>all Sith are given Sith names that are completely different from their real name
>except Darth Maul, whose real name is actually Maul
What's up with that?
>all Sith are given Sith names that are completely different from their real name
>except Darth Maul, whose real name is actually Maul
What's up with that?
Star wars is an awful franchise with no internal consistency
>who is darth Revan
>who is darth Malak
fpbp
Carl Smith
>franchise
Star wars is only three moves from 77-83 and nothing else exists. But also this
*cough*
All Sith LORDS are given sith names, except for Darth Maul for some reason
Ftfy, all non lord Sith keep their regular name
think of it like papal or regal titles. some choose to take a new name representating their position (pious, innocentius, vigilius) some choose to use a real name (john/fabian/felix)
Pope Francis' real name is Jorge though.
Maul was taken as a baby and raised by Palpatine as only ever a Sith. Other people who join the order probably had a life prior to being a Sith and thus that prior identity is "killed" with the taking of a Sith name.
Also why isn't there a Darth Innocentius, that'd be a pretty badass name for a Sith Lord.
Malak's real name is Alek, as close as that is, its still different. Revan is well unnamed, but its still a chosen title.
Ventress is dark force user but was never inducted as a full Sith. Dooku makes this pretty clear.
You have to chop the front off, like Vader. He'd be Darth Nocentius
That actually sounds pretty good. Probably shorten a little to Darth Nocentus
except Revan and Malak weren't their actual names. Those monikers were still derived from other words, Revan = revanchist and Malak = malice. I'm pretty sure this is true for all the "Darth" characters, except Maul. Sometimes they do take titles that are similar to their old names i.e. Kreia = Traya = betrayal
You are correct, she is not a full sith (sith lord), however she is still a sith, as sith is not limited to sith lords
Darth Vigilius is pretty good too.
Did they retcon that?
Last I checked he was Darth Maul for so long he doesn’t know any other identity anymore so he just goes by Maul afterward
I thought Ventress' deal was she THOUGHT she was a Sith apprentice, but Dooku and Sheev were just using her as a tool and not actually letting her have Sith knowledge. Kinda like what Maul was to Sheev and Plagueis in the EU, though I think that's retconned now.
francis' papal name is in honor of a saint. this is an example of the first scenario.
You could chop up any regnal name into a good sith title because the language of the Romans naturally conveys power and authority. Some other examples:
Talionis
Anteru
Xystus
Severin
"Severin" seems a little on the nose, but I suppose this is a universe with a character named Savage Opress.
>Darth Severin
Apprentice to Darth Siouxsie?
This
Revan and Malak are not their real names. Nobody knows Revan's name, but his sith title was adapted from his position as unofficial head of the Revanchist Jedi who went to war with the Mandalorians.
Malak's name is like, Alek or something. Really boring.
No more than "Sidious" or "Tyrannus"
adding to this star wars fans are all shallow pieces of shits and are on par with the sonic fandom
His real name was Icky, first name Darth.
Isn't Revan canonically female? Wait, maybe that was Revya.
Nope, shes officially a sith
(This is just one example and im at work so I wont have the opportunity to reply with more official examples until later on)
Why is that her mission?
Revan isn't even explicitly canon anymore. That topic invariably leads down a dark path that we will not tread.
As far as the term canon goes, something can still be "canon to the Legends universe." I dunno why everyone has this thing where they constantly have to remind people that Legends isn't canon, as if we've somehow forgotten. Anyway I was wrong, Revan is male, it's the Exile from KotOR2 that's female, that's what I was thinking of.
This but also maybe Darth Maul is like Joshua Graham in Fallout where he was just so hardcore that even when Caeser and the rest of the legion changed their names, he stuck by his Christian one.
>whose real name is actually Maul
but it wasn't, his real name his unknown, he just kept "Moul" after he stopped considering himself a sith, and dropped the "Darth"
His real name is probably something edgy like Savage Oppress, so it is better if it is left unknown.
His own mother calls him Maul.
Is this guy samefriending or is there a suddenl influx of Trekkies over here?
I’m not sure which one is more sad!
>the dark side witch that sold him to Palpatine calls him with his dark side name
Gee no wonder.
