Wait, since when is Bob Camp considered a creator of Ren & Stimpy?

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Big House Blues, good shit.

When I was a kid I thought Bob Camp created the show. Now it feels like he didn't actually get enough credit because John has been pissing on it to claim his territory

John's a piece of shit, buy come on. The show started going downhill in season three, and it was completely unwatchable by the end.

>Color theory - Steal from anime if you can't think of anything yourself
I love how agressive-passive he is.

>only using 3 approved cartoon color schemes
What did he mean? I don't get it.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I don't really get the problem of the colors What's up with that?

>Besides John won the lawsuit against those women

Proof? Twitter and Kiwifarms doesn't say anything, which makes me think you're a John K shill.

Even APC is more memorable than most of the Games episodes.

Agreed.

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Going to east coast Comic-Con too user. Hope I see you there so I can pile drive you through a table. Bitch

Camp's cartoons were often mediocre and several times bad yes, but consider what was the environment he and his crew were working on when making these. Hated by every animation circle under the sun, criticized and mocked to hell and back by their former pal, all the pressure of having to keep this popular property going despite the woes...Man, seeing that, I applaud them for being able to churn out a fun cartoon here and there.

>criticized and mocked to hell and back by their former pal
You mean John? he likes some of the Games episodes like that Pinocchio parody.

Oh he says that now. Back then he not only decried them publicly, he also wrote articles under aliases shitting on the Games episodes and calling the staff sellouts.
The episode Reverend Jack becomes something else when you realize it's a "love letter" to John all the way through

>The episode Reverend Jack becomes something else when you realize it's a "love letter" to John all the way through
Quite.

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Storytime!

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While reading this, keep in mind that this was written entirely from the viewpoint of John Kricfalusi and his shills.

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CO-CREATOR you stupid faggot

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If you want the whole story, without the bullshit, I recommend the second edition of Thad Komorowski's "Sick Little Monkeys" .

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>If you want the whole story, without the bullshit, I recommend the second edition of Thad Komorowski's "Sick Little Monkeys" .
You mean that book that shits on John, Eddie and the Spumco crew nonstop and is heavily biased towards Bob Camp and the Game episodes? No thanks, Go shill your hateboner crap on another chan, Thad.

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>yfw you like both the Spumco and the Games episodes

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OK, John. Whatever you say...

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y-you too?

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>and is heavily biased towards Bob Camp and the Game episodes?

This is how I know you didn't even read that book.

>mfw I never liked R&S at all

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>T. Thad.

I never understood this meme. Some of the Games episodes are some of the most insane shit in the entire series.
youtube.com/watch?v=zRNPsd_PfeI

Yeah, man. Games still had some great episodes. I'll never understand the hateboner Yea Forums has for R&S

>I'll never understand the hateboner Yea Forums has for R&S
Hivemind and John K. I can understand hating the creator, he's a massive scumbag, but not the show. It was an okay cartoon, not great because the pacing was terrible, but it's okay.

Thanks for reminding me of how incredibly crappy the Games episodes animation was compared to Spumco's.

Is it sad that I would take games animation nowadays because of how fucking stiff and cal arts cartoons are today?

Spumco's episodes were great. Games' was okay at best.

Not a real argument there, sounds like you lied about reading the book just like you lied about John K winning in court

Go shill your book to another board, Thad.

Holy shit, there really are John K shills on Yea Forums

based

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I've the issue where John K. interviews/interrogates Mike Judge like a guidance councillor, plus it it has his user-trashing of Animaniacs.

Storytime it? Yes/no?

Second edition got announced a fucking month after I bought the first. I'd upgrade, but the book (as good as it was) was WAY overpriced to begin with.

>Storytime it? Yes/no?
Yes please.

>Thad Komorowski
Thad hasn't made a single non-bullshit statement about John K in his life. He's one of the most rabid John K attackers there is.

Thad announced the second edition even before the first edition was out, but he said it'd take a year or more to publish. The first edition is good enough.

Yeah, when John was acussed by Katie, Thad leave a comment on his Facebook telling John to shoot himself.
That guy is an asshole as bad if no worse than anyone from the Spumco crew.

>it's a bit on the cold side but the japanese are a cold race

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Since John K got unpersoned for wrongthink and trumped up #MeToo accusations.

I only have the first edition. Are the differences significant?

>Are the differences significant?
While I've only read the 1st edition (thanks to interlibrary loan), the 2nd edition has a new cover (pic related) and it's
>fully revised and bursting with new information, interviews, and illustrations
Sounds like a must-have to me.

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>Sounds like a must-have to me.
Thad, have some shame and stop shilling your propaganda on this board.

groping an underage girl through her pajamas is something you should get unpersoned for

>Thad leave a comment on his Facebook telling John to shoot himself.
Based

>Thad, have some shame and stop shilling the truth on this board.
FTFY

John K. won the lawsuit and he's back doing commissions, There is no concrete evidence against him, Thad.

