Dungeons & Dragons

>I had no idea either.
>it's kinda surreal when you google it and find the origin of a meme
FUCK YOU ALL, I AM STILL YOUNG !

Fun fact, for a long time, I knew there was no last episode, but I still believed there were a "first episode" I had never said, one that put in place the setting and where we actually see them going to the fair and getting transported mid-way. I just never had the chance to see it.

turns out such episode doesn't actually exist, all of this is only in the opening and in no episode ever. 1rst episode start out directly with them being already in the D&D world.

I now realise that the "there is a "secret" episode that only was broadcast once (or never), but I am sure it exist somewhere" is a mindset that can no longer exist. It's kind of weird, when I think about it.

>Fred perry is making a porn comic out of this

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There was no chorus of show creators patting themselves on the back for how progressive they made the show.

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The world need more fantasy adventure cartoons.

Yeah. Sad actually. I have vague memories of episodes I'm sure I watched but which in retrospect were half-made up fantasies, dreams or just mashups. However my mind was utterly blown when several years ago following a HD failure I had to torrent stuff again, and among it all PPG. I have watched the entire series multiple times. Yet that time and afterwards there were at least four episodes I've never seen in my entire life, even as a kid while the show was airing. To make matters more disturbing I used the exact same torrent.

Creepy.

Tiamat was best girl.

These kids were badass they defeated Tiamat in episode one

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Yes, there were.

>first day of campaign
>level one
>get Tialmat thrown in their face
The slow realisation that the DM might have been That Guy.

Its almost always forced retard. Very very few ethnic characters are organic, theyre almost always there to fill the quota, diversity hires, mouth peices to preach about how woke the creators are and nothing more. Granted im talking about new shit, old stuff had organic characters for sure

>Its almost always forced retard.
There is no such thing. There is no default race if the creators wan t character of different race, there is no reason to not do it, nor do they need justification.
> Very very few ethnic characters are organic,
Being well written or not has nothing to do with their race. Would they be white, an inorganic character would still be inorganic you need to get over that "forced diversity" meme. It was never pertinent.

>Unless you count the ginger as non-white

Gingers don't even count as people.

>Granted im talking about new shit, old stuff had organic characters for sure
there is literally zero difference. You think diverse cast started in 2010 ? The 80's was literally the birth decade of diverse cast.

There is a short bit in that video (you can put english subtitles) about it, at 1:00
youtube.com/watch?v=qgSX5X52Cs4

Is this the cartoon in which they beat the fuck out of Lolth? Somehow?
And Lolth was presented as this small, inept spider?

>OLD IS GOOD
>NEW IS BAD

>yfw you only give half the party actual weapons

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I’m surprised there hasn’t been another cartoon made, DnD is pretty mainstream these days. If a dnd show were made today, should they do the normal kids/teens sent to fictional world, or just following some adventurers like Fell’s Five?

Presto is best boy

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>I’m surprised there hasn’t been another cartoon made, DnD is pretty mainstream these days.
The cartoon drifted rather quite far from the source material, though. I mean, Presto never worked as an actual Magician.

If anything, the DM gave him a different class whil confusing presto about being a wizzard, sewed a cursed bag of holding to his hat and Presto never figured out why he never levelled in his believed class.l

My point is, if there was a D&D cartoon to be made nowadays, it would be more accurate to the source material and you couldn't really run characters like the one of the 80's cartoon.

I would go a for a fantasy superheroes route. I would stay away from trying to "be like LotR.
D&D is popular nowadays - for better or for worse, superheroes are popular, those to can be easily combined into something akin to Arrow or The Flash but in whatever D&D universe they wish to place it.

really wish this got an Avatar style reboot

>TFW everyone else is a wizard or knight but you are an "acrobat".

>CANT REFUTE
>SPOUT MEME

You were already refuted by someone else, that user you quoted was just making fun of you.

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Dungeon Master knew what a thot she was.

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I ship her an Eric.

Oh momma

Or maybe you watch to much culture war videos on YouTube.

To be honest, it would also be far more boring if one used standard D&D characters, instead of little kids being isekai'd into a D&D fantasy world and trying to get by together.

eric should be gay

or maybe presto

Let's make them all bi and be done with it.

you just know sheila is a slut

She is the kind of girl who try to act prude because she was taught to act decent, but she can't help but think about it all of the time.

