PSA: WE DONT NEED VIOLENCE TO MAKE A GOOD ACTION SHOW

Even then not really because Deltarune seems to be rolling that back and saying "Yeah sometimes you might actually need to fight because there are legitimate assholes out there".

Popularity != quality

>we don’t need violence to be entertained
Yeah, Star Trek already proved that, the difference being Steven Universe is somehow more of a slog then a show from the sixties

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SU is only watched by tumblrinas and feminist bloggers but they're a very vocal audience with influences

And that's why I like Deltarune much more. Undertale demands you do a perfect 100% pacifist run and falls into that old "the bad guy is just a sad person that needs a hug".

I mean, it works for Thunderbirds.

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i'm starting to believe that "Steven is Sans" theory even more..

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yes because we can all fucking learn to verbally and emotionally bully each other to death like woman do.

the gender that has lies and deception flow from their mouths like water from a stream wants to get all preachy

>I don't like violence so I'm going to demonize anyone who likes it by calling them disturbed dehumanizers. How dehumanizing.

>listen to podcasts regularly
>start hearing ads for the "Murder Minute App"
>it's a 5-something minute audio where someone describes a gruesome murder on a daily basis

No one is paying attention to the fact that women fucking love true crime, the gnarlier the better

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You know what, everyone who whines about the Diamonds not getting killed or punished is a self righteous pussy

If someone doesn't protect their life do they really have a right to their life?
Clearly they do not value it, and are unworthy the gift of life.

The lack of action cartoons has pussified a generation. Modern “men” can’t handle confrontation, competition, and will roll over like a dog.

>my politics don’t require me to castrate myself

Feels good desu

>SJWs say this
>but then say a female character is only strong if she can beat up all the guys without help

What do they want?

>What do they want?
A quick and merciful death.

Undertale made an aside to that at the very end if you go back and talk to Asriel.

>had every conflict solved with talking things out.
it still had fighting. did you read the image you posted? or just want another excuse to have a SU thread?

you see it mostly in people that make animations and the ones that share their game ideas, its always guns and blood and le epic battlez.

op image person clearly has no fucking clue what theyre talking about and relates their own beliefs and morals onto an entire group and thinks theyre all one hivemind.

There will always be violence, although I’d say your average person could have a different relationship with it. If you like fighting and stuff you should join boxing or mauy Thai / BJJ. Getting the shit beat out of you when you think you’re hot shit or a “real man” does wonders for the ego or people quit. Seen it lots, less tumbler more combat sports.

Says you and your bitchass, even the best comedy cartoons since forever used violence as part of humor. Furthermore, there are a lot of emotionally violent scenes in SU wich don't have physical violence, or use other allegories like rape. In a lot of "violent" action cartoons violence is NOT praised, and most of the times what it wants expresses are values like justice or courage. Think about cartoons like Avatar, Teen Titans or Batman TAS (or basically any action cartoon really), where violence is used as a means to help people.

>There will always be violence
Says who? The only people saying this are the ones who are violent

>The country with the biggest militar complex in the world and an open cult toward its veterans, which most have only engaged in foreign invasions shooting against civilian population, can't stand violence in cartoons
I'll never get this

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Everything outside is violent , havent you see those natural life shows?

The acts of the government and the desires of the people do not always go hand in hand. Also? Believe it or not, not everyone has the same opinion on everything

You fucking child. Nature itself is violence, a fundamental fact of all life. Smart men are always open and start with peace, but must always be prepared for war. History doesn’t give a shit about your misguided sense of moral high ground, only that you were too cowardly to fight for peace and died

I swear the 2020s are either going to be another renaissance caused by the defiance of these people, or a censorship fuckfest because of them. Moral busybodies ruin anything they touch, just look at the cartoons from the 70s.

>just look at the cartoons from the 70s
Or the 80s.

The Loud House is the most popular kids show of the last five years. Teen Titans Go is the most popular show on Cartoon network of the last five years. Even at it's peak Steven Universe was never the most popular anything of the last five years

violence makes the odd times when the hero chooses to pursue diplomacy all the more poignant, and vice versa

gotta have both for that nice contrast

Action cartoons should probably have action but it’s true the action doesn’t have to be fighting. Showing non violent resolutions are possible is a good idea. And you can have both none of this is zero sum

So I guess we don't kill plants or animals to survive..?