>jap
Wow. That guy is racist too

>John K. won the lawsuit
[CITATION NEEDED]

>That guy is racist too
IIRC, His nickname for "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles" was "Roscoe's Chicken for Niggers".

>[CITATION NEEDED]
Didn't happen in the last thread when he claimed it, probably won't happen here either

>John K. won the lawsuit
You keep parroting that without actually substantiating it. Get off of K's dick.

>>Thad Komorowski
Oh sheit i remember that guy from toonzone. He used to say gene deitch tom and jerry sucked yet also liked it in a mst3k-esque way.

Hence why he said "a" creator

For anyone who doesn't want to pay for both editions...

>First edition (Epub)
mega.nz/#!DQRTzaTL!5FxDb4V7p6QYC9ziv2tj5pwsQs6Zwzw_0iK47Ujxelc

>Second Edition (PDF, has a pretty annoying watermark)
mega.nz/#!mZYzxChB!xXwo6Jwxj_c3--jyush2Wl8meCitmdUAVmhWC4OsvKs

>His nickname for "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles" was "Roscoe's Chicken for N
Based John.

>Based John.
Yeah, you'd think so, wouldn't you Steven?

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>weh weh sex is scary and evil
Is your self-esteem so low that the only way you can feel better than John K is by siding with the puritans?

In a better timeline John K could have been one of the most prolific rule34 artists on the internet.

I love the insight on his blog but most of Ren and Stimpy is hot garbage outside of the technicals, his comics too. I'm glad he's back on the blog.

Some of these examples would be considered poo poo pee pee if this was made today

hermit ren has always been my favorite episode

>jap is racist because old-timey people said it
You're the reason the word hypersensitive gets thrown around a lot these days.

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Not really, modern anime tends to skew towards garishness and the lighting post processing makes them look like blurry trash. There are great exceptions though.

You know what? I've taken for granted that John K really did it for so long that I never really did the research myself. If #MeToo and Kavanaugh taught me anything it's to always look for the facts around this subject... has there ever been anything definitive about John? I'm not even a big fan of his work (though his influence was a huge fucking positive on the industry, especially on early Cartoon Network). I'd like to see him do stuff, but Cans Without Labels was proof that he probably doesn't have it in him anymore.

My jolly African-Americans.

>John K. shills

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>everyone who disagrees with me is John K

whatever helps you hold onto your predetermined biases.

SEETHING

Thanks for this user.

Based Anti-John poster

I live in LA and saw John K at Roscoes once

Any more pics? I've always been fascinated by Johns "parties"

Hence why he said STUPID faggot.

He is right though. I used to watch those. I just them to be over so I could get to the HB cartoons and the Jones cartoons. They are fucking weird, they remind me of old Soviet/communist knockoff cartoons or Chinese knockoff/bootleg cartoons or products that you find in China nowadays

>they remind me of old Soviet/communist knockoff cartoons

they were. the deitch cartoons were animated in Czechoslovakia, a commie state

I actually liked this book I learned a few things about R&S, its creator and the whole host of characters involved in its production, actually it not an attack on John K, it gives him praise when he deserves it (mainly for the stellar episodes of Seasons 1 and 2) and criticism when he definitely deserves it (Adult Party Cartoon and the mess that was Spumco post-R&S). Some things I learned:
>Have you ever wondered why after Ren and Stimpy John K and Spumco did nothing? One reason is not meeting timelines but another is John K's fear that, just like with Ren and Stimpy, someone would hijack the studio's content, so John K refused to comprise, this resulted in little mainstream work produced at Spumco.
>Despite this John K had it ALL. Celebrity friends at the time included: Sam Raimi, Joel Silver, Michael Bay, Aerosmith. John was even represented by Ari Emmanuel, the MAN in Hollywood, one of the world's most powerful agents, brother to Rahm Emanuel, mayor of Chicago and member of Obama's administration. This proves he wasn't blacklisted, and of course, any plans with these "friends" went nowhere due to John incompetence.
>He produced this video for Bjork: youtube.com/watch?v=hBQhVAbffDQ Mostly due to his GF at the time, Elinor Blake, who had connections to the music industry and set the two up, John, being a great guy, shut her out of the production and she left him and the studio soon after.
>Production of Ripping Friends is also weird.
>John K was originally supposed to have minor input, he was only there to approve the storyboards while more talented artists (Jim Smith and John Dorman) were supposed to direct, this mostly executive position soon morphed into full guiding-visionary position.
>John K would give all kinds of crazy guidelines such as, "Draw close to Jim's boards while emulating Jack Kirby." Roughs would be faxed to John, then cleaned up, then they would be faxed back and then the animators would fix it or start over."

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BASED

I have the softcover first edition and I wanna see if the second edition hardcover is worth buying.

