Is The Flash Conservative?
He like helping people so no.
He tells the truth so no
Probably not, Flash is the ultimate optimist, so he would be more inclined to believe in the spirit of something rather than the reality of it.
No way. He's a good person.
he can't, the flash's ability depends on moving forward. conservatives by definition work to slow the progress of society.
Lmao this thread so much liberal asspain
There're multiple levels of irony going on here.
Different thing now but wouldnt Batman be a nazi since he beats up the mentally ill and dresses in black leather?
iron man and batman are probably conservative.
ironman was born into money, never had to work a real job in his life, and the solution to everything is him having enough money to blast it away.
batman is primarily driven by unresolved parental issues, uses fear, intimidation, and violence as the primary forms of communication, and has obvious homosexual tendancies.
punisher and hawkman are obviously conservative.
punisher is a gun nut who's only drive in life revolves around anger and vengeance.
hawkman is literally a lonely flying giant cock who got bbcucked.
Eh, who cares.
I think its absolutely ok for a character to be Conservative and Liberal. People are still people and they have their own way of thinking.
Yes, but probably the kind of Conservative that stayed home during Election 2016. Same with Hawkman.
Wally was the token conservative of the Titans, back in the days, I don’t know about the others
Hawkman is explicitly conservative, to the point that him and Green Arrow can’t stay in the same room without starting to argue about anything
>to the point that him and Green Arrow can’t stay in the same room without starting to argue about anything
Did that really happened?
It's got to be noted, while he was an asshat and hardliner back in the 70's he mellowed out a lot in the 80's. Mostly because he met a bunch of Russian speedsters, had to spend some time as a homeless guy, and befriended a gay ex-Supervillain.
Barry is a party line towing republican because he's a cop, this is also why he detests Green Arrow, who is more or less an eco terrorist. They only reason they even talk to each other is because they're both friend with Hal.
Green Arrow has a tendency to tick off everyone in the room
Ollie's kind of like how /pol/ would be if /pol/ was Liberal. Almost compulsively unable to stop talking/arguing about politics. So he gets into a lot of arguments with the resident Authoritarian/Republican JLAers in Carter and Barry.
A little after Ollie came back to life he and Black Canary had their first date after his death. Once it was over he walked her home to the JSA base. Just the time for Dana to live him alone and she found him and Hawkman shouting at each other
Absolutely no one is conservative anymore in comics, unless they exist to be a childish strawman that's meant to be torn down.
Comics are as biased as they come at this point, and real life is getting more tense and biased in every single media field since polics are now all of life and dissenting options can't be tolerated without being seen as evil anymore. With pretty much all media being left leaning you're bound to get one "correct" opinion being given to you on a steady stream at all times telling you how to think.. Its kind of a joke if you think a hero could be portrayed as conservative and still good anymore since the writers don't have the objective ability to write something like that anymore without strawmanning it. Even characters who were conservative ten years ago all have renounced it since then.
So comics says that conservatism is a disease that can be cured if you meet a gay guy and some homeless? And anyone conservative is only conservative because they haven't met enough homeless, and you can't hold this political opinion in any reasonable or good faith without just being wrong or mistaken?
This conservative vs liberal is really just an American thing, right? If so, of course, it would leak into comics.
People in my country don't know what the hell a conservative is and when people think about liberal its usually more about foreign policy.
Nobody beats their heads over this, why do people in western countries never seem to get worked up over this?
seem to get*
Civil War showed that Iron Man was a liberal/leftist though. Bad choice.
2 or 1?
The movie tbqh
Used to be
>A Literal Green Arrow
Politics is important when you're the most powerful country on the planet instead of some rinky dink nobody country.
It's pretty universal though, there is people that stands for the tradition and people that stands for progress (or at least what they consider is progress) in any country
Yes, Ollie paints all of his arrows green. Why would he not?
Green as in politically green.
He once imprisoned a man without trial in the form of a living statue without any intention of ever releasing him in a museum dedicated to all the shit that Flash has done, so, yes.
>they're both spitting Green Lantern's cum
Several of his friends came here illegally so no
>This conservative vs liberal is really just an American thing, right?
What do you mean? Europe literally won't shut up about a nonexistent "extreme right"
That does not mean he is not a conservative.
He’s just also hypocrite.