Faggot

Re: the comment in the picture it's retarded. Men don't tell women to defend themselves because we are 'loyal to violence'. It's because telling criminals to stop being violent doesn't work, because they are criminals and choose to break the law and don't care if violence is wrong. Pro-actively defending yourself and decreasing your own risk factors is literally all that can be done.

Calling that soppy shit action is mislabeling at its finest and ignoring the key element of it.

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All that "Support the troops" stuff is looked at as redneck behavior by urban Americans.

>Considering Steven Universe is the most popular modern cartoon for the past 5 years
???
Is there some sort of official ranking?

You have to remember that these are "rape culture" retards that think that if you just stigmatize something people will stop doing it rather than accepting that sometimes people don't care about stigma and talking ain't gonna do shit.

Well it has been nominated for a Peabody, alongside Hilda

>loud house is....

NOT ANYMORE
PERVERT PUT IN JAIL
YAAAAAAAAAS KWEEN!

how is that >the most popular modern cartoon?

How are the ratings?
Shit?

Hrrrr. MURKA. I Leik mah cartoon the way I leik MAH MEET, RED and RAW. IT MAKES ME a MAN. No more pussy cartoons. Make more WWE X scooby doo.

Occasionally, quality and popularity go hand in hand

That doesn't equate popularity. Just quality, and even that is subjective.

Psa: we don't need "hot take" social media post screenshots on Yea Forums

This was once attempted : it was called Burning Rangers on the Sega Saturn and it was about firemen trying to rescue people and had oodles of action.

Yet fags and women always default to shit like Steven Gayverse and whatever other jew shit.

Coop dubs tell the truth.

This isn't one of those occasions

Okay, so SU has shitty ratings and is only now getting nominated for anything while something actually good has also been nominated after premiering last year?
Is that what you're saying?

So you claim

Our media directly shields the general public Against this stuff after Vietnam. Otherwise there would be more public outcry.

>Physcial conflict
>exhausting
Rlly now

Remember how easily the so-called "woke" media supported the troops during the Iraq invasion? The SJWs are just another flavor of conservaturism.

Steven Universe will be quickly forgotten like Gravity Falls or Adventure Time.

And people say this place isn't Yea Forumsmblr

It won that GLAAD award.

This but unironically. Bring back the age of great action cartoons. Also the only people that eat steak in any other way are women and children.

>Minions is one of the best-grossing films ever so you can’t say it’s shit
Minions are pretty violent creatures though. Cartoon violence but thats still violence.

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>Adventure Time
>Forgotten

You're missing the point, it's about how popular != good.

You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. Those numbers are easy to find so find them and prove me wrong.

Pacifism is a foolish philosophy, because it doesn't work if your enemies don't also abhor violence.
You don't need to find violence, fulfilling, only realize it is sometimes necessary.

Talking to solve problems is at best one of those vastly naive lessons to teach children about the world that is done so with the goal of not encouraging violent behavior.
The cold hard truth is that there are those who can not be reasoned with and the only choices were to meet violence with violence or submit.

It is a sign of a lazy writer to have talking be the conflict resolution.
It shows up in Naruto notoriously as "talk-no-jutsu" where the writer goes
>And then despite all of the actions at the hand of the villain who showed unwavering conviction, they gave up.

Korra season 4 was highly guilty of it as a woman who was prepared to sacrifice her own fiance just gives up along with every member of her army.
Lazy lazy writing.

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That fyxan was a radfem looney. Better to ignore her

Well, I suppose you could make a case for popularity, albeit not always positive, at least among this board, with various detractors and defenders, and considering the Peabody, you do have some indication that it is considered a compelling story and/or a distinguished one

Steven universe is barely an action show. It's more of a slice of life with fantasy elements

The "talking to solve problems" moral is partly true but is misguided.
Talking to solve problems only works when you have the potential to use power, whether that be violent or not.
Animals have evolved to submit to potential power and form hierarchies as not to waste resources fighting.
If a hierarchy can't be settled though, violence is necessary and should be committed thoroughly and quickly as not to waste more than you need to.
Essentially the moral should really be "don't waste people's fucking time"

They are aiming to cut the balls off the Internet, there are people out there that legitimately believe that by getting rid of porn and violence in media you can erase it from culture, problem is they will most likely succeed at their censorship campaign, once a corporation takes a moral stand it’s really hard for them to go back, the promise of safety always sounds good for the masses
But as always you can’t really erase “immoral behavior” they will just push it in the dark

The fun part it’s femminists began by telling men they don’t need them yet expect men to fight and control other violent men for them, it’s fucking bonkers

Rape is already stigmatized to death and back in the west.