Ignore them, they'll crawl back to Yea Forums eventually.
hey dipshit, it may surprise you to know that not everyone likes Star Wars beyond the first two films and KOTOR. The trash of SW far outweighs the good at this point.
So what evidence are you presenting to back up your claim that Maul ISN'T his original name?
He's male since he has a kid with that Jedislut.
Last time I saw someone get this defensive I had to pay an alimony check!
He tells Ezra he don't remember his original name anymore.
As best friends with a life long die hard star wars fanatic I've absorbed more info about the series then I've ever wanted to but I've answered more then a few questions on this board. So here's this.
Star wars is written by writers of extreme difference of understanding of the more and how much they care to follow it. As people have pointed out. Oddly enough the way the sith are generally written these practices could apply to their customs in universe. They are not unified in the least and generally don't care about the history of their group. Even their most "sacred" rule of the two is generally shit on by every one of them. They don't have a teaching center like the Jedi or vast archives to look upon. Its just one insane emo kid teaching the next. Basically it's gonna go off the rails real fast
I don't when the last time you played KotOR was but in stated right in the loading screens that Revan and Malak were their real names prior to taking on the title of Darth. I don't care for these shitty retcons made to alleviate a shitty MMO made nearly a decade later.
Based and friendpilled
>friendpilled
Great, I'm going to start seeing this everywhere now? To quote the Chinese guy that people love despite supposedly hating the Chinese, "It's all so tiresome."
You can never escape
In theory the Star Wars lore should be much more unified now since they have a "storygroup" but in practice that's not happening. It probably doesn't help that they have to damage control the prequels all over again because Lucas didn't care about maintaining consistency within his own movies.
What’s your sub?
Reminder that SWTOR Revan is a fake revan.
Any Revan worth their salt would have started the fight by shooting up in stims until their eyes bled, proceeded to exploit path ing glitches to avoid being hurt, and reloaded from a recent save file the second things looked the slightest .bad for them.
Possibly all while taunting players with 300 year old memes.
all this shit was set in stone long before you and tor were even conceived
The virgin unified canon
The Chad Inconsistent Tome of Lore
Jk I hope they unify it more
The KotOR comics are from well before SWTOR
Easy user, he’s just breakin your balls
heh heh heh. darth penis. heh heh.
He already has a cool name, there so no need to change it
Which makes me wonder how Suth names are chosen, are they at random ?
Why did Palestine name Anakin ´Vader' ?
This. It has the depth of a puddle, and half of the EU was dedicated to trying to somehow make this pants on head retarded galaxy actually work
He probably took the word "Invader", took the first two letters off, and thought "Yeah that sounds good."
Think about it, all the Sith Lords are named after things they do.
Force future vision that was in Dutch
>He probably took the word "Invader", took the first two letters off, and thought "Yeah that sounds good."
Well that's exactly how he got his own Sith name. INsidious.
>Darth Zannah
>Darth Millennial
>Darth Cronus
>Darth Sion
>all the goofy names in SWTOR
>Darth Millennial
Holy fucking shit, I thought you made this up. You didn't.
His birth name was "Sheev". Give the poor Emperor a break. Why do you think he joined the Dark Side?
The nuCanon is actually pretty damn consistent. Any issues so far have been relatively minor.
Darth Sion was cool actually. Zombie Sith represent.
star wars has always been stupid, but it's all in good, escapist fun and you should never really take it too seriously as anything other than a series of stylish power fantasies
I've never watched Star Trek but their fans largely seem to take it deathly seriously and i honestly find it kind of annoying
>Darth Vader
Is an invader
>Darth Sidious
Is insidious
>Darth Maul
Mauls people
>Darth Tyranus
Is tyrannical
>Darth Plagueis the Wise
Is a plague but also wise
>Darth Zannah
Is a hosanna
>Darth Millennial
Has existed for millennia
>Darth Cronus
Has power over time
>Darth Sion
Sighs a lot
>Darth Bane
Is the bane of his enemies
>Darth Revan
Wants revenge
It all works.
Even better, it's from before millennial was a widespread term
The point of new names wasn't to sound cool, but so that they discard their old identity now that they are sith. Maul was raised from birth as a Sith named Maul, so there was no reason to change his name.
>Darth InTyrannus
I guess you aren't very Darth Telligent
>Dooku
>Vader's master
Thanks, Darth Tarded.