>Inb4 Conservatives are hypocrites
Are there any superheroes whose political orientation can be best described as the following:
"DENKT NICHT AN HUNGER ODER ERSCHOEPFUNG! DENKT NUR AN DAS GROSSARTIGE DEUTSCHE REICH!
DAS PREUSSISCHE VOLK ERWARTET EINEN UNVERGLEICHLICHEN SIEG! LOS, FUR DEN KAISER!"
Thank you and have a nice day
Pretty much, it was like a thing in the Green Lantern/Arrow comic
So a staunch monarchist and a fanatic nationalist?
Not any more, but before the spineless faggots that write comics today took over, it was possible for characters to embody different values and still be heroes.
If your country doesn't have traditionalists then it's probably a very bad country.
Punisher is partially ex-conservative
Iron Man is somewhat neutral now
Rune Thor
Gee it's almost like the idea of superheroes in general is humanitarian and egalitarian in nature and they were invented by two liberal jews trying to spread good sentiment towards immigration and charity
What a fucking shocker
Does anyone else find it sad bipartisanship has become so bad the very concept of a conservative cannot exist in media
Superhero fiction is inhenrently conservative
No matter how you dress the characters' motives or political views, using overpowering force to defeat criminals and sending them to prison is a conservative solution to a more complex problem.
You can also read into the extreme adherance to a status-quo as being conservative too.
>superman was the first superhero.
Also none of those things are exclusively left wing ideals.
>Good sentiment to immigrants.
>charity
>can't be conservative values.
>"might makes right" is a humanitarian and eglitarian concept
If you say so
>This conservative vs liberal is really just an American thing, right?
Sort of. There are conservatives and liberals in other democracies but they have basically nothing to do with the American versions.
Sane country: Left wants more change faster, Right wants no change or change at an ultra slow pace. Both sides support common sense legislation like national health care, environmental protection, gun control, etc.
America: Left is neoliberal economically and slightly right of center socially. The party constantly in-fights over whether health care should be nationalized and focuses on wedge issues it can't or won't fix because it gets Americans mad. The Right is neoliberal economically and barely disguised racism and contempt socially. At this point their entire party is based on a revolving door of half-baked slogans and political scapegoats
Modern American conservatism is about as far from egalitarian as humanly possible. There's a reason people summarize the conservative American philosophy as "fuck you, I got mine"
>sane countries support big governent and limiting the right to arm yourself
But that's true of all American politics not just republicans.
Even your socialists are just greedy parasites
Ironically, conservatives have become so cartoonish in their behavior that putting one in a comic breaks suspension of disbelief
>BIG GUBMENT SCARES ME OOOOH
>PLEASE JUST LET ME GET RAPED BY PRIVATE INTERESTS THE IDEA OF FUNCTIONING GOVERNMENT IS TERRIFYING
Brainlet
Maybe an oldschool conservative. The kind that weren't afraid of the browns and blacks and judged people by their character rather than their skintone. The kind that didn't believe in collectivist labels for people and individualism.
>iron man and batman are probably conservative.
batman and batgirl are obviously democrat leaning characters these days. at least in the comics
*collectivist labels for people, but individualism
Non American here. That's just your two party system. All your politics is a clown world.
Private interests don't want to rape you, they just want your money. Governments on the other hand want your money as well as wanting to enforce their moral agenda upon you.
The point of a democracy is to find the correct middle ground to all these problems
>private interests don't want to fuck you they just want money
And the most expedient means of making and retaining money happens to be rape.
>the government wants your money!
In the form of reasonable income-tiered taxes to pay for shit you need like roads and bridges and hospitals
>they want to FORCE morality on you!
The fuck?
Goddamn libertarians are always retarded
>born into money never had to work a job in his life
>conservative
I take it you never went to college
Retard
When one side goes "Nationalizing healthcare would save everyone money including the government and would prevent massive economic meltdown in the case of a widespread health emergency as well as prevent individual cases of unnecesary bankruptcy" and the other side goes "REEEEEE NO BIG GOVERNMENT YOU LIVE IN A FANTASY NO HANDOUTS BTW SUBSIDIZE MY PET INDUSTRY OR I'LL KILL EVERYTHING YOU EVER PROPOSE WITH INSANE RIDERS" it's kind of hard to compromise.
Even a first year debate student could tell you that Americans in law and politics pretty much never act in good faith. You're encouraged from day 1 to sell your beliefs and work the system mercilessly.
>I'm poor
The guy sitting in starbucks sipping chai lattes while writing on his imac is a middle class kid who is deep deep in debt.
