in waiting is kind of Cassandra's job, I get that she's tired of being the second banana and the third wheel and all that but at the end of the day she was the one who went against Rapunzel's choice and she was the one who got her hand burned because of that, not Rapunzel.

Yeah the crux is that Rapunzel needs to trust those closest to her but in a tweest at the moment she does, Cassandra juked her ass

The question of why remains unanswered but the immediate result is delicious blondie suffering

And she wants to be a soldier, but a soldier serves the crown. They can’t be in it for themselves.

And everyone talks about this mission as if it’s Rapunzel’s thing. But this is everyone’s thing and they have to put their shit aside to save the fucking world. If Cass wants accolades that will have to wait until certain destruction is averted. She’s being absurd.

She never had the whole magic connection. The black rocks growing and Rapunzel’s hair forced her to be part of the shenanigans because she was afraid of punishment and wanted to get it solved while keeping it under raps (hoho)

Then the journey seemed like an opportunity to go prove her usefulness to her waifu in the big world, but I bet she severely underestimated how much shit was gonna happen out there

Gonna need a monster condom for her new magnum moon dong

God I love Eugene

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thank you for writing this and making sense, user. A lot of people within the fanbase are too autistic or emotionally immature to understand what many of the characters are going through and how they got there, specially when it comes to Cass.

Terrific analysis, all of it. I just hope people understand that Cass being selfish the whole time doesn't mean she was evil the whole time. She was just human.

>Rapunzel’s mother was saved by the sundrop
>Eugene’s mother was killed by the moonstone

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Edmund been wearing the Dark Queen's necklace all this time

fug

blyat

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FOOLISHNESS, RAP, FOOLISHNESS. MIGHT CONTROLS EVERYTHING.

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Looks like stalyan

This show is so dense......

rick, please go away

Plus a high grade narcissist. You can see it in Rapunzeltopia where she mentions that her favorite person in the world is herself. If Rapunzel had a say, everyone in Corona would become smiling puppets, agreeing with her every whim and partying all the time.

Fic of Queen Rapunzel instituting a 1984 style dictatorship where people who fail to smile are purged when?

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Good fucking job, Demanitus

Spend your few hours of lucidity fucking around in a maze instead of making sure the Moon drop wasn't taken by an insane lesbian

i forgot, what was the final purpose of the scroll?

If I had my way, everyone would be cowering insects slaving away for my glory, the slightest mistakes punished brutally in my New Rome.

Your deepest fantasies are just that. Fantasies. At least everyone's happy in Raps'.

Explain that the sun and moon drops exist (most people in both Corona and the Dark Kingdom didn't know or didn't believe the other were real) and that they were two halves of a an ultimate cosmic power, that the moon stone would always seek out the sundrop until they were reunited, and presumably to lead someone pure of heart to find and claim that power before/instead of evil

It also details the spells and incantations to tap into their abilities

Pure slut

Read it in Shorty's voice

So i just learned about this huge betrayal in the rapunzel cartoon, while i only watched the first episode this plot twist seemed really interesting, but for what some anons are saying in this thread it seems that the big reason why Cassandra betrayed Rapunzel is just for jelousy, is that it?, if so it seems really dumb because unless she kills somebody or put Eugene into a big danger there is no way, she is not going to be saved/redeemed by Rapunzel and then later kill herself to save the kingdom from some big danger or to destroy both magic stones aldo Rapunzel will cut/loss her hair because of that.

anyway, i just watched the very first episode when like 2 years ago.

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I don't buy that Cass was evil from the start. If that was the case, why would she help Eugene with his guard training?

My little headcanon is that the disciples' cover names were their original ones before they met Zhan Tiri

So Sugracha was born Sugarby, Tramus Matthews. What I wonder is is Gothel was a disciple, is Gothel her real name, or a new one? If Cass is in league with Zhan Tiri now would she choose a new name as well?

Watch the rest. It's a big mystery what's ACTUALLY going on

Also watch the rest faggot why did you stop

Yeah it's clear that while she's a glory hound, insecure, and kind of an asshole, she wasn't getting "antagonistic" until at least the Great Tree

>is that it?
no, it's been building up due to multiple rapunzel fuckups and Cass's internal struggles and flaws,
some anons have made pretty good analysis on the matter, plus there's something Cass experienced during an episode which we as viewers never got to watch and more than likely was another contributing factor to the betrayal.

Demanitus says it explains how to use the ultimate power.

got it, so in the final episode we can expect a genkidama of light or something like that to defeat cass

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

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"I USED TO THINK THAT MY LIFE WAS A TRAGEDY...

BUT NOW I REALIZE...

IT IS A COMEDY."

Lmao

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Well then he should have written it in a language people can fucking read

He lived a thousand years ago. He only knows Common because the monkey knows Common

I don’t know what any of that had to do with what I said.

I’ll summarize.

Cass acts like she is putting up with Rapunzel’s call to adventure when really everyone’s future depends on this.