>Grravitty Falls
>forgotten

As fatr as I remember, every post show content sold well and was a best seller

It's official.

Feminists are the new Moral Guardians of this era. They have tried to deny it, still acted like they were 'rebels', still wore punk clothes, still tried to pretend they were fighting the "status quo" and were the hip, cool, fun people battling the evil, oppressive and boring conservatives.

Not anymore. They all may as well be soccer moms upset about Bart saying 'eat my shorts'. Before long, they'll be complaining about how Spider-Man might startle pigeons when he lands on rooftops.

THERE IS NO GOING BACK. YOU ARE WHAT YOU HATED.

>Battle Shonen are thousands of times more influential and popular than moeshit
>People try to say battles aren’t a good thing
The market disagrees. Hence why western shit is dying.

This reminds me of the conservatives during the 80s and 90s.

>Someone has a personal opinion that they don't like violence
>"WHY ARE YOU CENSORING OUR CARTOONS!?!??!"
You people work yourselves up over literally nothing, jesus.

There's a reason they hate the concept of Horseshoe Theory.

For real, the people complaining about this shit, are no better than the “snowflakes” they mock

Right now they are not censoring cartoons, they are harrasing artists and people on Twitter opinions, which is even worse than messing with cartoons, when you mess with a big network they don’t loose sleep or jobs over it, a young artist that tweets the wrong thing can have its potential career destroyed or from the most prominent social media, which is pretty much a death sentence for illustrators and other designers

>personal opinion that they don't like violence
yeah, a personal opinion that basically states violence and the like in media are inherently evil and should be censored to stop abuse.
an opinion that is startling becoming more and more mainstream
an opinion that industry professionals are starting to latch on to

i know you're probably baiting here, but this needs to be said

>won't someone think of the cartoonists?!

I don’t think they are snowflakes, I think they are wrong and dangerous, like any mob mentality formed by idiots

>Baiting this hard
Something wrong? Mama didn’t change your nappy this morning and you made a stinky poopoo? Want attention?

women truly are reprehensible creatures aren't they

Fair Enough

Yeah, compelling and distinguished

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James Rolfe had a dozen hit pieces done about him when he announced he wasn't interested in watching or reviewing the 2016 ghostbusters.
Do you know what happened after that?
He gained subscribers and viewers. He completely ignored every site trying to do a hitpiece on him. Several of these sites tried to goad him into a fight he couldn't win so he once again refused to be part of their game of challenge pissing.
I honestly think anything other than ignoring these people validates their opinion. They don't deserve your attention. They don't deserve the space in your head to give them a second thought. They're not even worth the calories burned by typing up a reply.

Appropriate, because I'm Glaad it's ending

>undertale
>pacifism done right
right, the game where it is encouraged and rewarded to go out of your way to befriend a bunch of deranged monsters who tried to kill you, a small child.

a game where you can talk things out with everyone, provided you are fast and dexterous enough to survive all of their relentless attacks as you try to do so

a game where it befalls on you the responsability of knowing what to say to appease your attackers because they will never try to talk things out with you, no, you are responsible for always making the first step and turning the other cheeck even as they hurt you, again, you are a child, they are the adults. and then you can all be friends like nothing ever happened

>The masses haveing good taste
>Ever

You want a non bait answer? It's disingenuous and not mentally healthy to assume there is a conspiracy keeping people from making the content they want. The reason action cartoons aren't made is because children don't watch those cartoons any more, they barely watch any cartoons that are showed on television. It's either YouTube animation or straight up YouTubers they are watching. On top of that there is nothing stopping anyone from doing whatever they want on the internet, look at Shadman for an example of how well these "sjw boogeymen" you are shitting yourself in fear are when you don't give a shit.

>Right now they are not censoring cartoons
So calm down and take a damn nap you fucking whiny children.
>muh Twitter
Just don't use Twitter, then. If you NEED a Twitter then you can hire a publicist to handle it for you, if you can't afford a publicist you aren't the kind of person who NEEEEEDS a Twitter.

Horseshoe theory is legit.

That Tumblr post isn't even about cartoons, what are you smoking OP?