"Born into money" means something different outside the trailer park, bubbs
Most restrictions caused by governments today are done at the behest of interest groups
Britbong here. The NHS is a good thing but has bloated itself with ineffective spending so much we need a drastic reform.
A proper conservative action to solve a problem cause by big government.
So how’s Ollie able to get along with Hal who sometimes is vaguely conservative like Barry?
He's closer to a right-leaning centrist that wishes he could be the guy John Wayne played in movies, so he's less intolerable.
Sounds like you're referring to the modern day liberal democrats. So judgemental, they accuse any brown person who isn't 100% left of being an Uncle Tom.
No, but Green Lantern is.
Russians, you forgot Russians
>>The Right is neoliberal economically and barely disguised racism and contempt socially.
>most powerful country on the planet
>Americans actually believe this
>conservative vs liberal
>You can't walk 12 steps in america without this shit being shoved in your face
ITS ALL JUST SO FUCKING TEDIOUS
>Left is neoliberal economically and slightly right of center socially. The party constantly in-fights over whether health care should be nationalized and focuses on wedge issues it can't or won't fix because it gets Americans mad. The Right is neoliberal economically and barely disguised racism and contempt socially. At this point their entire party is based on a revolving door of half-baked slogans and political scapegoats
I've never read anything more wrong in my entire fucking life.
This.
>tfw the Guardians of the Universe have to make budget cuts in order to reallocate resources to LanternCare
Yes.
He's a whitebread, midwest, rule of law and common sense all American boy.
>Europoor thinks he understands Freedom
Daily reminder that your saltiness makes us laugh on the daily while you guzzle down our culture like the non entity you are.
The problem you and everyone else ignores is cultural. Americans value hardwork. It's part of our national identity. Healthcare being provided by work has been the standard for decades, so in America when you don't have healthcare it's seen less as a need and more of a you're not working hard and are a failure. Now that being said the system is flawed due to company exploitation and super inflation of healthcare costs. Of course the flip side of that and the one thing I hate more than anything else (which you did not do so props) is this laughable idea that nationalized = free and it won't mean Americans pay more and some of us get less. Those are just facts, if you are upper middle class nationalized healthcare will lower the quality simply by making availability go down. Now is that acceptable? Depends entirely on the person, additionally funding such an undertaking is not going to be cheap, it will require either 1) significant budget changes and some programs being completely removed, or 2) a large tax hike. I'll give you a guess as to which things tax payers hate the most (it's those things).
Wally is.
Barry probably not.
The only way Superman wasn’t the first superhero is if you stretch the definition to include the various pulp heroes of the 30s, or that Japanese hero whose name I forget.
The only conservatives who have welcomed immigrants were fiscal conservatives looking for an easy source of cash. Otherwise they’ve always taken the “these people are too different from us, they won’t assimilate and will harm our society”.
every american superhero must hate, dispise, or be disappointed by nazis, and dictators. this is the most i think we can gather from comics.
everything else i think is more about protecting humanity, or their patch of it.
while they often twart bankrobbers and thieves.
yet they dont seem to be beneath stealing from the bad guy themselves.
kinda sounds capitalistic.
alot of the big superheroes feature family very prominently in their stories.
Yes
Everyone who says "no" clearly doesn't read comics
Flash is genius, more so than Green Lantern. Read comics.
The US is pretty much the only country that doesn’t support those things.
Because Hal's willing to listen to him. Barry and Carter, not so much.
>Americans value hard work
Bullshit, Americans value net worth. America has always been the land of the con man.
>If you can't afford health care it means you're not working hard enough
Literally Koch propaganda
>If you nationalize healthcare, quality of care will go down
The vast majority of Americans go without care at all even when covered. Those well off enough to not care about cost already go to private practices and will not see a change in QoC
>Funding
There is already a budget for health care and nationalizing would so dramatically reduce expenditures of that budget that only a nominal increase in taxes would be necessary, and taxes are way too fucking low as it is.
Once upon a time, having different politics didn't require you to hate the other person.
We are much wiser now.
No, he's a hero. You can't be both.
Those might be conservative values in your country, but they haven't been conservative values in the US for at least thirty-five years.
American here. You are correct.
We haven't been dethroned yet, but only the deluded think we never will.
It's because of them that we're resting on our laurels instead of fighting tooth and nail to keep the top spot.