I was waiting for it. I want Presto’s portal to the nymph dimension

I was surprised to learn that the song is exclusive to the French version. growing up, I thought everyone had that theme:
youtube.com/watch?v=PUpm_56K71M

it's nothing really like the game it's based on but as a kid i liked the series. I was amazed at the time that it got on Tv because of the satanic panic going on at the time.

I thought that ended by the 70th.

Because at the time they were just telling a decent story not trying to shoehorn in how the people of the fantasy setting were treating Diana badly because she was an African American and the history of racism of the US still colors everything even if it's in a totally different world.

Diana befriends a nazi pilot.
Who defects to the Allies thanks to her

>not trying to shoehorn in how the people of the fantasy setting were treating Diana badly because she was an African American and the history of racism of the US still colors everything
Gnuinely disapointed. I mean, she was black, but I think it would have been interresting to have one episode where she is casted out byt the inhabitant because she is black, in contrast with how her friend treat her as they come from the real world.

It would be fitting with the kind of episodes the 80's used to have have in their show. But I guess D&S is a world of escapism, so making it it a safeplace where none of the inhabitant are racist make sense. At least for a TV show.

Seriously, anyone who has run a D&D has inevitably got a campaign where the BBEG is a racist or a specieist.

He was already considering leaving one he landed in D&D, though.

>to shoehorn in how the people of the fantasy setting were treating Diana badly because she was an African American and the history of racism of the US still colors everything
Even nowadays, most shows don't do that. this sort of talk tend to mostly happens on twitter when someone complain to the creator about "forced diversity". Which, really, isn't a thing. No one was forced to do that.

In the fantasy DND setting there’s no context for any of the inhabitants there to treat her any different from anyone else.

>In the fantasy DND setting there’s no context
The GM can create any context he want.

Wait, Dwarves don't hate Elves in D&D ?

Isn't there a whole deal going on between Elves and Drows

I know it's not D&G itself, but LoTR clearly was an inspiratyion for it and there is conflict in it between men from the middle earth and people from the South Sauron indoctrinated in his army. And I am pretty sure they are kind of north-arabicish.

She’s neither a dwarf or an elf. To pretty much everyone in a fantasy DND setting, she’s just a human being and would be treated as such.

Sure, they can but seeing as there’s actual orcs and trolls walking about, it would make zero sense for anyone to be racist against a human because they have dark skin when you have literal half-spider folk and other craziness going on in the world.

>She’s neither a dwarf or an elf. To pretty much everyone in a fantasy DND setting, she’s just a human being and would be treated as such.
The point is that racial tension exist. But even among people of the same species, there will be tension between different clan.

Hell, all you need is two kingdom at war. you don't need a different color of skin to be racist. also, it's pretty common to have campaign that involve slavery or going to the slave market.

You really don't need to try hard to create racial tension.

>but seeing as there’s actual orcs and trolls walking about, it would make zero sense for anyone to be racist against a human
I guess Tolkien's world make zero sense, then.

>it would make zero sense for anyone to be racist against a human
All you need is two family at odds.

That’s because the drows and elves have history with each other and the drows are I to some dark-arts stuff.

That’s because those are clear factions that are in conflict with each other. I’m not saying that conflict between groups don’t exist in fantasy settings. I’m saying that nobody has a basis to treat this character any different from the other adventurers. She’s not a part of any group that they’ve had history with and they live in a world full of sentient creatures that look more different than a black person and a white person.

>I’m not saying that conflict between groups don’t exist in fantasy settings.
Hence why racial tension make sense. fuck, all you need is a slave market and you have racial tension ready to go.

saying Racism don't make sense in D&D is being quite oblivious.

It was beginning to really ramp up in the 80's the Egbert incident happened in 79, Patricia Pulling's son killed himself in 82, and Mazes and Monsters came out in 81. So it was well underway in 83 when the series cam out.

>The point is that racial tension exist
I never said that it didn’t. I’m talking about this acrobat character in Dungeons and Dragons.

It makes zero sense in terms to how this character, that’s from earth would be treated in a fantasy setting if she went to middle earth and people were just being racist to her for no reason.

>All you need is two family at odds.

In this character’s case, there’s zero family. She’s not from the DND world and you don’t see any cases where she would be negatively associated with any other group.