Modern libs:
>Get offended by heavy metal
>Get offended by paganism
>Get offended by violence and want cartoons to be censored and to end with PSAs
>Hate horror movies
>Are embracing Christianity to 'own' fedora atheists
>Are embracing 'Muricana and the Greatest Generation to show how much they hate Nazis
>Are paranoid about Russian infiltration
>Have a puritanical hatred of fun

Modern conservatives:
>Love Heavy Metal and play it at rallies
>Are embracing paganism in a sincere, respectful way
>Are nostalgic for classic cartoons and abhor censorship
>Have viewing parties of classic horror movies ranging from the '30s to the 80s. Carpenter's The Thing is one of /pol/'s favorite movies
>Have rejected old school fundamentalism and view those who embrace it as extremists
>Are willing to discuss American war crimes
>Laugh about how a bunch of memes fooled the CIA
>Even crazy Nazis like Richard Spencer go disco dancing

Oh man, this timeline....

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>Do we need violence 24/7 just to entertain us?
Violence is a vehicle for pathos, so it might not be necessary, but it's important.
Not really. The fact that all the monsters are actually just good people kind of kills the weight behind it. If you want something that handled pacifism well, watch Turn A Gundam.

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That's my point.
These are people that go "we need to teach men rape is bad" as if everyone doesn't already know it. Some people just don't care.

>they try to make you feel bad for the king because even though he murdered fucking children to power his barrier he’s really a sweet guy that dresses like Santa for Christmas

Fuck Undertale and Undertale fans.

That isn't a strong case. Just because something is discussed a lot on Yea Forums doesn't make it popular. Yea Forums loves to discuss shit that no one else but Yea Forums likes.

And again a peabody doesn't mean something is popular either.

Try again

The government that gives you your welfare takes it through threats of violence. You survive only because a violent system subsidizes you.

They’re not telling you to learn and fight back because it’s fun you stupid whore. No shit it’s exhausitng and dehumanizing. It’s fighting not patty cake!

>>Get offended by paganism
>>Are embracing Christianity to 'own' fedora atheists
When did this happen? I've seen tons of libs who are self-proclaimed Wiccans and who still hate the patriarchal, racist, homophobic ideals of Christianity more than anything.

>Steven Universe
>a fandom that drove a teenage girl to attempt suicide for drawing a character too thin

that post has nothing to do with comic books at all

it's right though

Well let’s see over 7,000 stories on fanfiction.net, over 12,000 works on ao3 and over 248, 000 results on deviantart. And a subreddit with over 172,000 members. So probably a little popular?

*sips*

'Yup. Y U NO was a good meme.

>over 7,000 stories on fanfiction.net
the only data you can extrapolate from this fact is that the fanbase is mostly autists

i'd say its more like a circle. totalitarianism is totalitarianism, no matter how you brand it

It hasn't. Maybe they are referring to the adoption of Norse imagery by white supremacist groups but that's neither sincere or respectful as they have about as much understanding of that culture as a thot with a Buddhist tattoo.

>It’s popular so it’s good!
Spoken like a true mutt.

>Are willing to discuss American war crimes
Tell that to literal who Julian Assange.

Well, that's another nerd getting added to the Bully list

That's a huge disservice to Hilda.

shit show with the most retarded fans in history

Are we talking about the same conservatives that cry like pigs when there's a not straight withe manly man as MC of anything produced in the US?

And absolutely none of that translates into tv ratings, the only metric that matters.

By your logic Miraculous Tales of Ladybug must be the most popular cartoon of the past decade because it has double the number of fan works on some of those sites.

Steven Universe has an active and vocal online fanbase that does not make it the most popular cartoon of the last five years.

Let's put it this way if Steven universe was as popular as you say then it's movie would be getting a theatrical release instead of a tv movie. Teen Titans Go to The Movies got a theatrical release because cartoon network was confident in its popularity

What kind of sheltered life is that thing living?

A very epic post, fellow redditor

I see you to have your finger on the pulse of society.

Anyone who has study in a school knows that is bullshit. The lesson of preferring peace should be don't start a fight. But you must know how to fight back and defend yourself because there will be someone will start a fight against you.
That said, if you can talk out of a fight do it, but that won't always be an option

What kind of hellscape do you live in where you have use violence all the time?