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>ebook converter DEMO Watermarks
Use Calibre, it's free and open-source

I masturbate to rape ahegao mating press porn, I dont wanna fucking hear it. I'm saying fanservice is fucking stupid and we should beat off to actual porn like normal individuals.

>actually it not an attack on John K, it gives him praise when he deserves it (mainly for the stellar episodes of Seasons 1 and 2) and criticism when he definitely deserves it (Adult Party Cartoon and the mess that was Spumco post-R&S).

That's true, that's part of why I knew the shill who posted didn't read the book but pretended he did. The other part was that Thad was actually harsh on the Games era episodes. Dumb shills really should've done their homework.

Ren and Stimpy fans are all rape apologist

>This proves he wasn't blacklisted

Not really. It took him ages to get mainstream work and I know for a fact that at least 2 major studios were adamant about having nothing to do with him. In fact several ex Spumco employees had to be retrained by other studios because they had major problems following linear pipeline/production schedules thanks to John

I'm a Ren & Stimpy fan and I condemn any rapist.

What now, faggot?

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Blacklisted from Hollywood "society", not from actually getting work. Some Canadian company tried to make Ripping Friends without his direct involvement but he did get involved and they couldn't put up with it. Then TNN was so desperate for shocking "adult" content that they hired him and of course he only delivered three episodes on time out of an entire season.

So yeah, he couldn't get any real work other than "consulting" for Free Birds and other stuff that doesn't require his direct involvement in production.

this

It the words of That Creepy Reading...Just by watching the show, you’re showing that John’s actions don’t bother you one bit like they should. You should want the show banished from history if you feel any empathy.

>if the artist is bad you gotta hate the art
Wagner wrote the racist "Jewishness in Music" but he's still appreciated as a musical genius. "Never Learn Not to Love" was written by Charles Manson but it's still played on the radio and enjoyed by people who do not condone murder.

You're retarded.

I know there are a lot of people who genuinely believe that, and it's very silly. Most entertainers, especially have done some sleazy stuff. The inability to separate content from creator won't make anyone happy.

Ok, i get what you mean.
What was he doing between Rpping Friends & Free Birds though? I know he was shopping pilots around in the early 00s-10s but no one wanted to touch him.
The "consulting" job on Free Birds is still so weird to me, I can't figure out how that even happened

I mean, it’s true, tho.

ReelFX wanted some of his magic for their films but they quickly found out he has none.

He also did commercials for a milkshake company and design work for a food truck. The guy knows how to get work, he just never does any that's worth a damn.

He also consulted for a planned adaption of Seuss' "Happy Birthday to You!"

There's a fine line to it, user.
Kevin Spacey's sexual assault charges didn't change the quality of stuff like Baby Driver and House of Cards but did make stuff like American Beauty and the unreleased "Gore" weird

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That's hysterical. And they didn't even go with his designs in the end.
I cannot even fathom how that would have turned out.

>John's a piece of shit, buy come on. The show started going downhill in season three, and it was completely unwatchable by the end.
Although Bob Camp was showrunner from season 3 onwards he contributed a lot in terms of animation and direction from the pilot onward, so technically he does have a hand in 'some of the best cartoons' from the first two seasons
>I never understood this meme. Some of the Games episodes are some of the most insane shit in the entire series.
Interesting that all the flack the original two seasons got from the media ("this is vile and just random nonsense") can be more literally applied to the latter three. The tone of the earlier episodes is more benign on average, compared to 'Stimpy makes a village idiot kill himself and rips off a giant's toenails' or 'Ren and Stimpy migrate inside a bloated dead whale' or 'Ren gets surgically grafted onto Stimpy and they become circus freaks'

John K is a deplorable pedophile groomer bastard that has no soul so from a certain point of view Bob Camp has claim on the show cause he's a human being.

Newsflash: You can like Ren & Stimpy, AND still think John K. Is a scumbag.

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This

>I wanna see if the second edition hardcover is worth buying.
Go ahead, if only to support the author.

you are now banished

Thanks, user!

But we also have to hear John K. as Ren in the first two seasons. I mean, with The Cosby Show being a live-action show, you're seeing a serial rapist right before your eyes.

>John K. interviews/interrogates Mike Judge like a guidance councillor

inthe80s.com/july1995/animate/beavis.html

>wrongthink
You mean being a child groomer on top of also being a scammer and an unlikable bitter old cunt?

>Chris Gore
How many rags did this guy edit besides this and Film Threat

golf fucking clap

How's Cans Without Labels coming along, John

IT 'LL BE READY
WHEN IT'S READY
, DAD

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>In the weeks before his own dismissal, Kricfalusi also fired Chris Reccardi — one of his directors and top people — solely because
Reccardi was dating Kricfalusi’s ex-girlfriend Lynne Naylor.

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