Doctor Sivana > Lex Luthor

As true as OP is, Lex is a pretty low bar to jump.

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>Kryptonite is a radioactive element that severely weakens Superman.
>"Hmmm... I don't feel like Kryptonite is hurting me, maybe it's safe around humans?"
>"I know! What if I just put in my pocket in case Superman ever shows up!
>*Gets Cancer*
>"THIS IS YOUR FAULT SUPERMAN!"

-10 IQ lex is a 6th level intellect are you shitting me?

>Ask the ball if you're man enough to throw me out of this room.

I was grinning like a fucking idiot when the guy got launched out the window.

We need virgin Lex now

So how were The Seven Deadly Sins of Man going to inevitably fuck over Sivana? Sure they were free from The Rock of Eternity, but they were still bound by The Magic Eye. They still needed a human host, a champion

That's a low bar to clear in the MCU, user.

Anyone notice one of the Seven Deadly Enemies of Man was just Gargos form Killer Instinct?

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Once he absorbed the power of Shazam into the eye, I imagine they’d either powerful enough to abandon him and no longer needed a host, similar to how the wizard Shazam was an actual dude and not a statue or bound to someone. Then they’d wreak havoc like they did when Black Adam set them free in that little light show demonstration

Btw, did anyone else notice the camera focusing on the homeless guy who looked like a white version of the Wizard Shazam?

I was sure the ending was gonna reveal he was alive and watching the whole time via disguise or something, and that he was the homeless dude

>Lex and Sivana have the same father

Why does he keep having bald sons

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Also Envy reminded me of Classic Sivana, I was so sure, he’d disfigure him

Bald sons are also big fuck ups too.

Doubtful because if that were the case The Sins would have tricked Sivana into absorbing The Wizard's power then and there instead of leaving The Rock of Eternity. The desire for Billy's power was all Sivana. I think the case here is that The Seven Sins lost the ability to act independently, and their only option was to use a human host to live out their chaotic nature. Since Sivana just wanted to rule the world and resolve petty vendetta's, they though he was the best candidate since he allowed them to do almost whatever.

What is even the appeal of Luthor? I never liked him. Fucking Batman was a better Superman villain than Luthor.

>"Hmmm, this machine might just warp physics enough to hurt Captain Marvel"
>"Then again, you know what hurts little boys, which he sometimes is? Plain old ordinary knives!"
>"Lets just sneak into his house and shank the fucker while he sleeps"
>*doesn't work, doesn't have cancer*
>"Whelp, maybe next time. *walks through prison walls with math*

Sivana has to be at least 12 level

>we'll never get a midget Sivana
I'm sad now.

it's the angle of a man with a god complex humbled by a being who is not only inherently superior to him insofar as physical ability is concerned, but who is ultimately selfless and virtuous- a better person altogether.

also pic related

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I’m only basing this on that history lesson Shazam gave about Black Adam setting the seven sins free and them wreaking havoc. I assume Adam fell to the same temptation Sivana did, only Adam had superpowers from the start so it was even worse

I don't think that's what happened at all with Adam given his character. It's likely that Teth released The Sins from their original Ark of the Covenant looking prison out of vengeance for his family like a ancient super weapon. Black Adam's movie is supposed to pull from Dark Reign, so he probably committed genocide to kill the invaders of Kandaq who killed his family and occupied his homeland thousands of years ago, and didn't care about the consequences or thought he could control them with his own power. Hell for all we know Adam made the eye to undo his mistake and was still banished

god damn it Lex.

That is why Sivana is awesome and Lex is stale bread.

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I don't know, user. A big horned, winged demon is a common trope.

Alright show of hands, should Dr. Sivana be the stand in for Lex Luthor in the DCEU Legion of Doom? Because I'm thinking
>Doctor Sivana
>Black Manta
>Captain Cold
>The Cheetah
>Deathstroke
Is a good start. Because I got to tell you, I'm not looking forward to Jesse's Lex barking orders to a room full of more dangerous and more qualified super villains

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Mr. Mind should be the leader.

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>We live in a world where the main DC bad guy is not Lex but Sivana
Not really into this idea but I honestly want to see Captain Cold call him "Bodog".