Teddy said it best "Speak softly and carry a big stick" Didn't really practice what he preached but it still stands

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The only time people complain is when you grab established media they like and shit on it in the name of diversity: Riri , Amadeus, Carol Manvers, She-Thor, etc... Keep deflecting with strawmans, that shows what kinda person you really are.

user I like the show too but you're deluding yourself if you think a show that airs 3 weeks out of the year is "the most popular modern cartoon for the past 5 years". For fuck's sake the show barely has merchandise aimed at a youth audience.

*Postal 2
Knowing that you could easily be the biggest monster who walked the Earth and choose the harder path of peace is emotionally satisfying.
Especially if the very next thing you do after completing the game is starting again and being the biggest bastard you could be

Not knowing how to fight and/or protect yourself is the quickest way to have your world stripped away by someone who does. Because all it takes is one guy with the means and motive to put you and everything you love in the ground because he'd rather act through violence and not talk with his words.

Feel free to go through your history books though and see what pacifist nations still remain today.

This, even Buddhist monks know when to drop their ideals and defend them. Though it's not like Buddhism teaches you complete pacifism.

The south.

My first Postal 2 run was pacifist. All in all still a pretty fun game.
I still ran around town with my dick out but nobody died from a severe case of flashing, so I maintain it was pacifist.

I don't think Fyxan understands how life works.

Life is a fight for survival, it's violence, suffering, and occasionally you come out on top and find a little happiness.

If you don't like it, die.

Very true. The goal in life isn't to actively seek out violence, but an individual who might come at you seeking said violence, should know to tread carefully, because you are more than ready to return any violence upon yourself 10 fold.

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Teen Titans Go dwarfs Stephen Universe in popularity, look at what airs all day, look at what got a theatrical release, look at what has toys, games, and irl fans.

I don’t get it? That idiot wants to just fucking die? There are people who want to hurt you, it is up to you to have the ability to defend yourself when it happens. It is not about status or glory, but about not being a victim.

This is dumb, this thread is dumb.

I was thinking I'd go Pacifist, but then the guy fired me and I smacked him with my shovel. Apparently he's the Postal equivalent of an essential character, so smacking him up had some amusing cartoon violence results.

Damn....

Imagine being such an utter faggot that you actually believe this. Only a squeamish pussy would be so upset by fictional violence.

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Teddy spoke loud, carry a big stick and use it often against the backyard (Latin America)

To be fair, buddhist monks can be as corrupt and depraved as their christian counterpart, if not even more. Christianity preach about universal brotherhood and loving your enemies but it's very easy to find the convenient quote to justify bigotry and mass murder. Religions are about social control in general.

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Sure, religions do teach peace and kindness towards men, to forgo bigotry and violence, but it doesn't matter. Even without religion, those things would still occur and did occur. Someone will always want what you have. And out of those people, someone will have the stomach to take it from you, either by the threat of force or actual force.

It's like girls prefer to watch attractive people saving the day and falling in love instead of fat trannies crying.

It was to free his people, user. I don't think you understand how war works

Really? Because there a lot of complaining about original shows and works because of that.

Hit me up then, do like me and give examples instead of lazy statements.

t. mad dog

Well the constitution of my country say we are a pacifist country, but the military budget is growing and were developing missiles so... yeah.

Steven Universe, America Chavez and the DC heroines one.

Which is how it should be, yeah? "Hey, we don't want to fight, or cause violence or do harm, but if you fuck with us, we aren't afraid to defend ourselves and our people."

undertale makes it very clear from the end of the ruins that your outside abilities as a player (saving, loading, etc) are canon. If the player still doesn't get this towards the end of the game, Sans just spells it out for you- you have the superpower of time control, you can just try again if you actually die, so if you have that kind of power, you're never actually in any danger and "but dude they're attacking me self defense" goes out the window.

It's like being Doctor Manhattan, and a kid shoots a slingshot at you- you deconstruct him at the molecular level.

It's not trying to tell you "dude just never fight and be friends lmao" it's telling you that IN THIS STORY CONTEXT lethal force is wrong.

In the case of Steven Universe you apparently don't need action to make a good action show either

The permanence of death isn't the only downside. I gotta imagine it would be painful.

I’m confused, isn’t violence is what makes something action? How do you have action without violence?

>more WWE X scooby doo
>more
I fucking want this

The permanence of death is the predominant downside. The worst of pain can heal eventually.

I would say it would be extremely selfish at best to permanently kill a bunch of people, even if they're attacking you, simply because dying over and over again hurts- as unfair as that would seem.