American-style conservatives are already pretty extreme by european standards. In Europe even the democrats would be considered right-leaning. This is without bringing up ACTUAL extremists, which absolutely do exist
If you were paying attention you would be watching it happen every day. Trump's foreign economic policy is basically just handing the world markets over to china and selling state secrets to the Saudis
> saves money
Oh no no no...
> inb4 Koch survey
The findings assumed that administration will stay constant, see such a bureaucracy would lend itself to bloating
>man why is it so hard to write a character people will see as a moral authority and force for good that also is ok with stripping babies from their parents and putting them in cages
The world may never know
Batman is probably a corporate democrat. Almost a centrist. Iron man was almost definitely a conservative, but likely made the shift to far left democrat after becoming a superhero. Also futurists tend to be liberal. Punisher was a conservative but now he iprobably doesn’t give a fuck about politics beyond realizing nearly everyone is corrupt. Hawkman is conservative as fuck.
Trump has put more economic pressure on China then any administration in the past 30 years, the fuck are you on about? They're a paper tiger right now, dealing with a recession and a pig blight
Yeah, he did a great job fucking over American farmers with his brainless cock posturing.
Our efforts to subsidize the basedbeans in the meantime averted disaster, our farmers will be fine and we'll soon be selling rice to China as well
>a nationalized healthcare system might itself begin to bloat
Which is a legitimate concern to bring up when it happens. It's also considerably less dire than "75% of the country is one injury away from bankruptcy" or "inflation is so insane that a drug that costs pennies to manufacture and dimes to purchase is invoiced at hundreds of dollars"
>Trump has put economic pressure on China
Trump has put economic pressure on American products and processed materials made with foreign raw materials, further crushing his supposedly-darling American manufacturing.
Tariffs would be a great fucking idea if any of the raw materials we get from China were still produced here but that's not the case, and in order for tariffs on consumer goods to be enough to actually incentivize the purchase of American goods you'd be massively reducing the purchasing power of the working poor (read: a shitload of people) and hamstringing the US economy.
Details matter
We nearly held off on butchering our cattle this year because the beef market was fucked. Most small farmers can’t handle a year without profits.
They have not been American values period since the 70ies
Actually. Neither are right wing just corporate shills.
Right wing means traditionalism and strong national values.
For America to have a national health service you need to actually draw up what the fuck the plan is for it.
Trying to cover every single medical cost for everyone is why the NHS is close to breaking
Right wing means “new ideas bad, i miss the 50s” and that’s it.
Just need to cut bloated military spending and raise taxes on the wealthy. There, now you have your funding plus extra.
People are allowed to harm themselves.
>raise taxes on the wealthy
Won't work. Never does. They always find a way to push the taxes onto the other classes.
>For America to have a national health service you need to actually draw up what the fuck the plan is for it.
We had one at the ACA table and it got rejected out of hand not only by republicans but by chickenshit "moderate" democrats.
No fewer than fucking 16 comprehensive plans have been prepared for nationalized healthcare since the 80's. This is not some new fucking frontier, we've been doing the math for this for 40 goddamned years and every time we re-check we go "yup, we'd solve a million problems with minimal need for funding. Want to vote on it?" and the answer from congress is a resounding "FUCK OFF"
I’m sure rich people are as politically diverse as everyone else, but they all vote conservatively so they can conserve their money.
>man the wealthy keep pushing taxes off themselves by doing shit like convincing people to drop estate taxes in exchange for a legal state lotto
>should we stop that by codifying a tax specifically for their income bracket that they can't get around or trick people into removing?
>nah fuck that there's no point
> Which is a legitimate concern to bring up when it happens
It's not a might. Find me a single agency that hasn't bloated. Frankly, we are already on thin ice with 23 trillion in debt and neither side is interested in fixing the issue. I don't buy that this isn't an issue. I'll admit, I'm sympathetic to nationalized healthcare
> inflation is so insane that a drug that costs pennies to manufacture and dimes to purchase is invoiced at hundreds of dollars
This is legit bullshit, our big pharma needs to burn
> Trump has put economic pressure on American products and processed materials made with foreign raw materials, further crushing his supposedly-darling American manufacturing.
Trump's deregulations are offsetting these issues. We've had hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs created without using Chinese raw materials. I've seen no evidence to suggest that the tariffs are doing more harm to offset the good being done in the short run. Hopefully, trade can resume as normal when Trump and Xi work out a deal
Raise taxes too high and they'll flee. Look at France or New Jersey.