She does everything she can to become a soldier with the hope that it will bring her glory, but a soldier is meant to follow orders and know their place.

That one was amazing. You're great editanon

>not accounting for language drift due to time and geographical location in your long game keikaku

As with many, Demanitus was a genius but also a fucking retard

I’m pretty sure Zhan Tiri is the big bad, my dude.

>S3 starts with a tactical nuke to give time to the gang to run away

or

>S3 starts with a battle where Cassandra's rage is barely restrained by the sentient hair and she retreats

Option 3 it opens with a flashback of what happened behind the door.

>we don't find out what the fuck happened until Cassandra's Revenge in the midseason

I want Cass to moon me

How the everlasting fuck did a Rapunzel cartoon get this much lore?

She looks a lot like Adira to me
Have we ever seen Adira without her make up?

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Most teenage fuck ups don't ruin other people's lives and cause them to go on a violent rampage.

>tfw you'll never be put on all fours and sodomized by Moonempress Cassandra while Rapunzel watches you ahegao
why even live

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Its' amazing really. It's what people hoped Star vs would be

Honestly disappointed. Partially because I was a dumbass, listened to soundtrack first and thought Eugene’s song would be about something more severe. It turned out to be a whole lot of nothing.

I was hoping this Cass thing wouldn’t happen because it’s too similar to the Varian thing. Hopefully they play out differently.

Didn’t expect the fake red herring followed by real red herring followed by the reveal. Well played, writers.

Brown eyes seems like a common dark phenotype

And being a quasi-noble in the Brotherhood it's not inconceivable for her to be related to the royal family somehow

Adira is Asian. She can't be Eugene's mom

That little bitch ruined his own damned life.

Just look at the other side of her face.

Also Adira is totally a Mulan reference, down to the VA

They know their world and actually care about it. You can see it on the level of detail they took to craft Rapunzel's castle and make it different from other previous princess works. Also the lore of Corona, their flag and the drops legends. They also got some amazing people in the crew like Alan Menken, the original va's and the writers.

Sadly this. I think because it has to be dumbed down for kids. A teenager or young adult version would be so much better. Probably would have Game of Thrones or Tolkien themes.

If it was more adult we'd probably have to deal with Nobles throwing uproars that peasant criminal is allowed to sleep in the castle, and engage with the princess

Fuck, I love me some high grade autistic analysis of the characters. The way you put it makes Cassandra's betrayal make a lot more sense.

I liked the concept, maybe if it was less rushed it would have worked better.Like giving time and more reasons for Eugene to give his solo, and have it make more impact.

Or make Cassandra's betrayal less obvious.

Good hopes for season 3.

Corona lacks a nobility. There's a gentry of merchants and artisans but full ruling privilege is exercised by he crown

You think a realm with blood sucking parasitic nobles would have public grazing lands?

Honestly I feel like they would've done best by dropping one of the filler episodes and having a Eugene centric episode where he finds out he's from the Dark Kingdom, maybe Hector returning and letting him go free because of it or something.

And that's be great. They could explore more complex morality, could have people actually die and maybe a more in depth exploration of Rapunzel and Eugene's psyche. Maybe even Cassandra being openly lesbian, which is a big no right now due to censorship.

They seem pretty wealthy, probably because they keep the nobility small and taxes are low. Would be fun to see them aiming for expansion to other kingdoms.

Though given Fredrick's peaceful merchant politics, they seem to be focused on attaining more wealth than gaining territory. I wonder how they'd fare against other more militaristic kingdom, would they surrender?

This could have worked too. It got resolved too fast.

They'd do the Italian standard maneuver and hire a bunch of mercenaries.

Yeah I guess. Edmund is cool. I hope we get a tiny bit more out of this Prince thing. Because really, you could just have Edmund persuade Eugene that the moonstone is better off destroyed without being his dad. Very little about the plot would have changed.

Yeah, then make the fandom go crazy for months over who the baby sent with Quirin was. They could have made them believe it was Varian only to reveal it's Cassandra who is back to reclaim her birthright or something. The hype would have been great.

gonna have to know whether Edmund survives the premier

If he does they can start to build on the whole prince thing more

Guys this is literally Spider-Man for girls
>Gothel is Norman
>Varian is Otto
>Cassandra is Harry
>Black Hair Rapunzel
>There's even a Clone Saga
>In a post-Ever After epilogue, Zhan Tiri will make her sell her marriage to save her parents.

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Honestly I just think Eugene needed to stew on his heritage and whether or not he should tell everyone for a while and him being torn up about finding the truth about his parents there. Get that hope train going, have him sad when they find the place abandoned and in disarray and then confused and ecstatic when he finds out about his dad.

Plus I think Cassandra should be a nobody since it adds more to the whole stuck on the sidelines and having to throw away everything to seize center stage thing.