Her canon nudes from the show will drive you wild. Seriously, don't look for them.

Drow aren't just dark skinned, they're literally ebony. She would look more like a high elf.

Because they bothered to wrote them as actual charters and not just used as muh lazy virtue signaling.

>It's never forced,
Who are you trying to fool libtard?

Based and redpilled

>There is no such thing
>Being well written or not has nothing to do with their race
It is because shitty writers chose purposely to add characters with different races to gaing virtue signaling points. You act as if politics don't exist.

>Hence why racial tension make sense. fuck, all you need is a slave market and you have racial tension ready to go.

Why would any of that racial tension have anything to do with her, exactly? Sure, she’d be against a slave market but I’m sure every other member of her group would have a problem with seeing that too. There’s only be racial tension if someone in the group thought the idea of a slave market was a good thing because of some social Darwinist talking point.

>saying Racism don't make sense in D&D is being quite oblivious.

It doesn’t make sense for anyone to be racist toward her. She literally fell out of the sky or whatever one day with three other people that have no cultural or historical connection to the world and there’s zero indication from what’s shown in the story that people care about skin color by itself.

>Because they bothered to wrote them as actual charters and not just used as muh lazy virtue signaling

1980’s “diversity” was usually just tokenism. The characters of the era were generally 2-dimensional and had no depth. Realistic characters would still care about and represent their own culture and ethnicity even if they get along with others that don’t share their ethnicity or culture.

>It is because shitty writers chose purposely to add characters with different races to gaing virtue signaling points.

In the 1980’s they literally added characters to serve as tokens. The only difference is that their cultural representation was either hyper stereotypical or watered down to the point that literally anyone could be that character and nothing would change.

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This was a good show. I was also surprised at the occasional depths characters would reveal. Dungeon Master would be Lawful Neutral, works for what's best for the world, but still tries to wring things to be beneficial to himself sparing his son, Vengar even if it's detrimental to everyone else. As long as he keeps going for that golden ending....

user, DM threw goddamn tiamat at the kids their first game session. He's not aiming for a golden ending, he's trying to see how long before rocks fall and everyone dies. He's a sadist which explains his kids

Shit, there was a DnD cartoon?
Tiamat looks just like she does in Neverwinter, neat

>Tiamat looks just like she does in Neverwinter, neat

Because it its an artwork from Neverwinter.

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This

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This Tiamat looks silly

Wait till you see Lolth. How the mighty have fallen.

oh boy, this gonna be good

An user of taste and culture, I see.

Yeah, but she's not a cavenigger

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>racist
In one of my games the players had allies who were racist. The major church of the continent the game takes place on despised dragons and dragonborn, but one of the PCs who is a Dragonborn sorcerer has become an ordained saint by them so things are getting better

everyone have deals with drows, they are a race of literal backstabing assholes that take pride and joy in being assholes.
except maybe the like 5% of them living in the surface that are not spies , drizzt and selune (might have the wrong deity) followers

Lynch all /pol/tards

>selune
I think you might mean Eilistraee.
Pic related

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yeah might be that one, Selune is the godess of beauty right ?

No, I think she covers the moon and protection.

Sune's the one you're thinking of.

I hated how the team lacked offensive capabilities, especially in such a dangerous environment. Plus the wizard was incompetent, the knight was a giant douche, and the team was friends with a thief.

This is my current favorite cartoon about D&d.

youtube.com/watch?v=_JhWgMw0gBI&t=0s

damn, been long since i dm

I remember the first game I played. One of the players was dragon born while I was an imperial soldier or something. She made a big deal about how my faction killed gorillions of Dragonborn. I threw her a copper piece and asked for my change back.

Is this official art?

see Because neither of you were alive in the 80s

I've never been able to find a group to play DnD. I've resigned myself to only playing vidya

I got a dvd of it from the library and going to sit down to watch it tonight. What am I in for?

You anywhere near Austin Texas? I'm looking to start a new group. Any RPG, not just D&D.

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...

It's from the book that came with one of the DVD releases, where they're all statted as D&D characters.

more?

I have you tried looking online?

Have you*

Which Edition? This is crucial information.

They didn't 'beat the fuck out of' her, they barely managed to survive; she was neither small, or inept.
youtube.com/watch?v=6AGU6vtJLR8

Actually, that was around the time of the original Unearthed Arcana -- there wa a "split-class" called Thief/Acrobat. In the DVD game booklet, she's a Monk.