>cut a profitable tech industry
>tax the people generating wealth
>This is your plan for healthcare
So your an is to allow as much bloat as possible by simply being a money siphon?
The NHS was started to save money for the country. You want to jump right to the modern NHS
>codifying a tax specifically for their income bracket that they can't get around or trick people into removing?
You write it and I'll vote for it.
>It's not a might.
I didn't say it was a might. I said bring it up when it happens.
>national debt/deficit matters
National debt is not a fucking credit card. There's no one calling it in. Please take a macro econ course before talking about that.
>against cutting military budget
>"profitable tech"
The bloat in the military budget isn't DARPA, it's massive orders to private companies for materials and equipment that's completely unnecessary and will literally sit on a tarmac for five years before being sold to some hillbilly police department so they can bust a small-time pot dealer with a fucking tank
I like the proposal that would tack on a 7% tax on any companies profits if they exceed one hundred million dollars. That forces successful companies to either raise their employees wages in order to preserve their profit, or pay the tax and help fund a single player healthcare system. Obviously it isn’t the only change that is needed, but it would definitely help.
Defenders contractors are the biggest scam in the world. The military budget is insanely over bloated. Like that time the government spent 500 million dollars to train 4 dudes in Syria that eventually went on to do nothing. It’s almost like that money wasn’t going there and instead entering some wealthy persons pockets. The United States military is the largest money laundering institution on the planet.
>Defenders contractors
Yeah, that damn Dr Strange!
He cares about people other than himself or those look like him, so no.
The ancient one funnels funding from the dark dimension.
Today the US Army ordered fifty thousand "Thanos copters" from an unknown Defenders contractor.
Nighthawk’s accountant at it again!
Are these the same guys making those helicarriers? Each of those things cost more than billion dollars, and all they ever do is crash on top of cities. It’s not like you can’t just fit the superheroes on a jet.
It’s not “might makes right” it’s might FOR right.
What makes you think Bruce leans Democrat these days? I haven't really followed anything Batman recently, but in Injustice he claimed to have voted for a Republican, and being a rich businessman he probably prefers the GOP and does private philanthropy himself through Wayne Foundation charities. Babs used to be apolitical or a right wing policeman's daughter, but the new52 completely changed some elements of her character when she turned into a hipster with transgender friends and got blacked. The Luke Fox/Babs pairing wasn't that bad/unrealistic though. Whatever happened to it? Are they still together or did it only last a few issues?
With how mentally unstable Bruce is being written these days, it's impossible to determine his stance on politics.
>but in Injustice
Pretty sure the only character in Injustice who wasn't wildly out of character was Plasticman.
Batman being autistically against killing anyone is in-character. Superman just snapped after Lois died, and Wonder Woman was just more militaristic like in Flashpoint. It's an elseworld, but I wouldn't say they were wildly out of character, with the obvious exception of Supes.
He’s a cop and constantly bickers with Green Arrow. Wally used to be conservative and he likely got the opinions from Barry.
He’s 100% Conservative. It just can’t be portrayed today.
>Wonder Woman
>more militaristic
>not wildly out of character
I doubt he wants to mass exodus immigrants because “a couple might be bad”. Superheroes inherently protect people over anything else.
I never said he did. I’m conservative and frankly, I don’t give a shit.
Superman is literally an immigrant story, same with America. You're not some commie are you son?
That's the point. Superman is trying to restrict what people are allowed to do or own to protect them. Flash takes that thought to its logical conclusion. Arrest anyone who speeds in a car since its unsafe. Hell, take away cars since they cause massive amounts of death and destruction including destroying the environment. The point is simply that superman can't put the world in a bottle without tyrannizing it.
>People are allowed to harm themselves.
Smoking also hurts anyone else who breates in the smoke.
Dude nazi sience was known for its progress.
>What makes you think Bruce leans Democrat these days?
attitudes towards issues like gun control, gentrification, poverty and institutional racism. batman is a democrat just like the people writing him. he basically turned into green arrow.
The thing that makes Superman's argument even slightly interesting is that he represents an impossible level of energy - the kind of pure power that would enable the impossible rhetoric of a dictator possible.
Superman literally could provide the entire planet's energy, food, crime-prevention, etc needs. In that scenario the idea that you'd never need a weapon for self defense is plausible
based
>In that scenario the idea that you'd never need a weapon for self defense is plausible
Yes, you'd need. Against Superman.