Power fantasies deserve to be mocked and derided
>Darth Sion
>Sighs a lot
Sure. Let's go with that.
Shouldn't he be Darth Undeadus according to this logic?
it's a human thing to enjoy power fantasies, a massive portion of our pop culture is dedicated to them.
Maul isn't his given name. In rebels he tells Ezra that he forgot his real name and now he is called maul
The comics came within a hair of making him fit the "just take two letters off" mold
More interestingly I now realize that League of Legends ripped off yet another thing from some other property and didn't even have the dignity to change the name, because there's no way it's a coincidence that they made some undead guy called Sion. What a morally bankrupt company. The fact that the game is still going and still making money shows that there is no such thing as karmic retribution in this world.
If he was someone's heir he could be named Darth Sion because he's a scion.
This is Yea Forums. No one understands how things connect with their audience
>Always two there are; no more, no less. A master and an apprentice.
But also sometimes there are 3 - George Lucas 2008
When you think about it, the "they erased the accomplishments of their predecessors" criticism applies to the OT in relation to the prequels, and the prequels in relation to the Old Republic stuff, and so on. So in a way it's not that big a problem because that's just how history works, people are always going to fight and wipe out all the good done by the people who came before them, then other good people have to come along and build things up again, and the cycle continues. The mistake Disney made is that they got greedy and had to have all the old actors brought back, so they erased the accomplishments while those same characters were still alive, and it just felt insulting. If they hadn't been greedy, if they had just told a completely new story about new characters, it would have went over better. They clearly want to. But they refuse to let go of the past because they're not entirely sure if they'll be able to make money. And in the end it hurts them more.
I'm not sure if an audiobook description really goes against all the evidence to the contrary. Ventress had no Sith title, Sheev knew about her (which would make Dooku in flagrant violation of the Rule of Two if she was a real apprentice - When people have secret apprentices, they're secret for a reason) and they always call her an "assassin" not an apprentice.
Sheev outright says to Dooku that he hopes he's not actually trying to train her as an apprentice, and even the suspicion that he might be is what causes Dooku to try and kill her.
This doesn't even rhyme, fuck /pol/ memes.
Darth INtarded?
Fucking read my post again Darth Ading Comprehension. I didn't say removing in- was how ALL Sith got their names, just Vader and Sidious.
It doesn't really apply to the OT and the PT, since the OT just continues off the ending of the PT.
You are getting styled on, my guy
Well it applies within the PT because all that work fighting against the Trade Federation turned out to be for nothing.
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What was his problem?
I played Kotor pretty recently, and Revan's name was Jaden Starkiller on my play through.
Ok, Darth Eptitude
Both of you are fit to bear the name Darth Cel.
It's still a fucking retcon made 3 years after the fact, and pointless one at that.
>Luke, did I ever tell you about Darth Maul? He was Sheev's apprentice before Dooku and your father that used a double-bladed lightsaber. He fought against me and my master Qui-Gon on Naboo, and managed to kill him. Fortunately, even though I was still a Padawan I managed to cut him in half by taking advantage of the fact that he didn't know how to use the High Ground. However, it turned out that his hate somehow allowed him to survive getting cut in half and falling down a bottomless pit, and he somehow managed to escape from Naboo and become a cyborg spider on some other planet. Years later, during the Clone Wars, his brother Savage Opress found him and upgraded his cyborg legs. They went on a rampage across the Galaxy, trying to get revenge both on me and his former master Sheev. It's such a pity that he never told anyone that Sheev was a Sith Lord, that would have saved us a lot of trouble. They eventually took over Mandalore and killed the only woman I had ever loved right in front of me. After that I kind of lost track of him, not sure what became of him. I hope he's doing well, he was a good friend.
I'm more interested to know what the deal was with her
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That's the SW universe equivalent of being named "fag".
>That's the SW universe equivalent of being named "fag".
Isn't it closer to being named "Weed"?
Exactly, a ploy by sheev because he knows the jedi assume theres only 2
4d chess
are you just having obi play dumb or are you genuinely not aware of the fact that maul hunts down obi-wan in rebels and obi counters and kills him in a single attack?
>"What is your name, apprentice?"