>Plus I think Cassandra should be a nobody since it adds more to the whole stuck on the sidelines and having to throw away everything to seize center stage thing.

If it turns out on top of everything else that she's Gothel's child there's literally no reason I can see for her to not just fall on her sword because her life will have been a cruel joke

What would Rapunzel's politic be like as queen? Would she declare war on other countries?

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>Rapunzel learns she's a princess because of a cheap souvenir, proceeds to do a complete 180 on her guardian of 18 years in a few seconds
>Eugene learns he's a prince because a rando says so, proceeds to completely believe him and everything he says despite his skeptical nature
K-kino?

More like Rapunzel learns her entire life was a lie and her guardian didn't really care about her as an individual. I still wonder how she could prove she wasn't imagining things. Would have been nasty if she killed Gothel and it turned out she wasn't the lost princess.

Eugene's case made no sense, which is why that dark prince plotline left a sour taste in my mouth. There was no impact and no development.

She's too kind. But she'll reconnect with her cousins in Arendelle, formalize that alliance, and basically have an ice witch on speed dial.

He patience is long but her wrath would be legendary

If she keeps any of the sky magic then it's GG for enemies

Any chance we get a Disney version of the red wedding?

Rapunzel: Corona sends its regards

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They better have a new, ultra edgy theme song for season 3. One that's about waking up inside and creeps from the deeps and crawling in my skin.

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Every black rock from Corona to the Dark Kingdom will be adorned with a head

Threadly reminder that Cassandra has seen Rapunzel's naked body and knows her weak spot!

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Really makes you think.

>tfw you'll never get to undress the princess and touch her sweet supple body
I wonder what Raps feels like. Given that she was in the tower, is she soft and well taken care of? Or due to her adventures is she rough and calloused, smelling of a mix of sweat and grass like a country girl?

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I don't think that Eugene "got over it" as much as compartmentized it to save Rapunzel. There's plenty of time for him to angst later.

Provided FemtoCass doesn't have plans for him and his body.

She's a rippling, fluctuating mixture of both and no-one could ever be so lucky as to trace their fingers along her body-contours where the soft and hard textures meet.

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You know hard work only callusizes your hands and feet right? The only manual laborers with callused backs were slow learners on cotton plantations.

yeah, for girls haha

Sunburn WILL harden your skin and Rapunzel is a nudist so her vulva is likely an exciting pattern of soft and tanned skin.

But given how much she adventures, is her body covered with scars from previous scrapes? Are her feet as hardened as a farmer's or a hobbit? Because eww

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elephantiasis is rather a different story

Uh we have seen time and time again that she still has cute feet.

I'd rather not. I want to see the best aspects of the show before deciding if I want to settle down and experience everything it has to offer.

But that's only in drawing, we know 3dpd girls are actually smelly, poop and have cooties. 3d Punz feet may not be as perfect and may actually have several fungus and feet infections due to all the adventuring in a medieval world. Who knows if there're any good doctors or deodorants there.

I wonder if she applies any treatment to her feet like washing them regularly, herbs or something to scrape off her calluses.

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You forgot J Montgomery Jameson

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I hereby swear that this statement is not based on foot faggotry.

I imagine her feet are toughened, but not completely callused over. They're still soft and flexible enough that they'd be "appealing."

They're also the possibility that her Sundrop powers prevent injury, meaning her baby smooth feet can walk on sharp rocks and thorns without concern

Life doesn't work that way chief.

Hlw can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat?

I think Monty is a metaphor for people who dislike the new, independent breed of Disney Princess and prefer the old ones.

>3dpd girls
Who the ever-loving FUCK gives even the remotest rancid shit about 3dpd girls?

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>I hereby swear that this statement is not based on foot faggotry.
Really, who cares. It's great to have something to discuss freely without being swarmed by downvotes unlike Leddit.

I always wondered how she walks around when the floor is usually filled with dung, pointy objects and broken glass. Or what the cultural advancements in hygiene are in their world.

Like, do they have deodorant? Perfume? Do they make them in site or (more likely) buy those commodities from neighboring kingdoms due to Corona's small size?

They have perfume because Rapunzel called the bottle with the personality changing potion a flacon, meaning they have specific vocabulary for things regarding perfume or potent aromas that would be stored in a small bottle

Rapunzel's star navigation skills and floral nudist powers prevent her from stepping into shit unless she thinks she is cursed.

Rapunzel got some nice vocabulary there. She really may be a prodigy.

Nothing special. No Disney princess ever gets dirty unless she wants to.

Yes but other Disney princess are mary sues who have no reason to be able to stay clean, for Rapunzel it is a legitimate skill.

>Zhan Tiri will make her sell her marriage

Raps returning willingly to her prison tower to save everyone else would be one hell of an ending

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There's no tower to return to, user. The tower is and has always been a lie.

Also threadly reminder that this is your king for tonight. Would you a Fredrick?

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At the risk of him going full Mr. Krabs voice mid climax, yes