Nah, let him shine in Shazam 2 along with Black Adam when he crosses over from his own solo. Doctor Sivana is a Legion of Doom regular already, just not usually associated with the top rank. Also Sivana arguably has more genius in both science and magic than Lex, especially the DCEU version.
Yeah I'd be into that. Cold would just be the smartass of the group just there to get paid and fuck with The Flash

Science Squad was good too I love all of them.
DC should really bring them back.

He's obviously better in the movies due to being cast well and having a much, much better script to work with, but he's also just a lot more fun in the comics. That's because while Luthor and Action Comics in general are more sci-fi focused, Sivana is a sci-fi character in a world of magic and whimsy. He winds up being more like Sons of Aether mage than an actual scientist, which gives him a lot more room for antics and evil than Luthor can be afforded. Since this movie was based on Curse of Shazam I don't mind that he was different from what I'm used to, especially since it requires less explanation for what he does. That said, I do kind of wish he had been a little weakling who became not just strong like Billy but also big, since that is something classic Sivana was known to do.

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High functioning autism

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I'd love it if when Twink Lex was giving a spergy speech to the Legion he notices Mr Mind crawl up onto his desk and while he's staring at it Sivana shoots him in the back of the head.

>"I blew his mind! OHOHOAHAHAHA!!!"

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Not as impressive when you realise he did it by cheating

Just retcon Luthor's character into being mind controlled by Mr. Mind or something. I mean, creating a super monster to kill all the heroes and then leaving him running around fucking up everything else is something Mr. Mind would do

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Yeah, I was expecting something more pompous, maybe a big speech or something, but he just fucking throws him out the window. It was brilliant.

You just explained what makes Sivana so much better than Luthor

But making Lex act like a complete spaz isn't something he'd do. Furthermore, no amount of retcon is going to fucking fix Jesse Lex or the plot to BvS

You also see Mr Mind trapped in the jar at the start of Shazam

You know, the closest film Sivana got to comics Sivana was when he was making his big speech while flying and Billy couldn’t hear him, and at the very end when he was scribbling shit on his cell walls (was hoping it’d be an intangibility spell or something)

I hope he’s even crazier, and does some magic-science shit like comics Sivana in the next one

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That fucker deserved it. Whole scene felt very satisfying. I think starting the film with what Sivana went through upped the impact of his later scenes a lot

Lex a fag

The moment he threw that guy out the fucking window the audience went nuts

Reminder that this was the only good film portrayal of Lex Luthor

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Pretty shit movie, but I did like this Luthor.
Even his petty plan at the beginning to bang an old woman and get himself secured as #1 in line for her inheritance, cucking the rest of the family.

How does kryptonite even work?
I know its radioactive but why do Kryptonians get completely bodied by it?

It's fake but if you need a reason, imagine Superman is just really good at conducting radiation at least certain kinds. It's typically just good old Solar Radiation, which is why when he's hit by Red Solar Radiation he quickly if not immediately loses power. Kryptonite is highly radioactive in a way that directly hurts Superman rather than negates or empowers him. It's also why getting hit by a Nuke turns him into a skeleton.

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>lenny luthor gave himself cancer to guilt trip his half sister into making a cure that will give him superpowers.
>and that's not even his main goal in that plot.

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Oh wow, I never thought about it that way.
So if lex was exposed to red kryptonite over a long period of time he goes insane?

Maybe but I think Green Kryptonite slowly killing Lex was just more a case of the human body reacting how it normally does to being assaulted by radiation and forming cancerous mutations.

How is it that Sivana managed to start a family but not Luthor?

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Why would you need to do that when he was clearly under orders from Stepwolf?

Luthor is an Autist that is 2 smart 4 u so relationships that he made tend to break apart.
Sivana although evil at least cared enough to leave a successor. His main motivation in Nu52 was to save his family.

Would you believe Superman was George Soros if a computer told you so?

Not really, he ended up under the tutelage of ras al ghul and darkseid when he was younger, he started his fortune after returning from apokolips

Also he's gay for Superman, but even gayer for himself.
Unlike Sivana he loves himself more than he loves conquering the world. Luthor's conquests are just tributes to himself whereas Sivana's are the ends themselves.

Simple deduction.
I would immediately know that Clark Kent is Superman just by looking at his record and life. Seriously it was in the comic, Lex just said “Well I know better than a stupid machine”.
And to answer your question, If a computer analyzed everything about the guy and it says he’s superman I’m more willing to believe it than say Lex.