Yes. Both Barry and Wally are conservative but different types.
Barry is a family values kind and Wally is a pro capitalism, small government kind. They are both pro death penalty.
Conservatives only want illegal immigrants out you stupid npc
>>born into money never had to work a job in his life
Sure sounds like Trump there.
>>never had to work a real job in his life, and the solution to everything is him having enough money to blast it away.
So... A leftist?
No
>Left
>want to take freedoms away from rich, white and men
>right
>don’t want that to happen
I would know, I voted lib until I actually realized that the patriarchy and institutionalized racism are a myth. It’s literally the belief in the above two that inform all modern liberal thinking.
And legal Immigrants that pray to the wrong god.
I don't think "a couple are bad". I think all of them are bad.
Fuck off, we're full.
Shut up, cumskin.
What makes a 4 year old bad?
What about Wally?
>This very simplistic view of both the left and right
Am I in high school again lmao?
>if I pretend to have been liberal at one point, I can trick everyone.
No liberal would ever think people losing everything because they were unlucky enough to get cancer, keeping children in cages because “oops your parents brought you here”, or spending billions on walls that won’t work because most drugs already come through legal checkpoints are okay. Nobody is saying “gee whiz, I voted for Obama, but this trump guy sure seems level headed and competent, I bet he has everyones best interest above his own”
Only because their god tells them to kill people dipshit
>keep children I cages
Nice not meme. Separating parents from offspring is standard when he parent committed a fucking crime.
>wall won’t hurt
Another nod meme. The wall will help stop millions of illegals from crossing. Libtards are all feels and no brain.
But it’s true. Liberals hate capitalism because it’s racist and sexist since minorities and women (except Jews and Asians but let’s ignore that) don’t do as well. If you are for the wall you are racist. Literally everything is about gender or race for these crazies.
>kids somehow not in cages
What did the kid do to belong in a chain link pen smaller and more packed than a prison?
>what is a ladder and/or shovel?
The gang members come across the borders in real check points. The vast majority are either looking for work, or trying to escape literal criminal war zones. I wouldn’t keep a kid in a place that isn’t safe. It makes perfect sense to try and leave.
I’d be fine with the wall if it were made as a single, massive, solar/wind farm. That way it serves an actual purpose.
Now picture Superman saying this to a crowd where all the woman are forced to wear burkas or they're beaten with rocks.
Superman supports American culture like a good conservative.
>People allowed to use something to harm themselves.
>People aren't allowed to use something to protect themselves
Typical.
What about him?
Actually, it's "Fuck you, I earned mine and you have to earn your own."
>it's another "Yea Forumsmblr can't let people have all of 5 Conservative characters, while pushing their "totally a fag in denial" headcanons" thread
Really? There used to be, at best, 10 or so Conservatives in comics. Of course now everyone's a Far-Leftie. Funny Book "writers" can't bear anyone not being exact copies of their mindset. But let the anons have their 10 Conservatives in a single thread. You have the rest of the board to trannypost in. Jesus...
>inb4 "muh conservatard"
Not American, and not a Conservacuck. I'm just tired of the Yea Forumsmblr invasion.
>muh "Yea Forums is love"
Nah, things have obviously changed, and you'd have known it if you were here for more than half a year. The last two or so months have been atrocious.
Modern-day conservatism is little more than xenophobic nationalism and politicized spite
Not exactly heroic qualities
Not a lot of powerful actual socialist in American politics. None, in fact.
Even that Cortez chick is BARELY European Centrist, which is pretty far from socialist even though a party of failed political majors who don’t actually know what the terms they use mean anymore because they’re overly reliant on shitflinging and praising Jesus think she’s one.
The word xenophobic gets tossed around a little too easily. Some cultures are just bad news.
>Some cultures are just bad news.
Yeah, just about any culture that fosters conservatism
Weird how that keeps happening
>Even a first year debate student could tell you that Americans in law and politics pretty much never act in good faith. You're encouraged from day 1 to sell your beliefs and work the system mercilessly.
It’s why I don’t believe in “taking the high road” really; we kind of life in a society that encourages undercutting everyone at the soonest possible juncture.
>Modern-day conservatism is little more than xenophobic nationalism and politicized spite
Yeah, because not waning literal whos from bumfuck nowhere in Africa to come in and live off the gibs of my taxes is evil...