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When I first saw this show, I thought Uni was another one of the kids transformed into a DnD character and wondered what poor bastard was turned into a gibbering donkey instead of a bad-ass warrior.

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Naw. Eric's Asexual. The girls are Bi. Presto's Omni. Hank & Bobby are straight, and Uni's a lesbian.

I swear there was talk of a new Dungeons and Dragons cartoon, or maybe that was a rumor I imagined.
As for the series itself it was pretty good. Good ol 80s/90s action show with less of a blunt lesson-of-the-day adventure stories.
Shame it was so short lived. I don't think it even got an ending.

>three other people
Look, user, Sheila may be a damn ginger, but she's still human.

High Elves are Caucasian, Wood Elves are brown-ish, and Grey Elves are pale. Drow are black as ink, black as a raven's wing, black as the Abyss. Light cannot escape them.

Her follower throw great parties, tho once blood is drawn, party's over.

But Kareena's nice!

They were made for 3.5, but I'm pretty sure conversions forward or back wouldn't be _too_ difficult.

I had a theory that she might've been a time-traveling Sheila (or her daughter) transformed, but that was dumb.

>vest of escape
Err, that's not a vest she's wearing...

yeah.

that said.
crit role kickstarter for animating their series.
about to hit 10million.

It's less "80s/90s" and more "80s", if that makes any sense. Ninja turtles and mighty mouse both set the trends going into the 90s in 87, with cartoons being a lot more self aware and "slick", so the last three years of the decade were very different from the previous seven

Is crit role Yea Forums now?

news.toyark.com/2018/10/25/dungeons-and-dragons-cartoon-series-statues-by-iron-studios-321707

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that's cool and all, but that would take forever to get everyone

yes

Why is she so hot in human form

I started playing DnD in 5e and watched this cartoon when I was more active in the community just to get a bit more immersed in media related to the game. I always assumed that she was a monk just by glancing at her kit, but had no idea what the hell they were talking about when she was classed as an acrobat.

Eric/Presto is best ship, followed by Eric/Diana or Presto/Diana tied for second. Following that is Sheila/Eric. Sheila/Presto can beat it out for third place, but only if you go low-key dom with Sheila. Any Hank ship is doomed to mediocrity since his group role and characterization is basically "leader guy" with Hank/Presto being the best you're going to get out of it. Sheila/Diana would likewise be mediocre. This is of course assuming you're using onscreen characterizations and group dynamics; once you start messing around with those you open up a lot more options.

But Eric/Presto will still be best.

That smug ass Dungeon Master.

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Dungeon Master and Uni are straight up "That's my fetish."

A mix of cheesy 80s status quo and darker themes with a semi-overarching storyline. A few animation errors and voice mixups here and there. Disappointment when you find out that the series wasn't finished and they were about to finish it. I've never played DnD and i love this show, so you don't need any knowledge of the game to enjoy it.

I think that it can't be overstated that the cartoon isn't exactly great, just interesting - particularly if you know about the behind the scenes stuff.

Each of those artists are taken out of each individual dragon from the 1st edition monster manual. Dave Sutherlund illustrations.

Neverwinter wasn't even conceived at the time. Forgotten Realms didn't exist.

What behind the scene stuff?

>Its almost always forced retard. Very very few ethnic characters are organic, theyre almost always there to fill the quota, diversity hires, mouth peices to preach about how woke the creators are and nothing more. Granted im talking about new shit, old stuff had organic characters for sure

So your entire argument is "Nuh-uh".

Basically the showrunners and writers spent the entire series run fighting Standards & Practices and various watchdog groups.

Drows worship an insane goddess who literally forces you to kill your friends as a test of faith

newsfromme.com/pov/col145-2/

second time this week i post this. On the other thread i pasted a few parts here, but really the whole thing is worth a look.

Honestly I'd love to see a script by the writers that wasn't affected by the social/corporate bullshit in the 80s. The only problem is that we probably wouldn't get the Eric we got.

They don't. They shittalk each other but it's more like sibling rivalry. Elves hate the drow and orcs though.

#notalldrow
There are actually good aligned drow in some of the settings that worship a drow goddess that's sane, nice and heroic. Other elves are a bit confused about it.