If I built an insanely high tech super computer to analyze all of the information available to it specifically to figure out who Superman was, and it told me 100 percent it was fucking Anderson Cooper or whatever, I would at least investigate the idea a little bit.

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Shazam is more convincing than supes considering that he is physically different than Billy.

Luthor's actions serve his insecurities and ego
Sivana's ego and insecurities serve his actions

When Luthor fucks a woman it's to prove he could in some form.
When Sivana fucks a woman it's because he really wants to, in fact he DESERVES TO.

Luthor pulls out with a smug sense of self satisfaction.
Sivana cums deeply into Venus and then he's off to the next thing he wants to do.

I would really like a book where all the science guys in DC just hangs out and start doing scientific dick measuring contests.

Hubris has always been Luthor's undoing, you fucking idiot. It's entirely in character for Lex to be so arrogant that he thinks because the monster was made from his blood he could control it.

That was kind of what the Oolong Island plot in 52 was.

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>I would immediately know that Clark Kent is Superman just by looking at his record and life.

Luthor already knew Clark and thought he was a pathetic wimp from Kansas. He didn't fit the profile for what Lex thought Superman would be like at all because in his narcissistic and delusions of grandeur filled mind you wouldn't hide yourself behind a meek identity. You'd have to be a jock, a businessman, someone important. Not some nobody reporter writing opinion columns who accidentally one ran into a scoop.

Well then they should come back, make it an ongoing and get a compitent writer to make them work.
I already see T.O Morrow and Will Magnus over there.

I truly felt awful for young Thaddeus. Boy gets whisked away by a wizard to be chosen as the champion for magic. Who wouldn’t be stoked for something like that? Except you fail the test because you got tempted by representations of sin and unfortunately caused your dad to lose his leg. Also said father and your older brother already look down on you and will hate you even more.

The prologue was soul-crushing as fuck. They’re must’ve been SOMETHING in young Thaddeus for the Wizard to choose him. From what we saw, he seemed to be a polite well-mannered boy. And you could definitely tell he was stoked in being chosen to receive great power as the new champion for humanity.

Even Anakin Skywalker’s fall from grace as the Chosen One doesn’t come close to the sheer hell that Thaddeus must’ve experienced since the car crash to the day he discovered the equations. His own father and older brother making his life a living hell for making that ruckus that would lead into the car accident. Whose to say Thaddeus’ grandfather (they were going there for Christmas) didn’t blame him too? And always remembering that he had his chance to become imbued with power and being spurned away. It’s the Anti-Harry Potter; no shit Sivana turned petty and vengeful. Who here would be able to overcome this sort of adversity and be the better man?

Plus Luther would NEVER consider Superman to work as a reporter for having the latest scoops on disasters and other trouble to nip in the bud. That sort of altruism and noble sense of duty is against Luthor’s POV. People are just commodities to him; something to exploit for his own purposes.

Ironically Lex probably would atleast before he believed Superman was Clark.

Thad was a Virgin until he grew the balls to be a Chad.

Sivana has the balls to cheat on Venus.
Seriously, guy hit the jackpot and he still found the need to find another woman to impregnate.

I lived how Black Adam was in full rage mode and he just gets bodied by the Science Squad

Technically, the Science Squad still exists, we last saw them together in Metal. Someone really should use them though.

>Implying the BODOG can be contained by only one woman

He wasn't

There was even a time when Supes said he was Clark Kent and still didn't believe him, rofl.

If I had to criticise one thing about the movie its that all the sins were really generic looking, could've done more to differentiate them

Sivana is a gigachad and his smoking hotwife actually loves him.

luthor = smol peener
sivana = magnum dong

I mean that in both a literal and metaphorical way

I require art of Thad The Chad and his hot wife

i tried but this got my attention instead

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Who dick I need to suck to make this happen

>considering the film rating.
I was honestly thrown a bit back by how often they said curse words and flipped the finger in this movie too.