>Not exactly heroic qualities
Fine, sure. Why should Mr "I want everyone to get along" Super-Hero be anything other than a Naive Liberal? But why should the anti-hero not be a Conservative? I mean, if you just think Liberals are Heroes, then having the "violent" or "selfish" guy, like Punisher or Stark, be a Conservative would be a-okay, right? Why go the extra effort of taking those 10 characters in all of comicdom and making them the same as everybody else?
Ones in charge are forced to be responsible and every meal can't be ice cream.
When you liberals get past 30, you'll start to understand. Maybe start taking off life's training wheels and support yourselves.
>Turning to Yea Forums for political values.
Might as well ask a 5-year-old about his opinion on the current tax laws.
batman is a massively wealthy person who beats up the poor and mentally ill and then turns them over to the police, knowing that they're going to be further traumatized and brutalized in "prisons" like blackgate and arkham.
he's definitely conservative.
Tell me more about how you support a criminal out of spite, and then justify it with empty platitudes
>assumes all liberals are “Muh gibs” unemployed losers
I grew up in a rural area and the hypocritical conservatives on government gibs far outweigh the liberals. That’s mostly due to the liberals going to college and getting employment however.
Everyone wants Hal's cock.
Nowhere on Yea Forums is a good source of political information. Everyone is a reclusive weirdo engaging in constant double think.
DONALD TRUMP IS THE MASTER OF MAN HE ALWAYS HAS A MASTER PLAN
Donald Trump is a Hero. The greatest of them all. Donald Trump is a hero. With him we will never fall.
Barry Allen was traditionally conservative, but since they rebooted him into a modern character he will certainly be liberal enough to fit within the writers' comfort zone.
He was always very hard line and cop-like in the past but they've reduced his cop like behavior to play up a new "detective" scientist angle.
TRUMP IS KING LET US SING
Wally hasn't been conservative since he married Linda, man.
Honestly there is absolutely no reason Barry Allen wouldn't support Trump. He is the fastest man alive and Trump is the greatest man alive. They have so much in common. For instance they're both super heroes.
He was being controlled by a racist ghost iirc.
The Ghost of the Democrats. Because the Democrats were the ones to start the KKK and are easily the most racist people in the world. All liberals.
True, there was never a paradigm shift. It didn’t happen.
This is very true. Not only were democrats the creators of the KKK, one of the most violent and vicious organizations of America,they are in fact all racists too. Democrats are easily the most racist people in the world. God I hate liberals. They're all hypocrites! Every last one of them!
It didn't. Never did. The only ones telling you otherwise is the liberals in the news. It's all fake news.
Liberals literally worship Satan. Hows that for a paradigm shift? They're all monsters. Every single one of them. President Trump needs to start the systematic eradication of them. Ide join his great army of Justice. DEUS VULT!
man can you get out of here and go back to /pol/
like seriously your shtick isn't funny or fresh
WAAA ANYTHING I DISAGREE WITH IS /pol/. This is why the world laughs. The truth is right in front of you and you fight it. Why are leftists so willfully ignorant?
Fuck you libcuck. You libtards need to realize that you aren't wanted here. /pol/ or not, Yea Forums is NOT for libtard cucks like you! Go back to le ddit or tumblr if you're so easily triggered.
It has nothing to do with disagreeing or anything, but this is fucking Yea Forums and you're not talking about comics or cartoons in the slightest, just regurgitating the most generic /pol/ posts imaginable.
You couldn't be more of an insecure faggot if you tried.
>conservatives
>exhibiting selfless behavior
lmao
>Thinks that normalfag boomer platitudes are /pol/
God I fucking hate Yea Forums and how out of touch and completely retarded it is. Discussing politics on Yea Forums is like watching Boomers who get all their arguments and views from MSNBC or Fox News argue about politics. We hate niggers and want them deported or dead. We're not "dems are the real racists" Boomercons you fucking retard.
Political discussion on Yea Forums is almost entirely within the overton window to a degree where you get more informed and self aware discussion on fucking Reddit or Tumblr. You're all retarded and a stain on Yea Forums as a whole.
He also polluted the environment on a multiversal scale when he time traveled and caused Flashpoint to happen.
Fuck off, don’t pretend old /pol/ is nu-/pol/
Old /pol/ would never have showed that much support for Yang, you nu-/pol/ fucks are an embarrassment
Yang threads are completely dead after the paid shilling stopped.