Diana is one of the most attractive animated characters of all time.

Mark Evanier did scripts for it, I think he has some info on his site
newsfromme.com/?s=dungeons

Pasqual Ferry did a Spanish comic adaptation of the TV show

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Maybe because animation market is overcrowded with anime fantasy isekai and no Western studio can produce something comparable in quality even in the slightest?

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You know we'll get another politically correct She-Ra all over again.
I lost hope in quality western animation. I miss DCAU.

>Sure, she’d be against a slave market but I’m sure every other member of her group would have a problem with seeing that too
M%oving the goal post. The point I was arguing is that she would met racist people in the D&D universe, much more virulent than what she might have been used to. I never said that only her would react to a slave market.

>Shit, there was a DnD cartoon?
I said, STOP MAKING ME FEEL OLD !

The hair line has me confused. is that the moon, behind her, or is she just donning ass giant fro ?

considering how much the critical role kick starter made im really surprised Wotc has not tried to make an official DnD series, its bigger than its ever been and has gotten pretty mainstream.

The isekai format would probably be the best way to go with a new show but on a wider scale. Like it can start with a group of D&D players who find themselves in the D&D world and try and find their way similar to the old cartoon. But the DM here is much more neutral, only pointing the direction of where the group needs to go. Theres no one major big bad and the way out for the group is to complete their personal goal in the game. This way they can meet other players who were also isekai'd. Some main characters could successfully leave the world after completing their objectives, either selfishly or by the insistence of his/her friends. Some might actually fail and die in the world and it would be an arc to see if they can be raised. That kinda thing.

They're asking for a lot of money for okay looking 1/10 figures.

That's the moon.
Eilistraee is the drow goddess of beauty, moon, swordwork, song, dance and freedom and overall a nice and wholesome girl. Her clergy is a bit raunchy, but they are pretty nice unlike the majority of the drow.

Kek. Best dm.
>t. former cm
I watched these when they were being released. Oh glory days, anons! We didn't know how good we had it.

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They could make Fell's Five!

that sounds awful

ill never stop being mad about that comic being canceled.

Editorial mandate. They weren't allowed to hurt others, only "contain" them.

Me too. It was just getting juicy!

It's all about execution.
It's one thing to post on here a general overview. Another thing entirely to make it work when it comes to episode to episode planning, character interactions and personality and shit.
Hell you can make a show where it literally is nothing but the characters running a D and D campaign in a game shop and if the execution is done well it could be good.

I dunno if I want to see it in the first place. WotC nowadays panders almost exclusively to the pink-haired tumblr crowd and their 5e books are a testament to that. And 5e D&D lore in an incoherent mess. I can already guess the type of treatment the new animated series will get.
Also, WotC is really lazy as of late. They even cancelled 95% of D&D novels and comics because they couldn't be bothered with it. And why should they, when Critical Role does all the promotion for them?

>The isekai
The old cartoon was literally an isekai.

why can't there be more cute nerds like presto in cartoons

It's not so much that they don't think to make one, it's that the D&D licensing rights are a complete goddamn mess.

Missed opportunity.

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It still hasn't been cleared out ?

I've been playing D&D since 3rd and I don't think I've ever seen anyone who really cared about the lore as a whole, much less used it other than cribbing whatever snippets they liked. Also no one really buys the comics; Fell's Five topped out something like 15k units, while their last mini, Frost Giant's Fury, had peak sales of 5.3k and wasn't even placing top 300 by the time it ended. Jem and the Holograms was pushing more units.

It's less complicated than before, but from what I can gather there are still multiple entities with varying degrees of ownership to the licensing rights split across different formats.

Pic unrelated, of course.

Is she hotter than the redhead?

Let me guess, you watched it on TV and they didn't play the opening, as well, just the show title?

Sort of this. Half the time they'd stop by a settlement CRAMMED with Lizard Men, Orcs, Ogres etc. Also they walked around in adventurer gear.

Working around the meddling was probably a huge part of the charm for cartoons back then.

They really should bring back Dragon Magazine at least. Then again I probably wouldn't follow it much if it were just D&D 5th edition.

Why does Wizards despise R.A. Salvatore so much? His novels comprise 95% of their book sales yet they've never once tried to shop the series for a cartoon/show/movie deal. I would settle for a Brimstone Angels series of they won't give me Drizzt.