>sivana = magnum dong

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>dr. cale

literally me

I was legit surprised when his dad turned out to stilll be alive after that car crash

He assimlates their hair when they are kids

Check out the guy ripping down pinups

Kryptonians are naturally super durable down to their DNA thanks to evolving on a planet with like 50 times the gravity of Earth. It's also why anything they made there was virtually indestructable by Earth standards: they'd have to be to simply stay standing under that insane gravity. When Krypton blew it's shattered remains became kryptonite. Depending on the continuity, the shards were irradiated by either Krypton's exposed core, the red sunlight of their native star, or both. The radiation essentially sidesteps their natural durability and shreds their DNA, making them sick and weak, exactly like how standing next to something like the Elephant's Foot in Chernobyl will make humans pass out and die in a matter of minutes. Kryptonite radiation is still harmful to humans (radiation is bad regardless of form) but just affects us much more slowly since the wavelengths or what-have-you are much bigger and thus do less damage up front

Multiple guys ripping down pinups

guys (the top right corner has one stuffing pin-ups in the trash)

I hope Venus appears in current canon

>dude managed to pop out not one, not two, but three separate kids from the same woman
>despite looking like a literal moleman and having the personality of a mustache twirling douchebag
Is Sivana /ourguy/?

Women like confidence, drive, and skill. Sivana fights a god on a daily basis and could shape the world if he wanted.

>but three separate kids from the same woman
Four.

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Doesn't he have 4?

Amen. Sivana is the true Tragic Villain.

Sexy science pinups of Venus when?

>I Knew a girl once, Morrow
And?
>I just knew one once

I'll admit, it made me guffaw.

This movie only served to reinforce my belief that Strong should have been Luthor. Damn it, DC!

To me that scene started great but kinda lost its moment due to lack of any blood whatsoever. I understand it due to the rating though.
What actually shocked me was his bitch assistant dying after touching the door. That was some Drag Me To Hell shit.

That bit at the end.

>"Maybe now your mother will take me back."

If they end up adding the Sivana kids, will they have the balls to make the ugly pair look like Mark Strong?

I'd scream WRONG but it'd just be for the may-mays and not that you're actually incorrect.

I don't even want to know what that "Lex" abomination was in BvS.

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Just who exactly did he expect Superman to be, then?

Probably some burly superchad.

Not soon enough, that's for sure!

>Outlook: not so good

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Someone like him

>. Furthermore, no amount of retcon is going to fucking fix Jesse Lex
There's nothing to fix, it was a great lex. Only faggots that want smallville lex think otherwise, he was a bitter petty evil manlet. One of the most hateble villians in years, and that's a good thing. Lex doesn't need to be cool, just a smart guy that really hates superman

t. Jessie Eisen(((berg)))

Okay I got an idea for any lurking drawfags
>Venus taking a selfie wearing one of Thad’s lab coats, and nothing else, licking a test tube “Hurry back soon Sivana looks at the message “Meh...”

>it was a great lex
Shut the fuck up, Snyder.

Lex being a jewish manlet fits the character a lot.

Give a counter argument that is not "not muh". You morons just want cool bad guys that could be fucking anti-heroes instead of actual evil characters.

He felt more like a hyena than a lion

No I just hate Jesse because his performance was ass, he wasn’t threatening nor imposing, and his motivations were dumb

>le living in the dream world kiddo xD
Shut the fuck up, Snyder.

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that batman kill people.

>not bald
Into the trash it goes.

>and his motivations were dumb
His motivation is the same he has in every single comic: he hates superman becuase he makes him feel small.
I agree, but it's not the first and won't be the last Lex that isn't a "lion", even morrison's n52 Lex had a jewish petty manlet lex. I did disliked the sperging, but
Snyder has nothing to do with you wanting "sexy lex". Just that you cunts want Johns or Loeb's Lex and nothing more. Sperg jew Lex makes as much sense as Fat rich guy lex or politician lex.
This triggered me a lot, how fucking hard was to make the kryptonian ship to make him bald or any of his experiments, that was pure lazyness.

No, that wasn’t his motivation in the movie.

Fuck you for trying to derail the thread with this tired out bullshit, you’re not getting another reply from me

youtube.com/watch?v=MZCNDwKgi7o

>No, that wasn’t his motivation in the movie.
That was, just because you take the bullshit he says about his father seriously doesn't mean that was actually his motivation, BAD GUYS LIE, and Lex has always been pure bullshit, everytime he is saying it's about "humanity not reaching potential" and nonesense like that it's a lie, either to himself to justify his own shittyness, he is just a manlet that wants praise and to be the top dog. The movie goes out of its way with "subtle" snyder shit to tell you he is lying, he says he hated god for not stopping his dad from hitting him, and then you have superman stopping Doomsday's punch saving him, and guess what? he still hates superman. He just hates fucking superman as every other good Lex.
That's not n52 Lex. But is a good example of Morrison writing 2 different versions of the same character, i do like the ending for that Lex more than the comic one.