>Maul
>"Well shit that's already kinda savage so you can just keep that"
Rebels took place after Obi-Wan met Luke so he wouldn't have known that yet.
what
That and Obi-Wan was nice enough to give Maul a funeral pyre despite him killing his master and girlfriend
>"Well shit that's already kinda savage so you can just keep that"
>You should meet my brother
.... my man. That’s not right at all
Why are you guys forgetting Momin, a sith lord who didn't even have Darth as a title and existed before the Rule of Two era
Momin predates the Darth title. Or at least, that's what I'm assuming, I don't actually read all these comics.
But he wasn't a good friend. Good friends he sets fire to while still alive.
Fucking kek
Acts like he’s answering a question admits he doesn’t really know in the answer. It’s okay Star Wars doesn’t make sense turn your brain off
Classic Obi-Wan mistake, dismembering his enemies, leaving them to die, only for them to return scarred, disfigured, and really angry towards him
>"your brother?, please dont tell me you have other siblings named "feral" or some shit"
>"...."
>"oh for fucks sake really? Jesus christ the male names for Dathomirians suck ass, why cant you have a cool name, like that Female Dathomirian Padawan the Jedi have, fucking "Asajj Ventress", sounds awesome"
t. Darth Potent
>Darth INpotent
OH NO NO NO
Obi-Wan also had a thing for a female jedi,buddy
>Palestine
His only crime was that he wanted to create art no matter how fucked up it was.
Remember when Maul used to be part of a unique race, but then got retconed to just be from Dathomir when Clone Wars came out?
He was the wokest Sith who really liked sideparts with comb overs and was gluten free
Eh, still cool
Lord Moomin might not have let his master live long enough to give him one, it seems to imply he killed her in the middle of his training.
RIPIP Lady Shaa, what is it with SW killing off all the bald hotties? Ventress, Aurra Sing, now this.
Oh so I wasn't imagining that. I remember being confused by that.
Found the Trekkie
You don't remember Emperor Palestine? He fought against Darth Rael.
Now this is shitposting
Fuck, thanks for the kek, I needed that
He was still a Zabrak in Clone Wars, he was just also from Dathomir
This
>part of a unique race
He still is. Dathomiri/Zabrak mix. He's part of a more unique race than he used to be when he was just a Zabrak.
>edgy witch from a planet of Space Satanists gives her kids aggressive names
>Space Satan likes the name and keeps it
Simple ‘as
Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father’s exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems. Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars, and once in a while we’d even have the entire 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half. It was surreal. We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
>It’s an Obi Wan calls Maul an “ogro de las galaxias” episode
They shouldn’t have let Raimi direct
He was a Dathomirian slave.
Luke, did I ever tell you about the Sith Assassin Asajj Ventress?, She was the apprentice to Count Dooku (Who was a Good Friend) and was this Sexy Bald Dathomirian Lady who Dual Wielded Lightsabers. We used to fight all the time during the Clone Wars, and every time we did, Flirting would follow. She even saved my life from Darth Maul (who was ANOTHER Good Friend) and His Brother, Anyway, After she Rescued me, she suggested we let this flirting come to light and fuck, right then and there, after all Sex isnt forbidden for a Jedi, and the council wouldnt miss me for another evening. Ill tell you this Luke, she certainly knew her way around the bed, after all, Nightsister Culture is about Dominating Males, and ill tell you this, she certainly did. She even put on her Nightsister Leathers for me! Made me nut in seconds seeing her in that, She rubbed it all over her Smooth Head!. She was a Good Friend
>His name is Mall because he was born near a Dathomirian shopping center
>Sheev made his name more intimidating when Mall became a Sith
>What's up with that?
Palpatine's asks hey kid what's your name?
Maul Master.
Wait your name is maul?
Well shit that'll work, saves me the trouble of giving you a new name.
>lightsabers are supposed to cauterize the wound
>you can clearly see Shaa bleeding as she's stabbed
How do they still manage to fuck this up?
Remember when Asajj was an alien and not just a pale human?