Is she hotter than the redhead?

I think you have shit taste

Depend if you have fetish for freckles or not.

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>and they didn't play the opening
They did, actually : It's just that I assumed the opening was a recap of what I thought was the 1rst episode.

see

Ohhh, I see. In my country they used to cut off openings, so a lot of people get surprised to see the "beginning" of the show.

No Venger, Nightmare, and Shadow Demon? No Tiamat?

Dose prices are bugfuck, tho.

Wasn't she the only nonwhite in the cast? If you consider that diverse, I'm not surprised things come off as forced to you.

I love the "runner" story, and its follow-up.

Just as there are evil surface elves.

It sounds almost like the "Guardians of the Flame" series of fantasy novels by Joel Rosenberg.

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>I was arguing is that she would met racist people in the D&D universe, much more virulent than what she might have been used to

But that's wrong.

Which is very good, might I hasten to add, but waaaaay grimmer and grimier.

When I was younger, twas Diana for me. then my fancy switched to Sheila. I would now rather have them both, with which to start my D&D harem.

Source on this, please?

>But that's wrong.
It isn't.

A society that allow slavery will tend to be more virulently racist than one that doesn't.

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What's your basis for that?

Slavery existing, nearby Kingdoms ready to go at war because they are on the wrong side of the nobility tree, more isolated town and communities.

also, pretending that racist doesn't exist because there are other humanoid/sentient species is pretty stupid, there is no base to back that statement.

Hmm, Poe's Law seems to be in effect here. Bravo!

So you offer no actual rationale like chattel slavery needing a clearly defined Other to avoid the effects of social morality and instead of just start randomly listing off words. Whether or not a society is racist has a host of factors, postbellum American South was arguably more racist than antebellum American South due to the lack of social distinction brought about destruction of Creole and Freeman categorization following emancipation.

Those games were so neat. I used to think King of Dragons was official D&D, too.

>So you offer no actual rationale like chattel slavery needing a clearly defined Other to avoid the effects of social morality and instead of just start randomly listing off words.
Flashnews: arguments are made of words. And they are not random. You can't just discard what I say by saying it doesn't count.

Society who are more likely to enter in conflict are more likely to become racist.

And you still haven't provided anything saying how the setting of DnD doesn't allow for racism. As said before, any setting can be established by the DM, and there is nothing in DnD that would make it stupid.

i don't know why it's so important to you to say "no DnD can't have racist people", though.

I'm saying your arguments are shit, not about whether or not D&D has racists.

>it doesn't count because I say so.
Back at it again, I see.
>not about whether or not D&D has racists.
That Diana could encounter much more racist people than what she was used to in the real world was the whole point of that convo.

>Hey elf dude, have you seen our friend Diana?
>Which one's that? I'm sorry but... you humans all look the same...

Sauce? I hope Diana gets a lot of attention

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>uni
was it really necessary ?

there is more DnD speak in that than in the whole actual show.

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/pol/ should take example on Fred Perry. He is black but he is not complexed by some white twink fucking over a woman of his own race.

Loved those games

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NAYRT, but how close to Austin? I'm in the Killeen/Fort Hood area.

I live in south austin, just across the river from downtown.

>porn of the kids
extra off limits

No, see, that's actually okay.

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FRED NO

FRED YES!

Or you could be curs-ed like I, and like both at the same time!

Shit, too far. Good luck finding a group user.

Fuck I heard it in my head.

>Slavery existing
racialized slavery is an Enlightenment concept. back in the day slavery was just a sign of misfortune, not racial inferiority. And in a world with actual non-humans, most human beings are likely to look past skin colour as a dividing factor when there's green thugs with tusks over wonder hill that want to kill you and everyone you love because the omens say its time to raid.

I'm pretty certain, that mentally, at least, I'm still 11 or 12.

>Diana could encounter much more racist people than what she was used to in the real world was the whole point of that convo.

>could
Hmmm...

>The point I was arguing is that she would met racist people in the D&D universe

>would
Hmmmmmm-!

Well, No I have to throw away my post on this subject, cos it's way less articulate than yours.

*Now

jaysus

Awww, yisss!

My sense of decency says "NO, FRED, NO!"...BUT...my dick says...well, you can prolly guess.