Yes, just because I can save and load (a staple in every fucking game ever made), I as the player should accept that other characters should just kill me and I should be chastised for fighting back. Here's another game series that directly canonized save and load: Metal Gear Solid, but the game sure as shit doesn't demean you for fighting enemies determined to kill you. Undertale is stupid in this regard. I don't give a damn that pacifism is what they WANT you to go for when, even in the context of the plot, YOU aren't the one going around slaughtering CHILDREN without mercy.

violence in a story is CONFLICT. if your story lacks conflict...

>minions are pretty violent
Are you made out of fucking tissue paper

>I would say it would be extremely selfish at best to permanently kill a bunch of people, even if they're attacking you, simply because dying over and over again hurts- as unfair as that would seem.
See that, right there, is why people complain about how the game forces you into a martyrdom complex.
Not to mention that the threat of permanent death of a sort still exists. There were other humans that fell into the underground and they all got their shit wrecked. Did they not also have save/load powers?

you could probably make some show about some guy going indiana jones on some temples, but without the nazi
just adventuring and traps(not the fun kind)

You just aren't wrapping your head around the game.

Saving and loading are alluded to in Metal Gear in a meta sort of way, as the Metal Gear games have always been married to tongue in cheek self referential humor. At the same time, Snake being able to load after death is not LITERALLY canon. Ocelot may taunt the player with the threat of having to redo a large chunk of the game if you haven't saved in awhile, but ultimately Snake saving and loading has nothing to do with the narrative. When Snake dies, he dies for real, no character even faintly alludes to otherwise when it's time for serious plot discussion.

In Undertale, you semi regularly get talk about determination, you're introduced to a character who explains that saving and loading is a legit power and chides you after the tutorial section for haphazardly going through killing people and saving over it when you weren't forced to do any of that. In under like 30 minutes of play, the game establishes this.

Also the kid is just you, they aren't really established as having any character of their own until the endgame where you let them go and they get control of their body back. Nothing in the game hints or implies that Frisk feels pain or holds the traumatic memories of all those deaths, and it would be a kind of important plot point to bring up if it were the case.

Violence is enjoyable, I don't get why this person doesn't understand that,
It's always satisfying to see scary villains beaten down.
I mean, just look at this.
youtube.com/watch?v=9YSd4nAFKR8 It's the prime example of what I mean.

>just adventuring
>Then wouldn't it be an adventure cartoon instead of an action one?

>The fact that all the monsters are actually just good people kind of kills the weight behind it.
Flower was most certainly not "good people".

Wander Over Yonder does it fantastically because of how fair it is about the whole ideology.

Violence as a last resort is probably the best lesson you can teach in cartoons these days. SU is a prime example, but there's plenty of others where the protagonists tend to wait for danger to come to them first before striking back.

Because he's literally incapable of empathy in that state. Whenever he reverts into his real form, he's shown to be a nice kid, to no one's surprise.

That's like saying everyone on Yea Forums is retarded because of posts like yours. Not exactly fair is it, user?

Does this person perceive that all of society is maintained by the government having the exclusive legal use of force? Sure people probably wouldn't be running around robbing and killing each other without it there, but I don't want to really find out.

also all snakes actually enjoy killing people

adventuring can have action in it, that's what the traps are there for

Was that girl in question a fatty?

This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god.

Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak. Historical law subverts it at every turn. A moral view can never be proven right or wrong by any ultimate test. A man falling dead in a duel is not thought thereby to be proven in error as to his views. His very involvement in such a trial gives evidence of a new and broader view. The willingness of the principals to forgo further argument as the triviality which it in fact is and to petition directly the chambers of the historical absolute clearly indicates of how little moment are the opinions and of what great moment the divergences thereof. For the argument is indeed trivial, but not so the separate wills thereby made manifest. Man’s vanity may well approach the infinite in capacity but his knowledge remains imperfect and howevermuch he comes to value his judgements ultimately he must submit them before a higher court. Here there can be no special pleading. Here are considerations of equity and rectitude and moral right rendered void and without warrant and here are the views of the litigants despised. Decisions of life and death, of what shall be and what shall not, beggar all question of right. In elections of these magnitudes are all lesser ones subsumed, moral, spiritual, natural.

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Why is she shitting on her male friends for suggesting self-defense classes? Pretty much everyone thinks real violence is awful, but you can't just wish it away. Rather, you should learn ways to deter or repel it, so you can take back your autonomy and live without fear. You can't expect the world to do that for you.