My point that Yea Forums is basically Boomer tier discussion stands. I feel like i'm on Facebook when you retards talk politics.
>We hate niggers and want them deported or dead
Well that's even more cringe.
t. nigger
People who think the cop isn’t part of the Pro-Cop party:
>pro-cop party
Do you think Democrats are anti-cop or something? Only fringe activist movements are legitimately anti-cop. Democrats are basically just Republicans but with gay marriage.
Not specifically but retards like BLM and Antifa who run around in the name of Democrats are anti-cop. They’re pretty outspoken. I just think if I was a cop they’d make me shy away from the Democratic Party.
which proves that they only exist in fantasy
The Flash doesn’t?
yeah, how dare they rightly criticize cops for gross abuses of power and a near total lack of accountability
Since when have riots been criticism?
what other recourse do people have when cops shoot an unarmed person and then get investigated by other cops who hardly ever find any wrongdoing
peaceful protests rarely amount to shit because they can be ignored easily. govt only cares when you start fucking with their money, which you can accomplish via riots and strikes
What are they supposed to do? Call the Police?
They had a whole buddy cop arc?
Never actually bothered reading it though.
Eh, Hal's usually the one caught in the middle as a centrist between the two.
Which is a little odd because Hal is dyed in the wool military to his core. Dad was a fighter pilot, he was too, enamored with the whole lifestyle. You'd expect he'd be more conservative than Barry.
>I earned mine
Kek
There are plenty of rich conservative kids who're quite happy to be smug bastards.
They're mostly contained to privileged schools on the coasts and very expensive colleges (to keep the poors away). Then they get jobs in media, finance management or start VC fishing for their big disrupting idea.
If you had all the time in the world to think and could be anywhere at once, you would be.
>protects his homeland from alien invaders wanting to destroy it
Sounds conservative to me.
yikes
it wasn't immigration it was conquest
fuck off, the entirety of the third world being imported into the U.S.A is not the same as Britain conquering shit and then getting it's ass kicked by the french and some drunken libertarians (who are nothing like modern liberals)
t. would import shitloads of christian whites into non christian countries to increase (((diversity)))
cross the border illegally.(P.S, all illegal immigrants should be shot or detained.)
also fuck off we have no obligation to protect random people from below the rio grande
Flash was a conservative. Green Arrow was the bleeding heart liberal.
Barry grew up in Ohio, had a decently structured life and deals with degenerates murderers in his day job as a CSI. so yes that'd make sense for him to be somewhat conservative.
>it's not the same because they murdered people for control instead of just moving in and participating in pre-existing society
Not making a good case for yourself.
Coming to the border to seek asylum is 100% legal. You are just trying to change the perception of the law when your own president admits he asked border patrol agents to break the law with promises of a pardon. Your side is openly contemptuous of the law.
lol what
Most Americans are anti-cop regardless of political leaning. No one likes those dumb brutish cunts anymore except rich fucks who can avoid them entirely.
>Hawkman was cucked
Only in the DCAU fucking retard
>profiting and thriving as a result of my ancestor's immigration while denying that right to others begging for asylum is evil
Yes.
>want them deported or dead
So why aren't you doing anything? You could always go to your local black neighborhood and start shooting but i don't see you faggots doing anything but complain.
You should. It is great.
>>You can't walk 12 steps in america without this shit being shoved in your face
Guess this must be the reason why Americans don't walk
>Superman is an illegal immigrant
>none of his fellow Justice Leaguers turn him in
>not even the conservative members
Thus proving that the only actual conservative value is "Rules for thee, not for me."
I didn't immigrate anywhere asshole. I'm a European. My people have been here since forever. Christ...
Sorry, then you benefit from your ancestors colonizing, exploiting and raping the nations of the third world.
No way, Barry probably voted Jeb
I know it's b8 and all, but my nation was enslaved for 400 years, (you) s0isipping cunt.
How the fuck would you, physically, "turn Superman in".
Ever heard him criticise Israel?
If yes, he's not a Conservative.
N-noah? I follow you on twitter.
Ayan Hirsi Ali is also an immigrant story.
Kryptonite-laced handcuffs.
tell ICE where his parents live - before you know it his dad would be in handcuffs, his mom would be shot and his dog tazed so much it smells like BBQ.
real powerful content you got there boys
>the true intellectual: Libertarian
wtf i hate open border now?!