Fuck BvS faggotry, post Sivana

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Thing is, OP fucked up bycomparing a not very popular character with a extremely popular character that has tons of fans with different opinions. You can't do a fucking thread by saying "Lobster Johnson > Batman" without expecting people to start talking about batman, OP as always was a fag.

>just a smart guy
He wasn't smart at all. His Doomsday plan didn't make sense. It was just suicide.

My suggested alteration:
>Venus taking a selfie wearing one of Thad’s lab coats, and nothing else, licking a test tube “Hurry back soon Batson will be dead in an hour!

Too long. Might as well just have it say “DAMMIT WOMAN! I’m working!”

>Sivanaposting is now a thing

God, I'm glad the movie turned out well. Even though movie Sivana isn't like his comic counterpart at all, the actor did a pretty good job so i don't mind it.

All the sequel needs are his children now.

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I wouldn’t say “at all”. His entire plan was to use science to steal magical power to rule the world, which is very Sivana

He became a big guy.

>Throws the brother out the window
>Holy shit shit is fucking rad
>Deadly sins appear
>Dude gets his head bitten off
>MFW

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Yes. Johnsvanna, not as much.

These are glorious times we live in.

Was Lust the one with the tongue?

Ithought the movie improved curse in every single way

There's just something about villain get-togethers that just warms my heart. Nothing [overly] nefarious going on but just visiting friends and the like.

This is a great thread and I'd really like a Captain Marvel recommendation list if anons don't mind.
I read Shazam and the Monster Society of Evil by Jeff Smith, and that was a load of fun.

No idea if this is any good but I wanted to try my hand at drawing Sivana so

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Lex Luthor is a total virgin compared with Doctor Chaddeus Chadvana

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>YFW They teleported to the strip club

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Who else?

I’d like to imagine Darla in Shazam form went back, made friends with the strippers as they left from their shift (not seeing what they do of course), and they all had makeovers/made stuff with glitter

Nice.

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>not very popular character

which is really sad because Sivana is the embodiment of what mad scientist character is
and he is the one of very first mad scientist supervillain in the history of comics

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>Not a popular character
I’m not going to pretend he’s A-List, but Yea Forums would talk about how underrated Sivana was even before the movie dropped

Eat your heart out Morrison.

Who should play Georgia in the potential sequel?

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Chloe Grace Morten but you nerd her up?

Ana de Amas.

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Why doesn't Dr. Sivana just rape Shazam?

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Sivana really really hates cops.

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Now that the BillyCarol threads are no more, the vermins hunt down any thread related to Shazam in hopes of finding fellow degenerates.

Not a bad idea if you think about it...

>crime school

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Sivana wears a pharmacist’s coat, not a doctor’s. Otherwise pretty good.

because sivanna is too busy getting banged by the sins.

Purest form of love!

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that was actually a pretty good call back
I dunno why but I kinda loved coward Santa, especially when that paid off in the news broadcast

Give me some Billy/Mary. Siblings are meant to be together.

Only gay siblings for you.

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Isn't there a containment board or something for you people? Someplace where you can be heathens without bothering us low level autists?

I love how hard these old Captain Marvel comics go. They’re funny, but there’s also legintimate peril. This child, Billy Batson, gets put in situations where he’s about to get burned alive, or punched in the face with spiked brass knuckles, or have his throat slit, and seems to often have to get out of them without being transformed into his superhero form.

Sivana has tried to kill Billy in his sleep multiple times.

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We all know best ship is Billy and his Foster Mom

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Two kids takes very clearly from the mother while the other two takes clearly from the father

Get out of here Gordon! Shouldn't you be patrolling the streets of Gotham instead of letting Batman do all the work?

That still pisses me off, who the fuck cares about Steppenwolf? Especially as the villain for something like Justice League?
Granny Goodness or Godfrey would've been better

Also using fucking Doomsday this early was stupid too.

First his obsession with raping Joker, now he's shipping little adopted brothers and demanding one of them be raped.

Are there no depths he won't sink?