>Luke did I ever tell you about my good friend Dexter Jettster and his sliders? Sliders were one of the specialties available at Dex's Diner. Like the rest of the food served there, they were greasy and unhealthy, but also cheap and filling. Sliders were small and square. Most were served with Mongo Beefhead patties on trans-shipped medium-density food-boards, although some replaced the patty with another base like firaxan shark fillet, which was used in the Manaan slider. When Dexter Jettster ran the diner, he rejected elaborated preparations, and merely grilled the food-board and perforated it with five holes. Sliders were popular among the diner's customers, and regulars would even travel light-years back to Coruscant to satisfy their cravings for them. To avoid gastrointestinal distress, patrons would often furtively take a mild antidote before eating the tasty food. Sliders were garnished with Dexter's so-called special sauce, to which some visitors accused him of adding small quantities of addictive drugs. He was a good friend.
If all the Jedi were killed then who took this picture? Checkmate atheists.
Except she still is
Her original race was Rattataki, which are literally "Bald Pale Skinned Humans", now shes a Dathomirian, where the females are "Pale Skinned Humans"
Probably just a spurt of blood, happened with Ponda Babbu and Dr Evazon
Might even be burnt blood
theres also Darth Atrius
It happened with Ponda Baba because it is safe to assume that the humans (Anakin, Windu, Luke) and the Humanoid Darth Maul have the same type of circulatory system as we have. This is called a closed circulatory system. Blood circulates through the body via blood vessels (veins and arteries). We have a lot of internal flesh and tissues, which are burned when a lightsaber cuts through. The same for the blood vessels. By burning the blood vessels with a light saber, they are closed which inhibits the bleeding. It is more or less the same as cauterization, an ancient medical practice used to close amputations. Ponda Baba has a completely different anatomy. He has an open circulatory system, like arthropods (Spiders and insects). This means that the blood doesn't flow through vessels, but is collected in a much larger body cavity named the hemocoel. To simplify: Baba is kind of a walking can of blood. A light saber might cut off his arm, but the hemocoel is to large to cauterize. Small blood vessels might be closed by burning the surrounding tissue, but not a big blood cavity.
Based science user
Why did they make Darth Plagueis a banker?
For the love of God, Stop.
Every goddamn thread.
We will never know if Lady Shaa was even human, considering how her entire body was covered by her armor and helmet. Also, humanoids in SW don't work the same way as humans (like how Zabraks have two hearts)
Being Darth Traya's heir is exactly why he's called Sion.
He was called Sion before serving Traya, though
Even the Wook doesn't know what she is. I like her though.
Darth Traya
Betrayer
Betraya
Traya
Plus it rhymes with her real fake name!
was he given the darth title or did he take it for himself?
Given by Sidious
It's not real you retard. The writing staff at Obsidian named all three Sith lords in the game.
Sheev introduces him as Darth Maul in TPM m8, come on.
>This is my apprentice, D’Arth. Maul.
One of the Neimodians was named D’Arth, Sidious was just being polite.
I'm talking about in-canon, silly billy
of course. there 2 by doctrine but there has to be a 3rd one or even 4th one for the transitional period. even with bane Darth Cognus was the 3rd one.
Usually the apprentice taking on an apprentice of their own is what leads to the final confrontation
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Why did they change Palpatine's first name after he revealed it in one of the movies?
I made "Darth Pestilus" in Star Wars Old Republic.
>4% battery
Damn, they let you get outfits like that? I wish this game was free.
Many batteries died to bring us this information.
Is there a mega for Resistance by any chance? I can't find a complete torrent and I can't be arsed to download every episode separately.
It is, but you have to pay for that outfit.
Also the game is terrible.
You could mix and match a lot of outfits. I also made a Mandalorian.
It's Bioware, it's meant to be fucking terrible.
The fact that it still has a subscription to use most of the game's features is insane.
>The fact that it still has a subscription to use most of the game's features is insane.
To be fair, so do WoW and FFXI. However it is equally insane that they do.
>Star wars is only three moves from 77-83 and nothing else exists
I wish.
Why don't you just watch it on kimcartoon?
WoW is a subscription for access to the game itself. SWTOR is a subscription for access to more than two hotbars
Because I'm not disabling my adblocker so Kim Jong Un or whoever can make money off my cartoon watching.
...
Technically right because Obiwan's been "meeting Luke" a few times as a baby, as a kid, as a teen, etc. see comics.
He was born Sheev Palpatine but had to change his name to Frank Palpatine to relate better to the Naboo voters. It’s why he says he “must be Frank”, because it’s the only way he can stay in power and truly achieve his Sith dreams.