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Or better yet, don't waste New God shit on the first Justice League movie. Starro or Vandal Savage would have made for more interesting antagonists

I'm just happy there's Shazam art at all.

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I love this image

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>Also using fucking Doomsday this early was stupid too.
Fuck off, Snyder best thing was to get rid of the hard-on WB has had for death of superman for decades, Death of superman is a shitty story and doomsday is shit, BASED snyder for killing any DOS live adaptation, fuck doomsday. That and the Batman origin story being told in the credits were the best 2 things out of BvS

Should Venus remain a normal rich woman who just so happens to be married to a super villain, or should she have a power/gimmick? I'm leaning more towards the former, and I just want her to appear in current canon.

>Captain Cold
>Lex Luthor
>Sivana
What's up with DC and bald people? At this point, it really does seem like a personal vendetta.

Captain Cold isn't bald

Geoff Johns was balding, and tried to turn every bland guy into a sexy character, not even joking, he got hair implants in 2014. There was a lot of bald characters at some point, some user made a chart about what characters he was involved with in some form.

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Make her an alien queen again

>Sivana didn't immediately flee when Billy turned into Captain Marvel, he actually tried to go for Freddy instead

Based

His intellect knows no bounds.

One of my friends whispered in my ear, "Dr. Sivana. I don't feel so good." when it happened. I felt like an asshole for being the only guy in the theater who laughed during that scene.

Speaking of that coat, I just realized he wears something like it in the movie under his jacket, check the op. cool little detail there

>Shazam not having a manly square jaw
Fuck your fujoshi yaoi shit. What's with all the gay stuff never having a proper seme/uke disposition?

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Fifty bucks says he freezes his hair off with his gun.

>I WANT GLITTER!

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Look we all know you were thinking of Mister Freeze, don't try and play dumb

Why didn’t he just raise Superman to be his evil conquering son, and rule earth with a hot wife to boot? Fuck he even knew the exact date. I know it’s a comic meant for dumb kids but come on, this plot line can be done better.

Actually...

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Freeze? That hunk of metal he's got is just a glorified water pistol attached to a fridge.

We're talking absolute zero here, baby!

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He looks so badass with that tommy gun.

Harsh

Himself. He is so truly egotistical that its not even within the realm of possibilities to him that someone who is as close to being a god as superman would ever choose to be a normal human being. He simply cannot comprehend the idea of someone being genuinely good and humble.

Don't let the lack of lantern jaw fool you, Billy is firmly the seme of the ship according to fujos.

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What is the Sivana force comprised of?

Whereas I felt bad about the lady's gruesome death, for some reason my 15 year old brother clapped.
I asked him why: he said "she was annoying constantly questioning things"

Jeez.
Why are kids this cruel? And why do superhero movies have these weird kills anyways?
Like Water senator jelly In X-men 2000

s-sauce?

youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9P-QVp_yc

Pure badassery and science.

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It's easy to draw and with the right face shape and jawline can look very intimidating. I remember seeing this one guy at my uncle's wedding who looked like a Colombian Lex Luthor

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Sivanaforce

>It's another "That actor you confuse with Stanley Tucci" episode

Is the chad son to imply he got cucked? He looks nothing like Sivana while the other two do

Two of Sivana's kids take after his wife, and the other two take after him.

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Depends on the setting, Thad cheated on Venus and Georgia and Jr are the result.

So many childless villains out there, yet our Chaddeus has four loving children.

I want a reality show called “The Sivanas” where in each episode all of them try different things to impress their Dad + recurring Black Adam Family comes to visit as neighbors with Georgia falling in love with Osiris.

I just imagined some sort of Home Improvement/Tooltime gig with Sivana testing out his latest gadgets.

I think Freddy would have trouble anyway, since he's kinda disabled.

Watch Hummingbird Project. Lex went Hypercrisis. There's shit I can't say unless you ask me about it. Don't mess.

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Meeting the mall Santa was adorable and uncomfortably arousing

>Meagan Good as Darla will never tell you she’s been a good girl

Why DID they get zapped like that?

settle something for me: this is absolutely sivanaesque right?

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was not shazam meant to look like peak form billy?

IIRC the reason he didn't believe it is that he refused to accept that a superior being like Superman could ever be humble enough to pretend to be just some regular guy.

He probably would've believed it if Superman's secret identity was someone super famous and/or important.

Wow Sivana is so chad that he cucked Venus

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