>Darth Bane
is he a big guy?
THEY ACTUALLY BROUGHT SHEEV BACK
THE ONE THING EVERYONE TOOK THE PISS OUT OF THE EU FOR DOING, AND THEY'RE SO FUCKED THEY HAD TO DO IT
that was NEVER their names, Jedi Malak was called Marek or something you hear it in-game.
>what is a teaser trailer
Also, people don’t shit on the EU for bringing him back, it’s because he had a whole bunch of clone nonsense.
I'm torn. I love Sheev, and I want to think that all Sheev is good Sheev, but I'm concerned how and what they're going to do with him. Sith don't seem to project force ghosts, but they do seem able to posses objects, and they're clearly going to the wreckage of the second Death Star.
>Sheev has possessed the laser and they have to destroy the second Death Star a second time
I wouldn't even put that past JJ at this point.
If I had to guess?
Chances are he'll be a vision or flashback that's purely trailer bait.
I know Disney has made some absolutely retarded decisions, but bringing back Sheev, in the last act, with absolutely zero foreshadowing, while unceremoniously killing off the discount Sheev the movie before, wouldn't just be retarded, it would be an event horizon no intelligence could possibly escape.
Just like you should SWfaggot, fucking secondary niggers.
yeah it was more the "Back the second time! and a third time!" that people talked shit on.
Having him be secretly behind Snoke would be fine. He basically showed up in the 3rd act of the first trilogy too.
Does Darth Millenial remind every sith of how cool the 90s were ?
>He basically showed up in the 3rd act of the first trilogy too.
No he didn't, what are you on about?
The Emperor existing was established in the first and him being the direct master of Vader was established in the second. Unlike Snoke, he also existed in a vacuum.
Would you ever believe some dude was up and named Maul?
His name was hiding in plain sight.
Yeah, and he existed before the sequels. We didn’t really see him until a brief scene in ESB and then for real in RotJ
I think you're missing the point about their respective places and establishment in the narrative.
Sheev was set up sufficiently in the OT
His potential reappearance is not, because even if it's done via Snoke, Snoke himself isn't sufficiently set up as it is.
>their respective places and establishment in the narrative
Fuck off. Those films went through so many rewrites it's insane that fans are still cobbling the story for the sake of the franchise.
Maybe he thought "Maul" sounded really cool so he changed his name.
Please don't be deliberately obtuse.
his brothers name is Savage Opress....
Disney destroyed what little consistency it had.
>Disney destroyed what little consistency it had.
The EU was so inconsistent, Boba Fett gotten eaten by and escaped from the Sarlaac Pit on three separate occasions, if you take everything as a singular continuity.
And that was long before Disney took over.
Go back to /pol/ if you want to fling shit around.
>critically acclaimed prequel comic that expands on the most important aspects of the game's setting
>disregard because it apparently contradicts two words passively mentioned in a loading screen
post the loading screen
I think originally Maul was Maul because he wasn't supposed to have had a life at all before becoming a candidate.
Then Clone Wars had to come in and do the fucking Lucas thing where every little tiny fucking thing has both an explanation and a raft of connections to everything else no matter how stupid it is.
Actually, yes.
He truly was a phantom menace.
kind of. He also starts wearing a mask he can never take off or his rage fueling armor will kill him
>ctrl+f "Ezra"
>only two correct answers
>and they are ignored
wtf
Yeah that’s what I thought too, because I’m the end how much sith shit could they actually do? Maul never evolved past being pretty good in combat same with Ventress too did they ever learn how to channel force lightening or any other cool sith shit
I would love for them to explore the idea of Sith ghosts.
What would be amazing would be Darth Tenebrous still being alive and having waited until after Palpatine's demise to take control of the Empire. To bolster his forces he finds a way to bend the force to his will (through science) and create a bastardization of force ghosts (maybe call them specters), bringing back Plagueis and Sidious.
Then you could have a final battle in episode 9 between ghost Anakin and specter Plagueis, ghost Luke and specter Palpatine and Rey and Tenebrous, tying all three trilogies up with one final battle of all main jedis and all Sith involved in the creation of the "chosen one"
Pathetic
By that point he had already killed him
I have yet to see a single good Star Wars meme. They're all reddit or Yea Forums tier trash